- Well eight years ago Rebekah Lyons

started using Instagram.

For years she became obsessed with,

not only sharing everyday moments

but creating them toimpress her followers.

Social media became the master.

Rebecca became the slave.

- [Narrator] Rebecca Lyons'life is full as a wife,

mother of four, andpopular speaker and writer.

Much of what she speaks and writes about

is her own struggleswith anxiety and stress.

- [Rebekah] In recent years,I've been on a personal journey

to find sustained emotional, relational,

physical, and spiritual health.

I've discovered four simple rhythms.

- [Narrator] In her latestbook, Rhythms of Renewal,

Rebekah explains the four ways

that can help us all live lifewith more peace and purpose.

- Please welcome to the700 Club, Rebekah Lyons.

Rebekah, great to have you here with us.

- Thank you.

It's a joy to be here.

- Well you once sufferedfrom panic attacks,

and then you overcame them.

Then what happened when youwere touring this historic,

beautiful historic home in California?

- Right, so about seven years had gone by

since that first panic attack,

and then the healing journeybegan a year into that.

- [Wendy] So you were out, like--

- Yes, yes.

- You'd already written abook about how to overcome.

- Oh yes, a couple, a couple.(laughing)

- Were speaking.

- Teaching on freedom and healing,

and all those things were true.

God meets us in those moments.

He floods us with peace.

He walks us on a healing journey.

But what I found that sevenyears years later into that

is that I had a moment of relapse,

and I think that happens for a lot of us.

And then I had to have thisconversation with God like,

was the healing real?

Because what happenedis I was trapped in this

bathroom stall in this old historic home.

- [Wendy] Two by four.

- Yeah, two by fourcement walls, very thick.

It was just this veryrare, very unique home.

- There must have beensmaller people back then.

- [Rebekah] Yes, I think so.- 100 years ago.

- Yeah, 'cause the toiletarea was set apart,

and 100 year old wooden doorwith this little antique latch.

And all my friends had left.

We were hosting a retreat actually.

So the house was emptyfor the next couple hours.

My phone dies.

All of a sudden the door won't open,

and it's closing in,

and I have the worstpanic attack of my life.

It's like.

And the way panic attackswork for so many of us

is it's rooted out of claustrophobia,

or a feeling of being trapped,and we just wanna run,

and yet there's nowhere to go.

- [Wendy] Right.

- And so, we kinda feellike if we don't escape

we're gonna die.

And it's not rational, it's not real,

but our mind is terrified,

so our body acts as if we'rebeing held at gunpoint.

- Then you looked up.

- I look up,

and there's this tinylittle window at the top

of like a, like the wall,

and I had to barely reach it

hoist onto the back of the toilet,

and just little antique window.

I'm like, will it open?

I didn't know if thatlatch was broken too.

And I was able to slowly get out

and just topple onto the rocks.

The cliff's right therelooking down at the water.

It was crazy.

- And then once you got out,

and it was later--- Yeah.

- You were I believe laying in bed,

and you were asking God, what happened?

- What is this?

Yeah.

- I went seven yearswithout this horrible panic,

and it came back.

Am I a fraud?

You were asking all these questions.

- Yeah, shame.

Shame immediately comes in

I think when relapsehappens for any of us.

Have we even made any progress?

Is this just now?

And I think despair is when you believe

things will never change.

- But God said something to you

that was so powerful in that moment.

What did he say?

- He said, I don't promisethat fear won't come knocking,

but I always promise a way of escape.

- I love it.

Say that again.

- I don't promise thatfear won't come knocking,

but I always promise a way of escape,

and it reminded me of ascripture I learned as a child

that I will be with you as a way of escape

so that you may be able to bear it.

And I think that's whathappens for so many of us

when we're walkingthrough panic, or anxiety,

or stress, chronic.

We don't feel likethere's a way of escape.

Is God with us?

Is he a manual?

Is he our ever-present helpin every moment of trouble?

- Well, we're gonna get back to that,

but first, I wanna talkabout the Instagram,

being a slave to Instagram.

How did that become your master?

- Well, we had just moved to New York City

with a child who wasfour, seven, and nine.

