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- [Jenna] Tonight.

- Those people are living in hell.

- [Jenna] The presidenttrashing Baltimore.

This, after a White Housemeeting with inner-city pastors.

- America is troubled.

- [Jenna] Our exclusive sit-down

with one of those faith leaders.

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Increasing violence in Afghanistan,

then the slaying of twoAmerican soldiers comes

as the U.S. prepares to drawdown troops.

And a new book explainswhy evangelicals have stood

by President Trump despite his past.

- There really was atransactional relationship

from evangelicals.

- [Jenna] Plus.

- They came from God and country.

- [Jenna] Today marksthe 400th anniversary

of the birth of democracyin Jamestown, Virginia.

All this and more tonight on Faith Nation.

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- Welcome to FaithNation, I'm John Jessup.

- And I'm Jenna Browder.

The battle over Baltimore heats up.

President Trump saying the people

there are living in quote "hell."

- The commander in chief is notbacking down from his attack

against MarylandCongressman Elijah Cummings.

CBN's White House correspondent

Ben Kennedy joins us with the latest.

Ben.

- John, Jenna, PresidentTrump says he has no regrets

when it comes to hiscomments on Baltimore adding

that the people ofBaltimore really appreciate

what he's doing.

Today, Trump said the WhiteHouse has been flooded

with letters, emails, and even phone calls

thanking him for getting involved.

- Those people are livingin hell in Baltimore.

- [Ben] President Trump doubled down

calling Maryland's 7th District corrupt.

- It's a corrupt city,there's no question about it,

all you have to do is look at the facts.

- [Ben] The poverty rate in 2017 hit 22%,

almost double the national average.

To top that, the cityreceived nearly 17 billion

in federal funds in 2018 alone.

- Billions and billions

of dollars have been given to Baltimore.

It's been misspent, it's beenmissing, it's been stolen.

- [Ben] Alveda King, theniece of Martin Luther King,

pushed back on critics

who say the presidentis making things worse.

- [Interviewer] Are you okaywith the comments he made

about certain cities likeBaltimore being infested

which some folks took as racism?

- Well, you know, America is troubled.

And if we say we're colorblind,

we need to put on our glasses.

We can see.

We can see a troubled America

but we can see a blessed America.

The employment rates areup in every community

including the black community.

- Disgusting and racist.

- A racist president.

- [Ben] While Democratsoffered fierce backlash

to Trump's comments,Republicans have been hesitant

to call out his attacks.

Congressman Mark Meadowsrefused to take a side

concluding that neither man is a racist.

- What are you talkingabout by political strategy?

Are you talking withrespect to Elijah Cummings?

There's no strategy, I have no strategy.

There's zero strategy.

All it is is a pointing out facts.

The most unsafe city in the country,

in our country is Baltimore.

- Now President Trumpmade today's comments

after heading to Virginiato speak at Jamestown.

It is there a group ofblack state lawmakers

boycotted Trump's appearanceciting his repeated attacks

on minority members of Congress.

John, Jenna.

- Thanks, Ben.

Bishop Perry Jackson, senior pastor

of Hope Christian Church, wasat the White House yesterday

for that meeting with President Trump

and inner city faithleaders and he joins us now.

Bishop Jackson, thanks for being here,

it's always good to have you.

- Good to be here, Jenna.

- You have been in the White House a lot

in this Oval Office withthis administration.

You've been up close to President Trump.

Is he racist?

- Absolutely not.

He's a problem solver andin this politically charged

kinda antagonist the atmosphere,

he is someone who speaks his mind.

It's sort of like theJames Bond adage straight

with no chaser kinda thingor those kinds of thoughts.

And in this atmosphere, therecoil is heavy so the narrative

of racism is what isbeing thrown against him.

I believe the DemocraticParty wants to take him out

by claiming that he is a racist.

They feel that's his Achilles heel.

So no matter what he says they come back

with that kind of rhetoric.

