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CBN NewsWatch PM: November 23, 2018

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- [Announcer] This is CBN Newswatch.

- And thank you so much for joining us

for this special edition ofCBN Newswatch as we continue

with our theme healing the divide.

I'm Efrem Graham.

Political divisions aregrowing wider across America.

One author says it's givingbirth to a new age of outrage.

In a book, Ed Stetzerencourages Christians

to bring their best whenthe world is at its worst.

Charlene Aaron has this story.

- [Charlene] Signs ofincivility and outrage abound.

- [Crowd] Be survivors.

- [Charlene] From our nation'scapital where protestors,

angry over the Kavanaughconfirmation process,

jam Senate hallways andinterrupted CBN News' coverage

of the demonstrations.

- Well today has beenone of the rowdiest days

during the hearing both insidethe hearing room and outside.

The hearing began with the first hour.

It was just very intensebetween the senators.

- [Charlene] Too collegecampuses where last year,

rioters virtually took over Berkeley

because they wanted to stop a commentator

from the conservative right barred website

from speaking on campus.- Seems that we're in a time

when people are increasinglyat odds with one another

and it's an outrageoustime with a lot of anger.

- In his new book, Christiansin the Age of Outrage,

speaker and author Ed Stetzer points out

our country's deepdivisions hoping the church

can bring about healingbut before that can happen,

he says the church most focus on itself.

- I think one of the thingsthat has been important

to note in the last few years is that

that sometimes the political divisions

has actually gotten into the church

in a way that maybe it hasn't in the past.

- Stetzer says Christians cancounter the growing outrage

we see in our culture today simply

by exercising greaterspiritual discipline.

- My desire is we mightact in love and listen

and speak more like Jesuswould in these situations.

- [Charlene] Stetzer whois also the Billy Graham

distinguished chair of church, mission,

and evangelism at Wheaton College,

an executive director ofthe Billy Graham Center,

says social media is abig part of the problem.

He says Christians can hurt their witness

by not properly engagingdebates on hot topic issues

such as gay marriage or politics.

He offers a road map tonavigating online conversations.

- We can be in an evangelical echo chamber

where everyone sort of thinks like we do

and then we're shocked to find out

people have a differentworldview and they do

and we actually found in our research

that evangelicals arevery likely to mute people

or block people who disagree with them

and so you're neverhearing different views.

So we have almost an undiscipled approach

to social media that'salienating our neighbors

and building sometimes even divisions

between Christians andwhat we're calling for

in Christians of the Age ofOutrage is a change to that,

a more thoughtful, biblical,spirit filled approach

that ultimately engagesculture more effectively.

- [Charlene] He goes on toencourage evangelicals Christians

to model the message of the gospel.

- And so the question iswe have to make choices.

How do we speak up for what's right,

but also how do we showand share the love of Jesus

in the midst of the brokenness?

And I think our research shows

that people are sayingwe've gotta see a shift

in the way we ultimately engage culture.

The division is not helping anybody

and the long term harmingthe witness of the gospel.

- [Charlene] He saysthe best way to do that

is through proper discipleship.

- I actually used tolisten to a political show,

but I found that I couldn't pray

for the president at the timeand listen to that person

because I got so riled upand so what I had to do is

in my own discipleship,through spiritual discipline,

I had to say that's shapingme in a way that leads me away

from what actually thebible calls me to do.

So I quit listening to that program,

kept praying for that president,

kept speaking up aboutthings that mattered to me,

but I was more discipled by my bible

and in the promptings ofthe holy spirit than I was

by the radio program or today it might be

the cable news program that I'm watching.

- [Charlene] Meanwhilein this current culture,

Stetzer challenges Christiansto intentionally live in a way

that makes the gospel more appealing.

- I don't know that Christians can solve

all the outrage issues.

I think the culture has just gone.

Its turned up the volume to 11,

and it's just going all in on the outrage.

So what I would say is we need

to show a counterculture message.

The gospel's always beencounter cultural, right.

Its always shown a different way.

When the world's running this way,

the scriptures teach you a different way.

Jesus calls us to a better way.

So I think the betterway is not to join in

and turn up the outrage volume,

but instead to enter in all on mission.

- [Charlene] Charlene Aaron,CBN News, Wheaton, Illinois.

- [Man] There's not only apolitical divide in our country,

there's a racial divide as well.

Coming up how two churches,one largely black,

one largely white come together.

(bright music)

- The author in our last segment said

that Christians need to lead the way

if we're ever going to seehealing in this age of outrage.

That is certainly true ofthe racial divide as well.

Now we first broughtyou this story in 2016,

not long after violentprotest rocked the city

of Charlotte, North Carolina.

