TONIGHT: SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN; THE SENATE TAKES UP A HOUSE-PASSED BILL THAT COMBINES LIFTING THE DEBT CEILING WITH SHORT-TERM GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
PLUS, INFRASTRUCTURE ROADBLOCK; PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS INSIST ON TACKING ANOTHER 3-POINT-5 TRILLION ...
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- [Jenna] Tonight, shut down show down.
- I will certainly be voting no.
- [Jenna] The Senate takesup a House passed bill
that combines lifting the debt ceiling
with short-term government spending.
- [John] Plus, infrastructure roadblock.
- We have to get to thatreconciliation bill first.
- [John] Progressive Democrats insist
on tagging another threeand a half trillion dollars
on top of the already agreed upon
bipartisan infrastructure bill.
- Never bring a bill to the floor
that doesn't have the votes.
- [Jenna] And roundingthe corner on COVID.
- [Scott] This might be thelast major wave of infection.
- [Jenna] All school-aged children
could soon be eligible for the vaccine.
- All this and moretonight on "Faith Nation."
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Democrats trying to pull offan ambitious political gambit.
Welcome to "FaithNation," I'm John Jessup.
- Good evening, I'm Jenna Browder.
It's a high stakes week on Capitol Hill
for President Biden's agenda.
Democrats desperate to uniteProgressives and moderates
within their party aroundtwo pieces of legislation.
The first a $3.5 trilliontax and spending package.
And the second, a $1trillion infrastructure plan.
- Lawmakers are also hopingto avert a government shutdown
later this week and toraise the debt ceiling
before the United States runsout of money to pay its bills.
For more on where things stand,
we now go to CBN News Capitol Hill
correspondent Abigail Robertson.
Abigail.
- That's right, John.
While many Republicans saythey would support a continuing
resolution that funds thegovernment through December,
they do not want to support one.
that includes that raiseto the debt ceiling.
They say if Democrats aren'tasking for their support
in bills like the $3.5trillion spending package,
for the budget reconciliation package,
they don't want to help themspend and borrow more money.
But regardless, an optimisticPresident Biden said
that he believes democraticleadership will find a way
to get all of this done this week.
- Well, it may not beby the end of the week.
I hope it's by the end of the week,
but as long as we're stillalive, we got three things to do.
The debt ceiling, continued resolution,
and the two pieces of legislation.
We do that, the country'sgonna be in great shape.
- Now, if the House and Senatedon't pass a spending bill
by September 30th, then we'll be headed
towards seeing parts ofthe government shut down.
- And Abby, just how critical is this week
to the president'slegislative agenda and legacy?
- Well, many would argueit is very critical.
But as you heard in thatclip from President Biden,
he kind of gave himself an out by saying
that it doesn't all actuallyhave to be done this week.
But if progressive andcentrist Democrats aren't able
to reach an agreementto get both the bills
they're working on in theHouse passed this week,
it's unclear when, ifever, they'll be able
to reach a compromise andget those bills passed.
So many would say it'sa very critical week
to getting President Biden'sagenda across the finish line.
- All right, Abigail Robertson for us
on Capitol Hill keepingan eye on everything
happening up there, thank you very much.
And now to the battle over abortion.
and a number of divisive cases set to go
before the US Supreme Court this term.
The most controversial may be the case
over a Mississippi abortion law
that could overturn Roe V. Wade.
- That case is set to beargued at the High Court
this December and follows aflurry of legislative efforts
by states to both restrict orimprove access to abortions.
In the wake of Texaseffectively banning abortions
after six weeks, new legislationin California helps kids
as young as 12 years old hideabortions from their parents.
California Governor Gavin Newsome signed
two abortion rights billslast week making it easier
for kids, teens, and young adults
who are still on theirparents' insurance plans
to keep their medical information secret.
Meanwhile, the Democrat controlled
House of Representativesmaking those to right abortion
into US law passed the Women'sHealthcare Protection Act
Friday by the slimmest ofmargins, just seven votes.
- And Speaker Nancy Pelosiprominently backing the bill,
which guarantees a woman'sright to end her pregnancy
as Congress and thestates send conflicting
signals over abortion.
The nine Supreme Court justices,
who could decide the fate of Roe V. Wade,
face a plummeting approvalrating and a presidential
commission studying themakeup of the marble palace.
And John, this is an issuethat has really both sides
fired up, both Republicans and Democrats,
and it's providing a lot offuel and ammo to both of them.
- That is right and a very consequential
Supreme Court term coming up.
- All right, with that,
I believe we have Congressman Chris Smith,
Republican from New Jersey.
Let's go ahead and bring him in.
Congressman, it's great to see you.
Thank you for joining us this evening.
I want to start with somenew polling out from Gallup.
It shows the US Supreme Court
with a historically lowapproval rating following
its decision to uphold the Texas law.
