'Thank You, Thank You, Lord': Christian Pilot's Nerves of Steel Saved 148 Lives That Day
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- Well, it felt like aMack truck hit the side
of the aircraft, that'show Captain Tammy Jo Shults
described the scenewhen her plane's engine
suddenly went up in flames.
At that moment the livesof more than 140 passengers
were in the hands of apilot who'd been told
she'd never be able to fly.
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- [Narrator] On April17th, 2018, 20 minutes
after Southwest Airlinesflight 1380 took off,
Captain Tammie Jo Shults
experienced a catastrophic engine failure
which caused an explosion that severely
crippled the aircraft.
The rapid depressurizationmade it difficult to see,
hear and breathe at times
but Tammie Jo and her crew remained calm.
She relied on her faith andher years of extensive training
as a former Navy aviator togain control of the Boeing 737.
In her memoir, Nerves of Steel,
Tammie Jo shares howshe followed her dreams,
earned her wings and safely
landed Southwest Airlines flight 1380.
- Please welcome to The 700Club, the hero of flight 1380,
Tammie Jo Shults.
It's wonderful to have you with us.
- Thank you, thank you for having me.
- If you had to guess, howmany times in your life
were you told, girls don't fly?
- Oh, a number of timesby people who could
make it happen or not.
- Yes, which was really,I think the part of it
that became discouraging after awhile.
There was a window oftime where even though
that had been your dream,you kinda set that aside
based on all of thenegatives you've heard.
What happened that changedand brought you back into path
with your original dream?
- Well, part of it was justseeing a woman getting her wings
in a class there at Vance Air Force Base
and I realized, okay, theysaid that girls don't fly
but I'm seeing it.
So, after talking toher and realizing okay
there is a way under thefence and I'm gonna find it.
- Even in your attemptsto go into the military
and to become a pilot, youwere told all along the way
that that wasn't possible.
You finally go into the Navy to do this,
did you have a lot ofdiscrimination along the way,
tell me about what happened.
- Well, I think when, Imean, I was the only female
in my squadron for the firstthree squadrons in two years
so of course, if you're agreen apple in a bushel of red,
you can sometimes garner moreattention than you would like.
And I served with some incredible men,
prince among men and great aviators
but of course, every onceand awhile there would be
someone who thought that theydidn't want to be challenged
by a girl doing the samething they were doing
and made life a little tough.
- The hard part aboutthat in reading your book,
I felt so frustrated for you was
you could have spokenup about those things
but you would have had to live with
even greater repercussion after the fact
so you just kinda decided to tough it out.
That had to be difficult and miserable.
- Well, I mean the things we learn at home
sometimes serve us well throughout life
and one of the things that my parents,
especially my mom saidwas tell God on them.
I mean, get on your knees and just tattle
and then when you finish pray for them.
And then review what, areyou meeting resistance
because it's not a wise thing to do
or what's your motiveand what's your merit?
And so I would compare my motive to theirs
and feel like mine was more noble.
- [Terry] Exactly.
- And just let the Lordhandle that and move on,
study harder, move on.
- Be better, exactly and Godoften uses those hard things
in our lives to hone us- Oh, I think so.
and to prepare us.
It made you do more,go farther, be better.
So let's go back to last Apriland what actually happened
in that Southwest flightthat you were commandeering.
Let's talk about it, you had140 some people on board?
- Yes, 149.
- And just about the time as you took off
that most pilots are kind ofloosening the tie a little bit
and sitting back and sayingwe made it, we're up,
we're at, you were at32,000 some feet in the air.
- Right.- What happened?
- Well, Darren Ellisor, my first officer
and I both thought we'dbeen hit by another aircraft
that we'd had in midair- Wow.
because the jolt was so violent
and the aircraft went intoa snap roll to the left
and we both caught itand leveled the wings
and then just as quicklythere was suddenly
such a shuttering ofthe aircraft and a roar
through the aircraft thatwe couldn't focus our eyes
on anything, we couldn't hear each other
and then we couldn't breathe.
And so that was the beginning.
- So, how did you gather yourwits about you, Tammie Jo
to figure out what do tonext, smoke filled the cabin
at one point, I mean, youcan't even see the instruments
much less decide what you're gonna do.
You can't speak as you said to the copilot
so how did you communicate with each other
and how did you decide what to do next?
- Well, being isolated likethat adrenaline kicks in
and I remember thinkinggood news, bad news
and the bad news was Ididn't think everything would
stay on the aircraft forus to get it to the ground.
And that kinda led me tothe mental cliff of what if
which would be this would bethe day that I meet my maker.
And that's when I stopped the rush stopped
and I just had a calm
because I realized I wouldn'tbe meeting a stranger,
that I meet with him everyday
and so that is where I steppedaway with a calm in my heart
that I think that wasreflected in my voice
but also in just being able to think
through the many decisions thatDarren and I needed to make
to get to the runway in Philadelphia.
- They were layers deep andthey had to keep changing
with the circumstances.
What had actually happenedthat caused all of this?
- Well and we just dealtwith the symptoms for awhile.
What we didn't know had happenedwas the number one engine
had exploded and thenshredded the cowling back
so that it stayed attachedkind of like a banana peeling
and it was flailing in500 mile an hour wind.
It had also taken chunksout of the leading edge
and damaged a window which had blown out
and so that caused the roar,
that caused the rapid depressurization.
There was also just an unscriptedcombination of emergencies
that ensued, hydraulic lineswere cut, fuel lines were cut
and so we were dealing with drag
that we hadn't ever practiced dealing with
and then getting closer to the ground
we realized we didn'thave level off capability.
That the thrust from the goodengine wasn't all ours to use.
- How did you land this thing?
- Very carefully.- Yeah. (laughs)
- And truthfully with layersof experience and training
and I've been asked every once in awhile
if I felt like the Lord landed the plane.
And I said, no he hadprepared me for years,
he'd been pouring into me foryears to take care of that.
- What are the three takeaways you want people
to get from your book, Nerves of Steel?
- I would say it would behabits, heroes and hope.
Habits being what we chooseas a habit on a good day.
- You meet with the Lord everyday
and you pray before every flight.
- Probably my mostimportant habit of life.
And those are instincts and in a bad day
we have that generous gift of choice.
Heroes, no title, no equipment required,
just taking the time tosee and the effort to act
on behalf of someone else.
And last but most important, hope.
When we had a plan and a destination
and communicated that itgave our flight attendants
and passengers hope.
- You said over the loudspeaker, we're not going down,
we're going to Philadelphia.
- Right, right and I thinkthat having a destination
whether it's in an airplanethat's a rough, rough ride
or in life, that element of a destination
doesn't have to change ourcircumstances, it changes us
and that's enough.
- It's a gripping story, Nerves of Steel
is her brand new book,I wanna mention also,
there's a Nerves of Steelcoming out for young people.
- Oh yes.- In September right?
- My heart is wrapped around that one.
- What is this one now, is it--
- It's the same thing,it's got a few more stories
than what the Nerves of Steel does,
they're shorter chaptersbut it was junior high
and a junior book thatput my paths on the feet,
my feet on the path to aviation.
- Get it for your school library, folks.
Tammie Jo, thank you forbeing on the program,
what an amazing story.
- Oh thank you.- Bless you.