CBN News interviews US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman. Friedman addresses the historic US Embassy move; the peace plan and evangelical support for the Jewish state. Plus a look at why Airbnb is de-listing Jewish homes in the biblical heartland.
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- This week on Jerusalem Dateline,
CBN News exclusive interviewwith President Trump's envoy,
U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman.
Friedman addresses the historicmove of the U.S. Embassy,
the long awaited peace planand why evangelical support
is so important to the Jewish State.
Plus, we'll take a look at why Airbnb
chose to eliminate it'slisting of Jewish homes
in the Biblical heartland.
Hello and welcome to thisedition of Jerusalem Dateline,
I'm Chris Mitchell.
U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman
discussed a number of pressingissues in the region with me,
the upcoming peace plan ofthe Trump administration,
the danger of Iran andthe changing politics
in the Middle East andwhy evangelical support
is so important to Israel.
Take a look.
Only one U.S. ambassador inhistory holds the distinction
of serving in Israel's capitalJerusalem, David Friedman.
Now he sits at theepicenter of the Middle East
going through historic changes,a much needed peace plan
and as we found out,unprecedented relations
between the two allies.
- The Trump administration
is the most supportive administration
in regards to Israel in American history.
And I think that's helpedIsrael in direct ways.
- [Chris] A widely anticipated peace plan
remains shrouded in secrecy,although Friedman explained
one of it's guiding principles.
- Nobody should be asked totake incremental security risks
in pursuit of somethingthat is yet to bear fruit.
So we're very cognizant ofIsrael's security needs.
- The new regional alliancesthat seem to be emerging
between Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States,
Jordan, Egypt and Israel, isthat part of the calculation?
- It's all opening up and Ithink it's just beginning.
I think that environment I think
creates opportunity and I thinkit gives the Israeli public
some confidence thatthey're not being asked
to jump into an empty pool.
- Another marker of theTrump administration
is change.
During his address at thestart of the Jewish New Year,
Ambassador Friedman talked about slaying
some of the sacred cowsof the peace process,
like defended UNWRA, the right of return
and the so-called pay to slay,
rewarding terrorists and their families.
One other aspect it seemsto be over the peace plan
is the relationship withPalestinian businessmen
and Israeli businessmen and some would say
you crossed the red line whenyou went to the green line
in Ariel for the first time officially.
What was the importance of that meeting?
- On a practical levelI met with, I don't know
eight or 10 Palestinian business leaders
and to a person, what they all said to me
is let's do business, let'sget going, let's do some work.
We wanna work with Jews, wewanna work with Israelis.
- [Chris] Yet, overshadowing
any Middle East peace plan is Iran.
- Iran is the danger.
Iran, right now is the leadinginternational state sponsor
of terrorism.
- [Chris] Friedman noted thatnew sanctions against Iran
will make a difference.
- They're extraordinaryand I think they are going
to ultimately put the Iranian government
in a position where theycan end this malign activity
or they won't and thesanctions will continue
and ultimately I believetheir regime will fail.
- [Chris] We also talkedabout why evangelical support
is so important to Israel.
- It strengthens the President's resolve
to I think, be the bestpresident Israel has ever had.
- [Chris] An observant Jew,Friedman often sees his role
through the lens of scripture
and showed me a constantreminder of how he hopes to serve
as ambassador, a paintingof the sin of the ten spies
from the Book of Numbers.
- I've got this painting to remind me
that the one sin I hope notto commit while I'm here
is the sin of the spies notto have faith, confidence
and vision, I thinkthose are the qualities
that really are essential forme to do my job the right way.
- [Chris] And as a diplomat,Friedman sees God at work.
- I try to look at everything from a lens
of what is best for the United States.
That's my job, I representthe United States.
Look, we are a nation under God,
we're built on Judeo-Christian values
and much as I try I cannot help
but see the majesty of God's work,
the miracles that happenin this incredible country.
- We'll have more ofour exclusive interview
with Ambassador Friedmanlater in Jerusalem Dateline.
But first, a number ofJewish-American citizens
who own property in Israel havefiled a civil rights lawsuit
against Airbnb alleging
that the internet hospitality company
enacted a new policy thatdiscriminates against them
based on their religion.
The suit came after Airbnb
decided it would no longerlist Jewish vacation homes
in Biblical Judea andSamaria or the West Bank.
Some are even callingthe boycott anti-Semitic.
