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Christian World News - Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict - October 16, 2020

Turkey is playing a key role in a fight that’s targeting the world’s oldest Christian nation. Read Transcript


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- [George] This weekon Christian World news

assault on Armenia, the world'soldest Christian nation.

One of them at least is under attack.

What role is Turkey playing?

And could this conflictgrow into a regional war?

- [Wendy] Plus Christians and COVID-19

as the virus infects anumber of Christian leaders

one of them calls on the church

to respond in faith, not fear.

- And on a mission to save lives.

This woman volunteer to takepart in a COVID vaccine trial.

She says a divine convictioninspired her to act.

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Hello, everyone, welcometo this week's edition

of Christian worldnews, I'm George Thomas.

- And I'm Wendy Griffith.

Well, it's a little known conflict

that could have big time consequences.

Armenia and Azerbaijan arefighting over a small territory

and it could turn into all out war George.

- Yeah, guess what?

The Slavic nation of Turkeyis fueling the fire as well.

And tens of thousands

of Christians are caughtin the crosshairs.

Recently I spoke withthe president of Armenia

about the dangers, take a look.

The decades old conflict between Armenia

and Azerbaijan over the contested region

of Nagorno-Karabakh isthreatening to erupt

into a wider conflict,including Russia, Turkey

and radical Islamic jihadist.

Turkey is reportedly recruiting hundreds

of Syrian mercenaries

to join as a army in thefight against Armenia.

Mr. President, can youconfirm these reports

and what are the implicationsof their involvement?

- Well, first of all, I can confirm

it's not only confirmation from my side,

international organizations

and even intelligence departments

of different States have confirmed that.

- [George] In an exclusiveinterview with CBN news,

Armenia's president Armen Sarkissian

accused Turkey and itsleader Recep Tayyip Erdogan

of being a bully andmaking the crisis worse.

Turkey has deployed drones

and reportedly sold more than $123 million

worth of military hardwareto support Azerbaijan.

What are the consequences Mr. President

of not stopping Turkey'sinvolvement in this conflict?

- Well, not stopping theTurkey in this conflict

you'll get another Syria,but 10 times bigger.

- President Sarkissian points to Turkey's

ongoing military involvements in Syria,

Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan,

as more proof of Erdoganexpansionist ambition.

- Wherever they go alone

or bringing Islamic militants with them.

Basically they are thereand they are destroying

not only people's lives,but also ancient languages.

As I said, like inSyria they're destroying

ancient Christian culture.

- [George] On October 7th daysafter the conflict erupted

Azerbaijan backed by Turkey

shard this historic cathedralwhere many Armenian families

had sought refuge.

Three weeks into theconflict scores our families

continued to pray and find refuge

in the partially destroyed church.

- [Translator] God's housewas transformed into ruins.

They are capable of everythingbut God will punish them.

- [George] More than 500 people have died

and tens of thousandsof civilians displaced

by the fighting sandwichedbetween Armenia and Azerbaijan.

Nagorno-Karabakh ethnicArmenian population

has long wanted to be independentto unite with Armenia.

After numerous flare ups over the region.

This latest is the worst in decades.

Russia which backs Armenia,but has ties with Azerbaijan,

try to broker a cease firelast week that failed,

as fighting intensifies experts worry

Russia could be draggedfurther into the conflict.

Russia's foreign ministrymaking a fresh appeal

for peace late Wednesday.

- [Translator] So westand on our position.

That peaceful solution ofthe conflict is possible.

Moreover, it's the only way

to ensure sustainablesolution of this problem.

- [George] Armenia is one

of the world's oldest Christian nations.

The majority of thoseliving in the dispute

Nagorno-Karabakh region,are also Christian.

That includes Rita Grigorian who along

with several others hassheltered in the basement

of this apartment buildingssince fighting started.

Grigorian lost her husband

during the war withAzerbaijan in the 1990s,

her son-in-law and grandsonare now on the front lines.

- [Narrator] My grandson turned 20

and then the war started.

How can we be happy?

Where should we run ifmy relatives are here?

- [George] PresentsSarkissian tells CBN news

that Armenia struggledagainst what his government

has called a TurkishAzerbaijani terrorist Alliance

is similar to that ofa story in the Bible.

- So this pray bravepeople are like the story

of the David and the Goliath.

They are facing an enormous enemy

that wants to destroya whole civilization,

a culture, religion, and people.

- Joining us now is CBN middle East

correspondent Chris Mitchell.

Chris we've seen Turkeygo on the offensive

in Northern Syria.

What do you think their agenda is?

- Well, Wendy I think their agenda

is sort of a greater Turkey.

This Neo Erdogan empire,where a president Erdogan

sees himself as a Salteror as the new Kayla.

We've seen that in many places

particularly we started in2018, in a place called Afrin.

This is a Northwest in Syria.

And actually he used sort of

Islamic shock troops to go in there

ahead of the Turkish army.

And that sort of is a modus operandi,

right now he did that in Afrin.

And he's also doing that apparently

right there in this conflictwith Armenia and Azerbaijan.

So Afrin was really sort of one

of the first things he's done

in the last few years as he expanded.

We've seen that in Libya.

We've seen it in Northeast Syria.

Now we're seeing it inArmenia and Azerbaijan

and all signed I thinkWendy of his attempts

to just expand Turkey as it is today.

- Chris so many Christians in these areas.

We've seen these beautifulchurches now in rebel,

what happens to the Christians

in these areas that Turkey controls?

