TONIGHT: DEFUNDING THE POLICE; AS PART OF A PUSH FOR CHANGE IN THE WAKE OF THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD AND NATIONWIDE PROTESTS.
THIS AS DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS UNVEIL A SWEEPING POLICE REFORM BILL.
AND JOIN US INSIDE THE VICE PRESIDENT'S ...
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- [Jenna] Tonight defunding the police.
- That makes absolutely no sense.
- [Jenna] The push for reformin the wake of the death
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Growing calls tonight todefund law enforcement.
Hi, everyone, and thanks forjoining us, I'm Jenna Browder.
In cities across the country this weekend,
we saw protestors demanding change
after the death of George Floyd.
And now in Minneapolis,the city council says
it will dismantle the police department
with hopes other communities follow suit.
CBN White House CorrespondentBen Kennedy joins us
from the North Lawn withthe president's response.
Ben.
- Jenna, President Trumpsaid he is appalled
by the defund police movement.
But organizers says theydon't plan to stop rallying
until police are held accountable.
Press Secretary KayleighMcEnany said today
in the Briefing Roommoments ago that her boss
recognizes the unjusticedone to George Floyd
but believes the nation'slaw enforcement are quote
"the best in the world and good people."
- It is extraordinary and whenyou think the left has gone
far and they couldn't possibly go farther,
'cause we all rememberthe defund ICE movement,
they want to defund immigrationand custom enforcement,
and now they want to defund the police.
This is extraordinary.
This is rolling back the protective layers
that protect Americans in their homes
and in their places of business.
- Protestors are askingto redirect the money
from police departments to other programs
and are even calling forbanning police choke-holds
and revamping law enforcementtraining programs.
Jenna.
- Reopening after getting hit very hard
by the coronavirus pandemic.
You, of course, were in today's briefing.
What is the latest on the pandemic front
from the White House?
- Jenna, it's been exactly 100 days
since the city's first confirmed case.
The Big Apple was lockeddown for roughly three months
and as they reopen,they are also preparing
for the possibility of a second wave.
I asked McEnany if the country could
see a Phase 4 relief bill anytime soon.
- Speaking of the economy,New York City began
reopening its economy todayafter a very long lockdown.
Does President Trump think we need
another coronavirus stimulus package.
And if so, what would he want to see in it
before he signs it?
- He's remained open to a Phase 4.
There was some discussion about this.
There was a meeting lastweek at the White House
about that actually.
I won't get ahead of him but he had said
there are several things he wants,
payroll tax holiday was one of them
because that directlyadvantages low income workers.
Several other things that he would like
to see in the package,won't get ahead of him,
but he's certainlystill open to a Phase 4.
But it can't be, as he's noted,
just state and localbailouts for blue states
that have run their states into the ground
because of decades of Democrat policies.
- So bottom line, wenow wait for lawmakers
to make some sort of a decision,the White House to respond.
The virus has claimed more
than 110,000 lives in the US alone.
This as COVID-19 cases areon the rise in 20 states
and as growing concerns about the spread
after hundreds ofthousands of people marched
against police brutality.
Jenna.
- All right, CBN White Housecorrespondent Ben Kennedy,
great reporting, thank you.
And here now for our "FaithNation" political panel,
CBN's chief political analyst David Brody.
David, it's good to see you.
Let's start with these angry calls
to defund the policedepartments across the country.
Today we saw the Biden campaign come out
in opposition to that.
But do you think this couldbecome a Democratic platform?
- Yeah, possibly, but I can tell you this.
Remember, Joe Biden will bethe candidate for Democrats
and I can guarantee you JoeBiden's campaign is gonna
say to the DNC, "Hold on for a moment,
"we're not putting this in the platform."
And I think that's gonnabe the ying and yang here
as to how far the Democrats go.
I think Joe Biden has twoopponents in the general election.
He's got Donald Trump, we all know that,
but the other opponent,the silent opponent
and maybe not too silent opponent,
not as many people are talking about
is the far left of the Democratic Party.
Defund the police, Joe Biden just said,
"No, I don't wanna defund the police."
So clearly, he's putting his marker down
in the center in themore of the moderate lane
but that's not gonnawork for the far left.
They're very active, they're very loud
and Biden needs all of themto mobilize against Trump.
If he starts to fracture with them,
that's a problem for him in November.
- You think we'll see PresidentTrump pounce on this idea?
- Absolutely.
I think the contours have become this.
Far left Democrats aresaying, "Defund the police."
And Donald Trump is saying,"Defend the police."
And I gotta tell you, if it'sbetween defund and defend,
you tell me, Jenna, how moderates
and independents aregonna go in the suburbs.
They're not gonna gofor defund the police,
that's not an ideological statement,
that's not a politicalpartisanship statement,
that's the facts.
Just wait until thepolling comes out on this.