This is Villa Herodion in Tekoa,
about 15 minutes south of Jerusalem.
Owned by American IsraeliLewis Weinger and his family,
it's one of some 200 properties affected
by Airbnb's West Bank boycott.
The Weinger's host eventsand can sleep up to 14 people
in their luxurious home.
It has a spectacularview of the Judean hills
and it's listed onAirbnb but not for long.
- I mean, it's crazy, itjust doesn't make any sense
that I can't list my propertybut Mohammad down the street
in Bethlehem can list hisproperty and call it Palestine.
- [Chris] Airbnb operates in 191 countries
and 81,000 cities but itsaid in a press release
when we applied ourdecision making framework,
we concluded that weshould remove listings
in Israeli settlementsin the occupied West Bank
that are at the core of the dispute
between Israelis and Palestinians.
- It's obviously takinga political position
that I believe isdiscriminatory and anti-Semitic.
- I think our reaction should be
that we should boycott Airbnb.
Anybody that cares aboutIsrael, the Jewish people
is willing to fight against anti-Semitism,
should fight against Airbnb.
- [Chris] Israeli governmentMinister, Michael Oren
says the Airbnb boycottcould be just the beginning.
- It sends a signal thatnot just to Jewish companies
in Judea-Samaria can beboycotted but the Jewish State
can be boycotted.
And we've known throughouthistory that waves
of anti-Semitism most recentlythe Nazi anti-Semitism
of the 1930's, 1940's began with a boycott
of Jewish goods, this is the way it began.
- Airbnb's policy discriminatesgrossly against people
of the Jewish faith and peopleof the Jewish ethnicity.
They treat Jews living in the West Bank
different from any other group.
- [Chris] Professor Eugene Kontorovich
said out of the whole world,
Airbnb chose to make a point here.
- There is indeed a politicaldispute about the West Bank
but they're not sayingwe're not taking listings
from the West Bank, they'resaying we're not taking listings
from Jews in the West Bank.
That's not just a double standard,
that's naked discrimination.
- [Chris] Weinger'sneighbor Rabbi Eitan Levi
explained the Jewish roots of the area.
- Tekoa itself was thehome of the prophet Amos
and in the ninth chapter of Amos
it says God will returnhis people to Israel,
they will rebuild their conquered cities.
They will sink downtheir roots and nevermore
be uprooted from the land.
And right here you cancome to the modern Tekoa
and here we are, we're livingout those prophecies today.
- For now Weinger says he doesn't know
what impact being unlisted
on Airbnb will have on his business
but whatever happens Levisays God will provide.
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Up next, Ambassador Friedmantalks about the historic move
of the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem
and the state of U.S.-Israel relations.
Here's more of our exclusiveinterview with U.S. Ambassador
to Israel, David Friedman.
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Ambassador Friedman it'sso great to be with you
and thank you for beingwith us on CBN News, yeah.
- It's my pleasure, thank you.
- May 14th, 2018, would youtake us back to that day
and what did that mean for theUnited States and for Israel?
- Well, I think first and foremost
it was the day that Ithink the United States
put itself on the right side of history.
I would suggest maybe youraudience might agree with me,
put itself on the right side of God.
It was the day that we recognized really
one of the great historicaltruths of our time
that Israel has Jerusalem as it's capital,
has always had Jerusalem as it's capital.
People mention to me in that context
over around that period oftime, what's the big deal,
everybody knows Jerusalemis the capital of Israel,
isn't it just symbolic?
And the answer is just the opposite.
The fact is that everybodyrecognized Jerusalem
as the capital of Israel.
Three presidents recognizedJerusalem as the capital
of Israel, Congress recognizedJerusalem as the capital
of Israel by overwhelming majorities
but don't do anything about it.
And when something is trueand you fail to recognize
an obvious truth, that failureit could be very debilitating
from the perspectiveof your foreign policy.
So President Trump closedthe deal, he sided with truth
and I think that decisionhas now resonated
throughout his foreign policyin all kinds of directions,
it's I think strengthenedus with regard to Iran,
North Korea, other maligninfluences in the world
and I think it was just
an extraordinarily importantdecision for the United States.
- And in a few days, we'recoming up on the anniversary
of December 6th, 2018,the one year anniversary
when he recognized Jerusalemas Israel's capital.
Did you see that as apivotal moment as well?
- Well, I think that was the first step,
it was in order to movethe embassy to Jerusalem,
you had to recognize thatJerusalem was the capital.
