Pro-Life Churches, Ministries Fight NY Law Forcing Them to Hire Pro-Choice Employees
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- Welcome back.
Religious freedom under fire in New York.
Governor Andrew Cuomorecently signed legislation
that forces pro-lifecrisis pregnancy centers
and religious advocacy groups
to hire workers whoactively support abortion.
On this week's episode of The Global Lane
Denise Harle of TheAlliance Defending Freedom
says government hostility toward pro-life
and religious groups isgrowing in that state.
Take a look.
- So, Denise, we saw peoplecheer with shouts of joy
when Governor Cuomosigned a bill last year
allowing abortion in New YorkState right up until birth.
Remember that one?
Well, now this.
Please explain what the new law means
for pro-life and religious groups.
- That's right, this isthe third in a series
of very pro-abortion laws that New York
has passed this year.
This one just comes down to the fact
that all Americans arefree to live and work
according to their beliefs,
but what New York has done is decided
that the state governmentis going to force
faith-based and religious organizations
to hire people that disagreewith their pro-life views,
and that's unconstitutional.
- Well, it seems thatthis is really advocacy
on the part of the state of New York,
so pro-life and religious groups were
not exempted from this law.
Why weren't they exempted?
- Because that's whoNew York was targeting.
New York is demeaningreligious organizations,
churches, and pro-life groups,
and essentially sayingthat your good faith
difference of opinionhas no business here,
and so what they'retrying to do is to punish
places like our clients,First Bible Baptist Church,
Encompass Care Pregnancy Center,
and forcing them to operate in a way
that's not consistent with their values
and their core mission.
These are charities and churches
that affirm life fromconception to natural death,
and under this law, theyare forced to employ people
who may advocate for abortion.
- Denise, it seems thisgoes beyond just a violation
of religious freedom andfreedom of speech and so forth.
It seems like discrimination.
Is this discrimination?
- This is absolutely hostilitytowards a religious viewpoint
and the Supreme Court has madeclear over and over again,
including last year inMasterpiece Cakeshop,
that the state government cannot
express hostility to certainreligious viewpoints.
The First Amendment protects against that,
and that sort ofdiscrimination has no place
in our free society.
- What are the ramifications, then,
for the rest of the country?
How likely might we see similarlegislation in other states?
- Well, we feel veryconfident that this law
is going to be struck down,
and that's what we'veasked the courts to do.
The First Amendment iscompletely clear that
a state cannot come in and
say what a church can say or not say,
or believe or not believe,
or who a church can associate with,
so we think this law is going to fail.
But unfortunately, states like New York
do try to sort of test the waters,
and float these sorts of ideas out there,
so we're hoping to nip it in the bud
and not to see this sort ofunconstitutional discrimination
towards pro-life viewpoints in a society
that needs places likepregnancy care centers
to serve and love women,and help to encourage them
to choose life for their babies.
- You said ADF is challengingthis law in court,
so tell us a little more about that.
Does that go to the StateSupreme Court in New York,
or the U.S. Supreme Court?
What's the next step?
- So we filed a lawsuitin Federal District Court,
and we have also filed for a
preliminary injunction, which means
we've asked the court toimmediately stop the law,
because on its face itviolates the First Amendment
in at least three ways.
It violates what theseorganizations can say and not say,
because it prevents them from even having
a moral code of conductfor their organization
and for their employees.
It violates their freeexercise of religion
because it prevents themfrom living out their beliefs
by forcing them to essentially endorse
and associate with beliefsthey don't believe in,
and three, it violatestheir free association
under the First Amendment because it says
who they can and can't hire and employ,
so those are the groundsfor our complaint,
and we're hoping for afairly swift resolution
in the Federal District Court.
- Okay, Denise Harle,please keep us posted
on how this progresses.
You're with The AllianceDefending Freedom.
Thank you so much for those insights.
- We will, thanks Gary.
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