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700 Club Interactive - October 15, 2020

Jeremy suffered PTSD stemming from an abusive childhood and the Iraq war. It wasn't until he fully surrendered to God that he found the peace he needed. Read Transcript


- I felt, honestly, likeI was a casualty of war,

even though I didn't die.

- [Gordon] An Iraqi war soldier.

- I had to accept death.

- [Gordon] whose battlecontinued back home.

- I was still in survival mode.

- [Gordon] How he won his final fight.

- I felt like I was just given the answer

to all of life's problems.

- Plus, Efrem Graham ishere from Studio Five

to share the latest in entertainment news.

All on 700 Club Interactive.

Welcome to the show.

The world of entertainment changes often,

so we're here to keep you updated

with all the latest.

- That's right, and here's Efrem Graham,

with this week's Top Fivestories from Studio Five.

(swooshing)

- [Efrem] At Number Five.

- [Announcer] This historic2020 NBA Championship belongs

to the Los Angeles Lakers!

- [Efrem] LeBron Jamesand the Lakers back on top

of the NBA world.

- I think, personally,thinking I have something

to prove fuels me.

- [Efrem] That fuel bringsthe Lakers their 17th trophy.

The same year we lost famedformer player, Kobe Bryant,

in a helicopter crash.

Now lighting up landmarks,like LA City Hall,

the Los Angeles International Airport,

and the castle here atOrlando's Walt Disney World,

in the team's primarycolors, purple and gold.

Still, COVID-19 madethis win a difficult one.

- I think you wouldn't behuman if you didn't have

ups and downs in the Bubble.

At times I was questioningmyself, should I be here?

Is it worth sacrificing my family?

So many things.

I've never been withoutmy family this long.

(swooshing)

- [Efrem] At Number Four.

- Who would make a cartoon about that?

I mean, metaphysics?

We're calling it "Soul".

(audience laughing)

- [Efrem] And there's a big change

for this highly anticipatedDisney Pixar film.

(upbeat music)

- [Joe] We only have ashort time on this planet.

- [Announcer] Another bigmovie skipping theaters

for streaming, Disney Pixar's "Soul"

will debut on the streamingservice Disney Plus.

It was scheduled to hittheaters November 20th.

"Soul" stars the voices ofJamie Foxx, Tina Fey, and more.

It'll now premiere Christmas Day.

(swooshing)

- For Number Three,

(swooshing)

we head to Chicago's Midway Airport.

♪ Amazing grace ♪

♪ How sweet the sound ♪

As this spontaneous moment unfolds

with passengers waiting for their flight.

The powerful moment ofpreaching and praise was caught

on a short video titled "This is America",

and it's received a halfmillion views so far online.

♪ I once was blind ♪

♪ but now I see ♪

(hooting)

(swooshing)

- [Efrem] At Number Two.

- We are drowning in thislast part of the scene.

- [Efrem] First new music.

♪ Okay, I was told a long time ago ♪

♪ to let the drama go ♪

♪ And go and find a goal ♪

- From hip hop artist, Lecrae.

Your book was one of those that,

when I closed the last chapter,

I was like wanting more and I understand

you're going to deliver.

And now the wait is over.

His new book, "I Am Restored,How I Lost My Religion

"But Found My Faith", is now available.

- I definitely felt like there was some

lessons that I've learnedand some things that people

need to process.

And so, I wanna take peoplethrough a healing journey,

healing from, you know,relational battles,

political battles, racialbattles, economic battles.

How do you heal fromthese types of things?

And what does that look like for me?

The beautiful thing about oxygen,is when you breathe it in,

it restores you.

And restoration is thekey essential for life.

(swooshing)

- [Efrem] At Number One

♪ Go up, up, up ♪

That song, this book, andthe incredible life and death

of 17-year-old, Zach Sobiech,inspires a poignant film.

- Here's the thing.

I like you, I know yourdiagnosis complicates things,

but I don't care.

Do you like me?

- Yes, I do.

- Even though I don't have cancer?

- Make your move, Romeo!

- "Five Feet Apart", now "Clouds".

What is it about this story that

inspired you to wanna do it?

- Well, actually I was supposedto make this story first,

believe it or not.

And while there's a lotthat I don't know at my age,

what I do know is this,we all have limited time.

- Laura, talk about Zach's purpose

and your family's purpose now.

