- And joining us now, Robert Jeffress,

pastor of First Baptist Dallas.

Pastor Jeffress, thankyou for being with us

on such an unforgettable day.

Pastor, earlier today,

Southern Baptist leaderRussell Moore tweeted,

"This mob attack on ourCapitol and our Constitution

"is immoral, unjust,dangerous, "and inexcusable.

"What has happened toour country is tragic,

"and could have been avoided."

Emotions are running high,

and I find it very telling, pastor,

that Russell Moore used the word mob.

- Well, I think we've gottabe clear and consistent

as Christians on this,

and I pointed out a few moments ago,

disobeying and assaulting police is a sin,

whether it's done by Antifaor by angry Republicans.

This is a sin, it is wrong,

and we need to speak out loudly against it

if we're true believers.

The world is watching tosee if we're consistent

in our position or not.

We were very quick andvery right to condemn

what happened earlier this year

with the Antifa mobs in majorcities throughout the country,

including my own city of Dallas.

We need to be equally vocal

in denouncing this kind of violence

when it's done by people

we may happen to agree with politically.

What they're doing is wrong.

- Pastor, it is good fortunethat we have you here today.

You've been a staunchsupporter of President Trump.

I'm sure you were disappointedby the election results.

Regardless, there's aright and a wrong way

to err your grievances, is there not?

- There absolutely is, and look,

I have been probably the strongest

pastoral supporter ofPresident Trump there's been,

and I continue to support him,

but as a representative forJesus Christ in this society,

all of us who are Christians

have to deal with reality, not fantasy.

You know 1 Chronicles 12:32 talks about

the men of Issachar, who were people who

understood their times, andknew what Israel should do.

If we are going to beeffective in this world

as Christ representatives,

we've gotta understand what'sgoing on in our culture,

and the truth is, Joe Biden

is going to be the next President.

He's going to beinaugurated on January 20th,

and we as a church needto prepare for that

so that we can be aneffective Christian witness

during that period of time.

- Pastor, let's dial back a bit.

You know, you, as we just talked about,

you're a Trump supporter.

There's Trump supportersout on Capitol Hill,

just right up the road from here.

How did we get to this point?

Some of the things that we've seen today,

I can imagine, like me, youthought you'd never see.

- Yeah, well look, our country is divided,

and I happen to believe Donald Trump

is not responsible forthe division in America.

He has simply exposed thedivision that's in America.

I think he refused toback down and roll over

like other conservatives did,

and when he stood up and pushed back,

I think it gave conservatives the backbone

to do that as well,and that's why you have

such friction in our country right now.

Neither side is willing to back down.

There's nothing wrong and everything right

with standing up for your beliefs,

especially when they're biblical beliefs.

But I think there's a linethat we dare not cross,

and I think it got crossedthis afternoon in the Capitol.

- Pastor, last question foryou, and it's a two parter.

How should Christiansbe praying specifically

in this moment, and then also,

what's the prayer that you're praying?

- Well, I wrote a book,you were nice enough

to talk about it with me a few months ago,

called Praying For America,and I suggest 40 prayers

for America for differentareas of America's life.

But I think the primary prayerfor Christians ought to be

that Christ would beglorified through all of this.

The light shinesbrightest in the darkness,

and I believe we're gonnahave a rough four years.

I think Christian libertyis going to be assaulted.

I think values are gonna be perpetrated

that are against the Bible,

but this isn't a time todespair as Christians.

This is a time for us to realize

we have a marvelous opportunity

to point people to Jesus Christ.

- Pastor Robert Jeffressof First Baptist Dallas,

thank you so much for your time

and your words of encouragement today.

- Thank you for having me.