The poll found only 40%approve of the Court.
That's down nine points from July.
Does this give Democrats more leverage
in their effort to remake the Court?
- I would say absolutely not.
You know, the Court,like Congress sometimes
gets very low ratings.
I mean, we're probably at the bottom
of the ratings chart as House and Senate.
But you know, the protectionof unborn children
from the violence of abortion,whether it be decapitation,
dismemberment, chemical poisons,
we need a national debate onabortion like we've never had.
We have fought it on the issue of funding
and sadly, the abortionpresident, Joe Biden,
wants to fund abortion on demand.
And the new bill thatjust passed, as you know,
on Friday is right up until birth,
unfettered access to abortion
and all of the state lawslike Women's Right To Know,
parental consent, waiting periods,
even laws againstPain-Capable Unborn Children
to protect them, there'sseveral of those laws,
all of them would be eviscerated,
would be overturned overnight.
So this is the most extremecongressional bill ever.
- Congressman Smith,it's great to see you.
Along those same lines, whatabout the midterm elections?
That same Gallup pollfound an increasing number
of Americans see the Courtas quote "too conservative,"
maybe not to add to theargument of changing the makeup
of the Court, but couldthis maybe hurt Republicans
in their goal to retake majorities
in the 2022 midterm elections?
- Well, traditionally the party in power
of the White House havea hard time holding
onto the midterms.
We have many, many good candidates
who are running across the country.
We did far better thanwas predicted last time.
We were supposed tolose the number of seats
and we're up to 212 so weare within striking distance
and it is 50 to 50 overon the Senate side.
But I think people aregrowing increasingly fed up.
The Rasmussen poll, which inmy opinion is the best poll,
I follow it every single day,
I've been doing it since it began.
I remember when Bush was running,
the numbers that they'dcome up with typically
on the election are usually right on.
Well, they have Bidendown at 40%, positive,
which is really is at his lowest level.
Other polls comport with that.
But I think it's telling a story
that this extremismthat they have embraced,
whether it be the border, theexodus out of Afghanistan,
which makes us lesssafe, even Leon Panetta,
Obama's former CIA anddefense secretary said
that we're at greater risk now
because of that botched exodus.
And we left Americansbehind and that to me is one
of the most unconscionable things.
I've been in Congress 41 years,
I never, ever, ever thoughta president would leave
Americans behind in a wararea, in a contested area.
And he did, and it was by design.
So that is troubling beyond words.
And I think the American people,
I was out in my district over the weekend,
again, like I alwaysam, and the feedback is
they're fed up with the extremism
on the part of this administration
and Congress is going right along with it.
Can you imagine $3.5 trillion for what?
We're tinkering on bankruptcy.
We don't have that kind of money
and the tax increases willdepress economic growth,
will lead to job lossesthroughout the country
in my state and elsewhere.
So there's very serious issues
that they are embracing with a bear hug.
And it really is Bernie Sanders.
This is his budget that we're voting on
and I will be voting noon that 3.5 trillion.
- All right, CongressmanChris Smith of New Jersey.
It's a big week for all of you up there.
It's go time for sure.
We appreciate you taking thetime with us this evening.
Thank you.
- Thank you so much for having me on.
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- To the Southern bordertonight and that makeshift camp
under the bridge in Del Rio, Texas.
Tonight it sits empty.
Thousands of migrants nowdeported back to Haiti
or moved to other facilities.
More than 17,000 migrants remain in the US
awaiting court dates to plead asylum.
Today at the White House,
Department of Homeland Security Secretary
Alejandro Mayorkas addressed images
of border agents on horseback that seemed
to show the rough treatment of migrants.
- The investigation into what
occurred has not yet concluded.
We know that thoseimages painfully conjured
up the worst elements ofour nation's ongoing battle
against systemic racism.
- And here with us now for more is CBN
chief political analyst David Brody
and Nathan Gonzalez,
editor and publisher of Inside Elections.
Gentlemen, welcome to you both.
Let's just start with whereSecretary Mayorkas left off.
The Biden administration hasbeen taking a lot of heat
from both the right and on the left
for the images coming out of Del Rio,
including that video of agents
on horseback chasing down migrants.
Nathan, is the backlash warranted?
And I guess even more specifically,
how are we seeing this playout when it comes to the polls?
- Yeah, well, if there wasn't anything,
if they weren't doing anything wrong
or everything was copacetic,
then it would have just continued on.
But clearly, based onthe camp being closed
and there not being migrants there,
that there was a change of course.
And I don't believe thatthere are accidents.
Politically, I think thissituation is a good example
of how images can be very powerful
and it can envelop thenews for a very short time.
And though now, becausethe camp is closed,
I think it's going to fadefrom the public spotlight.
