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- [Announcer] Borderwall battle, the latest

on the lawsuits against the President's

national emergency declaration.

Campaign 2020 is in full swing.

A look at people jumping into the race

and some of the biggest issues

they're expected to face.

And a shocking report on sexual abuse

inside the church.

All this and more tonight on Faith Nation.

(upbeat music)

- The battle over the border wall

is heading to court.

Welcome to Faith Nation, I'm John Jessup.

- And I'm Jenna Browder.

Well 16 states are suing President Trump

over his national emergency declaration.

The declaration helps the President

fund his wall with Mexico.

- And some lawmakersare hoping the lawsuits

will put the brakes onthe commander-in-chief's

plan to free up fundingfor his border wall.

With more on this story, let's go to

White House correspondent, Ben Kennedy,

who's at the North Lawn.

Ben.

- Well John and Jenna,that lawsuit was filed

in US District Courtfor Northern California.

Joining the Golden State was Colorado,

Illinois, New York, New Jersey,

and a handful of other states.

Now they argue the President lacks power

under Constitution to allocate funds

for constructing a wall along the border

because Congress retainsthe spending power.

In the complaint, the states call

President Trump's nationalemergency made up.

Lawmakers agree to 1.4billion in border barriers

to avoid another partialgovernment shutdown.

But President Trumpsaid that's not enough.

The emergency declaration allowed Trump

to tap into funding from other government

agencies to the tune of $8 billion.

He said the barrier will stop the influx

of illegal drugs, gangs,and human traffickers

from crossing into the country.

Today, he doubled down on his remarks

from the Rose Garden last week,

that he predicted thiscase would, in fact,

go to court.

- Well I think I called it exactly, right?

Including the fact thatthey would put them

into the 9th Circuit,

that's where they put them in,

and I think we'll do very well.

We have absolute right to do that.

I have an absolute right

to call national security.

We need strong borders.

We have to stop drugs,and crime, and criminals,

and human trafficking, and we have to stop

all of those things thata strong wall will stop.

- And it is at the beginningof that legal battle

and for a bit of insightinto what's ahead,

I spoke to John Malcolm

with the Heritage Foundation.

Well John, more than adozen states have filed

a lawsuit challenging President Trump's

emergency declaration.

Kind of walk me through how will

this play out in court?

- Sure.

Well actually, therehave been three lawsuits

filed too, here to theDistrict of Columbia

and then California isleading, I think, a group

of 16 states, have filedin Northern California.

So they are challenging the President's

declaration of a national emergency.

We'll have to read these lawsuits,

but they're saying, essentially,

that he didn't have the authority

under the National Emergencies Act.

- Aside from theselawsuits, Congress is also

likely to vote to stopthe emergency declaration.

Is there enough supportto override a veto?

- No, I don't think so.

So I think that hewill, there clearly will

be a majority in theHouse that will support

a joint resolution.

There might be a majority in the Senate,

I think that's probably doubtful, too.

But there might be amajority in the Senate

to pass a joint resolution to nullify

the President's declaration.

The President would vetothis, in all likelihood,

and I don't see the votes there,

two-thirds in the House and Senate

to override that veto.

- So John, bottom line, there are a lot

of factors at play, no doubt.

But how long could this get dragged out?

Is it possible the wall,or what he's calling

a barrier now, won't even begin building

before the 2020 election?

- Well it's possible.

I mean, if one of thesejudges were to enter

a nationwide injunction,preventing the President

from acting, it may be awhile before

that injunction got lifted,

if it ever got lifted.

Again, most of this money did not require

a declaration of a national emergency,

so I'm not quite sure how

a court would deal with that.

But while courts arereluctant to second guess

presidents, with respectto national emergency

or national securityissues, a lot of lower

courts did not show any such reluctance

during the travel ban litigation.

And I suspect there may be some judges

that will be similarly not reluctant

to try and enjoin the President now.

- John, in your professional opinion,

how do you see this playing out?

Do you see the President coming

out on top of this?

- Yes, at the end of the day, I predict

that he likely will, in a court of law.

But I'm not a bettingman and I wouldn't place

any bets on this.

- Said he thinks they will do very well

in the 9th Circuit, calling it an open

and closed case.

John.

- Ben Kennedy at the White House.

