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Faith Nation: January 7, 2021

Violent rioters tried to stop it from happening but congress pushes ahead and certifies the election of Joe Biden. Plus meet the man who didn't buckle under pressure from President Trump. We talk with the Georgia Secretary of State. And has ... ... Read Transcript


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- [John] Tonight, violent rioters tried

to stop it from happening.

- Those who strove to deterus from our responsibility,

you have failed.

Justice will be done.

- [John] But Congress certifiesthe election of Joe Biden.

The latest.

Plus, meet the man who didn't buckle

under extreme pressurefrom President Trump.

Our exclusive with Georgia'ssecretary of state.

And-

- We see governors who areleaving vaccines sitting

in freezers rather than gettingit out into people's arms.

- [John] Has the UnitedStates botched the coronavirus

vaccine rollout?

All this and more tonighton "Faith Nation."

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- Tonight, calls to removethe president from office

with just 13 days until the inauguration.

Welcome to "Faith Nation"tonight, I'm Tara Mergener.

- And good evening, I'm John Jessup.

Tonight new threats of impeachment

against President Trump within hours

of Congress confirming Joe Biden's

election win earlier this morning.

- That's right.

Lawmakers working through the night

after a violent mob loyal to the president

stormed the US Capitol in an attempt

to overturn election results.

CBN's White House CorrespondentBen Kennedy joining us

now for tonight's top story.

Ben.

- Well, Tara and John,House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

and Senate Minority LeaderChuck Schumer are calling

on President Trump's cabinetto invoke the 25th Amendment

and to remove their commanderin chief from office

with less than two weeks left on the job.

Now, this all stems fromthe violence on Capitol Hill

which you two were just talking about.

We've also heard fromPresident-elect Joe Biden today

and he too is calling on theremoval of President Trump.

- It was chaos.

They weren't protesters, don'tdare call them protesters.

They were a riotous mob,

insurrectionist, domestic terrorists.

- [Ben] Yet, lawmakers madesure he did not stop them

from finishing the task they started.

Just before 4:00 a.m., theycertified Joe Biden's win

in the Electoral College.

Most Republicans who had planned

to challenge the vote returned

to the chamber with a change of heart.

Senator Lindsey Grahamsaid enough is enough.

- I supported President Trump.

I've become close to thepresident personally.

When it comes to accountability,

the president needs to understand

that his actions were theproblem, not the solution.

- We gather due to aselfish man's injured pride

and the outrage of supporters

who he has deliberately misinformedfor the past two months.

What happened here todaywas an insurrection incited

by the president of the United States.

- [Ben] Delaying the proceedings,

a mob of Trump's supportersand likely others

that marched on CapitolHill breached barricades

forcing lawmakers to flee for safety.

Pictures show guardswith guns drawn crouching

behind barriers to keepintruders out of the chambers.

- What happened yesterdayis textbook terrorism.

- [Ben] During the chaos,Trump released a video

on Twitter telling the mob to go home

while also praising themand condemning the election.

- This was a fraudulent election

but we can't play intothe hands of these people.

We have to have peace so go home.

- [Ben] Twitter pulled the video

locking the president's account.

Facebook also bannedthe commander in chief

from posting on their platforms.

- Trying to use a mobto silence the voices

of nearly 160 million Americanswho summoned the courage

in the face of a pandemicthat threatened their health

and their lives to castthat sacred ballot.

- [Ben] In the end, oneprotestor was killed shot

by an officer inside the Capitol.

Three others died from medical emergencies

and 52 people were arrested.

- The president has committedan unspeakable assault

on our nation and our people.

I join the Senatedemocratic leader in calling

on the vice presidentto remove this president

by immediately invokingthe 25th Amendment.

- [Ben] After the Capitol was cleared,

President Trump promised to quote,

"orderly transition on January 20th."

Open remarks are usuallyscheduled for around 11:30 a.m.

Once Biden takes the oath of office,

he will be sworn in as the 46th president

and move into the WhiteHouse later that day.

- So as we stand here today,

we do so in the wakeof yesterday's events,

events that could not morehave vividly demonstrated some

of the most important workwe have to do in this nation.

- And today, Biden nominatedJudge Merrick Garland

for Attorney General andBoston Mayor Marty Walsh

to serve as LaborSecretary as he continues

to build his team for office.

John, Tara.

- All right, thank you.

CBN White House Correspondent Ben Kennedy.

As a member of the UnitedStates House of Representatives,

Congressman MorganGriffith was, of course,

taking part in that joint session

when the Capitol wasoverrun by protesters.