Here again is Charlene Aaron.

- [Charlene] NorthCarolina's Refuge Church

and House of Refuge came up with a plan

to help change Charlotte's reputation

from one of racial unrestto one of brotherly love.

Pastors Jay Stewart and DerrickHawkins felt the best way

to bring blacks and whitestogether started with worship.

The result.

This first service of thenewly blended Refuge Church.

Pastor Stewart leads the main campus

of the multi site church.

- And the cry of our hearthas always been for revival

and the Lord cannot bring the outpouring

of his holy spirit unlessthere's real unity.

- [Charlene] Hawkinspastors the 200 member

House of Refuge in Greensboro,

which recently joined the larger group.

Two years ago when Hawkins became pastor,

he reached out to Stewart for advice.

After a series of meetings,

the two men explored thepossibility of becoming one church.

- Nobody was looking for a merger.

I just wanted to help this church

in Greensboro to transition well

and so we were meeting on a regular basis

and a year ago which was November of 2015

while we were meeting Ifelt strongly prompted

by the holy spirit to ask them a question.

Have you ever had conversations

about becoming a campus of The Refuge.

- We would have meetingsand talk about racism

and what we both had to endure coming up.

He would share his stories.

I would share my stories.

- The pastors here at The Refuge say

that the announcementabout their merger came

just two days beforeviolent protests erupted

in the city of Charlotte, North Carolina

after an African American man was killed

at the hands of police.

- When I was sitting in myhome watching the news coverage

of what was happening in Charlotte,

that God wanted to write a better story.

That God set the timing of this merger.

- I know that African Americancommunity are hurting.

They're crying out.

We just wanted to be avoice, a vehicle of change

in our own city, in ourcommunity to say hey,

it doesn't have to be this way.

- [Charlene] BishopWilliam and Darlene Allen

are the founding membersof the House of Refuge.

During the process of appointingHawkins as new pastor,

the talks of a merger began.

- What this says to me is Godhas given us an opportunity

to let the baggage go and Ibelieve this merger is going

to present that opportunity for many of us

to heal from past hurt, all races.

- [Charlene] The plan to holdregular combined services

will help members get to know one another

and work toward racial healing.

- I just believe that whatwe're doing is so needed

to replicate what the Lord wants to do

in the kingdom of God.

- That's good.

There's a generationthat wants to be valued

and I just saw it as an opportunity

to say you matter toGod, you matter to us,

and God has a plan for your life.

- [Charlene] Members areexcited about working together.

- I think it just declares truth

in the midst of a lot of lies

that there is a church andshe is taking her place

and is committed to unity and love.

- With what we're goingthrough as a nation

and especially here in Charlotte,

I think that it just speaks of the unity

of the kingdom of God andjust gives us a real picture

of what heaven's gonna be like.

- [Charlene] Anthony White says seeing

blacks and whites worshipingtogether here is long overdue.

- Integration should never be forced.

It should be by lead bythe spirit of the Lord

and the church has anexample to model that today.

- [Charlene] Meanwhile PastorsStewart and Hawkins admit

that while comingtogether hasn't been easy,

the result is well worth it.

- We knew that the staffwas facing challenges.

Our church was facing challenges,

but we knew what God told us,

and we just stuck to what the Lord say,

what we felt like the holyspirit was leading us.

- There were people sitting in the wings

we know that our stillhoping that this fails.

- Yeah.

- That this doesn't work,for whatever reason,

but we know it's gonna work

because listen, we don'tsee black and white.

Under the blood ofJesus, everything's red.

- [Charlene] Charlene Aaron, CBN News,

Kannapolis, North Carolina.

- [Man] Still ahead, a USSenator who says our smartphones

and iPads are to blame for the toxic soup

of anger and isolation in our country.

- There's something wrong withAmerica and we all know it,

but what is causing our unhappiness,

anger, and toxic divisions?

Senator Ben Sasse believes our crisis

isn't really about politics,

it's about the isolationand loneliness caused

by all of our technology.

He writes about it ina new book called Them,

Why We Hate Each Other and How to Heal.

Take a look.

- Well joining me now isSenator Ben Sasse of Nebraska.

Senator, thank you somuch for being with us.

- Good to be here, John.

- We're here to talk about your book,

Them Why We Hate EachOther and How to Heal,

so I think we should probablystart off with the title.

Why do we hate each other?

- I think we're meantto be relational beings.

God created us to love our neighbor

and to be involved inprojects with other people

and unfortunately most of the good tribes,

the local tribes, the placesthat make people happy.

Do you have a family?

Do you have a few deep friendships?

Do you have meaningful work?

Do you have a church?

Do you have a local worshiping community?

All of those places arekind of being undermined

by the digital revolution.