Look, it should have beendone a long time ago.
That recognition is foundin the Jerusalem Embassy
after 1995 and I think it was a set back
for the United Statesto have waited so long
and by the same token it was I think
an enormous accomplishmentby the Trump administration
to correct what really hadbeen an unjustifiable slight.
- And how would you describeU.S.-Israel relations two years
after President Trumphas taken over office?
- I think they're at alevel that's unprecedented
whether it's commercialrelations, intelligence sharing,
military cooperation, I thinkjust sort of the feeling
that Israelis have for theirsupport from the United States.
The Trump administration
is the most supportiveadministration with regards to Israel
in American history.
And I think that's helpedIsrael in direct ways
from, as I mentioned the direct contacts
but also I think it'sgiven Israel a stature
with regard to it's neighbors,with regard to the region
that I think enables itto branch out in ways
that we really haven't seen before.
So I think we're seeingextraordinary things happening
with regard to Israeland they're all positive.
- What lessons from the Bible do you apply
to being an Ambassador of Israel?
- Well, the primary lesson I would think
is on the paintingthat's right behind you.
It's a painting with regardto the sin of the spies
who came back after spyingon the land of Israel
and told Moses with the exception of two,
the exception of Joshua and Caleb,
the other 10 said we justcan't conquer this land.
And God considered it to be a great sin
that the spies didn't havethe confidence and the faith
and the courage to believein him and to go forward
and so to me the greatBiblical lesson to me
is that I will, I have nodoubt I've committed many sins
in the past, I'll commitmany more in the future
but the one sin I hope notto commit while I'm here
is the sin of the spies, which is the sin
of not having faith or visionor courage or confidence
in God's will and thedirections of the President,
I think we're on the right track.
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- Coming up, Ambassador Friedman
talks about why evangelical Christians
mean so much to Israel.
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Here's what Ambassador Friedman had to say
about the support ofevangelical Christians.
You referred to our viewers earlier,
millions of evangelicalChristians really see Israel
as maybe their number one issue.
What do you say and whatwould President Trump say
about the support of evangelicalChristians for Israel
and for your stand on Israel?
- Well, look, I think thatthe support for Israel
is a principal decision
but when you have a principal decision
that also has the benefitof being supported
by a mass of 50, you knowbetter than me the number
but a large number ofmillions of believers
of evangelical Christians,
it really strengthens the decision.
It strengthens the President's resolve
to I think be the bestPresident Israel has ever had.
So I think Israelis across the spectrum
have great appreciation and gratitude
to the evangelical community.
- And you said Israel is a very country,
you think there's thingsthat the American people
don't know about Israelbecause they're not being told
about it in the media?
- I think there's lots of things
that they don't know about Israel.
One of the most important things
is just in practical terms howimportant an ally Israel is
to the United States.
Without going into detailsthere are numerous events,
dangerous events, terror eventsthat were threatened against
the American homeland on American soil
that Israelis, Israeliintelligence help to prevent.
The Israelis do a lot for us.
We do a lot for them andmaybe a generation ago
the relationship was more one sided
where America was more of the giver
and Israel was the taker.
The relationship hasgrown much more reciprocal
over the last generation andIsrael is a very important ally
to the United States with regard
to keeping Americans safe at home.
- A lot of people areinterested in the peace plan
that the President, youhad been part of that.
I know you pushed back, perhaps yesterday
about the White Householding back the timing.
Could you tell us a littlebit about the possible timing
and about general principals perhaps,
I know you can't go intodetails about the peace plan.
- Well, look, in terms of the timing,
you know they say timingis everything in life
and we really need to getto a point where we feel
that we have something whichwill get the best possible
reception from across thespectrum of all the players,
obviously the Israelisand the Palestinians
and the regional players as well
and we're working on it, we'rehaving ongoing conversations
and so I think we justneed to kind of hit it
at the right time andwith the right message
and we'll get there butwe're not there just yet.
- The new regional alliancesthat seem to be emerging
between Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States,
Jordan, Egypt and Israel isthat part of the calculation?
- Well, it is, surebecause I think this all,
this is a small area andan interconnected area
and I think theopportunities that Israel has
are much greater just asthe risks have changed,
the opportunities are also much greater.
Look, you saw they playedHatikvah in Abu Dhabi
a couple weeks ago whenthe Judo championships,
the prime minister visited Oman.
