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Studio 5: All Saints - July 22, 2020

John Corbett, Gregory Alan Williams and Chonda Pierce take us inside their film All Saints. We also sit down with the man whose life inspired the film, Pastor Michael Spurlock. And Rebecca St. James has her first studio project in 9 years. Read Transcript


- "Studio 5" is now seconds away.

Actors John Corbittand Greg Alan Williams,

along with comedienne Chonda Pierce,

are bringing a powerfultrue story to film.

We're taking a deepdive into "All Saints."

Let's get started.

(upbeat music)

And welcome to the show.

This is a special edition of "Studio 5,"

we've taken to the outdoorsbecause much of this show

focuses on how a Tennessee farm helped

to save the life of an entire church.

But before we get to that, let's begin

this week's countdown ofwhat's making headlines

in the world of uplifting entertainment.

(graphic whooshes)At number five.

- Get yourselves readyfor a turbulent election.

(drum line pounds)(audience cheers)

- [Efrem] Just in timefor election season,

a new documentary dives into

a Texas-sized look at democracy.

Renee, take me to thatexperience of "Boys State."

I mean, I see that the issueof race certainly comes up.

What do you recall most about doing this?

It's a real-life cast of young men

in the award-winning film "Boys State,"

coming to Apple TV in August.

- [Actor] As to the politicalviews voiced in my speech,

sometimes you gotta say what you gotta say

in attempts to win.

- Finn, where did your passion

for politics get started?

These young men offeranswers and inspiration.

- I think he's a fantastic politician,

but I don't think a fantastic politician

is a compliment either.

- [Efrem] At number four.

- The answer is Alex Trebek.

- [Efrem] It's a happy 80th birthday.

- They're dealing withfamous phrases and this clue.

- [Efrem] To "Jeopardy"host Alex Trebek, who's

also scoring endless headlines this week

for the release of his new memoir,

written while at home in social isolation.

- I'd also like to take this opportunity

to give you a quick health update.

I'm doing well, I've beencontinuing my treatment,

and it is paying off,

though it does fatigue me a great deal.

My numbers are good, I'm feeling great.

- [Efrem] Alex Trebek, "TheAnswer Is" is available now.

- The correct question, ofcourse, who is that handsome

man I'm looking at right now?

- And that begins this week's countdown.

We'll pick things back up at number three

in just a little bit.

As you can see, we'vestepped outside this week

because the outdoors plays avital role in today's story.

It is the story of Michael Spurlock.

He's a salesman turnedpastor, whose first job

is to essentially shutdown a struggling church.

Let's take a look at the film

before we sit down with Michael Spurlock.

(gentle guitar music)

- Dear friends in Christ, theReverend Michael Spurlock.

- Your first job as pastoris to shut down a church.

- That's what it became.

- What are you thinkingwhen you take that job?

- We didn't meet before, I'm Michael.

- You're gonna sell the church, aint ya'?

- The fact is, we had 12people in that church today.

- Jesus had 12 people, hedone all right, didn't he?

- [Michael] It's hurtingand folks were discouraged

and deflated, hurt, not quiteknowing how to move forward.

- Michael, you're not here to perform CPR.

- If passing out a fewfliers helps my congregation

feel they can let theirchurch go, I'm gonna do it.

- If All Saints had afuture, we didn't see

how it was going to be encumbered

with a building thathad an $850,000 mortgage

and a $5500 a month mortgage payment.

- We're closing the church, we're broke.

- What is broke?

- Ye Win and a group ofrefugees from Burma showed up

and it was really the 11th hour.

When we thought we hadan offer on the church

and we're going to have to accept it,

that I took a walk out onthe fields behind the church

and God said, "Michael,I have given you farmland

"and I have sent 65 expert farmers

"from the other side of the world.

"You're supposed to start a farm here."

- We start a farm, we work together,

we save the church.

- [Man] Amen.

- How you gonna plow?

- It's funny you should mention that.

- What do you do with that mandate

from God when you hear it?

