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A former ISIS bride leavesher jihadist husband.

Alveda King on theDemocrats, Trump, and race,

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Persecution against people of faith

is rising around the world,

and according to a new Pew Research study,

Christians and Muslimsare suffering the most.

Pew says in general,Christians were persecuted

in 143 countries in 2017.

That's compared to 107 in 2007.

Muslims face persecutionin 140 countries in 2017,

compared to 96 in 2007.

Jews were persecuted in 87countries compared to 51.

Now some of the worstpersecution against Christians

has occurred in the Middle East,

where ISIS and other militant groups

have waged jihad againstancient Christian communities

in Syria and Iraq, and you may think ISIS

is just a group of fanatic,radicalized Middle East Muslims.

Not true.

Some radicalized Westernershave joined the terror group.

So how could that happen?

Young people growingup in Canada, the U.S.,

France, or England, livinghappy, normal lives,

leaving the comfort of their homes

and joining the jihad?

Well joining us from Washington,

Tania Joya and Shireen Qudosi.

They recently appeared on Capitol Hill,

warning Congress and the public

about violent extremism, andthe radicalization of children.

So Tania, tell us, you ended up

marrying a man who joined ISIS.

I'm assuming your husband became

radicalized after you married him.

Tell us what happened.

- He came from a middle class,upper middle class family,

who had a military history.

His dad was a Colonel inthe Air Force for 30 years,

and his grandfather hadserved in World War II,

but with John's experience,

he suffered from depression

and turned to drugs,

and he did drugs for manyyears before he found Islam,

and with Islam and the Muslim community,

he felt acceptance, whereaswith American standards,

I guess he felt very rejected

because he wasn't the most athletic

and he didn't meet up tohis dad's expectations.

So once he started going to the mosque

in Texas,

the Muslim community embraced him,

and they were ex-pats studying

at Texas A&M.

And from there he traveled to Syria,

and he met Muslims from the UK,

who convinced him thatjihad is the only way

we're gonna be able to stopthe oppression on Muslims

and establish our own state,

and have a head of state,

so that's when he becameinterested in a caliphate

and jihad, and it stemmed from there.

And then 10 years on later,

we separated 'cause Icouldn't take that life,

that way of life anymore,

and he started a revolution

and it eventually led to ISIS.

- And how have you been treated

as a result of your husband's actions?

I know you're a British citizen.

Have you been allowed back into England?

What about some otherso-called ISIS brides?

- Yeah, so I'm allowedto go back to the UK,

but I believe America is--

It was America and American values

that changed me, that openedmy mind and opened my heart.

I started reading ThomasPaine material and other--

Benjamin Franklin, and I learnedabout the U.S. Constitution

and the Bill of Rights, andI loved these documents.

It made me question my own religion,

and I started questioning is--

Growing up I was told theQuran is the word of God

and Islam is perfect,and you're not allowed

to think differently,

and after leaving myhusband, I had the freedom

to think for myself, and I had the freedom

to read whatever material I wanted,

and I had the freedom tohave a voice in America.

So you know, America recreated me

and gave me a second chance

to actually be free and I'm ever grateful

to the U.S. government for giving

me and my children theopportunity to live here

and not have to stay and die in Syria.

- I'm sure the first step inpreventing violent extremism

is recognizing in the first place

that radicalization is taking place,

so what should people look for?

- So, I grew up as a Muslimand I'm still a Muslim today,

and one of my big concerns is the level

of ISIS recruitment andradicalization in the U.S.

We currently have a thousand open cases

of recruitment and radicalization.

What we're seeing is those patterns

being repeated by neo-Nazi groups, Antifa,

and other social militarization.

Our PVE training program takes the data

and the field research that'susually behind closed doors

in academic circles,and puts it in the hands

of real people in communities,

bringing communities together

to amplify resources and materials

so that people can really help youth

and vulnerable communitiesthat are open to radicalization

stay away from radicalization processes.