- Bishop Jackson, a lotof people characterize

yesterday's White Housemeeting with faith leaders

that you attended as a photo-op.

You were there, was itjust a photo opportunity?

- Absolutely not.

Remember, we met with himone year ago today actually

so it was a checkup,

it was something to findout how we're doing.

We talked about criminal justice reform.

We also talked aboutthe Opportunity Zones.

- [John] So it was planned in advance?

- It was planned way in advance.

Again, when we left last year,

we were told we're gonna bring you back.

So I don't know wherethe media got this idea

that this is just apolitically charged strategy.

- [Jenna] When you seethe president's comments

about Baltimore, how are the people

of Baltimore feeling, Bishop Jackson?

- I have members in Baltimore.

I live equidistantbetween DC and Baltimore

so I know a little bit about it.

I think many of theelected officials are irate

because of the brandingissue of their city.

I think that the people are happy

about Opportunity Zones, economics,

but they're gonna be happier

when we start seeing moreprojects, more results.

I think we're in a timewhere the president

needs a hearing and he needs cooperation.

I'm concerned that what Baltimore can do

with the Opportunity Zones.

We know shovel-readyjob opportunity creation

as well as housing, that thatwill not be received well

and partnered with.

I hope they rise upand do the right thing.

- Bishop Jackson, we onlyhave less than half a minute.

Yesterday someone said thatthe president can do more.

Can you give us examples of what you think

that he can do to help heal the divide?

- I think he can continueto speak in unifying terms.

I think he is a fighter and a doer

but I think if he willreally work on trying

to mend bridges I thinkthat's what he can do

and the work will speak for itself.

But I think he's doing a lot better

and I'm proud of him now.

- Bishop Perry Jackson, thankyou so much for your time.

- Thank you.

- Turning overseas tonight,

reports indicate two U.S. soldiers killed

in Afghanistan were shotby an Afghan Army soldier.

- The insider slayings comeas the U.S. plans a troop

drawdown and after apresidential bombshell

last week in the Oval Office.

CBN News National Security Correspondent

Eric Phillips has the lateston the increasing violence.

- John, Jenna, for some, the deaths

of two American soldiersonly underscores the need

for the U.S. to pull out of Afghanistan.

The question is how do we withdraw?

Recently, the presidentthrew out one option

and why he has not chosen it.

The mission in Afghanistanis far from over.

In addition to the two U.S.soldiers killed Monday,

just last week three back-to-back blasts

killed 20 people in Kabul.

The Taliban claiming responsibility

for at least one of those blasts.

(speaking in foreign language)

- [Translator] I was sitting in my room

when I heard the explosion.

The air was filled with smoke and dust.

I opened the door andsaw two wounded people.

- In areas where the Talibanhave reclaimed control,

there are reports of honor killings,

stoning, and otherattacks on women's rights.

Peace, security, and economicstability are urgently needed.

- [Eric] Against that violent backdrop,

the president said this last week.

- We're not fighting a war.

If we wanted to fight a warin Afghanistan and win it,

I could win that war and a week.

I just don't want tokill 10 million people.

- He would have been muchbetter off editing himself

and not uttering those words at all.

- [Eric] Monday, Secretaryof State Mike Pompeo

said the administrationwants to withdraw troops

from Afghanistan by the 2020 election.

Right now, there are 14,000U.S. servicemembers there.

That would be a challenge inthe midst of so much unrest.

- Every president thatwe've had in recent years

and probably almostevery American would love

for this mission to end.

But whenever we really try to get out

or even to reduce dramatically,

we realize we could be giving ISIS

or Al-Qaeda an opportunity.

- O'Hanlonm says he could seethe administration meeting

its goal of a partial U.S.drawdown by next fall.

Still, he says becauseof the complex nature

of the conflict inAfghanistan the president's

statement was in poor taste he says

and not reflective of any viable option

by the military, John and Jenna.

- All right, thank you, Eric.

Up on Capitol Hill this week,

the Senate will vote ona two year budget deal

between the White Houseand Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

The bill passed the House last week.

