Faith-Based Non-Profit Leader in El Paso: 'The Feeling of Hope and Love is Overcoming Hate and Fear'
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- Sami Dipasquale runs a faith based
non-profit in El Paso.
I actually met him earlier this summer
while I was there reporting on the border
and he joins us now with more
of what's happening in his community.
Thank you, Sami, for joining us.
We are just all incredibly grieved
about what is happening there.
I understand a number of pastors were
talking about the shooting yesterday
in their services, including your own
and that you attended an interfaith
prayer vigil last night.
Tell us about that.
- Yeah, thank you, Heather.
I was at a vigil that was right behind
the Walmart where the shooting took place
and it was hosted by an interfaith group,
many different Christian denominations,
protestant, Catholic and then leaders
of other faiths as well as our mayor
and a couple of our members of congress.
And I think the overwhelming message
coming out from there was
of love overcoming hatred.
It was a time memory, atime of coming together,
a time of unity.
I left with hope.
I left with hope for El Paso.
As maybe some of you have heard, this is
a very welcoming, kind city, one of the,
I guess one of the kindest,
most hospitable places I have lived.
It's 83% Hispanic, madeup of many immigrants.
I have felt welcome here thewhole 15 years I've been here.
I've never felt in fear.
It was devastating to hear yesterday
friends from El Paso and particular those
who are Hispanic expressing fear
for the first time in their lives
being here on the border.
So, it was an amazingtime coming together.
- Yeah, I'm really gladto hear about that.
Are there any commonthemes that you're hearing
from people in response to this shooting
other than that unfortunately,that feeling of fear?
- I think the fear, the feeling of hope
and of love and hospitalityand of that overcoming
and it's a highlyfaith-filled community here,
including so many of the asylum seekers
that are landing on theborder, of deep faith,
coming from deep faith, many of them
from protestant evangelical backgrounds.
And so, I think thatthat feeling that God is
with us and that fear will not overcome,
that love will overcome fear and hate
and that is I think the overriding message
that we're hearing right now.
That has been the case in the past
and that it will continueto be that in the future.
- We understand thatvery few victims names,
if any, have been releasedso far, but that fund raising
has started for their families.
Can you tell us about some of the efforts
to come around alongside these families?
- Yeah, a couple of foundations locally,
The El Paso Community Foundation
and the Paso Del Norte Health Foundation
both have set up avenuesfor people to give
to the victims of, from the shooting.
Also, many of the churchesare expressing concern
and interest in how they can support.
Also, the organizationthat I lead, Ciudad Nueva,
if there are, when the names are released
if there are any family members or members
of our community that weserve, we would be looking
to help support those families as well.
- And Sami, I know thatdefinitely there are people
who want to specificallypray, who are really
trying to think through whathas happened in El Paso.
Any thoughts that you can offer in terms
of how people can specifically pray
for individuals in the community?
- Yeah, I would say definitely of course,
pray for the families of victims
and for those who are fighting
for their lives.
Pray for the city as a whole.
Pray that as a city, we could model
love overcoming hatred and probably
more than anything I would say,
we just pray for ourselves.
Pray for our communities and our churches.
I think what we say matters.
The attitudes we have towards those
who are different than us matter
and sometimes feelingsof pride, superiority
creep in and can reallymanifest themselves
in really ugly ways and I think we need
to examine just pride and prejudice
in our own hearts.
And I would pray for that in all of our,
in all of our churches because I know it's
been concerning for me being on the border
feeling that what the representation
of what's happening on the border
and of the types of peoplethat are coming to the border
have not been accurate in my experience.
Most everybody that I'veinteracted with, and I've
interacted with hundreds, maybe thousands
of migrants on the border,who for the most part
are people of deep faith and are kind
and have been generousand have prayed for me
and yet the attitudes that I have heard
often are those thatbeing fearful of who's
coming in and I think we need to be
examining our own hearts and praying
for God to reveal to us any of the bigotry
in our own hearts.
- All right, well Sami Dipasquale,
thank you, thank you for what you're doing
on the ground there and we appreciate
your time right now.
- Thank you, Heather.