Well Bernie Sanders is heading back

to the campaign trail.

The Independent senator from Vermont

making it official today,

he's running for president again.

Sanders lost the Democratic nomination

to Hillary Clinton in 2016,

but says his progressive policy ideas

have gained momentum and gone mainstream.

The senator facedcriticism last time around

for pivoting away fromquestions about racial

issues to hit on the economy instead.

Today's announcement madeclear he is not shying

away from race in his second run.

- Our campaign is aboutredoubling our efforts

to end racism, sexism, homophobia,

religious bigotry,

and all forms of discrimination.

We are running against a president who is

a pathological liar, a fraud, a racist,

a sexist, a xenophobe, and someone who

is undermining Americandemocracy as he leads us

in an authoritarian direction.

Women and men, black, white, Latino,

Native American, Asian American,

gay and straight, young and old,

native-born, and immigrant.

Now is the time for us to stand together.

- Well the race for theDemocratic nomination

is set to be the most diverse in history.

Democratic candidatesare already making bold

declarations about inequality

along racial and ethnic lines.

New Jersey Senator Cory Booker became

the second black senatorto enter the race.

His announcement comingafter California Senator

Kamala Harris launched her campaign

on Martin Luther King Day.

One poll found black voters were 29%

more likely to support black candidates

who made positive racial appeals

as opposed to those who made

no racial appeals at all.

- Well joining us now for more

is Justin Giboney, Founder and President

of The And Campaignand the 2016 Democratic

National Convention delegate.

Justin, thanks for being with us.

- Thanks for having me.

- Well first question, given that the 2020

field of candidates isalready the most diverse

in history, how much ofa factor do you think

race will play in this campaign?

- Oh, it'll play a factor.

I think it'll be played up quite a bit

and just through thehistory of the country,

race has always somewhat been a factor,

so it's gonna be spread out a little bit

because there's not just one candidate

that's an African American

or that's another minority,

but it'll definitely be an issue.

- So when you say it'll definitely

be an issue, how do youthink it'll play out?

- Well I think peopleare asking questions.

They want to know is there something

in the agenda that will speak

to the race problem, that will speak

to disparities and education,

and things of that nature.

So people are gonna beasking those questions.

I think the candidates will be forced

to kind of put out therewhat their thoughts are

and what they plan to do about it.

- Justin, do you think candidates are wise

to kind of play up the race factor

or should they sort of push it to the side

and make other issues more important?

- Yeah, I don't know ifit's wise, necessarily,

to play it up but it should be addressed.

And so I think the policy should say,

"Look, I understand withinthe historical context

"what race has meant in America,

"that there are stilldisparities that need

"to be dealt with."

And so a wise candidate will have policy

that addresses that in one way or another.

- What about the difference, you know,

between Kamala Harris and Cory Booker?

Both African Americans but they're talking

about race prettydifferently, at least, so far.

- Yeah, it seems like Booker's been

a little more strong in how he's addressed

it some ways, a littlemore policy-oriented.

But I think it's so early.

We're gonna get a chance to see exactly

what the differencesbetween those two are.

They're two very smart candidates.

We're gonna see howthey're gonna distinguish

themselves in the coming months,

and so I don't want tojump out there too early.

But yeah, they're certainly started off

a little differently in how they've

spoken about it.

- Justin, final question for you.

What if the nominee ends up being a male

or a non-minority?

Would it be seen as a loss

or a missed opportunityfor the Democratic ticket

given that this WhiteHouse field of hopefuls

is so different from whatwe've seen in the past?

- Yeah, well race matters.

I think at the end of the day,

we have to have the best candidate.

And there are, thankGod, there are qualified

candidates from a lot of different races,

from both sexes, but we have to get

the best candidatebecause there are people

out there suffering.

We need answers and we need the person

who's most qualifiedto be in that position.

So I don't see it as a loss as long as

the best candidate gets in there.

- All right, I knowwe're jumping way ahead

and I know I just said final question,

but given this diversefield of candidates,

is there anyone who you're kind of keeping

an eye out on right now?

- My eyes are on everyone.

I'm looking at everyone's policies,

I'm looking how theyrespond to the questions.

Do they seem to be sincere?

How do they feel about faith issues,

things of that nature?

So my eyes are on everyone.

We haven't cut it down.