'Cause I'm sure going throughit, it was extremely painful,

as we see play out, to suffer the loss.

You wanna hold onto him andyou don't want him to go.

But his life seems evenbigger now than it was then.

- There's definitely thelesson of really letting go

and letting God take control of the story,

and trusting that.

- "Clouds" begins streamingthis week to Disney Plus.

- What you're facing is scary,

but you get to decidewhat matters most now.

- Well, Efrem's with us.- Yay!

- Welcome back to the show.

- Thank you.

- Let's lead off with thatgreat video from an airport.

- Oh my gosh.

- Oh wow.

- So amazing.

I remember when I firstsaw that on Instagram,

I got tears in my eyes becauseit was just so beautiful,

like so beautiful.

Tell us what you know about it.

- Yeah, I saw it earlyon and didn't include it

'cause I did not knowthat it would be seen by

more than a half million people now.

There's a pastor out of Louisiana.

His name is Troy Thomas,and he was speaking

to those, largely men,waiting for a plane,

encouraging them and they sang"This Little Light of Mine",

which don't see, but we do see them sing

"Amazing Grace" together.

And it is simply amazing.

More than a half million views now,

and beautiful to seethat spontaneous moment

of worship break out at the airport.

- Yay!

- Yeah, so good.

- Maybe I need to start going to airports

(laughing)

and singing, "JesusLoves Me, This I Know".

- Come on, yes Gordon!

- You don't wanna hear me sing.

- That would go viral (laughs).

- No, it would not.

It would go straight to thenext thing, I gotta swipe left.

All right, let's talk about the NBA.

And it was kind of curiousto accidentally discover

that the finals were on.

And it's the lowest viewedNBA final in history.

What do you chalk that up to?

Is that COVID?

What is that?

- I say certainly, largely COVID.

You don't have people who can actually be

at the game physically.

So much going on in our world that many,

you know, not paying attention.

But I wanna say just propsto those men who sacrificed

all they did sacrifice in orderfor those games to happen.

I mean, they lived in a bubble in Orlando,

so that we could end up seeingthese two teams play it out.

And LeBron James, a momentthat's not shared there,

but a beautiful moment, heFace Times his mom, who was not

able to be there to watchhim win this championship.

But he Face Times herand says, "You know, mom,

"looking back on it, thethings that we went through

"in my childhood, the sacrificeI made here still doesn't

"compare to what you've done."

"I'm here because of you."

"Thank you."

He said, "God is good, God is great,

"and I could not havedone this without you."

- Wow.Amen!

- Amen!

- Yeah.

- I say the same thing to my mom (laughs).

- Seriously, yeah.

(laughing)

- She saw me through a whole lot.

- Yes.

- Thanks to the prayers of our moms.

- Absolutely.

- All right, well, wegotta talk about Lecrae.

As you know, I love Lecrae andI really love his new album

that just came out, and he's got a book,

and I'm so jealous you interviewed him.

- Yes--- Tell us more.

- I've been blessed to interviewhim about this book now

twice and working on a third,

now that I've finished the book (laughs).

But he is amazing.

He talks about the dichotomyof what was going on

in his life as his career is taking off

and he's doing extremely well.

He was also battling depression at home,

sharing things that we didn't know.

I mean, he literally onthe verge of breaking up

with his wife becausehe's in such a depression.

Many in the Christiancommunity canceling him,

because he used his platform to speak out

against race some years ago.

Discovering that, you know,the dad who he never met,

while he's shooting a video in California,

he actually then leaves andgoes and meets this father.

So much going on in hislife, and he's sharing this.

But the bottom line of reasonhe's telling this story

is restoration.

His project, his music project,is called "Restoration".

His book is essentiallynamed "Restoration",

because he is speaking tothe ability for all of us

to be restored.

- Yeah, well, why now?

Why is he just now comingout and just being honest

about his depression and stuff?

- I will say this, forLecrae, when you follow him,

Lecrae is very meticulous aboutall the work that he does.

Even when things are completed,he is constantly working,

perfecting, trying to get it right.

Even as far as the music goes.

So it took him time, and thenonce everything was completed

now he's had a scheduleof what comes out next.

So we've got a book, we gota documentary, we got music.

And we also now have somefilm projects in the works

that'll be coming out next.

So he's very strategic that way,

in terms of what he what hereleases and how that comes out.

- Yeah, that's good.

- Let me do a plug for Ashley.

