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- Even with three guilty verdicts

against the officer chargedin George Floyd's death,

some say black Americansstill feel threatened.

In fact, black gun ownership is up 60%

according to the NationalShooting Sports Foundation,

and some say that's inresponse to continued violence

against that community.

Another response, a newblack militia group.

I sat down with its founder

to find out why he started the group,

which is growing innumbers and popularity.

- I have a very hard timeexplaining to my child

about the bygone era of lynching

when there's suspicion thata lynching just happened,

when we start seeingthe Ahmaud Arbery case

where white men hunted downa black man and killed him.

- [Eric] John Johnson, better known

by his former DJ name, Grandmaster Jay,

is the supreme commander of the NFAC,

the Not F-ing AroundCoalition, a black militia.

- We're not having the lies.

We're not having theunequal administration

of justice anymore.

We're not having

existing under theconditions that have been set

by another race that donothing but hamstring us

and are detrimental to our very existence.

We're not having it anymore.

I didn't form the group.

The group was formed out of necessity

based on the environment and the pressures

being exacted upon the black population.

- [Eric] Founded in 2020,Johnson claims the NFAC

has become a global forcehelping push the investigations

into the killings of AhmaudArbery and Breonna Taylor.

DePaul University professorThomas Mockaitis told NBC News

that the NFAC is differentfrom far-right militias,

some of whom were involvedin the Capitol insurrection.

- They have not risento the level of concern

of, say, the ThreePercenters, the Oath Keepers.

They have not engaged in violence.

In fact, in most of theirdemonstrations they have, in fact,

coordinated their activities with police.

- CBN News asked the FBI about the NFAC.

Officials responded thatthey have no comment,

adding that the FBI doesnot investigate groups

and that their investigations focus solely

on criminal activity.

What is the necessity to beheavily armed as the group is?

- What do you mean why the guns?

Why not? Everyone else has guns.

This country was born out of revolution.

We fought over slavery with guns.

As a matter of fact, theyleft the British with guns.

As a matter of fact,when the police show up,

the first thing they pull out is a gun.

- [Eric] According to Johnson,

his group has a few main goals:

to protect and police the black community,

to underscore the right ofblack Americans to bear arms.

- To form the backbone of a military force

that would facilitate theexodus from this country

of those willing to go somewhere

to establish an ethno-nation

that's based totally on our culture,

gives us the ability to determine our path

so that we too can have a seatat the international table

like every other race on this planet.

- Police officers are killingblack people with impunity

and it doesn't seem likethis kind of violence

is going to abate unless, ofcourse, black folk do something

to bring about its end.

- [Eric] Dr. Judson Jeffries is professor

of African American Studiesat the Ohio State University.

- So that police understand that,

hey listen, there could be a consequence

if I go into blackcommunities and misbehave.

That's missing.

That's why I think a group like the NFAC

is very important these days.

- [Eric] After theofficer who placed a knee

on George Floyd's neck wasfound guilty of murder,

Johnson shared thisobservation with me by phone.

"Ever since the verdict,there has been a perception

of an uptick in law enforcementshootings," Johnson said,

"which is an expectationbecause of our relationship

between police and culture, orwhat I call police backlash."

Andrew Brown, Ma'Khia Bryant,Daunte Wright, Adam Toledo,

all black, all shot to death by police

in the weeks surrounding the verdict.

Johnson said, "I findthese all to be tragedies.

The gun has become the judge, jury,

and executioners on American streets.

Community policing couldhave stopped Ma'Khia Bryant

from being shot.

Community policing could havesaved Daunte Wright's life."

But that's why the NFAChas emerged, Johnson says,

to try to give justice a nudge.

And while 18-year-olds can join up,

the NFAC is built on a military structure

and tends to target mature members

in their 40s, 50s and 60s,some of them veterans.

Johnson says there'salso extensive training.

- There is one statecommander in every state

and then there are chapterswith chapter commanders.

I sit at the top of that pyramidas the supreme commander.

There are background checks.

There are criminal checks.

NFAC has a zero record of arrests.

We have a zero recordof property destruction.

We have a zero record ofanyone shooting anyone.

We have a zero record of violence.

- [Eric] Those words spokenbefore Johnson himself

was arrested and federally indicted

for allegedly pointingan AR platform rifle

at an FBI agent and otherlaw enforcement officers

during a Breonna Taylor protest,

something he aggressively denies,

asserting he was targetedbecause of who he is.

Still, that has not taken the steam

out of the NFAC's mission.

- This group is basically saying, "Listen,

we're exercising ourSecond Amendment right

with the express purposeof protecting black folks

from the indiscriminateviolence by police officers,

especially white police officers,

who come into our communities

and snuff out black lives premature."

- We're not anti-Semitic.

We're not a hate group.

We're not terrorists.

We are the response to thecontinued repeated injustice

against our people.

We're not left and we're not right.

We are what we said we are.

- While Johnson says thegroup is not political,

he himself ran for president back in 2016

as an independent candidate.

He says this movement isabout justice and not revenge,

the key being justice operates

within the confines of the law.

And he says he insists on the NFAC

being a law-abiding organization.

In Washington, Eric Philips, CBN News.