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Don Lemon Wrongly Claims: Jesus 'Admittedly Was Not Perfect When He Was Here'

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- More reaction over the weekend

to CNN news anchor Don Lemon's comments

that Jesus was not perfect.

Among those responding, two big names,

powerful in the NFL,

former NFL player, Ben Watson,

and NFL coaching legend, Tony Dungy.

Here now with more on this story

is Faithwire.com's Dan Andros.

Dan, first let's listen toexactly what Don Lemon said.

- But here's the thing.

Jesus Christ, if you believe in--

If that's who youbelieve in, Jesus Christ,

admittedly was not perfect

when he was here on this Earth.

- Dan, so what's the scenarioaround what Don Lemon said?

- Yeah, well, I believe they were talking

about all of the protests going on,

and conservatives and Christians,

how they are responding torevered figures in history

like our founding fathers

suddenly being called into question,

the Mount Rushmores of the world.

When President Trump wentthere, everybody reacted to that

and started calling them slaveholders and things like that,

and so this was an analogy that Don was

attempting to try and make,

and I think he kind of fell short with it.

Obviously you saw the clip there.

The big thing that caught people's eye

was the "admittedly" Jesussaying that he wasn't perfect,

and obviously that's contraryto what Scripture says,

and teaches us about Jesus coming here

and living a sinless life,

so it just scratched alotta heads, you know,

and left people wondering what exactly

was the point he was trying to make,

'cause he never really clarified it.

- So what was thereaction from Tony Dungy?

- Yeah, well, Tony Dungy tweeted out,

and he saw the clip and he said,

"I'm sorry, Mr. Lemon,but just who admitted

"that Jesus wasn't perfect here on Earth?"

And he said, "Not anyonewho believes the Bible,

"not anyone who trustsin Jesus as their Savior.

"I'm not sure the pointyou're trying to make,

"but your premise is dead wrong,"

and Tony Dungy, obviously oneof the class acts in the NFL,

and not exactly a hot take artist,

so for him to chime in, you know,

it had to be somethingthat really stood out.

- We also heard from formerNFL player, Ben Watson.

What did he say?

- Yeah, Ben Watson saidsomething interesting.

He sad something similar to what Tony said

when he appeared on Fox & Friends,

and said that the Bibleteaches something different,

but he also made the comment,and it was a short segment,

so he didn't have time to elaborate,

but he said he spokewith Don at one point.

He didn't clarify whetherthat was after the statement

or before it, but he said, "Don does agree

"that Jesus was sinless,but he has another opinion

"on what the meaning ofthe word perfect is,"

or perfection, so that'sone, and I Googled that

and I couldn't find anythingDon said about that,

but that's one I reallywant to find out about

because that's a theologythat I've not heard of before.

- Yeah, same here.

Lemon was, we know, raised a Baptist,

and he went to Catholic school,

and he is gay and married, of course,

so why do you think he said this?

Has he made any sortof statement about it?

- You know, he hasn't made a statement

that I have seen about it,

or at least one that's been picked up,

but it's interesting because,you know, he did say--

While he didn't clarifyit, he did write in 2011

about his childhood, like you said,

growing up in the Christian faith,

and he did make this comment,

'cause he said he felt younger,

as he was realizing he was gay,

that this contradicted, and hewas having all these feelings

and not feeling--

Feeling guilty, I guess, about his sin,

but he wrote, "As I got older,

"I began to realize that allthese people and institutions

"interpreted the Biblesomewhat differently.

"I had sort of an epiphany.

"The Bible was aboutthe lessons you learn,

"not about the events or the words,"

so I think that's an indication

into how Don views the Bible

a little bit differentlythan most Christians do.

- Now, Christians, ofcourse, believe the Scripture

and the core principle of the Gospel,

that Jesus, who waswithout sin and became sin

in order to restore us to a relationship

with the HeavenlyFather, so as Christians,

your thoughts on how we should respond,

perhaps an opportunityto teach that truth?

- Yeah, absolutely, and just to be clear,

I don't think this should beabout just bashing Don Lemon

or anything like that.

I think most Christiansare just responding

because exactly that, it'san opportunity to teach.

Here's someone who has an understanding,

unless he misspoke and he justkinda flubbed the sentence

or flubbed the analogy,

he appears to have a misunderstanding

about a basic and core Christian belief,

and so, as you said, it is an opportunity

for us to share the goodnews and explain like no, no,

we're all the ones that have sinned.

Jesus lived a perfect life,

and that's good news for all of us

because we can all beredeemed through Christ

because of what he did.

- Indeed, Dan Andros, thank you so much

for bringing this story to life for us.

Much appreciated.- All right.

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