There's relationships with Bahrain,
the Prime Minister of Chadarrived at Israel yesterday.
It's all opening up.
And I think it's just beginning
and I think that environmentI think creates opportunity
and I think it gives theIsraeli public some confidence
that they're not being askedto jump into an empty pool.
- You mentioned in thisyear's Rosh Hashanah speech,
three things, you mentionedIran, the United States
pulling out of the deal.
I think you mentionedslaying the sacred cows
of the calcified thinking
of the peace process and Jerusalem.
In terms of Iran, how important is that,
what danger does itpose to Israel, the U.S.
and even the world?
- Well, I think Iran it is the danger,
I mean, there are others as well
and I don't wanna leak out others,
North Korea is certainly dangerous,
Russia is certainlydangerous but Iran right now
is the leading internationalstate sponsor of terrorism
and it's tentacles are reaching
throughout the Middle East into Europe.
See now there were recentlysome terrorist attacks
that Iran had applauded on European soil
that Israelis were ableto get out in front of.
So we have to stop that andit's not just nuclear weapons,
although nuclear weapons isobviously the significant part
of it but it's ballistic weapons,
it's general malign activity,it's this adventurism
that's created a conflict inYemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon.
It all has to stop and the sanctions
that we've imposed andthey're just kicking in now.
We're now really in thesecond full week of those
or the third full week of those sanctions,
they're extraordinary and I think
they are going to ultimatelyput the Iranian government
in a position where theycan end this malign activity
and their adventurism andtheir nuclear ambitions
in favor of their own people or they won't
and the sanctions will continue
and ultimately I believetheir regime will fail.
But I think that we're in anextraordinarily strong position
right now with Iran and based upon
what I've learned sinceI've had this position
I can tell you that the Iran deal,
as bad as I thought it was whenI was outside the government
with the benefit of what I know now
and the benefit of a yearor two of observations
of the post-deal environment,
boy was that a terrible dealand thank God the President
was able to get us out of it.
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- Up next, President Trump, King Cyrus
and the Jewish people.
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Outside the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem,
Ambassador Friedman told me
how he sees President Trump's relationship
to the Jewish people.
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Ambassador what does it mean for you
when you come out here andtake a look at the plague?
- Well, it's kind of overwhelming,
I walk past here and seemy name inscribed here.
Of course it's the thirdname behind the President
and the Vice President andthey deserve all the credit
for this but it issomething to see your name
on something so historical.
So it's deeply meaningful to me
and I just can't imaginebeing prouder of anything else
other than my kids.
- What was that day like, May 14th, 2018?
- It was an interesting day
because apart from allthe things that you saw
from being here, all ofa sudden I'm a producer
of a live television show.
- That's right.
- So I had to worry about things like,
when they pull the curtainhere is it gonna open.
- [Chris] Exactly.
- [David] And the daybefore it didn't open.
- [Chris] Oh really.
- [David] Yeah, we had a so light,
said, listen get somebody up there
to make sure this thing opens, you know.
We only get a chance to do it once.
- [Chris] Sure.
- So sure we had a lot oflogistics to worry about
but I thought it came off really nice,
I was really happy with it
and of course it was deeplymoving from start to finish.
- Prime Minister Netanyahuon that day said,
we're living history, didyou have that sense as well?
- Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah,
but I'm living history everyday.
May 14th was an amazing day
but I try to make everyday like that
and not take it for granted
and try to do somethingproductive everyday.
Can't always be opening an embassy
but there's as I saidearlier there's a lot to do
and we try to make everyday count.
- You feel like you're making progress?
- I do, yeah, I thinkwe're on the right track.
- And it was almost formany people it felt like,
at least Israelis talk aboutPresident Trump is King Cyrus.
- I think what he didwas incredibly historic
and it took tremendous courage.
I was with him as hewas making the decision
as he was getting advice from others,
as he was hearing from world leaders,
the pressure on him not to do this,
the pressure on him tojust keep the status quo
was tremendous and I sawit first hand the courage
and the strength andconviction that he had
in making this decision.
So I certainly don't thinkthat comparison is overstated.
He deserves everything that I think people
appreciate him for.
- It was an honor to sitdown with Ambassador Friedman
and please pray for thisGodly man as he serves
in a very strategic rolefor such a time as this.
Well, that's all for thisedition of Jerusalem Dateline.
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I'm Chris Mitchell,we'll see you next time
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