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Kary Oberbrunner on Becoming "Unhackable"

Kary Oberbrunner shares how to live fully and achieve God's purpose for one's life by becoming "Unhackable." Read Transcript


- You know, the average adultmakes 35,000 decisions a day.

Our modern world has given us

more and more options and information,

and with so much spinning in our brains,

is it any wonder that somany of us are stressed out?

So what's the solution?

Well, Kary Oberbrunner says

all we need is to become unhackable.

- [Reporter] Kary Oberbrunner is the CEO

of Igniting Souls.

As a writer, speaker, and coach,

he helps people go from dreaming to doing

and learning how to avoiddigital distractions

is the first step.

- And your brain gets hackedany time you get sidelined

or sabotaged in life

because you're basically saying

I don't feel like I'm in control anymore.

- [Reporter] Kary explainshow to achieve greater focus

to fulfill our goals inhis new book "Unhackable."

- Hi, Kary, it's nice tohave you with us today.

In what ways, what do you mean

when you say we're being hacked?

- Yeah, Terry, basically theword hacked means when someone

or something gains unauthorized access

to a system or a computer.

And so a lot of us think aboutbank accounts getting hacked

or computers getting hacked, smartphones,

but in reality thinkback to biology class.

And when you do,

we realize that our bodiesare made up of systems,

circulatory, respiratory, pulmonary,

and our brains are like supercomputers.

And so essentially, when someone

or something gains unauthorizedaccess to our brains,

we are getting hacked.

And today with technology,

although technology is not the enemy,

it certainly makes it moredifficult to be unhackable.

The average person touches,clicks, swipes their smartphone

2,600 times a day.

- So we need to be ableto manage all of that.

You say these disruptionslead to decision fatigue.

How does that affect us?

- Yeah, we wake up, youknow, every single day

that we're alive, that Godgives us that gift, with energy.

And the problem today is that we have,

like you mentioned, 35,000 decisions

that the average person makes.

Just food alone, according toCornell University, is 226.

So you go to The Cheesecake Factory,

you open up your menu andthere's hundreds of choices.

Well, what happens isour brains were not wired

or created in such a way tohandle all these decisions.

I mean, back in the day it waslike chicken or beef, right?

But what happens then iswe literally get drained

and we see this at the end of the day.

A lot of adults say I'm running on fumes,

I'm going on empty,

I feel like I'm drained,these types of things.

And so what happens is we go through

what's called decision fatigue.

A lot of successful people

are now automating their decisions.

So you saw this with certainCEOs years ago where they said,

"I'm only gonna wear thiswardrobe every single day,"

because they said they didn't want

to spend their decision power

on essentially non-important decisions.

What we can do, Terry,for all your listeners,

something that we can dois something very simple

which is called closingopen decision loops.

So think about it.

If people right now wrotedown all the decisions

that are kind of open in their minds,

maybe run to the grocerystore, get a landscaper,

all these things thathave not yet been decided,

it's just like a computer

when you have too manytabs open on your browser.

It sucks up the mental RAM essentially.

And so, you know, it says in the Bible,

here we are on this amazing show,

you know, it says let youryes be yes and your no be no.

Instead of having, well maybe, well maybe,

the moment you keep doingall those open loops,

you leak your mental energyto live in those what-ifs.

And as a result, you reallycan't show up filled up.

- So one of the thingsthat you say that we can do

to deal with some of this decision fatigue

is to do, delegate, dump.

What does that mean?

- Yeah, well, there's afourth one called delay,

and we crossed that out

because here's a great exercise

that I encourage all my clients.

You write down all thedecisions that are undone

and by the way, the worddecide is very cool.

It means to cut off, to cut off or kill,

and it's the same suffix

as genocide, pesticide, insecticide.

In other words, decide is final,

and it's cutting off the other options.

And what you do, Terry, isyou essentially write down

all your decisions,

and then what I do is Iput do, delegate, or dump.

And literally I take those decisions

and say, "I'm gonna dothat one," meaning I do it,

or I'm gonna delegate it,meaning someone else does it,

or I'm gonna dump it,which means no one does it.

Don't put all your decisionsfor delay because again,

it will chew up that mentalenergy and you will get hacked.

And we know that peoplethat get hacked in life,

their brains, they really aren'tpeople who make an impact.

In other words, no one makesit to the end of their life

and says, "You know what?

"I lived a great lifebecause I was distracted."

- [Terry] Yeah.

(both laugh)

It says in scripture to look on to Jesus,

the author and finisher,you know, to fix your eyes.

And so the Bible's fully, you know,

whether it's Nehemiah building the wall,

the scriptures are full of people

who were focused,- Exactly.

and that's what we're (indistinct).

- Well, you can learn more,all of you who are listening,

from Kary Oberbrunner in his new book.

It's called "Unhackable."

Lots of wisdom, and it'savailable in stores nationwide.

Thanks for being with us, Kary.

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