He joins us now after a longnight and a dramatic day.

Congressman, thank you somuch for being with us.

Can you first offdescribe what it was like

when you learned what was happening

at the Capitol and your reaction?

- Well, we heard all thenoise but I had faith

in the officers of the Capitol police.

Even though they hadbreached and gotten in,

they were making sure that we were safe.

I was never panicked or afraid

but I know there were people who were.

You heard the bang on the doors.

You could see that theywere trying to get in.

The Capitol police then evacuated us

from the floor and took usto a undisclosed location

so that we would be in a place

where they could be moresecure about our safety.

I appreciated that.

We waited for hours and then we went back

and did the job of thepeople and finished our work.

- Mitch McConnell called thebreach of security a failure.

Congressman and leaderSchumer says he plans

to fire the Sergeant at Arms.

Do you think enough hasbeen done to prepare

for this or, heavenforbid, a future assault?

- I think we have to re-examineeverything that happened.

Clearly, they weren't prepared for it.

Were they following all the protocols

that had been laid out?

I don't know.

Were they prepared?

There was some confusion as to where

we were going for theundisclosed location.

It would seem they shouldhave probably known that.

But this is a decisionthat leadership's going

to have to make as faras the head people go.

But clearly, we need tohave a complete review

of everything that we're doing

as far as security is concerned.

And we need to take a lookat protests in the Capitol.

We need to have protests.

That's part of ourrepublic and our democracy.

But we also need to make sure

that if there's any chance ofa protest becoming violent,

that we can protect thegovernment facilities

and make sure that those people

who want to protestpeacefully are able to do so

in spite of violent thugs who may try

to take over the protest.

- That's certainly a lotto consider moving forward.

Once the House did get back into session,

you raised a parliamentary inquiry

that caused a stir among Democrats.

What exactly were you hoping to achieve?

- Well, we need to set theexample for the American public

that we need to tone downthe rhetoric a little bit.

You hear the Democrats always talking

about the rhetoric fromthe president and others

and Conor Lamb took thefloor, said that those people

who are exercising theirconstitutional right

to challenge objectorsdid not deserve respect

and that lies were being told

on the floor of the United States House.

That's a breach at the core

and it's a breaking in the rules.

Speaker Pelosi ruledthat I didn't get there

fast enough to the micto make the objection.

But I would note that ConorLamb only had five minutes.

He talked for a minute or so.

I jumped up, went down tothe mic, made the objection,

and he still had severalminutes to object.

So I guess you have to bethere within 30 seconds

or try to anticipate that somebody's going

to say something inflammatorythat's a breach of decorum

before they actually say it.

- Congressman Griffith,

there's been widespread fallout tonight.

A number of high profileWhite House resignations,

also talk of impeachment andinvoking the 25th Amendment

to oust the president.

How do you think thecountry should proceed?

And does this kind ofchatter dash any hope

of Americans unitingunder a new administration

and a new Congress?

- Well, it certainly makes it difficult

for all of those people whosupported President Trump,

even though he could have donemore yesterday in my opinion.

Those people are not going to take kindly

to him being removed from office.

But if there is somekind of a medical problem

that's going on that we don't know about,

his cabinet and the peopleare closest to him know that.

That's why the 25th Amendmentgives them the power

to start that process.

So, if they don't take actionthat is their prerogative.

And obviously, impeachment at this point

with less than 13 days togo is just not rational.

You would think ourleadership would want to look

at what makes sense asopposed to making some

kind of an irrational claim or demand.

- Virginia Congressman Morgan Griffith.

We know that you had a long night.

We are so appreciative thatyou've made some time for us

and grateful that you andyour colleagues are safe.

Thanks for being with us today.

- Very great to be with you, thank you.

- Transportation SecretaryElaine Chao is stepping down

now although she is the only

cabinet member resigning as of this point.

A number of other of Trumpadministration officials

also are leaving their posts after

yesterday's events onCapitol Hill including former

acting White House Chiefof Staff Mick Mulvaney.

Since leaving the WestWing, he's been serving

as the Special Envoy to Northern Ireland.

- It's a small job, it's a part-time gig,

but it's all I've got toin the administration.

I called Mike Pompeo lastnight to let him know

to tell him that I'dbe resigning from that.

And I wouldn't be surprised

to see more of my friends resign.

- Among others resigning,

former Press Secretaryand current Chief of Staff

to the first lady Stephanie Grisham

and Deputy National SecurityAdvisor Matt Pottinger.

