EXCLUSIVE: Myanmar's Special Envoy to the United Nations Talks About the Challenges Facing His Nation
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- To discuss the ongoingsituation in Myanmar,
I'm joined by my next guest, Dr. Sasa,
who is a well-known philanthropist,
doctor, and a humanitarian.
Dr. Sasa, thank you so muchfor coming on the broadcast.
As I mentioned, you are awell-known person in Myanmar.
You've spent your life doingall kinds of humanitarian work
and helping those whoare vulnerable and needy,
but you have now justaccepted the position
as Myanmar's representativeto the United Nations.
So why did you decideto accept this position?
- Yeah, I have seen thesuffering of the people,
my people, and the atrocities and the pain
that was purposely imposed on the people
of Myanmar for so long and for so much.
So I believe that being in this position,
I'll be able to help thepeople who are in need more
and ease the suffering andthe pain and also injustice.
And all these atrocities
are continuing in ourcountry, unfortunately.
- Can you talk about what you see
as your main role in this new position
as Myanmar's representativeto the United Nations
- I wanna make sure theinternational community
are aware that thesemilitary dictatorships,
that this military coup isillegitimate, is illegal,
and that on 8th of November,2020, the people of Myanmar
have chosen their representative,
democratically elected memberof parliament by the people,
for the people of Myanmar,
but it was overthrown inthe middle of the night
on the 1st of February, 2021.
So I want to make sure thatthe international community
recognize us legitimategovernment, legitimate lawmakers,
not that illegal militaryregime in the country.
That only bring thedarkness and the suffering
to the people of Myanmar.
- You have a very hugefollowing on social media,
specifically on Facebook.
And recently, you postedon Facebook asking people
to send you information,video testimony evidence
of the alleged atrocities being committed
by the military junta.
What have you received sofar and what can you tell us
about the extent of theirhuman rights violations?
- The state forces, the securityforces, the armed forces,
who should be protectingthe people of Myanmar,
are now against the peopleof Myanmar brutally.
And it's very sad.
They have declared a waron the people of Myanmar
in a very aggressive way,and the rights of the people,
particularly targeting the critics.
- You had a chance to have a meeting
with the representativesof the United Nations.
Can you tell us what you told them
about the situation in your country?
- We have collected allkinds of information
of the brutality andthe human rights abuses
and the violations committedby the security forces
in the last three weeks.
And so it is really for us to submit
all those evidence thatprove to United Nations,
Human Rights Council, andalso UN Security Council,
to build up the maximum pressures
to these brutal military regimes.
- We have seen, for thefirst time in this protest
that thousands ofpro-military junta supporters
are now taking to the streetsof Mandalay, of Yangon.
Do you fear that this justescalates the situation
right now in your country?
- Well, it is the fact that by
this same military co-leaders,
they are given the cash, 5,000, which is
$3 per day,
so that they can goand protest and disturb
these people who are pro-democracy.
And so it's very evil.
What they are doing is very evil.
And they make our country poor
and they make the economy collapse.
They created a situationwhere all these people
will be collapse of healthcareand collapse of economy.
And they have created a system
where all these people willbe suffering to the maximum.
And so now the people arehaving no food to eat.
And again, they will get some cash
and say, "Look, I'll give you $3 per day.
"You go and do for me this."
So I have got a list of everythingthat they've calculated,
how much they paid to whom.
And we have got people whoare distributed the pictures,
everything, evidencethat they are doing this.
They are making the people of Myanmar
against the people of Myanmar.
So it's evil
- The U.S. administrationunder President Biden
has slapped sanctions on various generals
in the military junta.
Do you think that the UnitedStates and Western countries
should also slap sanctions on the various
lucrative businesses that the military
has across the country?
From SIM cards, towireless, to communications,
to all the various enterprises
that is raking in billionsof dollars for the military?
Would you like the U.S. to do that?
- Yeah, I mean, sanctioningand punishing the generals,
it's not enough.