We thought it'd be greatto move to New York

with three kids, two toypoodles, and a mini van,

which is not cool anywhere,

but particularly pulling into Manhattan.

And I remember Instagram was new,

and it was like almost a photo gallery

for all my friends back home.

And New York had somany interesting things

to take photos of.- [Wendy] Of course.

- So it was fun.

Central Park, the kidsplaying, feeding the ducks.

- Times Square.

- Times Square, you name it.

And so, it really was just that.

It was an expression.

I'm creative.

I loved lighting, and lens, and camera.

But over time, when Istarted writing and teaching,

I realized later on in life,

about five or six yearsinto this, I was like,

all of a sudden there was anexpectation with social media.

Like you have to bring content to this

'cause you're a content provider.

And sometimes I was like, am I sharing

the things God's prompting me to share,

or am I sharing what Ithink people need to hear?

- Just to see those likes come in.

- And it just took too much of my time

and attention away from evenbeing present with my family.

That was the real point of it.

- Well, your beautiful new book,

and I love the cover, Rhythms of Renewal:

Trading Stress and Anxiety fora Life of Peace and Purpose.

And Rebekah, you talk about four ways,

or as you call them, rhythmsthat will help people

overcome stress and anxiety

and the need to constantlypost on Instagram.

Why is rest so important?

- Rest is the foundation, I think,

because God's not casual about rest.

And he created the world,

and he created us in thisrhythmic order, right?

We have heartbeat, we havebreathing, we have pulse,

we have cadence, we haveseasons, and waves on the beach,

and day and night, and Godcreated everything in rhythm.

And when we get outside ofthe boundaries of rhythm,

chaos ensues.

And so we live in aculture now where 78% of us

experience physical symptoms of stress.

That's almost four our of five of us.

- [Wendy] Wow.

- And that's when it turns into anxiety.

It's not just you're over scheduled.

It's like you start havingshortness of breath,

and a racing mind, andyou can't sleep well.

And so this rest is like, weneed to get back to the basics

of just take a nap,have a morning routine.

- [Wendy] I love naps.

- Routines for deep sleep.

I wanted really practical tips in the book

on like how do we rest?

Take a tech detox.

- And I love that you talkabout the input rhythms

and the output rhythms,

and just like you weretalking about the waves.

What are the input rhythms, andwhat are the output rhythms?

- Yes, so the input rhythmsare rest and restore.

So rest is your inner life,your spiritual health.

- [Wendy] Okay.

- Restore is your physicallife, your physical health.

Eating, diet, exercise.

And then the last two rhythmsare connect and create.

Connect is your relational health.

Your family, your relationships,your vulnerability,

hospitality, conflict resolution.

And then create is your vocational health.

Just your talents and your gifts

that God has put in youto offer to the world.

- Rebekah, how can beingcreative lead to renewal?

Here you are, a busy mom, four kids,

two with Down Syndrome,which is another book.

- Yes.

- And you still have time to write books

and speak all over the place.

How can being creative--- [Rebekah] Sure.

- [Wendy] Lead to renewal,

and how can we do that and still rest?

- Right, exactly.

Well, they all kind ofwork in a cycle, right?

So after you've rested and restored,

and then usually you areconnected with people,

then you co-collaborateand you create things.

None of us do anything in isolation.

We always love workingwith teams of people

who we're like-minded with.

And so, for me, as a kidI was called Bekah Book.

I never knew that readers make writers,

but God, I believe, puts, plants.

He says that his works are wonderful

when he knit us in the womb,

and then he calls destiny over our lives,

saying, all my days werewritten in your book

and planned before one of them began.

So I didn't know when I was fourth grade

reading 62 Nancy Drew booksthat I would eventually write,

but readers make writers.

And when we do the things Godactually established for us,

even in these birthrightgifts, it makes our heart sing.

So create is very mucha part of our renewal.

- Well, I read a lot of books for my job,

and I can tell you, thisis, you are a good writer.

- Oh, well thank you.

- And this is a great book.

And everyone should get it.

Rebekah's book is calledRhythms of Renewal:

Trading Stress and Anxiety fora Life of Peace and Purpose,

and it's availablewherever books are sold.

You don't wanna miss this one.