- I ran up the hill tomy office and I called

my Senior Warden, who'sthe senior lay leader

of the parish, who's aretired Methodist minister.

And I said, "He'll bring me to my senses."

So I called him and I said,"Michael, I've just heard God

"tell me we're supposedto start a farm here."

And he says, "Great, call the Bishop."

- (laughing) Wow, so he didn'tbring you to your senses.

- He didn't bring me to my senses.

- You're blowing your boss' chance

at a big sale here, Preacher.

- You risked our careers on this.

- You swore an oath as aminister to God, not to me,

to obey, even when you disagree.

- Swore an oath as a Christian,

to care for the least of these.

- When Ye Win and refugees show up

at the church seeking shelter and help,

and you're in the processof shutting down the church,

what was it that made youopen the door and do this?

- I don't see how we couldhonestly claim the title

of Christian and doneanything differently.

What, send them away?

Tell them no?

It just didn't...

My faith in Jesus, my loveof Jesus, just tells me

there's only one answer here.

- I thought I knew the will of God.

Is it his voice I heard, or was it mine?

We're back where we started.

- I wanna show you something.

We are not where we started.

We are somewhere completely new.

(uplifting music)

- And here we sit, this church,its doors are still open.

(laughing) There's still a farm out there.

- There's still a small farm, still.

- And there's a movie about this story.

- There's a movie about this story.

I should also say it's debt free.

- Aha, awesome!

- And that provides thecommunity that's still here

freedom from at least that burden too.

- Absolutely.

- It's strange and it's wonderful.

And because it's strange and wonderful,

it seems to fit perfectly with this place

'cause this is a strangeand wonderful place.

- Pastor Michael Spurlockleft All Saints Church

back in 2010, but he is still in ministry

and there's so much moreto this story, coming up.

Coming up.

- What's up y'all?

Emmanuel Acho here and I have

some very exciting news to share.

- [Efrem] This former NFLlinebacker has a new partner

in his mission to haveuncomfortable conversations.

We'll break the news next.

(light piano music)

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"life in your body, mind, and spirit,

"life in your everyday."

At CBN.com, we're takingwhat Jesus said seriously.

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- [Efrem] At number three.

- Welcome to another episode

of "Uncomfortable Conversationswith a Black Man."

- [Efrem] Former NFLlinebacker and ESPN analyst,

Emmanuel Acho, has some big news

for his already popular social media show.

- "Uncomfortable Conversationswith a Black Man"

is becoming a book.

I firmly believe if youwanna go fast, you go alone.

But if you wanna go far, you go together.

So I'm privileged to havea partner and supporter

to go on this journey with me.

- Hey, Emmanuel.

Hi, everybody.

Yes that's me, partner and supporter

and publisher now of your soon-to-be book

"Uncomfortable Conversationswith a Black Man."

- [Efrem] "UncomfortableConversations with a Black Man"

the book is scheduled tobe released November 10th.

- I consider it a privilegeto be able to help you

keep doing the good work that you have,

obviously, been called to do.

- [Efrem] At number two.

- It's what they don'tsay, which is plenty.

- [Efrem] Actor and conservative Christian

Antonio Sabato, Jr. isstepping behind the camera

starting his own production company.

The actor tweeting, "Weare putting together a plan

"to create a conservative movie studio

"for all patriots to do projects

"that Hollywood would never do.

"No more blacklistingand no more injustice

"from the socialist's elites."

- We need more faith-based everything.

I think we need to talk about the word

and we need to talk aboutspiritual awakenings.

We need to talk about positive stuff

and I think we don't have enough of it.

- And that leaves us withonly one more headline

in this week's countdown.

We'll get to number onein just a little bit.

Right now we return to the story

of All Saints and Pastor Michael Spurlock.

John Corbitt plays that role in the film.

Let's take a look at a scene

before we begin ourconversation with John Corbitt.

(gentle music)

- Woo!

- I'm startin' a new memory book. (laughs)

- Hey, look at this readingfor tomorrow's service.