- The spending bill eliminates the threat

of another governmentshutdown through the rest

of President Trump's first term

and raises the national debtlimit until the middle of 2021.

For more now, we go to our CBN News

Capitol Hill CorrespondentAbigail Robertson.

Abigail, why are someRepublican senators voting no

even though the president is urging them

to support this agreement?

- John, fiscal Conservatives like

Senator Mike Braun tell me they understand

why President Trump and LeaderMcConnell politically support

this bill but he ranon bringing some sanity

to our government spendingand he can't vote for a bill

that piles on to our alreadymassive debt and deficits.

- The fact that it doesn't have any

reforms associated withit, that it's now kind

of standardized Republicans rolling over

for Democrats on domesticissues and likewise

and Democrats on defense for Republicans,

we haven't done a budget in 20 years

that we've appropriated to.

So I think that we bred into the system

and that this is just the way it should be

but we're avoiding the hard decision.

- Brown added that he believesRepublicans will win in 2020

and if that happensit's time for his party

to start looking at real spending reform

including cutting back on defense spending

or we're headed towards calamity.

- All right, Abigail Robertsonon Capitol Hill, thank you.

On the campaign trail, debate two

for the Democrats is tonight in Detroit.

10 of the 20 qualifiedcandidates will deliver

their message to the American people.

And here they are as theywill appear on stage.

Since the last debate,Senators Elizabeth Warren

and Kamala Harris haveseen a rise in the polls.

According to a new Morning Consult poll,

Vice President Joe Bidenis still a front-runner

but down nine points since June.

Senator Bernie Sanders andPete Buttigieg also saw a dip.

Senator Warren however isup two points since June

and Senator Harris sawa seven point increase.

Tonight's debate startsat 8:00 p.m. Eastern

and will last two hours.

- Joining us now is MikeViqueira a veteran correspondent

who has spent decadescovering Washington politics

both on the Hill and at the White House

for various networks.

Mike, thanks so muchfor being with us here.

- It's great to be here.

- President Trump stealing a little bit

of the Democrats' thunder ahead

of tonight's debate sayingthat he thinks sleepy Joe,

of course Mike, Joe Biden,would be the nominee.

Is he the candidate that Trump

feels is best suited to challenge?

- I think that it's quite the opposite.

I think that the presidentsingles out Joe Biden

because he thinks that Joe Biden

might present the strongest challenge.

Joe Biden is obviously leading the polls,

although as we report, Jenna reported,

he's sinking somewhat at this point.

I think the president wouldfar prefer to have someone

who's not seen as somiddle-of-the-road relative

to the rest of the field.

And I think that's one of the reasons

why you see the presidentsingling out Joe Biden so much.

Of course, the president has attacked many

of the Democratic candidatesat every opportunity he can.

But I think that Biden,perhaps in the president's mind

and the White House's mind,and the Trump campaign's mind

poses the biggest threat at this point.

- What about Senator Elizabeth Warren?

A new polling by Firehouseand Optimist shows her

actually slightly aheadof Joe Biden in Iowa.

- In Iowa.

It's fascinating becauseElizabeth Warren got off

to such a slow start but she'sreally playing to her brand.

Remember, nobody had ever heard

of Elizabeth Warren beforethe financial collapse.

She was in Massachusetts.

She had served in the legislature there.

I'm sorry, as the AttorneyGeneral, I believe,

was going after the big corporations,

really making a name for herself.

There was talk that the Obamaadministration would appoint

her to the new ConsumerFinancial Protection Bureau.

But this is her brand.

She shares a certainpopulism with the president,

ironically enough.

She's also a very good campaigner.

She's energetic.

And remember, Iowa is a caucus state

and only the most motivatedvoters go out for caucuses.

As opposed to primaries and certainly

as opposed to general election.

So I think because she isseen as such a firebrand

and is defined sort of the anti-Trump,

notwithstanding some of thesimilarities that we see

on trade and other issues,I think that's part

of the reason why she's getting traction.