She's working on a whole seriesof how people come to faith.

- Yup.

- So for the book title--

- Restored.

- Makes it just tailor-made for that.

So the question for you, Efrem,you've got the interview,

and I've gotta ask you,can you hook a sister up?

- Can you hook a sister up?

- (laughs) I will work on that for you.

- Can you get her that interview?

- I think I can get you that.

- Thank you!

Yes, Efrem, well I alsohave to ask you Efrem,

what is your favoritesong on the new album?

Do you have a favorite?

- "Wheels Up"

- "Wheels up"?

- Yes (laughs).

- Okay, I think I like that one too.

- "Wheels Up", and there'sa music video for that

out right now, but yeah,"Wheels Up" is my favorite

at this moment.

- Is that just 'causeyou wanna travel again?

- Well, I'd like too, please (laughing)!

- Don't please me, I gotnothin' to do with the virus.

(laughing)

I didn't start it.

I'm just trying to manageour way through it.

- Yes.

- Zoom is the way to go.

- It is for now.

- All right, well, for all thelatest in entertainment news

and updates on whether or notAshley gets the interview,

check out Efrem's weekly show.

It's called Studio Five.

You can watch it on the CBN News Channel

or online at CBNnews.com/studio5,

and Efrem, we'll see you again next week.

- See you next week.

- All right guys, well coming up,

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I was starving and said,"I need help, please."

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- So where does she find help?

Find out right after this.

(dramatic music)

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Gordon?

- Well, still ahead, hesurvived Afghanistan.

So why did this vet sayhe's a casualty of war?

And how did a horse helphim reclaim his life?

Stay tuned for the answers.

(upbeat music)

As a soldier serving in Iraq,Jeremy Harrell had a meltdown

right in the middle of the desert.

Five years later, when hewas discharged from the Army,

he had burned through three marriages,

in total survival mode.

He struggled every day toget through the next hour

without killing himself.

And even though he didn't die,

Jeremy considered himselfa casualty of war.

- I remember being 21 yearsold when I got to Iraq

and just, you know, hopingand praying every day

that I'd see 22.

- [Narrator] Army specialist,Jeremy Harrell was deployed

to the front lines when theIraq war broke out in 2003.

The miserable conditionsand constant danger

quickly took its toll.

- I had to get to a placewhere I had to accept death,

just in case it happened,

so that I could quit worrying about it.

- [Narrator] Jeremy expectedthe Army to be his ticket

out of a childhood of poverty and abuse.

But the realities ofwar forced that trauma

back to the surface.

- My childhood was almostlike a combat zone,

'cause I'm feeling someof these same emotions.

I often felt like a burden.

There was feelings of beingunloved in that as well,

because you know, when youfeel like you're a burden,

you don't feel love.

- [Narrator] So fresh out of high school,

Jeremy escaped to the Army.

In boot camp he had structure, stability,

and three meals a day.

- The feelings that itbrought to me was the feeling

of belonging, the feeling of purpose.

I felt important for thefirst time in my life.

I felt needed.

- [Narrator] While there, Jeremyalso accepted Jesus Christ

into his heart.

Throughout boot camp,he drew closer to God.

But after he deployed toIraq, he became overwhelmed

by the brutality and ugliness of war.

(gentle music)

- I had a moment out inthe middle of the desert

that I'm not very proud of,but I remember screaming

at the top of my lungs, reallycursing God, and saying,

"If you're so powerful, ifyou really are sovereign

"over everything, then why this?"

- [Narrator] Doubtscontinued to plague him

over his 15 month tour.

When he finally returned home,

Jeremy didn't recognize himself.

- I just noticed I was different.

I noticed that I'd become more of a person

who liked to isolate.

I come home with residualanger and I really struggled

to adapt back to life.

I wasn't as compassionate as I used to be.

I wasn't as caring or nurturing.

I had this numbness about me

where I didn't care what happened.

- [Narrator] Three short-livedmarriages didn't help.

And when he was dischargedfrom the Army in 2008,

Jeremy felt completely worthless.

- I felt like I lost my identity.

I truly couldn't stand who Iwas at that point in my life.

I was still in survival mode.

I was still just trying tomake it to the next hour.

Not even considering thefuture, not even considering

my kids or my family, butjust what can I do to get

through this next hour sothat I don't do something

to myself that is harmful.