- (gasps) Did you choose this, Michael?

- Nope, it's on the schedule

for every Episcopal church in the world.

- The kingdom of God is as though a farmer

has scattered seeds onthe ground. (chuckles)

The seeds sprout, but thefarmer doesn't know how.

First the stalk, thenthe head, then the grain.

- Consider the mustard seed,the smallest of all seeds,

yet it grows such big branches

that the birds perch in its shade.

- So I imagine thatyou meet Father Michael

either during the processof filming or before.

When do you two meet?

- We met during, he came with his family.

We were shooting one night.

We were actually shootinga scene that's pivotal

in the movie where the Lord speaks to me.

And he had been here allday meeting some press,

we had a press day, butI was filming all day,

so I would see him off in the distance

and start to get nervous thatI was meeting this fellow,

which usually doesn't happen,

that you're meeting somebody in real life.

And I'd start to haveanxiety and, you know,

at one point he came kinda close to me

and I could've gone out of my way to say,

"Hi, I'm John, I'm playing you."

But I found something else to do

because I wasn't ready.

(Efrem chuckling)

And then finally I turned around

and there he was and we were introduced

and it couldn't have been more beautiful.

We had a small amount of time together,

but it was really qualitytime and he's just great.

- You saw him, you readthe script, you like it.

What was it about his life that you felt

you wanted to project on the screen,

that you wanted to deliverto make sure people felt?

- We have a kind ofsimilar outlook on life,

which is I'm now at thisstage where I'm kinda bored

with what I've been doing for 30 years.

I realize I don't, how manysummers do I have left?

And a lot of my time is spent thinking,

"What do I really want todo with those summers?"

Is it to go to another movie set

and say someone else's lines

and wear someone else'sclothes for six weeks,

get the paycheck, and then go home

and wait for the phoneto ring to do it again?

Or do I wanna really shakethings up and sell the house

and move somewhere and kinda start over?

Part of the dream is to live

in a different statein America for one year

for the next 20 yearsand have that experience.

I've lived in one placefor the last 25 years.

That's what he did.

He, midstream, just jumped out of the boat

and said, "You know,I'm done with this life.

"Now I want to have a liveof service in the church,"

and I just really admirethat, that he did that.

- What's your hope for this movie?

What do you want peopleto get or walk away?

Do you have a hope for it?

- Well, I want them to leave their money.

That's what I want because,

it sounds like I'm beingfunny but here's the deal,

we need them to leavetheir money in this movie,

meaning we need people to go see it

because they're making lessand less of these kinda films.

This movie costs as muchto walk in and go see

as this movie that cost$100 million, $200 million

with lots of special effects.

You know, people tend to go over here

because they feel like they're going

to get more value out of that.

But if we can get acertain number of people

to buy tickets to see this movie,

we can make more movies like this.

- The film "All Saints" wasin theaters back in 2017.

It's now available onmultiple streaming platforms

and it is certainly worth a look.

Before we take a break,it is right now time

to say it in pictures.

Here is this week's Studio 5 Snap Shot.

- My friends, let us not forget

that we are involved in aserious social revolution.

- [Efrem] That's the voice ofcivil rights icon, John Lewis,

who helped to organize the1963 March on Washington

and became a 17-termUnited States Congressman.

He died Friday, sevenmonths after announcing

he was battling pancreatic cancer.

Lewis was 80 and honoring him

is this week's Studio 5 Snapshot.

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- And welcome back to thisspecial edition of "Studio 5"

as we take a look atthe film "All Saints."

Actor Greg Alan Williams plays the role

of Michael Spurlock's boss in the film.

We're gonna sit down with him next,

but first here's a look at him at work

in the film "All Saints."

- Can we at least try?

Let me take it to the council.

- Your church would have to sign off.

Everybody, especially the Karen.

And when you come to the BNC,

you better have a plan carvedon tablets from Mount Sinai.

- Yes, sir, understood.

- And you get that if it all goes south,

you'll be mopping marblefloors for 20 years

before someone offers you another call.