- Mike, in the last debate the candidates

who stood out the most were theones who went on the attack,

both Kamala Harris and Julian Castro.

Do you think we're gonna see more

of that tonight and tomorrow?

Even Joe Biden was saying

that he was overly politethe last go-around.

- Right and I think Joe Biden,

there's a danger for Joe Biden.

Of course, he's on the second night,

on Wednesday night not tonight.

I think there's a dangerbecause his performance was so

sort of halting and he was sodeferential towards the host

that I think he's gonna be alittle bit edgier for sure.

But I think what's gonnacharacterize these debates,

frankly, is the fact that many of these

second-tier candidatesare going to be eliminated

unless they make a move in the polls,

unless they make a movewith their fundraising.

I think you're going tosee a lot of them try

to get out on the front foot,try to talk over each other,

try to talk over thehosts and the announcers

and the people who areasking the questions,

try to get a rise out of the audience,

and look for that one bigmoment that goes viral.

- What else are you looking for

in these two nights of debate?

- I'm looking for sort ofa status quo performance

from the frontrunners and I'm looking for

that one big sort of Hail Mary,

if you'll excuse the expression,

moment from some of thepeople in the second tier.

We've had Beto O'Rourke just out now

with his new environmental policy,

his $5 trillion policy on climate change.

We've got Elizabeth Warren outwith a new proposal on trade.

And we've got a Kamala Harris out

with her latest proposal on health care.

She seems to be a bit of a moving target.

So I think we're in the policy stage now

for the frontrunners.

I think those who are trailingthe field are really going

to have to make a splash overthe next couple of debates,

next couple of nights.

- All right, Mike Viqueira,

thanks so much for being with us.

We appreciate your analysis.- It's good to be here.

- Thanks, Mike.

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- Talk to anyone, Republican or Democrat,

about the tone of today'spolitical discourse

and you'll likely hear the same answer.

- That's right, they'll probablysay it's downright nasty.

But the question is whenand why did American

politics take such a hard turn?

Tim Alberta, Politico's Magazine's

Chief Political Correspondent is out

with a new book called "American Carnage:

"On the Front Lines ofthe Republican Civil War

"and the Rise of President Trump"

currently the number two non-fiction book

on the New York Times Best Seller List.

I sat down with him yesterdayto discuss evangelical support

for the President and the storyline

he wrote about DonaldTrump and Ken Blackwell,

a black Conservative, thatoffers a little perspective

on the current discussion about race.

- Look, Ken Blackwell, Ithink if you talked to him,

he would not be ready tojump to the conclusion

that President Trump is a racist.

But I think Ken Blackwell, like Tim Scott

and like some other prominentblack conservatives,

would tell you thatPresident Trump is at best

probably racially insensitive.

President Trump has a habitof stoking these racial fires.

Sometimes it seems quite intentional,

other times it seems unwitting.

And this was one of those moments

where for people in the room,

they were just sort of watching him

and listening to him when he was talking

to Ken Blackwell and questioninghis street credibility

and they were just thinking to themselves,

"Gosh, does this guy not know

"how that must sound to a black man?"

- Tim, you discuss evangelical support

for Donald Trump in your book.

Who did you talk to and what did you learn

about this demographicgroup after discussing

their support for President Trump?

- I talked certainly with anumber of grassroots leaders,

Tony Perkins at theFamily Research Council,

Marjorie Dannenfelser withSusan B. Anthony List,

Ralph Reed with the Faith ofFreedom Coalition among others.

But I also talked with a lot of voters

and I talked with a lot offriends and family members.

I grew up in an evangelicalhousehold myself

so I'm familiar with this world.

I think what was importantto understand is that

while many votersrecognize that Donald Trump

himself is transactional,

that there really was atransactional relationship

from evangelicals' perspective as well

because many of them felt as though

Ted Cruz and Marco Rubioand Jeb Bush and others

maybe understood theiruniverse a little bit better

and could speak their language that none

of those folks werenecessarily going to fight

for their values in theway that Donald Trump was.