There is no way that defundthe police is gonna play
in Peoria, if you will,around this country.
Absolutely, 100% no.
- Today, David, Biden, hevisited George Floyd's family.
This, of course, as PresidentTrump, he doubles down
as the law and order president.
Which response do you think is resonating
more with Americans?
- Right now, I thinkthe consoler in chief,
something that Joe Bidenis playing very well,
is resonating.
We're seeing that in some of the polling
that Americans want to come together,
they're very fractured andthey're very frustrated
right now in this country.
And Donald Trump is playing into that
as the law and order president.
I think Donald Trump hasa real opportunity here
to do something on racial injustice,
a racism reform, ifyou will, when it comes
to the police departmentand law enforcement overall.
It's been way too much withDonald Trump of law and order,
not enough on the compassionate side.
And I gotta tell you,we know in the Bible,
we know law and order is important,
we also know compassion isvery important in the Bible.
And the mix of the two is crucial.
Donald Trump right now islopsided on the law and order part
and he has an opportunityto show compassion
to do something legislatively.
But we'll see, I'm not quitesure it's gonna happen.
- David, speaking of polling,
a new Wall StreetJournal/NBC poll finds 80%
of Americans feel like the country
is spiraling out of control.
How do you think this sentiment bodes
politically for President Trump?
- Let me just say, I know thatsounds like a high number.
Honestly, Jenna, I kindathought it was a bit low.
Don't we pretty much all think the country
is spiraling out of control?
The good news is we have Jesus,
so that's the most important part
and I don't want to bury the lead.
Jesus is the lead.
I think ultimately whatwe've seen with these is that
they haven't necessarily been reliable.
Let's remember, within those polls,
that CNN poll, Michigan, it shows that
Joe Biden is up 14 points inthe key state of Michigan.
Guess what?
In 2016, Hillary Clintonwas up 12 points over Trump
just a month before theelection in Michigan.
Let's take these pollswith a grain of salt,
see how it all plays out.
- All right, CBN chiefpolitical correspondent
David Brody, thank you very much,
happy Monday.- Thanks.
You too.
- To Capitol Hill whereHouse and Senate Democrats
are pushing to pass sweeping police
and criminal justice reforms.
Today they unveiled their legislation.
This, of course, aslocal leaders are dealing
with those calls todefund law enforcement.
CBN Capitol Hill CorrespondentAbigail Robertson
is following this story forus and joins us with more.
Abigail.
- That's right, Jenna.
House and Senate Democratsunveiled this sweeping
legislation for police reform as cities
like Minneapolis become the first cities
to lay out plans to defund the police.
- Our commitment is to endour city's toxic relationship
with the Minneapolis Police Department,
to end policing as we know it.
- [Abigail] Their planwould divert funding
over the next year fromthe police department
to community-led publicsafety initiatives.
- It is your voice.
It is your fight thathas got us to this point.
- [Abigail] New York MayorBill de Blasio announced
similar plans althoughGovernor Andrew Cuomo questions
that move given recentlooting in the Big Apple.
Acting Homeland SecuritySecretary Chad Wolf
calls the whole idea ofdefunding the police absurd.
- It makes no sense to me.
I think it's a verypolitical statement to make,
but it does not protect our communities
at the end of the day.
- [Abigail] House and SenateDemocrats are taking action
from the federal levelunveiling a sweeping
police and criminal justice reform bill.
- Today with the Justice in Policing Act
the Congress is standingwith those fighting
for justice and taking action.
- [Abigail] Democraticlawmakers took a knee
before introducing whatthey say is a long-overdue
response to racial injusticesin law enforcement.
- It will combat policebrutality by requiring body
and dashboard cameras,banning choke-holds,
no-knock warrants in drugcases, and end racial profiling.
- [Abigail] Around the country Sunday.
- I pray that they would meet you today
in the mighty name of Jesus, Lord God.
- [Abigail] Many Christiansjoined peaceful prayer walks
and rallies like thisone in Washington DC.
- We ask Father God inthe mighty name of Jesus
that the people of Washington,they kneel down, too,
because we know at the nameof Jesus every knee shall bow
and confess that Jesus is Lord.
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- Republican Senator MittRomney joined the crowd
of Christians yesterdaymarching and praying
in Washington DC saying he was there
because he wants people to know that
he believes black lives matter.
While another RepublicanSenator Tim Scott unveiled
his own legislation that he re-introduced
from 2015 that calls forhis own police reform.
Back to you, Jenna.
- All right, Capitol Hillcorrespondent Abigail Robertson,
thank you.
And here with us now formore is Pastor Dean Nelson
president and CEO of theDouglass Leadership Institute
and chairman of the FrederickDouglass Foundation.
Dean, thank you so much for being with us,
good to have you today.
- Thanks so much.
- What's your take on this movement
to defund law enforcementand how do you think
that fits in to criminal justice reform?