It's too soon for all of that, I mean,

everyone's not even in the picture yet.

We don't even know whoall the candidates are,

so we're keeping an eye out on everybody.

- All right.- Fair answer.

- Yeah, fair answer.

Justin Giboney with The And Campaign,

thank you so much, good to see you.

- Thanks for having me.

- Well in other news, President Trump

is calling out Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro.

At a Florida rally Monday night,

the President said the US stands

with interim President, Juan Guaido,

who was appointed by thecountry's legislature.

It contends Maduro stole

the most recent election.

Trump called on Venezuela's military

to back Guaido, and issued a warning

to those who continue to support Maduro.

- If you choose this path, you will find

no safe harbor, no easyexit, and no way out.

You will lose everything.

(crowd cheering)

- And the weeks-longstandoff has only worsened

an already terrible humanitarian

crisis in Venezuela.

Maduro has used the military to block

international aid fromentering the country.

- Well Maduro not only refuses to budge,

he's also blockinginternational relief aid

from entering the country.

Florida senator, Marco Rubio,

flew to neighboring Columbia this week

to put pressure on theVenezuelan strongman.

- CBN Correspondent,Chuck Holton, was there

and has this next story.

- [Chuck] As the tragedythat is Venezuela,

reaches new levels of misery,

nobody's quite sure who's in charge

of the country.

50 nations now recognize Juan Guaido

as the interim president.

But one person,

in particular, strongly disagrees.

That's Nicolas Maduro, the man who's been

running the country since 2013.

But with more than threemillion Venezuelans

having fled theirhomeland, and many of those

left inside literally starving,

here in the border townof Cucuta, Colombia,

tensions along the border are coming

to a head.

American military aircrafthave been arriving

here over the past week, delivering tons

of humanitarian aid intended to ease

the suffering of these Venezuelans.

But troops loyal to Nicolas Maduro,

have so far, blocked the shipments

from entering their country.

Maduro has called theshipments unnecessary

and a political stunt.

But these Venezuelans beg to differ.

(crowd yelling)

- We need help right now.

You know, our people, they're starving,

you know, dying, just waiting for water.

They can't waste any more time.

We need help right away.

Please help, American people.

We need you, we need you!

You know, we begged your help!

- [Chuck] Over the weekend,

a congressional delegationfrom the US arrived

at the border to see the situation,

accompanied by the Colombian ambassador

to the United States,Francisco Santos Calderon.

- Even though the dictator is saying

that this is provocation, the only answer

that we have for him is that this is

an act of love, this isan act of Christianity,

this is an act to show the moral compass

of those who cannot stand by seeing

the suffering of millions

and millions of Venezuelans.

They come across thisbridge dying of hunger,

dying because of lack of medicine.

- [Chuck] Senator Marco Rubio from Florida

was also in attendance.

- Thank you, Marco Rubio!

- What is happening here today,

what is happening in Venezuela,

is a man-made crisis of epic proportions.

Not caused by a natural disaster

but by a man-made one.

A criminal regime thatis willing to starve

and kill its own peoplebefore it gives up power.

- [Chuck] But many of those attending

Sunday worship services across this city,

are clinging to hopefor change in Venezuela,

and praying for peace in the process.

In Cucuta, Colombia, I'm Chuck Holton,

for CBN news.

- Coming up, from pastor to prison.

A shocking story ofabuse within the church

and how to protect against it.

(light music)

Catholic leaders from around the world

will meet in Rome this week as the fallout

continues over decadesof sex abuse scandals.

- But as Amber Strong reports,

they could run into a new storm brewing

inside the church.

- The cloud hangingover the Catholic church

is getting darker.

As a new report reveals,the church produced

secret documents to deal with children

born to priests.

In a statement, a Vatican spokesperson

told the New York Times, "I can confirm

"these guidelines exist.

"It is an internal document."

The sons and daughtersreferred to as children

of the ordained, have been usually kept

out of the public eye.

- When you are hidden,

you are characterized by secrecy.

- What does secrecy do to a child?

- It eats away at their sense of worth.

- [Amber] As one of those hidden children,

Vincent Doyle is now shedding light

and helping those like himself.

His website, Coping International,

provides resources to some 50,000 users.

This latest element is just a part

of the sexual abusescandal the church hopes

to address with this upcoming meeting.