Which of course is very strange

because Donald Trump doesn't share

their values in many cases.

And plenty of those voters I spoke with

readily were recognizingthat and they said,

"Look, even though he's not one of us,

"even though he doesn'tsit in the pews with us,

"we still think that he iswilling to take the fight

"to the left bothpolitically and culturally

"in a way that none of these other

"established politicians are willing to."

- Last month, there wasa Twitter war of words

among evangelicals aboutchildren at the border

and you tweeted, "There areRussell Moore Christians

"and Jerry Falwell Jr. Christians.

"Choose wisely, brothers and sisters."

Do you really see evangelicalsdivided in just to two camps?

- I have covered the Conservative movement

and Conservative Christianpolitics for about a decade now.

While I do think it'san oversimplification

to just put them in two camps,

to pretend that this isa spiritual dichotomy,

there does seem to be thatfundamental disconnect

between Christians who tend to approach

these policy issues morethrough a traditionally

sympathetic Christian worldview

about caring for the leastamong us versus those

who are viewing it morethrough a political prism

in terms of border crossings,

in terms of refugee numbers,things of that nature.

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- A bill that could haveserious consequences

for religious freedomprotections is making

its way through Congress.

It's called the Do No Harm Act

and if passed wouldstrip away certain parts

of the Religious FreedomRestoration Act or RFRA.

Supporters of the billbelieve the RFRA is often used

as a weapon against women, minorities,

and the LGBTQ communityand that's why they want

to chip away at it.

Religious freedom advocates though

say these protectionsare absolutely necessary

for people of faith tobe able to hold onto

and live out their religious beliefs.

One of those advocates is Matt Sharp

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Matt, good to see you,thanks for being here.

- Thanks for having me on.

- You say the name of thisbill is misleading, Do No Harm.

Why is that?

- As you mentioned thatthis bill would gut

very important religiousfreedom protections

for countless Americans,people of all walks of life,

Christians, Muslims,Jews, and so many others

that throughout the 25 year history

of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

have had the right to freely live out

their faith protectedagainst government efforts

to tell them that they mustviolate their conscience

or do something thatviolates their beliefs.

- Matt, who's pushing thisand what's their motive here?

- The lead sponsor

in the House isRepresentative Joe Kennedy.

They're pushing this ideathat RFRA is harmful,

that it's being used tohurt other individuals

and that's simply false.

For its 25 year history,the Religious Freedom

Restoration Act has beenused to, for example,

protect the freedom ofa Native American boy

to be able to wear his hairlong consistent with his faith.

It's protected health careproviders and individuals

who objected to paying for contraceptions

or abortions or things like that.

And it even helps faith-basedadoption providers be able

to operate consistent with their faith

while helping kids to find a forever home.

We want to make sure that theseprotections are protected.

- What would this look like if it passed?

Can you give some examplesof how people might

negatively be affectedespecially people of faith?

- Absolutely.

One of the examples ofthis would be, again,

take the Little Sisters of the Poor.

They object to paying for contraceptives

and they were able tosucceed in their claim

because of laws like RFRA.

So if the Do No Harm Act was enacted

then Little Sisters of the Poor

and other religious groupsthat don't want to pay

for abortions orcontraceptives would be forced

to do so in violation of their faith.

There's many other examples of how people

of faith would find themselves losing

this important procedural protection

if Do No Harm Act was passed.

- Matt Sharp with ADF, good to see you,

thank you so much again.

- Thank you so much.

- And we'll be right back.

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- And finally tonight, Americacelebrates a milestone:

400 years after the birthplaceof American democracy.

- That's right.

Today in a visit toJamestown the president

commemorated the first meetingof the House of Burgesses

in a small wooden churchin Jamestown, Virginia.

- They came from God and country.

They came in search ofopportunity and fortune

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