- I do.

- And you also get that I'm only one vote

and not necessarily a yes.

- I get that, too.

Thank you, Bishop.

- In this film, you playthe role of Michael's bishop

and you assign him apretty ugly job. (chuckles)

What's the relationship,to you, between these two?

- The wonderful thing is, is that

as Michael sort of forges his own path,

as much as the bishop realizes

that these things need to get done,

Michael is an inspiration for him,

sort of reminding him abouthis early days in the ministry

and what it was to be a missionary,

to work with those who are different.

- What was it about thisstory that attracted you?

- (laughing) Oh, you know,

what is it about the least of these?

Love one another? (laughing)

And many years ago I had a mentor

who asked me to volunteerat a food pantry.

And very soon, it becamethe highlight of my week,

working at the pantry.

And at the same time I hadanother mentor who used to say,

"I sought my God, my God eluded me.

"I sought my soul, mysoul I could not see.

"I sought my brothers andsisters, and I found all three."

So somewhere in the midst

of my volunteering in that food pantry,

I realized that theyhad conspired, you see.

(men laughing)

They said, "You know, we'll (stammering)

"first restore this youngman to his fellows."

- In playing thesespiritual leaders for you,

is that something easyfor you to tap into?

Is it something you grew up with?

What is it?

- It's easy because I honor it.

I remember those ministers.

You know, I was mentored by these men

and these men were my shepherds.

So when I'm asked to portray a shepherd,

I take it very seriously.

- I love it, I love it.

Did you always you knowyou wanted to be an actor?

I know you were in the military.

- You know, I always knew I wasn't

very good at math or science.

- (chuckling) Neither am I.

(both laughing)

- You know, so my mother wasan actress without a venue.

If you could imagine a single mother

in the late 50s, early 60s.

My first play was"Streetcar Named Desire,"

I was the baby and mymother was the flower girl,

at the Des Moines playhouse.

So she taught me, fromthe time I was very young.

She gave me the gift of the spoken word.

And, you know, ourprinciple venue was church

and so, when I came outof the Marine Corps,

I did go to (stammering)...

What would you call it?

Broadcast school, BrownSchool of Broadcasting

to sort of be a DJ and that sort of thing.

And then there was a bandthere called Flyte Time,

which later became The Time,

and Terry Lewis and Jimmy Jam

and I played keyboard with them.

And then Lou Bellamy created Penumbra,

which is now a world-renownedtheater company,

and I was cast in therep company and the dye

was sort of cast at thatpoint and here I am.

- Actor Gregory AlanWilliams is a busy man

with many projects in the works.

He's an author, an actor, and a singer.

Before we take a break,right here it is time

for the number one storyin this week's countdown.

Take a look.

At number one.

♪ Why so heavy on my soul ♪

♪ Did you forget who's in control ♪

It's new music from RebeccaSt. James out this week.

"Dawn" is the singer and actress'

first studio project in nine years.

Why the long absence?

- About seven years ago, Ikinda unofficially retired

and really sensed that it was time for me

to just move on from a reallyconcentrated season of music.

Really when I laid downmusic, about seven years ago,

I kind of thought I maynever pick it up again,

but God radically changed myheart about three years ago

and pulled me back to music and here I am.

♪ Come be still, oh anxious heart ♪

♪ Find rest here in the father's arms ♪

- [Efrem] Still to come.

- After Vietnam.

- His wife sure was a dear.

- There's just too much dust in here.

- [Efrem] Friend of "Studio 5"

comedienne Chonda Pierce joins us

with a final word fromthe set of "All Saints."

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- And you are back in Studio 5,

where music is the weeklyheartbeat of this show.

And this week the soundtrackcomes courtesy of KB.

Here's a sample of "10K."

♪ God so good, say less I'm breathin' ♪

♪ Ten thou' ten thou'I'ma believe 'em all ♪

♪ I got a God, don'tchange with the seasons ♪

♪ Ten thou' reasonsthat I can believe in ♪

♪ God so good, say less I'm breathin' ♪

♪ Ten thou' reasons, uh yeah HGA ♪

On that musical note, we are almost

out of time for thisedition of "Studio 5."