But we're going to have dozens more
of these types of events, notnecessarily at the border,
but these type of newsevents with powerful images
that are gonna capture our attention,
things are gonna shift,
and then we're gonna moveon to the next event.
- Yeah, the news cyclecertainly does move quickly.
David, the Biden administrationhas been reverting back
to Trump era rules to deport migrants
amid the COVID pandemic.
Your thoughts on thisand if it's an indication
that maybe the Trump administrationwas on the right track
to fixing the immigration problem.
- Well, this has always beena very difficult situation
for the Biden administration.
They realize that they havea PR problem at the border.
At the same time, they'vebeen talking about,
in essence, kind of an openborders policy to a degree.
But Kamala Harris goes to Guatemala
and other places and says don't come.
So there's been a mixed messages problem
for the Biden administration.
But as it relates to Trump era policies,
let's remember, the Bidenadministration stopped funding
or stopped building the border wall
early on in his administration.
And then also theywanted to stop the remain
in Mexico policy.
Of course, we know a court overturn that,
and it's a long story,
but the bottom line is they'resupposed to start it again,
not because the Bidenadministration wants to.
So this has been a whole kind of a mixed
kit and caboodle for theBiden administration.
And what it's led to isjust a lot of confusion
and a lot of problemsat the border for sure.
- David, while we have you here,
there's the impending government shutdown.
Democrats are trying to tiea short-term spending bill
to a long-term debt ceiling extension.
If they fail and thegovernment does shut down,
who's to blame?
Let's maybe both of you weighin, starting with David.
- Yeah, Nathan, I'd be curiousto get your take on this.
They're not gonna shutthe government down.
They'll do a CR, continuing resolution.
The Democrats know thatthey hold the House,
the Senate, and the White House,
so politically this will go on them.
There'll be blamed for it no matter
what the inner politics here are of it.
It's not the first continuingresolution we've seen.
That's what they do inWashington, CR, CR, CR.
So they'll do it again.
I can't imagine the governmentwill be shut down over this.
But I'd be curious to getNathan's take on that for sure.
- I'm a little bit more pessimistic
in terms of I think it's possible
there's a short term government shut down.
And when I'm talking short,
I'm talking about a couple of days
because we've gone pastthis deadline before.
Over the last couple of years,
we've had these very short shutdowns.
And I agree that becauseDemocrats are in power,
it's more likely that they're blamed.
But we've been throughgovernment shutdowns
when Democrats were in controlI think going back to 2013
and Republicans endedup kind of shouldering
more of that blame on the short term.
So I want to be optimistic, but there is,
I think, actually havingthe government shutdown
might inspire more movement
than what we're seeing right now.
- Nathan, another seeminglyself-imposed roadblock
on The Hill right now is this
bipartisan infrastructure bill.
Democrats want to tie that in
with a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill.
How likely do you see this moving forward?
Democrats seem very divided at this point
and many have said they'refrustrated with the president
that he's not doing moreto push this forward.
- Yeah, well clearly,
if Democrats were all on the same page,
we wouldn't be having thisconversation and they're divided.
And ultimately, what Democrats can agree
on are not the particulars of the bill
or the dollar amount on the bill,
but that if Democrats don't pass something
and have something totake to voters in 2022,
then the whole party'sprobably going to suffer.
And so that has to be the unifying point
and they have to come, bothProgressives and Liberals
and the more moderateDemocrats have to realize
that they need each other.
The reason why they havethe majority is because
they have different peoplefrom different parts
of the ideological spectrum and they each
need different thingswhen they face voters.
- David, a little bit ofa media question here.
The president didn'ttake any formal questions
again today after gettinghis shot only responding
to some shouted questionsfrom the press pool.
Your take here.
Is the press pool and theWhite House press Corps
getting frustrated by the apparent lack
of access to President Biden?
- Well, they're always frustrated,
the press always wants more access
and sure, they're frustrated.
And let's be honest,
as much as they couldn'tstand President Trump,
he gave them full throttle access.
He had the most access of anypresident in recent memory.
I can't remember anyonethat gave him more access
and he was opening upwhat they call pool sprays
in Washington that arenormally five to seven minutes
up to 20, 30, 40 minutes.
Now of course, he was doing that
to make a point politically.
He wanted the informationto get out there.
So yeah, compared to Trump,
that they've got to be frustrated.
But let's remember, JoeBiden, this just in,
and these are his words, notmine, he's a gaff machine.
Once again, don't blameme, I didn't say it.
He called himself that.
And so clearly, he'sgonna be more protected.
- All right, David and Nathan,
we have to leave itthere for this evening.
Thank you both.
- You bet.- Thank you.
- [Jenna] And when we come back,
the president rolls up hissleeve as we mentioned.
What Biden said before getting
his COVID vaccine booster shot.
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- Welcome back.
President Biden is getting a boost,
but not necessarily in the polls.