So place is tied to whereyou're raising your kids.

Your deep friendships are about a place.

Your church is in a community.

Your work is usually toa specific geography.

As all those things getundermined, people are lonely.

I think there's aloneliness epidemic among us

and right now we're filling in,

a lot of Americans arefilling in political tribalism

as the sort of backupplan for failed tribes

that are going to these bad tribes,

which are political addictions,

and they tend to be anti-tribes.

What are you against ratherthan what you're for.

- How does social media factor in?

I think social media wasmeant to connect people,

but in many different ways it seems like

it's maybe having a reverse effect.

- I think so, too.

I think when social media is used

to augment relationships you already have,

it can be really great.

I'm relatively active on Twitter,

but I think of it as an audience

of a bunch of buddies I had from college

that we live in different geographies now

but we pray for each other's families.

We're raising our kids.

Separate from our other friends,

but we sometimes travel with them,

and we use social media asa way to stay connected.

When you're adding to relationships

that are already embodied,people that you know,

social media can be great.

If you're using socialmedia as a substitute

for knowing the person two doors down

from you in your neighborhood,it's a really bad thing,

'cause social media doesn't ultimately

give you lasting relationships.

- You just mentioned tribalism,

which factors into thefact that many people like

to associate with peoplewho think like they do

or look like them but that exposes

and sets us up for other problems

with building animosity and anger

and not just that butmisunderstanding of those

who don't share similar valuesor who don't look like us.

- I think that's true.

When you live in a community with people

you know them to be a whole person, right.

I have a lot of identities.

I'm a Christian, I'm a dad, I'm a husband,

I'm a Nebraska footballaddict, I'm a conservative.

- [Interviewer] We'll forgiveyou for that last one.

- Missouri's good at a lot of things,

but we can talk some football.

So, you got a whole bunchof different identities.

I serve in the senate for a time.

I'm a republican.

But you don't wanna get thoseidentities out of order.

You don't wanna warp it.

I love Husker football but if I use

my Cornhusker football addiction

as an excuse to neglect my kids,

there's something wrong with me.

I'm the dad before I'ma Husker football fan.

I'm a Christian before I'm a republican.

And one of the things thathappens on social media

is you tend to reduce peopleto the one conversation

you're having at thatmoment and a lot of people,

a lot of Christians arespending way too much time

doing sort of rage on social media

because you disagreewith somebody's politics.

Well that person you're yelling at

because you disagreeon legislative strategy

or legislative or policy priorities,

they're somebody createdin the image of God

and you're meant to lovethem as a whole person.

- How does that bode for you?

You continually talk about howyou identify as a Christian,

but when you see howpeople treat each other,

whether it's in person orwhether it's at rallies

or over social media andthey identify as Christians,

I mean how does thatcomport with your faith

and how you view living out your faith?

- Yeah, so I differ with democrats

on really important policy matters,

but my disagreement with a democrat

about whether or not the minimum wage

will actually help poorpeople, I don't think it will.

I think it'll cause a wholebunch of jobs to be lost

to automation if you raisethe minimum wage too high.

That's a debate thatpeople can reasonably have,

but that's not a coreidentity issue for me

and it shouldn't be for any Christian,

and so I wanna work really hard

to treat my neighborin a debate as somebody

who has an eternal souland that God created,

and that if I debate thisperson on a policy issue,

I wanna make sure it doesn'tcompromise my witness

to still love them asa person well outside

and well beyond thisparticular policy debate.

- I don't think you could'vesaid that any better.

What about the cable news networks?

We live in a 24 hour news cycle

and you see people on the right

and the left just kindof watching the networks

that kind of identifywith how they believe,

but how does that factorinto the atmosphere

in the environment we have today?

- Yeah, right now there are benefits

to modern technology to be clear.

There are a whole bunchof things that are great

about having access to 500 channels.

93% of American households now have access

to 500 or more channels.

In the 1950s, you had three channels

and you better hope you liked I Love Lucy

'cause 68% of households weregonna watch it every week.

So there are wonderful things about it.

Networks like yours get to exist.

There are a whole bunchof college football games

I can watch this Saturday with my kids.

I'm glad about that but thereis a danger that we end up

with these little tinysiloed fragmented audiences

where we only talk to other people

who already agree with us and we cease

to treat people like whole people.

We cease to try to persuade people

and we start to justthink let's use our time

in this one half of a 1% audience

to yell about the otherpeople that we're angry at

and not try to do justiceto their argument.

I think the ninth commandment,

thou shall not bear falsewitness against their neighbor,

is a pretty important commandment

for the way we consume our news.