The Protection of Minorsin the Church Conference

will bring together the Pope, bishops from

around the world, and survivors.

- I'm hopeful that thechurch will come out

with direct actions that are going

to keep children safer today

and help survivors to heal.

- Both abuse and this coverup

can no longer be tolerated.

- [Amber] The meeting comes on the heels

of the pontiff's decision to defrock

former Washington DC Archbishop,

Theodore McCarrick.

McCarrick is accused of abusing minors

and seminary students for years.

- The fact that thistakes place on the eve

of the historic summit,is a depressing sign

that it takes bad publicity and a tsunami

of criticism before this pope finally

does the right thing.

- In an attempt to pull back the curtain

of secrecy, the churchplans to stream parts

of that conference onthe web so the public

can judge for itself.

Amber Strong, CBN News, in Washington.

- Well the nation's largest evangelical

denomination is taking steps to address

widespread sexual abuse in its churches

throughout the United States.

During an urgent meetingof the Southern Baptist

Convention leaders Monday, SBC President,

JD Greear announced the possibility

of creating a sexual abuse database

of accused pastors.

This comes after twoTexas newspapers jointly

published a bombshell investigation

that found over the course of two decades,

more than 700 victims suffered

from sexual misconduct or crimes

at the hands of some 400 SBC leaders.

- Well Pastor Jimmy Hinton never suspected

that something evil wasgoing on in his church.

Then he met with a youngwoman who delivered

explosive news that would rock not only

his church, but his own family.

- Heather Sells brings us that story

from Somerset, Pennsylvania.

- [Heather] Clara and John Hinton married

in 1970 at the small Christian college

where they met, and two years later,

they moved east to starttheir dream ministry.

- We were kids when we moved to Somerset,

Pennsylvania, we were 22 years old.

I had prayed from a young child up,

for a Christian husband.

That's all I ever wantedwas a Christian husband

and I wanted to be aChristian wife and mother.

- [Heather] John became pastor

of the Church of Christ, and they went on

to have a large family, 11 children.

- He was very relaxed, and very calm,

very kind, he was great with the kids,

he was their go-to person.

He was my spiritual leader.

We would spend manyhours talking about God,

and our faith.

- [Heather] She and manyothers considered John

to be a super dad.

Their fifth son, Jimmy,

adored his dad and as he grew older,

began to appreciate his ministry.

- I remember sitting in the pews here

and hearing him preach, and hearing

the passion behind it, and he just knew

his Bible really well.

And I just remember thinking,

"I want to be standing up there one day.

"I want to be making a difference

"in the world one day."

- [Heather] Both dreams would come true

but not in the way Jimmy had hoped.

Even as Clara and Jimmy perceived

an ideal family, John Hinton kept

a double life hidden thatneither ever suspected.

Although Clara didstruggle to understand some

of his behavior.

- He would just do off-the-wall things.

For instance, he would be preaching

and do really weird, weird things.

He threw a lit firecrackerin the auditorium

one morning, and like,

"Why do you do this stuff?"

- [Heather] Another time,one of their daughters

found him locked in his office

looking at pornography.

He later said he was doing sermon prep.

But one of his victims was growing up

and at age 20, realizednot only had Hinton

abused her, he was likely abusing others.

That victim was Hinton'syoungest daughter.

- I saw this picture of my dad touching me

in an inappropriate way, but it was one

of those things that I would like try

to play it off like,"Oh, he wouldn't actually

"do that to me.

"Maybe it was an accident.

"Maybe I'm not rememberingsomething correctly,"

or yeah, I just kepttrying to brush it off.

- [Heather] But when heasked her to help him

babysit, she could no longer brush it off.

- One of the kids had said that she loved

spending the night at his house.

And she had asked him that day,

"Are we spending the nightat your house tonight

"Mr. John, and can we sleep in your bed?"

- [Heather] Alex began to research

and discovered her dad matched the profile

of an abuser and she matched the profile

of a victim.

But should she tell?

After weeks of indecision,she went to her mom.

- At that moment, it was like a million

light bulbs went offbecause so many little

fragments of things that happened,

all along the years.

- [Heather] It became clear that they must

tell Jimmy, son, brother,and current pastor

of the church.

Alex made an appointment to meet him.

- It just takes the breath away from you.