Mr. Biden received thePfizer vaccine booster today.
At 78, he belongs to agroup of Americans eligible
for the shot, including people over 65,
adults with underlying health conditions
like diabetes or obesity,
and professionals like healthcare workers
and teachers who are at anincreased risk due to their jobs.
- Boosters are important.
But the most important thing we need
to do is get more people vaccinated.
The vast majority of Americansare doing the right thing.
- Well, could the end ofthe pandemic be in sight?
Former FDA commissioner ScottGottlieb believes it is.
- Medical reporter LorieJohnson has more on that.
and his thoughts about the next pandemic.
- About half of all US children ages 12
and older have beenvaccinated against COVID-19.
Currently, the shots are notavailable for younger kids,
but that's likely to change.
Former FDA commissioner ScottGottlieb believes children
five to 11 could be offered their shots
between Halloween and Thanksgiving.
- Now the vaccine for kids aged five
to 11 is basically the same formulation
as a current vaccine,just in a lower dose.
- [Lorie] An even lowerdose will likely be offered
to children ages sixmonths to four early year.
When it comes to adults,
Gottlieb says businessesshould decide whether
to require workers to get thejab adding President Biden's
vaccine mandate may notsurvive legal challenges.
- A lot of businesses thatwere considering mandates,
now might wait because they're gonna wait
to see what the federal government does
and it's gonna take thefederal government months
to implement this mandateif they're ever able to.
And so you might've actuallyslowed down the rate
of decision making inthe private community.
- [Lorie] He saysbusinesses could consider
natural immunity in lieu of vaccines.
- I think we need to recognize that people
who have immunity that'sacquired through infection,
that immunity is durableand it appears quite robust.
I think the question from a clinical
standpoint is how long it's gonna last.
- [Lorie] When it comes to the pandemic,
Dr. Gottlieb has reasonto believe the infamous
Delta surge will be the last one.
Then COVID-19 in the US wouldtransition to an endemic
where the virus becomes aseasonal pattern like the flu.
- I think that this might be the last
major wave of infection.
The idea that this is gonnacontinue to mutate very quickly
and all these mutationsare gonna evade our tools
and this is sort of gonnabe an endless crisis,
I just don't see that.
- [Lorie] However, he saysthe US must take action
to stop the next pandemic,perhaps the bird flu,
which could be right around the corner.
- And I think that there are things
we can do to prevent this kind of episode
from ever happening again.
- [Lorie] In his new book"Uncontrolled Spread,"
Dr. Gottlieb recommends fixing mistakes,
such as not being able to quickly deploy
large scale diagnostic testing,
which could have identifiedasymptomatic cases.
- You'd see a situationwhere 30 people would be
in a room, everyone would be fine,
and then 25 people would get the infection
and so the assumption was itmust've been a contaminated
surface that 25 peoplecame in contact with.
But what actually washappening was there was someone
who was asymptomatic in that setting
who infected the other people.
- [Lorie] The CDC, whichusually takes months
to collect, analyze, anddisseminate information,
found itself ill prepared
when it came to the need for speed.
- And then when theyissued guidance to try
to advise us on how weshould be taking steps
to reduce our individual risk
and how businesses should be taking steps
to reduce their risk,
the guidances oftenweren't very well-informed.
They weren't articulated in a way
that they could beactionable by consumers.
- [Lorie] Then came the inability
to manufacture firstline of defense drugs,
such as antibody treatments.
- We really didn't have theadequate manufacturing capacity
we needed to be able to prepare those
at the scale that was required.
And even now we haveshortages of those drugs,
they're starting to be rationed again.
- [Lorie] And finally, theUS trusted other countries
to admit the emergence of newdiseases within their borders.
- And we've seen time andagain, in a time of crisis,
countries don't share information
and we've been fooled many times.
- [Lorie] Dr. Gottlieb saysUS intelligence agencies
like the CIA and the NSAshould expand their missions
to include surveillance ofsuspicious foreign outbreaks.
Lorie Johnson, CBN News.
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- Finally tonight, a big American victory
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Dominating 19-9 win overEurope this weekend,
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- Now the United States onlyneeded three and a half points
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The United States teamcaptain described his youthful
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and six who were makingthe Ryder Cup debut.
The youngest in thegroup, Collin Morikawa,
went undefeated and secured the half point
that sealed the team'svictory Sunday afternoon
and launched them into the spotlight.
Jenna, you watched thisgame over the weekend.
- I did, so my husband,he's a big golf fan
and he's gotten me into watching it.
And what's neat about this is that it's,
you know, golf is such an individual sport
and this is when they reallyall come together on a team.
There's a ton ofcomradery, just team spirit
that you don't normally see.
And it's a very patriotic event.
- One for the history books.
Thanks for watching.
- Have a great night.