Religious Liberty Group Receives Hundreds of Calls Daily From Employees Over Vaccine Exemptions
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- Welcome back to "Newswatch."
People who don't want to get
the COVID vaccine mandatedby President Biden
are looking to religiousliberty groups for help.
I spoke with Roger Gannam,
assistant vice president oflegal affairs at Liberty Counsel
about what folks needto know when it comes
to their freedom of religionand vaccine exemptions.
I understand your organization
is receiving sometimeshundreds of calls a day
with questions about this issue.
What are you hearing andwhat are people asking?
- That's right.
Sometimes as many as 500 calls a day,
mainly from employees who arebeing told by their employers
that they must get oneof the COVID vaccines
or lose their job.
And as you can imagine,
that puts a lot of peopleunder a lot of stress
and a lot of anxiety about the future.
And so, we're trying tohelp as many as we can
by filing either a strategic lawsuit
or sending out a demandletter to a large employer
when they're giving theiremployees an especially hard time
about receiving a religious exemption
from one of these shot mandates,
which, for most employees,the law requires
that a religious exemption be granted.
- What is your top advice to all those
who don't want the vaccine
and desire to claim a religious exemption?
- Well, if it's from anemployer, it's important
that the employee followtheir employer's process
for requesting an exemption,and then to stick with it.
Many employers are throwing up obstacles
or asking invasive questions,
trying to discourage someemployees or a number of employees
from even asking fora religious exemption.
But our advice is to stick with it
and supply the employerwhat the employer asks for
because if the exemption is denied,
the employee needs to be able to show
that the employee did whatthe employer asked of them
and still didn't receive the exemption.
And then after that, if theexemption is denied wrongfully,
the employee should immediatelyseek to file a claim
with the Equal EmploymentOpportunity Commission.
That can be done online,usually through the EEOC website
or through the employee's state agency
that handles EEOC claims.
But it's important tostay with the process
because, otherwise, theemployee may not have a remedy
under federal or state law ifthe exemption is not granted.
- Roger, are there other legal ways
that people can avoid thevaccine and keep their jobs?
- Well, if the employer is the government,
then, in addition towhat we call Title VII
or employment discrimination claims,
when the government's the employer
or the government'srequiring a shot mandate,
the First Amendment,the free exercise clause
of the First Amendment givesadditional rights to employees
or to citizens if youhappen to live in a place
that has shot mandates.
And sometimes you can call Liberty Counsel
and we can assist with perhapschallenging that mandate
if the government is involved.
But for most people facing amandate, it's their employer
and their remedy is goingto be through the EEOC.
They can also go toLiberty Counsel's website,
LC.org/exempt, and finda number of resources
that we've put together to help employees
through that process.
- Let's talk big picture now.
What is your greatestconcern with this mandate
and then going forward as a nation
with personal and religious freedoms?
- Well, the greatest concern,the big picture concern
is that the government has no business
mandating any kind of shots or vaccination
beyond people's willingness to take it.
And so sometimeschallenging these mandates
on religious grounds areone of the few avenues
that we have to push backagainst this kind of overreach.
And so we hope that we'resuccessful in pushing back
by representing peoplewith religious objections,
and then it can serve as a check
on government power going forward
because these mandates,whether it's the government
or even if it's anemployer, are interfering
with what we're made to do.
We're made to work.
We're made to be productive.
And when that's taken away from us
because we won't receive an injection
that we don't want toreceive, that's just wrong,
and we hope that our efforts
will help to push back against that.
- In the past, laws like theHealth Insurance Portability
and Accountability Act, or HIPAA,
have been in place toprotect a person's privacy
when it comes to health issues.
That's also a big concernfor many Americans.
Do you believe thatprivacy and health matters
has taken a hit duringthe pandemic, and if so,
what do you think needs tohappen to restore that privacy?
- That's a great question.
It's subtle, but what we're seeing
is, in cases where areligious exemption is granted
to someone from a vaccination requirement,
that employee might have to wear a mask,
or in some cases we'veseen, they're being asked
to wear a different coloredidentification badge,
something to set themapart from their coworkers.
And that is sharingnecessarily medical information
that should be kept private.
And so employees should push back
against these kinds of requirements
and not allow themselves to be bullied
or separated from therest of their coworkers
as a result of havinga legitimate objection
to taking one of these vaccines.