And I looked up, and she was crying,

and I started to cry.

I said, "I believe you."

And I think she needed to hear that.

And the way I describeit is I really think

that was the Holy Spiritputting those words

on my lips in thatmoment, because I really

think she had to hear that.

- [Heather] That very weekend, Jimmy had

to officiate a church wedding

with his father present.

He found it excruciating to keep

this news secret, but the next decision,

whether to report his dad to authorities,

came much easier.

- You had so much to lose by reporting it,

I mean--

- Yes, I had everything to lose.

- So why was that a snap decision for you?

- Because I had to know,I had to know the truth.

And reporting it andhaving it investigated

by professionals, wasthe only way that we were

gonna find out the truth.

- [Heather] Police charged Hinton

with 200 counts, including rape of a child

and indecent assault of a child.

His sentence, a minimumof 30 years behind bars.

His family never expects to see him again,

but seven years later, is still working

through what happened.

Jimmy remembers thecommunity's early misplaced

sympathy for his dad.

- When he got arrested, they would ask me,

"How's your dad doing?

"How's your dad doing?"

And at first, I would answer it

and I would be polite.

But then after awhile, I just thought,

"Not one person has asked

"how my dad's victims are doing."

And so I started to answer people.

I'd say, "Well he's doing fine.

"It's his victims who aren't doing well."

- [Heather] Alex has traveled a road

that is not uncommon for abuse victims

of spiritual leaders.

She stopped attendingchurch and has no desire

to go back to her faith.

- I don't like the idea of God

as a fatherly being, clearly.

If that's who He is,He wasn't there for me.

If my dad was supposedto be someone who was

spreading His word, that'snot the case at all.

- As Jimmy Hinton has said,

"The devil got inside our family

"and none of us saw it."

But today, Hinton, hismother, and his sister

are seeing much more clearly,

and they want other families in churches

to know that sometimes,someone close to you

is an abuser.

Today, the Church ofChrist has new measures

to protect kids.

Each classroom has a lock

to keep empty rooms empty.

And church policy protects children

from potentially unwanted contact.

- None of us can walk upto a kid, pull a kid in,

and initiate that physical contact.

And I think that's really important

because abusers verysubtly initiate physical

contact and that's how they begin,

what people call the grooming process.

- [Heather] Boz Tchividjian founded

the non-profit, Grace, to help churches

think through abuse.

"Many," he says, "arequick to believe abusers."

- What you'll often seeis an abuser responding

to an allegation in a way that spins

a narrative that they'rethe actual victim.

And then, what ends up happening over

the time period, isthe people around them,

the people that are naturally,

would gravitate towardswanting to support them

anyway, buy in to that narrative.

And now, the abuser is the victim,

the victim, now, is seen as sort

of the perpetrator, theone causing the problems.

- [Heather] Tchividjian says churches will

be best prepared toprevent abuse and respond

to it, if they've taken the time

to create a policy.

Such plans help church members know what

to report and to whom,

and they help leaders respond.

Clara and Jimmy nowcohost a podcast designed

to share what they've learned.

They want others to know how easy it is

to be fooled.

- What's interesting, in a sad, sad way,

is he preached about such things,

about being harmful to children,

and he was this great dad.

It was like he's two people.

He was this wonderful, loving, kind man

and he was one of the most evil, vile men

that ever was.

- And that was Heather Sells reporting.

Well if you or someone you know has been

a victim of sexual assault, we invite you

to go to our website, cbnnews.com.

There you will find alist of organizations

you can contact for help, including the

National Sexual Assault Hotline,

which will connect youwith trained counselors

in your area.

We'll be right back.

A powerful winter storm is making its way

across the country.

- That's right.

39 states, including every state east

of the Mississippi, will be hit

with snow, sleet, ice, rain,

and possible floodingin the next few days.

From the Midwest to Mid-Atlantic,

more than 100 million people are expected

to be affected by the winter weather.

Folks from Omaha, Nebraskaup toward Minneapolis,

are bracing for the brunt of the storm,

with winter weather alerts stretching all

the way from Arizona to New Jersey.

- That's when you say,

"Thanks a lot, Punxsutawney Phil."

- That's right.

He clearly got it wrong.

Well that's gonna do it

for tonight's Faith Nation.

- Have a great evening.

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