'Dismantle Religious Freedom': Republicans Warn VA Bills Undermine Rights from Churches to Christian Schools
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- Virginia lawmakersare poised to pass bills
that could impact how churches
and other faith-basedorganizations operate.
The controversial billsfocus on discrimination
in public places and employment,
based on a number of factors,
including gender and sexual orientation.
Opponents say the bills infringeon the religious beliefs
of churches and privatefaith-based schools
by dictating who may attend or work there,
and even how their restrooms are set up.
In a speech opposing the measure,
Republican David Larock said,
"Make no mistake, this billis intended to dismantle
religious freedom andto force the government
to make everyone conform to its version
of marriage and sexuality."
The Family foundation helda press conference today
on this very issue,
and its president, VictoriaCobb joins us live now
for some perspective.
Victoria, there are a number of bills
making their way throughthe Virginia legislature
right now, but three or four of them
are of particular concernto the Christian community.
Can you elaborate?
- Well, certainly, we've long had a debate
about government policywith regard to these issues
of sexual orientationand nondiscrimination,
but now these billshave stepped way beyond
just a simple policy about how government
is gonna handle its own employees,
and it steps into the private sector,
both in the world of business
and in private organizations
that can be anything fromsocial service organizations
all the way to Christianschools and churches
or places of worship.
- What is at risk if thesebills are passed as is?
Talk a little bit more
how it could changefaith-based institutions.
- Well, fundamentally,what these bills say
is that there is one view ofsexuality and gender identity,
and that that view hasto be held by everyone
if they're gonna operateanywhere involving the public.
And so, it's a terribly wide definition
of what accommodating thepublic actually means.
So essentially, it tellsChristian schools and churches
how you must hire, fire,
how you must organize your bathrooms,
and even what kind of pronouns you'll use
when dealing with people.
Essentially, we believeit's set up to dominate
and take over and actuallycreate a new theology
within a lot of churches thatwe simply don't agree with.
- How does the current environment
in the Virginia state house differ
from past years, I mean,
have we ever seen proposalslike these before?
- We've never seen things
that completely infringeon religious freedom
to this degree, where they wouldshut down adoption agencies
for simply not adopting tonon-traditional families,
where Christian schools wouldhave to allow transgenders
in biologically boy or female bathrooms.
We've never seen anythinglike this, and unfortunately,
the environment down here is not simply
just taking wide new sweeping policy
and considering it, it's actually passing
with very little debate and discussion,
and real hard conversationsabout who these bills impact,
and what kinds of ministries and schools
might be threatened bythe bills that they pass
in their current form.
- Victoria, what's next?
How does the Family Foundationfighting against this,
and what will you do if these bills pass?
- Well, we're deeply concerned
that it's gonna be very difficult
to completely stop the bill from passing,
so our goal at this point
is to at least get clear amendments
that remove any possibility
that a church or Christian school,
an entity that is a faith-based entity
would have to complywith these regulations.
But certainly, if it doespass, I'll be honest with you,
we expect to launch right into litigation.
They're unconstitutional,they're a violation,
not just of our freedom of religion,
to exercise our faith, butfreedom of association,
and even freedom of speech,
if we're gonna compel peopleto use certain pronouns.
And in Virginia,
where the birthplace ofreligious freedom is,
where we penned the statuteof religious freedom
that became the model forthe western hemisphere,
we can't stand for that here.
- All right, Victoria Cobbof the Family Foundation,
thank you so much for your timeand your insights, Victoria.