- Well, Shireen, I knowit's not just the internet

where people are becoming radicalized.

What other avenues ofinfluence are you seeing

that parents and others should be aware of

when their children are influenced?

- Right now there's a lotof peer pressure as well.

What we see with the neo-Nazi groups

is there's an epidemic injunior high and high schools

where the behavior isbeing repeated on campus,

behind closed doors, atprivate parties, and online,

and so college campuses, andof course, also high school

and junior high campusesare really struggling

with how do we really challenge that,

and one of the solutions isto offer a counter message.

It's not enough just tosay this is a hate group,

don't join it, because as wesaw with the war on drugs,

saying no to drugs doesn't work,

and the next sort of playground for youth

is extremist ideologies.

- [Gary] I know that Antifa isvery active at our colleges.

- Colleges are dealing with censorship,

and they're dealing with alot of group think behavior,

which is antithetical to the entire spirit

of a college education, soit's definitely another campus,

another opportunity for recruiters

to target people who arefeeling like they don't belong,

and then pull them intothese pocket behaviors,

these pocket communitieswhere they do feel

like they do belong, andwhat's really interesting

about the U.S. right now is the behavior

that we're seeing on college campuses

with the sort of far leftist rhetoric

is the same sort ofrecruitment and radicalization

that happens in the Middle East

with the far,

I would say, the Islamist extremists

who go ahead and they cultivate

recruits for the MuslimBrotherhood, for al-Qaeda.

It's the same sort of behavior pattern

repeating in the U.S. right now.

- And Tania, tell us about themovie Kids Chasing Paradise.

I know screenings have takenplace around the world.

What's it about, and what are you hoping

will happen as a result?

- Kids Chasing Paradiseis about extremist groups,

terrorists, exploiting children

as cannon fodder and puttingthem on the front lines.

- I'd like members of Congress to bring

our PVE training program,that's a free resource

to their communities.

We have a pilot programin Richmond held right now

that brings together key stakeholders

in law enforcement, education,and different clergy members,

and of course, the mediaand elected officials

so that all key stakeholders are informed

on what a PVE training program looks like,

and how they can implement the solutions,

mostly the solutions forPVE in their communities,

and it's a free resource.

We will come to you, and weare happy to help communities

help prevent radicalization.

- Okay, Shireen Qudosi and Tania Joya,

thanks so much for joiningus today from Washington.

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- Minutes after the Walmartmass shooting in El Paso,

some Democrats and members of the media

targeted President Donald Trump.

They say the President'stweets and rhetoric

about immigration and theborder incited the shooter

to open fire on innocent shoppers.

Democratic presidentialcandidate Beto O'Rourke said

he believes the Presidentis a white nationalist,

a racist who quotes, "stokesracism in this country."

It seems race has now become a major issue

in the 2020 presidential sweepstakes.

Well, joining us with someinsights on this issue

is evangelist Alveda King.

She is Director of CivilRights for the Unborn

for Priests for Life.

Mrs. King, it's apleasure to talk with you.

So what is your take onall of this back and forth

about our President being a racist?

- Well, I've been hearing that,

but first let me say this.

We have so much turmoil in the country.

There are random acts ofviolence just exploding,

and we want to say that we are praying.

When I say we, over atCivilRightsForTheUnborn.org

are praying for those whohave experienced losses,

and there's a stirring about racism

with a misunderstanding withpeople feeling as though

we are separate races.

We are not color blind.

We can see, Jesus gave sight to the blind.

Open the book of Colossians.

It says pray with mewith your eyes wide open.

If my eyes are open, I can see you.

I'm writing a book with Ginger Howard,

my friend, on that subject.

Now, as to the issues of racism

and calling the President a racist,

and playing the race card,

this race has to be justified

and get reparations, andthis race needs to do this,

and this race needs to do that.

Well, certainly, even with reparations,

if the government paysreparations with tax dollars,

and I'm African-American andI'm asking for reparations,

you'll take my tax moneyand pay me reparations.