- [Narrator] Jeremy wasdiagnosed with Dual Trauma PTSD,

stemming from hischildhood and the Iraq war.

- I do remember leaving the hospital

and feeling very, like a broken person.

I wasn't able to do simple things like,

there was days I didn'twanna get out of bed.

- [Narrator] He triedmedication and therapy,

but nothing helped himovercome his depression

and suicidal thoughts.

- I felt honestly likeI was a casualty of war,

even though I didn't die.

But then I started toagain get back into that

victim mentality and that anger of,

"God, why, like, why doI have to have this now?"

"Didn't I suffer enough?"

"Didn't I suffer enough as a child?"

"Didn't I suffer enough in combat?"

"Why now do I have to continue to suffer?"

(dramatic music)

- [Narrator] In 2017, Jeremyattended an Equine Therapy Camp

for PTSD in upstate New York.

On site he found a chapel,and after a few days,

felt compelled to go inside.

- I went in and startedto pray my same, you know,

what I consider a genericprayer, but then it changed.

Something changed in my heart.

I just remember the prayergoing to, "I submit to you."

"God, I submit to you, I deny myself."

"I want you to use me in your kingdom."

Like, "I'm ready, Ineed this, I want this."

"I love you."

"I want you to intervene."

"I want you to fill me fromhead to toe with your Spirit."

I felt the incredible senseof peace and love of God.

And I felt like I wasjust given the answer

to all of life's problems.

- [Narrator] Jeremy also sayshe no longer felt the effects

of his PTSD.

- He's freed me from that pain.

He's freed me from that feeling

of helplessness and hopelessness.

And so the PTSD is there.

Things still happen.

I don't foresee that ever going away,

but He's allowed me tomanage that in a way

that I couldn't on my own.

- [Narrator] A couple years later,

Jeremy opened his ownequine therapy facility

to share the love of Jesuswith fellow soldiers.

- I believe 100% it wasthat prayer that I prayed

in New York, when Iintentionally and truly meant

what I said, when I said, "Jesus, use me."

- [Narrator] TodayJeremy is happily married

and loves to share thejoy and peace that comes

from fully surrendering to God.

- He loves you.

He wants to be in your life.

He wants total controlbecause He wants you

to get the most out of your life.

Nothing will compare to thejoy that God puts in our bodies

and in our hearts when wewanna live the way that He

intends for us to live.

- Jeremy's story, I thinkit's a universal one.

You know, we can look atcertain points in trauma

and say, "Well what he wentthrough in Iraq was horrible,

"so no wonder that happened to him."

But I think everyone in life has trauma.

Every one of us has pain.

Every one of us wonders,where was God in that,

and why did that happen to me?

And then we start to wonder,was I somehow at fault?

And these thoughts tend to consume us.

Then what they do is theylead to feelings of anxiety.

They lead to a trauma response,

where you literally start to lose control

of what you're thinkingand what you're feeling.

For Jeremy it became overwhelming.

And he got to the pointwhere it was hour by hour.

How do I not kill myself?

It came to destroyed marriages.

It came to destroyed relationships,

because how do you go on?

How do you live?

And for Jeremy, what did he do?

Well, he found a way out and that way out,

is a person named Jesus Christ

who came.

He left heaven.

He left it so that you and Icould be reconciled to God.

And He did it willingly.

And He came down and He lived on earth.

He was born in a stable.

He lived a sinless life.

He died on the cross.

His blood was shed for you.

He didn't stop there.

He rose again from the grave.

And He's waiting for youto say the same thing

that Jeremy said.

I submit to you.

I want you

to intervene in my life.

And when you do that, when you're all in,

He comes to you

and He heals.

You won't forget the trauma.

That's not gonna happen, butyou'll have a new perspective.

You'll have a new beginning.

You'll have a new heart,a new mind, a new spirit.

That's what it means to be born again.

For Jeremy, that new heart,that new mind, that new spirit

gives him the strength now to go forward,

and to go forward withlove and acceptance,

realizing he's no longer orphaned.

He's no longer alone.

But God is right there with him.

And Jesus will never leave or forsake him.

If you wanna pray that same prayer.

If you wanna go all in with God,

I submit to you, call us.

1-800-700-7000.

Just tell the person on the other end,

I wanna meet Jesus AndI wanna meet Him today.

Here's a word from Psalms.

"The Lord bestows favor and honor."

"No good thing does He withhold

"from those who walk uprightly."

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