- And with us now, David Brody,

CBN News Chief Political Analyst.

David, great to have you here.

Congress certified the electoral vote.

Trump released a statement saying

there will be a peacefultransfer of power.

David, does this signal

that he's done with his election fight?

- Oh yeah, it's over.

In the Bible, doesn't it sayit is finished? (chuckles)

Well, I think this isthe political equivalent.

It's over.

It's interesting these, andthey're not protestors, okay?

This is a violent mob that tookover the Capitol yesterday.

Many of them, Trump supporters,

at least that's what webelieve at this point.

But let's be honest.

You know, John, they wantedto cause divisiveness

in this country, anarchy, chaos.

You know what they ended up doing?

They actually created a bit of unity

for about 12 hours or so.

And what do I mean by that?

You had the presidentof the United States,

who we knew would never really concede,

come out, as you said, and talk about

how we're going to nowhave an orderly transition.

Do we really think DonaldTrump would have ever

said anything like that ifthe US Capitol wasn't stormed

yesterday by this violent mob?

So look, they actually brought unity.

By the way, what they did was horrible.

I'm not saying what they did was good.

I'm just saying that ironically,they brought some unity.

- David, speaking of that unity,

a number of Republicanswho supported the objection

flipped their position after the siege.

And there have been severalresignations, possibly more.

Is President Trump today weakened?

And if so, what doesthat mean for Trumpism

in the future of the Republican Party?

- No, it's a great question, John.

Yes, he's weakened.

And the day of reckoning forthe Republican Party is here.

We're watching it take place.

As a matter of fact, I don'tknow if you noticed, John,

but we just saw Josh Hawleyand Ted Cruz announce

that they're runningfor president in 2024.

How did they do it?

By objecting to the Electoral College

and they kept with those objections.

My point is, is that there'sgoing to be some fissure

and division lines in this party.

You've got Josh Hawley,Ted Cruz, Donald Trump

kind of on that one side of MAGA nation.

And then you've got, atthis point, Mike Pence

and Nikki Haley most likely,Tom Cotton, possibly Mike,

we'll see about MikePompeo on the other side.

The point is, and I say on the other side,

but there's this linein the Republican Party

and it's dividing the Republicans.

It's dividing MAGAnation a little bit too.

And so it's gonna be interestingto watch this all play out.

- David, can we talk about Mike Pence

and his break with President Trump?

Until yesterday, he's beenviewed as a loyal soldier.

Talk about that very public break

and how that might factor into 2024.

- Well, I got to tell you,

it's going to be a storyline to watch.

Clearly you have a vicepresident who has been

beyond loyal to this president.

And so here's Mike Pence

basically having to certifyJoe Biden's victory.

And it has made him, in many of the eyes

of MAGA nation, a traitor.

But you know what'sinteresting here, John,

is that if Mike Pence was aUS senator or a congressman,

of course he was acongressman at one point,

you could be sure he would have been one

of the ones objecting.

- David, not withstanding the violence

and destruction we witnessed yesterday,

where does the passion that's bottling

up the anger and frustration go from here?

- Well, let's take a step back.

When you talk about anger and frustration

and the bottling up, yousaw all of that, obviously,

in Washington DC yesterday.

And I don't just mean thestorming of the Capitol,

I'm talking about the tens of thousands

of people that weremarching and they were angry

but they didn't storm the Capitol.

Let's remember, therewere a couple thousand

that stormed the Capitol,

but tens and tens andtens of thousands did not.

And that's the anger that's out there.

That's the frustration that's out there.

Not just people storming the Capitol.

And so the question is,why were they angry?

Was it about that?

Oh no, Donald Trump lost the election,

even though they didn't think he lost.

That's not really it.

What it really is about is that they feel

that not only this election was rigged

but they're very concernedabout future elections.

They're concerned aboutthe integrity of elections

and they're concerned aboutDemocrats running roughshod,

not just over the Constitutionand over election integrity,

but over Judeo-Christianprinciples in this country.

And I think it's all come to a head

and there's this real anger.

And then it gets back to thequestion you asked me before.

So what happens toRepublicans, conservatives,

MAGA nation with all this anger in 2024?

That's the line right here.

Are you in the Trump orbit?

The Hawley-Cruz orbit?

Are you a little bit moreon the Pence-Haley orbit?

Because that's going toprobably end up happening.

That's what people in the conservative

and Republican parties aregoing to have to decide.

- David, that's going to have

to be the final word for tonight.

David Brody, CBN NewsChief Political Analyst.

Thank you so much.

