Author and speaker Pat Williams discusses his latest book, Character Carved in Stone, about key leadership virtues for all life situations.
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- Well the list of West Point grads
is long and distinguished.
Men such as Eisenhower,Grant, Sherman, and Patton
have all left their markon American history.
And as Pat Williams explains, a big reason
why these names are famous is because
of the virtues they were taught.
- [Narrator] President ofthe NBA's Orlando Magic
and one of America's topmotivational speakers,
believes that leaders with good character
are made, not born.
While speaking at West Point,he came across 12 benches,
each highlighting a core virtue.
In his book, Character Carved in Stone,
Pat Williams shows us how these virtues
can lead to success, notonly on the battlefield,
but in any area of life.
- Well our friend PatWilliams is here with us now.
And we welcome you back to the program,
it's always great to have you here.
- Terry, I'm always thrilled to be here.
I'm so glad to see you.
- Thank you, you too.
See you healthy and back with us,
your color looks good, it'sgreat to have you here.
- Thank you, Terry, thank you.
- Talk a little bit aboutthose 12 core values
that you saw inscribed onthe benches at West Point.
- Well, Terry, first of all,they gave me a nice tour
of the West Point campuswhen I was up there,
and that's a fascinating experience.
- [Terry] I haven't been there,but I hear it's beautiful.
- And we ended up in a littlepark called Trophy Point,
that looks out over thehistoric Hudson River.
And I noticed these benches, 12 of them,
which seemed unusual, but thenwhen I examined them closer,
there was a word, carved into the end
of the bench, the end of the stone.
And the back story was,it was a class gift
from the class of 1934,and these 12 words,
they wanted to inspire cadetsand future military leaders
to live by those words,and to lead by those words,
because everything at West Point
is built around leadership and teamwork.
I mean, when you go to the camp,
you're just imbued with those two words.
And so, I thought boy,this could be a great book,
build a book around those 12 words,
and then find a West Pointgraduate who best modeled
those particular words.- Well, you found several
of them throughout the book.- We did.
Imagine this, this is110th book. (chuckles)
Unbelievable.
Well, you begin the bookwith Ulysses S. Grant,
and I think one of thethings unusual about him
is because not onlywas he a great general,
but you say he was a man of compassion.
You don't normally think of someone
who's been through a really bloody war
as somebody who would necessarily embrace
a compassionate spirit.
- And Terry, and manycalled him Butcher Grant,
because in leading the Union to victory,
he had a lot of men that were killed.
Nevertheless, when youstudy Grant closely,
he was a very tenderhearted man.
He cared deeply about those soldiers.
He had a unique marriage, Imean he had a lovely marriage,
filled with compassion.
And he had great compassion for horses,
just like Pat Robertson does.
But Grant was a horseman, at West Point,
he was a terrific horseman,cared about those animals.
And there was oneexperience during the war,
when he saw one of his soldiers
on the side of the road, just whipping
and beating unmercifully, his horse.
And Grant stopped, he exploded with anger,
which was unusual forhim, and he just told
that soldier, if he eversaw him doing that again
to that animal, there wasgonna be a steep price
that was gonna be paid.
Grant had a real heart for people
and a terrific heart forthose horses, he loved them.
- Well talk, let's jump forwardto someone more contemporary
that everybody's hearingabout these days, Coach K.
I mean, he almost didn't go to West Point.
- That's true, he grew up onthe south side of Chicago.
But Bobby Knight who was in coaching
at West Point, came and recruited him,
and convinced his parents that West Point
would be the best spot for him.
Well, Coach K, who is now 72 years old,
would tell you thathis years at West Point
were absolutely the key to his whole life.
He learned, and thisis where we tie Coach K
in to the word responsibility.
As a young cadet there, helearned about responsibility.
And that has carried forward
all the way though his coaching career.
And another little footnote Terry,
we asked Mike to write the forward
which he immediately agreed to do.
We were so thrilled by that.
He's a West Point guy, Imean through and through.
- Will you talk a little bit, if you will,
about the fact that these are not,
you're talking about thevirtues of compassion,
and responsibility, andcommitment, and all of that,
but these are not innate.
West Point seemed toreally just burn these
into the hearts of thepeople who attended there.
But how does one acquirethese character traits,
it seems in our culture today, Pat,
so many of these are not valued anymore,
or maybe even thought about very much.
- Terry, I don't thinkwe come into the world,
with character, just gushingthrough our bloodstream.
I think it has to be firstof all, taught at home,
parents, grandparents, and then coaches
and teachers, and youth workers, pastors,
we need to be constantlyteaching the importance
of honesty and integrityand responsibility,
and a humble spirit, and awork ethic, and perseverance.
That all has to be taught.
It also is caught, in other words,
if youngsters see thisbeing modeled at home,
they're gonna grow up knowingthis is what life is about.
And this how we're to live our life.
So to say, I'm in this worldnow and my character is set.
And one other note Terry, we never have
a character mastered.
I don't care how old you are.- But that's the truth,
it's a lifelong endeavor, isn't it.
- Every day.
And you can have a slipup, you know, late in life,
and it ruins everythingyou did up to then.
So, we've got to be very, very careful
and alert, to these character issues.
Because they're notburned in there forever.
I think it's a daily walk.
- Talk a little bit about the story
of the 15 year old thatyou closed the book with.
Never attended West Point,and Wang was the name.
What's the value of what he learned?
- Well, he was a young manat Marjory Stoneman School,
and he had a lifelong dream
that he wanted to go to West Point.
But at age 15, he lost his life
in that dreadful shootingin south Florida.
And he never was able to go to West Point.
However, the academy awarded him
a West Point admittance, a spot.
And that's how we close the book.
And Terry, I guaranteeor I make a promise,
that as you read thatlast little epilogue,
if you don't, you get some chill bumps,
or feel a little teary, you know.
You're going to becausethat is how we end the book.
That young man didn'tget to go to West Point,
but in the final analysis,he did go to West Point.
And it's a sad storybut also a moving story.
- Well in the final analysis,
we all have an opportunity to acquire
the kind of charactertraits that you talk about
that are integrated intowhat West Point stands for.
And that's, the book is calledCharacter Carved in Stone,
and it's a read worthy ofyou, worthy of your kids.
It's a great gift, you know, for Easter,
or even the holidays, to beable to give to your kids,
and those that you love.
But thank you, you always bring something,
something thought-worthy and remarkable
when you come.
We appreciate you.
- Well, Terry, I'm always glad to be here,
I have great respect for you.
I always like being around Pat Robertson
who just doesn't yield to life, to age.
- That is such a (laughs)- I mean, he looks better than
ever, and people aregonna enjoy this book.
I think there's some real meatthere for them to chew on.
- Thank you, Pat.
- Thanks, Terry.
- Awesome to have you here.