The one who supported them into this power
are the same as the onewho's committed this crime
against humanity.
So we are making a least of the company
and the people associatewith this regime, junta.
So all those business who involved
with these militaryleaderships must be punished
because all the bullets and the weapons
that they are killingagainst their own people
are coming from those kinds of businesses.
And therefore, we are now asking
Mr. President Biden administration
to make tougher sanctions,
and also British governmentand European Union,
to make bigger sanctions onthe people who support them.
- Obviously, the military generals
do not recognize your appointment
as the representativeto the United Nations.
Are you afraid for your life?
Are you concerned thatyou might be arrested?
- Definitely, they willdo anything to harm us.
They have issued severalnotification threatening us.
But I don't believe that
they will be able todo what they wanted to.
And then I believe that
this is a very importantmission that we have to do.
And I do not serve the evil.
I do not serve their purpose.
I am not appointed by the generals
but I am appointed bythe people of Myanmar.
Therefore, I will representthe people of Myanmar
till the end.
- You don't hide the factthat you are a Christian
and you rely on your faith.
Can you talk about maybe some Bible verses
that have encouragedyou, given you strength
in the middle of this very difficult time?
- I accept Jesus as my savior and my Lord,
and I believe that hedied for me on the cross.
He came from heaven to Earthto serve so that I can live.
He died so that I can live.
It's very simple.
So I think if to summarize,it's all about love.
And I'm encouraged, and also reading
1 Corinthians 13:1-7
about love.
I live by that and alsodeeply touched by that verses
that talk about love.
Love is kind, love ispatient, love is not boastful.
All that chapter and verse is my favorite.
And also, I'm really encouraged.
And then get the energy and strength
from Matthew 5:3-12.
Where Jesus was talking about,
"Blessed are those whoare poor in the spirit
"for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"Blessed are those who who are mourned,
"they will be comforted."
It say, "Blessed thatthose who are merciful,
"for they will see the mercy."
And, "Blessed are those whohunger and thirst for justice
"for they will be satisfied."
They are blessed.
And those who are thosewho are "pure in heart
"for they will see God."
And I'm really, reallyinspired by all those verses.
And I believe that those are living words,
are so much to our life and our way.
And I mean, even our political work,
I think it's veryimportant that Jesus said,
"Love your neighbor as you love yourself."
And again, and say, even love your enemy.
- How would you Christiansaround the world
to pray for your nation?
- I will really appreciate
if our brothers andsisters around the world
pray for my country inthis time of troubles.
This is a very difficult timefor my people and country,
and all 54 million peoplein Myanmar are under siege
by the evil and darkness.
And no one of the 54million are safe right now.
We all are in that fearand living under siege.
Including our president
and State Counselor Aung San Suu Kyi.
So I ask all our friends and also family
and our brothers and sisters in Christ,
to remember our peopleand country in a prayer.
In 24 hours in a day, ifyou can give two minutes
to pray for us, I believethat we will see the miracles
that we never have seen before.
And that is the freedomof the people of Myanmar
and the democratic society of Myanmar,
as a thriving and blessing,not only for the country
but also for the regionand the whole world.
But I believe that the prayercan move the mountains.
So the mountain is not the mountain
in geographical locations,
the mountain in the hearts of the people,
particularly the army.
We need to remove the mountains
of these evils in their hearts.
But it's only by spirit, onlyby faith we can remove that.
So I hope and pray thatif the whole world join us
in a prayer at least two minutes a day,
I believe that that evilmountains will be removed
and that there will be the kingdom come.
The kingdom of love, the kingdom of hope,
the kingdom of peace, anda kingdom of thriving,
and that his kingdom of forgiveness.
His kingdom of reconciliation
will come to my people and country.
- Thank you so much forcoming on the broadcast,
and we wish you the best
and our prayers are with youand the nation of Myanmar.
Thank you for coming on the show.
- Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. God bless.
- God bless.