(urgent, serious music with air whooshes)

- "Good Overcomes Evil."

That's the title of PastorTroy Brewer's latest book,

and he's demonstrating that every day

through his international ministries.

He's rescuing children around the world.

Today, he has more than 30 orphanages.

Each year, in Nepal and India alone,

more than 300,000 girlsare trafficked for sex.

I recently talked with the Texas pastor,

who is determined to do what he can

to stop it.(air whooshes)

300,000 just in Nepaland India alone annually,

at least 300,000, aresold into sexual slavery.

- Yes.- And you're doing

something about it.

- Yeah, you were mentioning this number,

this horrendous number, of 300,000.

You know, it's not like there are billions

and billions of people in Nepal.

They are literally depletingtheir nation of their girls.

It's unbelievable.

So, the kind of work thatwe're doing there is,

we actually have border teams that are

stationed at all theborder crossings there,

and we are literally profiling people

as they're coming across,literally profiling them,

and going, "Why is thatguy with that young girl?

"Let's talk to him."

It's a very, you have tobe very confrontational,

you have to get in their grill and say,

"So, tell me what's goingon here," and if they say,

"Well, none of yourbusiness, we're doing this,"

or whatever, we blowthe whistle, literally.

The police come, wehave a very good rapport

with the police in Nepal.

They come, they separate the two.

We talk to the girl tofind out what's going on,

and then we begin, if she is, indeed,

being sold into slavery, now we're

gonna have to begin the process of,

"Is it a situation wherewe can return her back?"

Number one, if she's a child, many times,

these little, bitty kids, I say,

"What's your mama'sname," they say, "Mama,"

and so, they don't know.

And then, there is no infrastructure there

to actually be able to find their parents.

So now we have thetremendous responsibility

of taking care of themfor as long as it takes.

Then, we also have the responsibility

of prosecuting the trafficker,

and we have teams, we actually have

legal teams, and their job is to actually

prosecute the traffickerand put them in jail.

- And a lot of these traffickers,

I understand, in Nepaljust go into villages,

grab the kids--- Exactly.

- And the parents can'tdo anything about it.

- [Troy] As a matter offact, nobody can do anything

about it, because in the nation of Nepal,

you cannot get a prosecuting attorney

unless you pay for him.

So the poor people aredefenseless, and they know that.

People will literallycome into the villages

and say, "I'll take that one, that one,

"that one, and there'snothing you can do about it,"

and they leave with them.

That's correct.

- But you're putting a stop to that.

- Yeah, we are.

- As much as you can.

- It's up to us to do this, and it's

up to us to answer this kind of evil

with the goodness of God, and part of

the goodness of God is literally being

stable in the midst of this instability,

actually being in the mess when

you do not have to be there.

But then, the long-term obligation

of building the safe houses and then

building the homes forthese kids to live in,

providing them meals,providing their education,

it's what redemption actually looks like.

- Well, I know often, you have said,

"Redeemed people redeem people."

- That's correct.

- Now, it must, though,get frustrating sometimes,

because you see such a great need,

but I understand, from my own experience,

that you can only help thosethat God puts in front of you.

So do you ever get discouraged?

- Well, there's two parts of that.

I have fought discouragement through

the years, because I see things that,

"Oh my gosh, I need toget involved in that."

(inhales sharply) But what's real is,

I just say yes to everythinguntil I have to say no.

And then, if I have tosay no, I have to say no.

My wife and I, we mortgaged our home

seven times to pay for this.

Before our ministry started to grow

and before we had ministry partners,

it was literally justshe and I, on our own,

doing this for years and years

and years, and we had to mortgage

our home over and over and over again.

And I know how tough that is.

I also know this, we can do alot more than we think we can.

Everybody's like, "I can only do so much."

Oh, listen, you can doso much more than that,

and the Lord knows our limits.

- And it's really goes innicely to the next part

that I'd like to discuss, is your book.

- You know, honestly, I'm involved

in lots and lots of different things,

and I finally just said,"You know, a big part

"of my life theme, a part of the message

"that the Lord has trusted me with,

"is that good does overcome evil."

Evil does have to be confronted,

and it doesn't take a lot oflight to run off darkness.

It takes a little bit ofgoodness to overcome evil.

We make such a big deal out of evil,

when, in fact, evil is just, my pastor,

Pastor Jim Maxwell, he always says this.

"Why should I be defeatedby an old defeated devil?"

And I'm like, "You know what?

"That is something really good to say."

And so, the goodness ofGod is what God looks like.

Whenever Moses said,"Lord, show me Your glory,"

He said, "I will cause My goodness

"to pass before you," right?

THat's what He said.

So if you wanna know what God looks like,

He looks like goodness.

I don't think that theproblem in America is

that there's just not enough Christians

or enough churches.

There might not just be enough goodness

within the body of Christ, that we need

to be demonstrating the goodness of God.

- So, "Good OvercomesEvil," your newest book.

I don't know when youhave time to write a book.

(Gary and Troy laugh)

With everything you'redoing around the world.

But it's a pleasure to have you here today

and talking with us.

Thank you.- Thank you so much,

my friend, thank you.