That's not gonna work.

But the people that did the oppressing,

at the time of slavery and Jim Crow,

and when you were young, in the 1960s,

and you participated in civil rights,

all of those folks,well, there were people,

at the same time,organizations that started,

and they were getting moneybecause of oppression,

because of mistreatingpeople, because of slavery,

because of genocide, because of eugenics,

and those big organizationshave billions of dollars now.

You put 'em all together theyhave trillions of dollars.

They still exist.

That's who needs to help.

Take the money that theyhave used to harm America

and help to heal America.

President Trump understands this.

He's not a racist, he's not color blind.

He said we all bleed the same.

He gets it, he can see it,

so he doesn't see us by skincolor as separate people.

He sees ethnicity,

he responds to ethnicity, and that's okay

but he's not a racist.

The race card makes peoplemad, it stirs them up.

You're a racist, you're a racist.

Ugh, no, we are one blood.

Acts 17:26.

- So what do you thinkabout race being used

as an issue by candidates in the upcoming

2020 campaign season?

- Well, when you have a genuine platform,

and you can prove thatyou're making America better,

making America great, and youwant to keep America great,

such as bringing the steel mills back

and jobs back to America,

such as defending the unborn in the womb

and doing everything youcan to protect the unborn,

reuniting families, returningcitizens from prison,

bringing them back intothe community with jobs

in the opportunity zones,small business administration,

historically blackcolleges and universities

getting money, all of this is out of

the Trump administration,under the leadership

of President Donald John Trump.

Making a park for an African-American man,

Martin Luther King Jr.,signing that order,

religious freedom, okay, soyou've got a real platform

and you're doing things for America.

Now if you have aplatform that still votes

for aborting babies ifthe baby is born alive,

you just make it comfortable, let it die,

'cause you meant to abortit, and that kind of thing,

or you don't know what to do with people

who want to come to this country for help,

so you open all your bordersand make no requirements

with no support for themcoming in and getting

brought into a country andlearning to love the country,

if that's all you can do,then what else can you do

but yell racism?

- But what effect doesit have on the country

and race relations, whenthe President criticizes

four Congresswomen of color,

Congressman Elijah Cummingsand the city of Baltimore?

- Well, I notice we're havingrandom acts of violence

that are outbursts, they're just coming

all over the country, but wehave random acts of kindness.

You have to look at thesource of the kindness.

You have to look at thesource of the violence.

And so I've just givenyou many, many things

that are helping America, healing America,

that President Trump is doing.

We've got to continue to heal,

and the way to do that,we begin ourselves,

seeing each other as brothers and sisters,

not separate races.

I'll give you a foreign language.

This is a new language here.

When I say words like civility,

kindness, decency, those are words that

the music out there is not playing it,

the movies are not doing it,

and so we forget totalk that way ourselves,

so we have to remember to do that,

and as we begin to be kind to each other,

stop calling each othermy race and your race,

but we're human beings,we all bleed the same,

like President Trump says,

so I see brothers andsisters, and I stop--

He's an avid listener, heis a very active listener.

I was in a meeting with President Trump.

There were 20 pastors and leaders

from the black community,you notice I didn't say race,

community, and as he was there,

he gave us the floor.

He didn't just tell usda-da-da, all of this.

But he listened, he actively listens,

and after you meet withhim, a few weeks, months,

or days later, you go backand you see the progress.

From the day he got in there,

President Trump has beeneffectively and positively

addressing those littlebabies in the womb.

- And how do you think yourfather and uncle Martin

would respond to all of thisif they were alive today?

- My dad, Reverend AlfredDaniel Williams King,

A.D. King, M.L. King, Daddy King,

Martin Luther King Sr.,would encourage us to pray,

love each other, watch our words,

let those words be kind, and listen,

and speak, and act togetheras brothers and sisters.

We can actually do that, and you know,

like I said, you've gotrandom acts of kindness

and random acts of violence and evil.

Now the media, for somereason, much of the media

will only publish the bad news.