- I think that the whole idea of defunding
these police departmentsis a radical idea.
I don't think that it shouldgain very much traction.
I think it's a bad political idea
and I don't think it'lldo anything for the people
who need to be protected in some of these
urban areas that are oftenvery vulnerable areas.
- These protests have exposed radical
disparities in our nation.
Why, in your opinion,have these disparities
in America been so persistent for so long?
- A lot of people aretalking about disparities
and there some disparities.
But I think that we need toseparate some of these issues.
There are racial issues withinour country and our culture.
There are some racial inequitiesthat we can deal with.
But when it comes to police brutality,
I think that all Americans who watched
that video with GeorgeFloyd should be shocked
and I think our heartsgo out to his family
and to others who have beenvictimized in that way.
I do believe that there's a way that
particularly the Christiancommunity can come together
and offer some common sense suggestions
to remedy the problem.
One of those would bedeescalation type training
that many law enforcementofficers need to have.
In talking to some law enforcementofficers just recently,
they were also lamenting the challenges
that they experience with public unions
in terms in these cities with police
because many times theseunions are protecting bad cops
and sometimes creating a bad culture.
I think that there are somethings that can be done
that would also includeideas of community policing
where people are really better engaged
with those that are in their community.
Certainly if you have a relationship
with the folks in your community,
it's harder to look atthem not as being human.
Anyway, I believe thatthere's some good suggestions
that can come forwardbut some of the things
that we're hearing from theradical left are not going
to do anything to helpthose in urban communities
when it comes to protecting them
which is the firstresponsibility for government.
- In your opinion, is there anongoing human dignity crisis
underlying all of thesetopics we're talking about?
- Without a doubt.
That whole idea of imagoDei everyone of us created
in the image and likeness of God.
I believe that there aresome systemic challenges
that we see within our culture.
We're encouraging Christians from across
denominational lines,from across ethnic lines
to reaffirm the dignityof all human beings
whether it's the innocent pre-born child
in its mother's womb or whether it's a man
who is crying for his last breath.
I think that it is important for all of us
to reaffirm that idea of human dignity.
And certainly racism is anattack against human dignity.
- All right, Pastor Dean Nelson,
president and CEO of theDouglass Leadership Institute,
it's good to see, thank youfor your insights today.
- Thank you so much, God bless you.
- [Jenna] Time forlistening and understanding.
Coming up, we take youinside the vice president's
listening session withblack church leaders.
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Tonight, we are waiting tosee results from a meeting
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at a high -profile blackchurch in Maryland.
It's all about hearing their perspective
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CBN News National Security Correspondent
Eric Philips joins us with more.
Eric.
- Jenna, if the Trumpadministration wanted
to get a true sense, theypicked the right crowd.
Vice President Pence heard plenty
during this no-holds-barredsession sparked
by challenges grippingour nation right now,
many of them rooted an inequality.
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that the lives of people really matter.
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as he visited Hope Christian Church,
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to hear to listen to oneanother and open hearts.
- [Eric] Leaders there spokeout on a variety of subjects
including the recent riotsgrowing out of protests
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- The looting, unacceptable.
It's illegal.
But what's happening is the abuse that
they have been taking is illegal, right?
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and "The law is not protecting me so
"why should I abide by yours?"
- [Eric] Another major topic,
the pervasive concern forblack parents already simmering
after the shooting deathof jogger Ahmad Arbrey.
Derrick McCoy said he hastwo sons about Arbery's age.
- You can't go everywhere.
Don't go running around byyourself, make sure you check in
and make sure that you come home, son,
because as a dad, I'm concernedto make sure they come home.
- [Eric] Bishop Harry Jacksonpastors Hope Christian Church.
He and I spoke on "Faith Nation"
just days before the meeting.
- Someone's got to speak ina sense in the name of God
to the heart of all our minorities.
- [Eric] The vice presidentsaid the administration
sees the inequities and is establishing
Economic Opportunity Zonesproviding better choices
for those in inner-cityeducation and supporting
black colleges to helplevel the playing field.
- It will not be enough justfor us to heal our economy.
We've got to heal that which divides.
- [Eric] A slight difference in tone from
what the president saidFriday in the Rose Garden
when asked what his plan isto address systemic racism.
- Our country is so strongand that's what my plan is.
We're gonna have the strongesteconomy in the world,
we almost are there now.
- It's not what yousay, it's how you say it
and sometimes we got to take a step back
and figure out how we say things
and the tone of where it comes from.
And I think right now we're in a place
where America is listening and we have
to have the right tone.
- And here's an interesting tidbit.
During a press conference today,
the White House press secretary was asked
if President Trumpbelieves there is systemic
racism in police departments.
She said no, that hebelieves there are instances
of racism but that by and large
police officers are good people.
Jenna.
- All right, Eric, thank you.
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manufactured vaccine supplies such as
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