- Well, they leave Wendythat simple is that,

they flee for their lives literally.

And if they stay, they'reputting their lives at risk

we saw that in Afrin.

We also saw that remarkablyin October of last year

just about a year ago, whenTurkey invaded Northeast Syria.

Many of those Christians,

many of those areas right along the border

between Syria and Turkey,where Christian villages,

many of them literallyfled for their lives.

And we see this anti-Christian sentiment

in Turkey in many ways, wesee it when pastor Brunson

notably a few years ago was in prison,

thankfully he was released.

But we also see that many missionaries

in Turkey are becoming persona non grata

and having to leave the country.

We're seeing it symbolicallywhen they, when he turned

Hagia Sophia into a mosque,

and all these areas theexpansionist ideas of Voltaire

and Wendy we've also seenit here in Jerusalem.

He says that Jerusalem is theirs.

So that gives you an ideaof how far he wants to go.

- Wow, I had not heard that.

Well, there's talk ofthis war, expanding Chris.

Some say it could even bepart of biblical prophecy.

Tell us about this.

- Well, a lot of people,when they think of Turkey

they look at a Ezekiel 38, 39,

and they talk about thewar of Gog and Magog,

and we see a couple ofthings happening dynamically

and perhaps propheticallyhere in the Middle East.

The first thing is the Abraham Accords.

This idea that Israel is making peace

with many of its Sunni Arab nations,

that seems to fit the biblical

blueprint there in Ezekiel 38 39,

where many of these nationsare at peace with Israel.

And on the other hand, you seethis Confederation of nations

like Turkey and possibly Iran,

which is a modern day Persia,aligning against Israel.

So it seems like the chess pieces.

If you're looking at things

from a biblical propheticview, might be aligning.

- Chris Mitchell in Jerusalem.

Great to see you, Chris.

God bless you, yhank you so much.

- Thanks Wendy.

- George.

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- President Trump talkedabout his recovery

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a fight against the coronavirus.

For others, the battle is personal.

- Well, I did contractcoronavirus back in July.

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tells CBS news, the virus hithis entire family last summer.

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at the time, working withthe coronavirus patients.

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We have to stand with common sense,

taking the necessary precautions.

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Christian leaders urge fellow believers

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for 2000 years?

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against the first amendment, right?

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Also affecting SanAntonio pastor John Hagy

who didn't attend the Rose garden event

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John Jessup, CBN news.

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one news anchor stepsoutside her comfort zone

to fight the virus.

- Down Baker became the firstvolunteer to participate

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CBNs Eric Phillips spoke to her

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- Good evening and thanks somuch for joining us tonight.

[Eric] Down Baker is a long time anchor

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- According to thenational weather service.

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Baker made news of herown this past summer.

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The first one back in July,which led to some soreness

in her arm and anotherunexpected, but positive reaction.

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So about six weeks, I wasjust cleaning my house

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It hurt even deeper.

Of course, there's no cure for COVID-19

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- [Eric] Wild Baker hasgotten a lot of support

for her efforts.

She has also faced criticismfor putting her health

at risk and even trusting the process.

Especially as an African-American,

some have brought up theTuskegee syphilis experiment,

a 40 year government study

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I know the history.

I know about the Tuskegee experiment

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they wouldn't even give them the cure.

I would not have just goneto sign up to do this.

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or it's my job to tryto change perceptions

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But I do know that forus to get out of this

at least a large percentage

of us are gonna need to get the vaccine.

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we're still gonna be stuck

in these masks in order to be saved.

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are among those highest at risk,

Baker says, "The trust and her doctor

"paired with the divine conviction,

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- This girl is on a missionto try to save lives.

I really am just honestlypraying for the whole world.

- I should point outthat Baker does not know

whether she received the vaccine

or a placebo over the next two years,

she will have seven doctor's appointments

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and document the status of her health.

In Washington, Eric Phillips, CBN news.

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After the historic treatybetween the United Arab Emirates,

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- Welcome to Jerusalem forthis insight Israel report

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and the Middle East.

Israel second wave of the coronavirus

seems to be slowing down,after four weeks of lockdown.

The country's infection ratehas dropped dramatically,

from 9,000 new cases perday to about 2000 cases.

The government willbegin easing restrictions

but leaders say it will likely take months

before life is back to normal.

Meanwhile, the Israelimilitary is helping the

nation's overloaded healthcare system

and recently converted ahospital parking garage

in Northern Israel, into afirst of its kind COVID ward.

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- [Translator] Thepurpose of the operation

is to assist the state of Israel

in dealing with the coronavirus.

We are actually generatingmore hospital beds.

- More than 299,000 people

have been infected in Israel.

And over 2000 have died.

Israel recently signedhistoric diplomatic deals

with United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

Now many are wondering if Saudi Arabia

could be the next tojoin the Abraham Accords.

US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo,

met with his Saudi counterpart

and urge the kingdom to normalize ties

with Israel this week.

- We of Saudi Arabia consider normalizing

its relationships as well.

And we wanna thank them forthe assistance they've had

in the success of theAbraham Accords, so far.

- [Emily] The Saudi kingdomhas publicly expressed

frustration with the Palestinian leaders

and recently opened theirairspace for Israeli airliners.

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towards a dramaticdevelopment, a normalization

a full peace treaty between

the kingdom of Saudi Arabiaand the state of Israel.

I know that for many

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I think that is absolutelygoing to happen.

- Experts say it may take some time

for the kingdom to warmup to full normalization.

And as the birthplace of Islam

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