- The Iowa Caucuses areless than a month away,
which means the 2020 presidentialcontest is about to begin.
But how important is Iowa this year?
A piece in "Politico" this week suggests
that it matters less,citing fewer candidate days
on the ground this year.
We're joined now by someone on the ground.
Shane Vander Hart is the Editor-in-Chief
of Caffeinated Thoughts, aconservative Christian news
and culture website based in Iowa.
Shane, thank you so much for joining us.
- Hey, thanks for having me, Heather.
- I wanna ask you aboutthat "Politico" piece,
but first off we have seenIran dominate the headlines
this week, is that something that Iowans
are following closely andsomething that you think
the candidates are talkingabout on the ground
or will be talking aboutin the coming weeks?
- Oh certainly, especiallywhen we're anticipating
what's gonna happen movingforward after the initial
back and forth between theUnited States targeting
General Soleimani andthen the missile attack
that Iran launched, so we'vebeen talking about this.
I don't think it's gonna makethat much of a difference
when it comes to the IowaCaucus because I think
the Democratic candidates are saying much
of the same thing,attacking President Trump
on launching this attackwithout notifying Congress.
Republicans are prettysupportive of President Trump
here in Iowa, I believe.
I think while they were supportive
of this particular targetingof General Soleimani,
we don't necessarily wanna seean all out ground war either.
What'll happen goingforward will determine
how much of an issue it'sgonna be among Iowans
as we approach not just the Iowa Caucus
but the general election in November.
- Right, I think we're allbreathing a sigh of relief
right now but still cautious.
I wanted to ask you aboutthat "Politico" piece
and just the importance of Iowa
in this year's presidential race.
Of course, you're biased, you're an Iowan,
you're on the ground there.
But from your vantagepoint, what are you seeing?
Are the Democratic presidentialcandidates spending
less time in Iowa than in previous years?
- I think that's accurate.
I mean, you can't reallydeny they're counting up
actual events and how manytimes they're coming out.
It doesn't seem like thatbecause they are just so many
Democratic candidates, so it seems like
we always have somebody here in the state,
but the caucus is a little bit later
than it's been in the past,
and I think that's making a difference.
You got Super Tuesdaylooming a month out from,
I believe a month out,from the Iowa Caucus,
and that's gonna make upabout 60% of the delegates.
You've had some complaints,Julian Castro, he's the one
that first lodged the complaintabout Iowa being too white
and not diverse enough, so youprobably have that at play.
But what your viewers needto understand is that Iowa
may not necessarilypick the party nominee,
even though we have in certain years.
What Iowa's useful for iswinnowing down the field.
We started this particularprocess cycle with over,
I believe over 20 candidates.
It hasn't winnowed down enough,
but basically we'relooking at about three,
maybe four tickets out of Iowa.
You generally don't seeanybody that places fifth
or lower do well moving forward.
- You're saying that Iowa doesthe heavy lifting in essence.
I wanna ask you somethingabout your predictions
for this political year.
You're predicting that Pete Buttigieg
will win the Iowa Caucus in a close race,
that we'll also see Amy Klobucharbreak into the top four.
Tell us what your thinking is on that.
- Well, I think Buttigieg has one
of the strongest organizations in Iowa.
He has over a hundred staff in Iowa,
at least earlier in the cycle he did.
I'm sure he's moving some of those out
to New Hampshire and Nevadaand other places as well.
He's attracted a lot of attention.
He's had several eventswith over a thousand people
in places like Indianola andDecorah, not major cities.
And then with polling,you've seen him at the top,
even though right now we'vegot a close three-way race.
The last poll actuallyCBS/YouGov had the Iowa Caucus
at a three-way tie, 23% between Buttigieg,
Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.
I think it's still, I wouldsay as far as organization,
I think it tips towardsButtigieg at this point.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden snuck in.
I think Sanders, I believeSanders has a cap in Iowa.
I haven't seen him raise much further
beyond the 23% he's polling out.
Again, I wouldn't be surprisedto see Amy Klobuchar.
She's got an all-in strategyin Iowa, Iowa or bust.
If she doesn't at least hitthe top four, she's done.
With her rise, and Ithink Elizabeth Warren
declining a little bit,I wouldn't be surprised
to see her trade placeswith Elizabeth Warren
and come out of Iowa infourth place at least.
- All right, a lot to watchin the Democratic field.
And we've just got a couple seconds here,
but just briefly, youthink that Iowa will vote
to re-elect the president.
Why is he so popular in Iowa in your view?
- Well, I think Iowans seethat he has kept his promises,
and that's big, I thinkthe economy's doing well.
We see a low unemployment rate as well.
And you rarely see Iowa notback an incumbent president
when the economy's doing well,so I'd be very surprised.
And Iowa's also I think trending red too.
We're still considered a swing state,
but the last few elections they've tilted
towards Republicans, so I would be shocked
if we suddenly had a flip.
- All right, Shane Vander Hartwith Caffeinated Thoughts.
Thanks so much for your time.