They won't publish the good news.

And so we've got tolook for that good news

and then we have to be the good news,

and we can do that.

And you know, I'm atCivilRightsForTheUnborn.org,

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to promote and bring good news forward,

and we have good news in us.

We just have to proclaim it.

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- Reform means improvingsomething that is corrupt.

Many people around the worldsay Islam needs someone

who will reform the faithlike Martin Luther did

with the Catholic Church.

I recently attended the 10th Annual

Coptic Solidarity Conferencein Washington, D.C.

where that topic was discussedby a panel of experts.

So can Islam be reformed?

Here is former Muslim,

Christian television host, Brother Rashid.

- It's like saying bringingIslam to its original shape,

to a working shape.

What if the originalshape was not working?

What if it was deformed from the start,

from the beginning, it was born deformed?

You cannot reform somethingthat was born deformed.

And here we go to some problems

that were mentioned by our panelists here.

There are four mistakes,

those who believe in reformation,

they have four fundamentalmisunderstandings.

First, they assume

that all religions are the same.

They are good in their core belief.

They are born good, and theyare for the good of humanity,

but later on on the course of history

they have been changed oraltered by politicians,

by different people, andthat's what made them evil.

They put Christianity with Buddhism,

with Islam, everything in one basket.

And that's wrong.

We cannot approach religionswith the same mentality.

They are not the same.

Let's say Christianity was practiced

by the first apostlesand the first disciples,

Islam was practiced by thefirst Muslim community.

What if the first community was violent?

So bringing Islam to its first shape

is actually, that's what wecall Wahhabism and Salafism.

And it will not give us a better result.

It will give us probably a disaster.

The second problem is

comparing Islam to Christianity.

Since the reformation wassuccessful with Christianity,

either through Protestantsor through Catholics,

because there are Catholicreformation as well,

so because it was successful,then it must be successful

with Islam.

Well, that has anassumption that Christianity

is like Islam and theWest is like the East,

and that's not happening.

The third problem

is the wishful thinking.

I wish that Islam can be reformed.

I hope, I pray.

But is it going to happen?

That's a different story.

People in the West, they wishthat Islam can be reformed,

and because they havethis wishful thinking,

they want it to happen and they encourage

everybody who says I am a reformist.

I want to reform Islam.

The idea of reforming something

is easier than confrontingthe whole thing.

So since it's easierwe prefer reformation.

Confrontation is not welcome,

especially in the West.

A person like me, we are labeled

as bigots, haters.

Why?

Because we confront the problem,

to tell one billion and a half

that your religion hasa problem in the root.

It's not cosmetic, it didn'thappen through history.

It's from the beginning, andyou have to deal with it.

That's a hard message.

Not everybody willing to embrace it.

The fourth problem iswe have some reformists,

and we think they are gonna reform Islam.

Do they have at least one mosque

you can call it a reformist mosque?

Do they have a reformed Quran?

Do they have a reformed Hadith?

A reformed biography?

Zero.

They didn't change, they are not changing

the Muslim world.

They are changing the Western world.

How to deal with it, then?

Well, there are some solutions.

One of them, it's happening actually.

Until 1961, slavery was allowed

in the Muslim world.

We didn't reform Islam to change slavery.

We just forced the Muslim world

to follow the international laws

to abandon slavery.

How did we achieve that,in Egypt for example,

they don't stone somebodywho committed adultery.

They don't cut the hands of a thief.

They put him in jail.

In Morocco, the same thing.

How did we achieve that?

By forcing them to followthe international laws.

By disabling those texts.

If you want to pray toyour God using those texts,

you're welcome, go do it,

but you cannot apply it on the ground

because it's inhumane, it'snot welcome internationally.

So how are we gonna achieve it?

By forcing Muslim countries to embrace

the international human rights,

by separation betweenthe state and religion,

by respecting religious freedom.

They are not gonna attainit through reformation,

but by countries like United States

making Muslim world submit

to the international community.

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