So let's pause right nowand take a look ahead

at what's coming up next week.

(upbeat music)

"Studio 5" heads back to Music City

to sample this unique and fun sound.

♪ Check it out ♪

♪ Your love is so amazing ♪

♪ Your love is so amazing ♪

These are the voicesof Nashville Life Music

and we're meeting the people

behind this incredible music story.

♪ Your love is so amazing ♪

♪ Your love is so incredible ♪

We certainly hope you willjoin us for that story

and so much more come next week.

As for the Final Word for this show,

we're gonna return tothe cast of "All Saints."

Comedienne Chonda Pierce isalso starring in the film.

Here's a look at a scene from her

and then her Final Word.

- Lordy, we need ourselves

a good old-fashioned book burnin'.

- Let it go, Mary Olivia.

- Ruth's daddy made us burnall our Beatles stuff one year.

He thought Ringo was the devil.

(gasps) Would you look at that?

- Oh, when we had ball fields out back.

- Is that you two playing tag?

(women laughing)

- Look at Miss Delphia's hair.

You could raise sparrows in there.

- You have a churchhome growin' up, Padre?

- Uh no, I barely had a home home

'cause I was a corporate brat.

Is that-

- Yup, Forest.

He wore that uniform, didn't he?

- I thought he was a farmer.

- After Vietnam.

- His wife sure was a dear.

- There's just too much dust in here.

(book thumps)

- I love this character. (chuckles)

She seems like the perfectfit for you to portray.

- Oh, thanks a lot!

- I don't mean that. (laughing)

- Yeah, oh my stars!

You know, your voice inflection.

Of course, I'm just new to the whole...

I'm not new to acting,

but it is a (stammering).

With a voice like this, I amlearning about typecasting.

- Oh no.

- And so, I'm definitelytypecast now as the older,

that's what's so sad.

If they need a little squatty church lady,

I always get it.

(Efrem laughing)

But what I did like about this,

she's mean as all heck.

And I can tell ya' exactlythe women I was thinking of.

- Please share.

(both laughing)

So you know these women.

- I know these women, you know.

I grew up in the church andso I tell people all the time

I've seen the good, bad, and the ugly.

And my part in this movieis one of the uglies.

(both laughing)

You know, and she's not so,

she's not horribly,

Ruth was not a horrible person,

but she really representsa majority of folks

out there that have astruggle with change.

And that's something that rings true

in the church world in a lot of areas.

When we don't want tochange from the hymns,

we like the hymns.

And then they put the words on the wall.

Now we don't even have hymnals.

Now we've got praisechoruses and rock bands

and smoke and mirror,

we've got the smoke machine.

And so Ruth comes from a dying breed

of church folks that whenyou embrace that a little bit

you go, "You know, shewasn't so far off base,"

'cause we have gotten a littlewacky in some of our change.

We kinda go overboard in some of it.

And yet at the same time, she reminds me

of a lot of church folksthat get completely off focus

of what the church is all about.

And that's why I love the story.

After I investigated the whole story

and saw the finished productfrom the movie I was like,

"Wow, this is a must-see story for a lot,"

especially a lot of thesmaller churches out there

that are struggling, it's a great story.

But it's great for all churches out there,

I think, that sometimes we lose focus

of what we really are about.

- [Efrem] Yeah.- That's the truth.

And how do we put our feet to our faith?

Because the church still has the answer,

we still have Jesus.

That's our best product.

And if we put actionto how much we love him

and how much we love other people,

you would have stories like"All Saints" all over the world.

- That is a great Final Wordfor this edition of "Studio 5"

and this week's look atuplifting entertainment.

Until next time, make timeto uplift someone around you

and then, please, comeon back and see where

"Studio 5" takes you next week.

Thank you so much for watching.

Bye bye, everybody.

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