- Thanks, John.

- [Tara] He is the man at the center

of the Georgia electionsand the president's anger.

More about Brad Raffensperger

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We learned this week Georgiais sending two Democrats

to Washington afterwinning their runoff races.

But another elected officialfrom the Peach State is

in the stinging glare of the spotlight.

- That's right.

Since November, Brad Raffenspergerhas received ridicule

and personal threats forhis role overseeing two

recounts that delivered thestate still to Joe Biden,

not to mention a pressurecampaign to change the results

revealed in leaked audio

with President Trump earlier this week.

- CBN's Eric Philips interviewed him

and learned he's notso easily intimidated.

- Prior to this week, mostpeople outside of Georgia

probably did not know thename, Brad Raffensperger.

But recent recordingsof a phone conversation

between him and the presidentthrust this state politician

into the national spotlight.

Although facing tough pressure

from the president over election results,

Raffensperger stood byhis beliefs likely because

he's no stranger to pressure,personal or professional.

and he knows how to lean on his faith.

- We're called to make sure

that we just walk that line of integrity.

- [Eric] There's no question

65-year-old BradRaffensperger knows who he is.

- I'm a constitutionalChristian conservative

and I'm real proud and I'm not changing.

- [Eric] So after the November election

when the storm started ragingall the way from Washington-

- He's an enemy of the people,the secretary of state,

whether he's Republican or not.

- [Eric] Raffensperger remained grounded.

- It's inflammatory,

but also it just really borders on silly.

And at the end of the day,he may be disappointed

but he should have run a better campaign.

And I wish he would've.

- [Eric] The presidentblamed the secretary of state

for not doing more to stop alleged fraud.

- They cheated and they riggedour presidential election.

- [Eric] The anger onlyincreased when Raffensperger,

a Trump supporter, certifiedthe election in Georgia.

- As secretary of state,I believe that the numbers

that we have presented today are correct.

The numbers reflect theverdict of the people.

- [Eric] But questions persisted.

So Raffensperger ordereda hand and machine recount

both confirming the original results.

- As a Republican, was I disappointed?

Of course I was because I vote for my team

which are Republicans.

But as secretary of state,

our job is to follow thelaw, follow the processes.

And I think that integrity still matters.

- [Eric] Many Trump supporters were irate.

And when Republican senatorsin the runoff called

for Raffensperger's resignation,

the atmosphere grew hostelprompting 24/7 security.

- As soon as the two senatorsasked for me to resign,

the threats started coming in immediately.

And they actually camein to my wife first.

We saw Antifa, we saw BLM.

We said, "How come theleaders of the Democrat Party,

haven't condemned those?"

And then it comes onour side and it's like,

"Well, how come ourleadership hasn't condemned

all these threats of violence?"

Because what they're doing is unpatriotic.

- [Eric] As difficult as thiselection season has been,

this is far from the toughest trial

Raffensperger has faced in his life.

That happened three years ago

when his adult son died from an overdose.

We've lost a son andthat same son had cancer

when he was 26 and thatwas a challenging time.

We always leaned into our faithand we leaned on each other.

It's just an incrediblehurt and incredible pain.

It doesn't matter what thereason, what the cause is.

It's just deep grief.

They're always for childand it's devastating.

And what else can you do?

We had something to lean into

with each other and our faith in Christ.

- [Eric] He credits hisfaith and a strong marriage

for giving him the strengthto endure tough times.

- As a business owner, it's perseverance,

sticking with things.

And then really just having, Ithink I have the perfect wife

in the world and I'm just so grateful.

I met Trisha in high school

and we live life and we'velived it with the Lord.

- [Eric] Raffenspergersays he'll continue doing

his elected job to the best of his ability

including overseeing elections.

He says he's proud ofhow November 3rd went

despite the outcome.

- It was a very successful election.

They say, "How could you say that?"

Because it was a successful election.

We had record turnout.

We did have record absenteeballots that were sent in,

over 1.3 million voters voted absentee.

And as long as we have folkswith that personal integrity,

democracy and the constitutionalrepublic will be safe

here in the state of Georgia.

- Secretary of state is a tough job

but Raffensperger doesnot shrink back from it.

In fact, he says voterscan expect to see his name

on the ballot in 2022 as heseeks to serve a second term.

I did ask him if he hasgubernatorial aspirations

as his predecessor Brian Kemp did.

Of course, Kemp went on to be governor.

Raffensperger told me he'sfocused on the job at hand.

At the Georgia state capital,Eric Philips, CBN News.

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