- I think it's so easy to,perhaps the argument is,

it's so easy to stay in thosesegmented cloister society,

so what's the incentivefor people to reach out

and go beyond to doexactly what you're saying?

- Yeah I think we livein an interesting moment

because those incentivesdon't really yet exist,

and we're gonna need to buildthe new kinds of habits.

Habit and addiction arereally the same word.

It's just when we likeit, we call it a habit.

When we don't like it,we call it an addiction.

Right now we have a whole bunch of people

and it's bad for Americabut it's particularly bad

for Christians to be addicted

to a kind of angercentric news consumption,

which doesn't do anygood for your neighbor.

There's probably a little old lady

three or four doors downfrom you on your street

that has some unmet need today.

My wife and I are blessed.

We have a 17 year old daughter,

14 year old daughter, seven year old son.

Obviously our seven year old doesn't have

any kind of smartphone technologybut our teenage daughters,

in Nebraska you can drive at 14.

So our girls drive.

So they have a smartphone tohelp do their GPS navigation

but we realized thesmartphone can tempt them away

from human relationshipsto a digital online life.

Well, they need to lovetheir grandparents.

They need to love that widow

that lives four doors down from us.

There's an old guy on our blockwhose wife has Alzheimer's

and he's trying to care for her

and he's lonely and he has needs.

We should serve those real people,

not be down in our phones all the time.

- [Man] Still ahead, achurch in Dearborn, Michigan

reaching out to its Muslim neighbors.

Stay with us.

(bright music)

- Dearborn, Michigan is largely Muslim

and that's resulted in a religious divide

between Muslim andnon-Muslims who live there.

A Christian pastor has put his church

at the heart of thecity and is reaching out

to his community street bystreet, family by family.

Mark Martin has the story.

- Dearborn is known for being home

of the Ford Motor Company.

It's also home to one of the largest

Muslim populations in the country.

Drive around town andit's like your transported

to the Middle East.

Nearly half of Dearborn'spopulation is Muslim.

Out of the 90,000 residents,

approximately 40,000 practice Islam.

80% are Shia Muslims mainlyfrom Lebanon and Iraq.

20% are Sunnis mainly from Yemen.

- That makes this areathe largest concentration

of Arab Shia Muslims in the United States

and that mosque behind usis actually a Shia Mosque.

It's definitely the largest Shia Mosque

in the United States.

- [Mark] It's known as theIslamic Center of America.

John Koski views himself as

a Christian missionary to Muslims here.

He's also the associatepastor at Springwells Church,

an Assembly of God congregation led

by Pastor Trey Hancockand his wife, Becky.

The church sits less than 10 minutes away

from the Islamic Center of America

in the heart of a neighborhoodthat's 97% Muslim.

- Jesus says I want you here so we're here

and I mean what better placein the whole wide world

to find people that don'tknow Jesus that need him

and need what Jesus has to offer.

Right here we're not making it harder

for them to come to the Lord.

- [Mark] The church began meeting

in the Hancock's home in 2000.

More than a decade afterthe pastor and his family

first arrived in Dearbornto minister to Muslims.

Hancock says he heard the call of God

while in Dearborn receivingcultural training.

- And just walking and just praying.

Got down to about right here.

Right here at this very spotand the Lord spoke to me

and said if you're learnabout those people,

you got to live with them.

I thought whoa, that didn't come from me.

I knew who that was.

It was really clear.

It was really distinctand it was a prompting

from the holy spirit and I said okay Lord.

That step of faith has ledto a thriving ministry.

In addition to Sunday services,

church outreach includesdrama presentations,

a wrestling club, and Englishas a second language classes

which include learning bibleverses in Arabic and English.

- I think it's very effective

because we're reallybuilding relationships.

We're ministering to their felt needs

and one of the biggest needs is

to learn English as a second language.

- [Mark] Koski and otherslike Paul Shindlebeck

also take their ministry door to door.

- You say this is basedoff the truth of Jesus?

- [Man] Yeah, it's based on who Jesus was.

- Who Jesus was?

- [Man] Yeah, yeah.

- [Mark] Diane Berry serves through

a Christian Taekwondo ministry.

The former Muslim says Springwellsis making a difference.

- It's God.

It's all God.

It has to be.

And the supernatural protection as well.

You know you think about it.

And we're welcomed here by most

because it's a serving church.

- [Mark] Hancock is overjoyedwhen Muslims accept Jesus.

- It lights my fire, man.

When they say yes to Jesus,it's an amazing thing.

It's amazing thing, especiallyafter they get baptized

because that's when they're saying

to the world I belong to Jesus.

- Although rewarding,ministering in Dearborn

takes a lot of work.

Koski says it takes 30gospel presentations

for the average Muslim to accept Christ

and that's not the only tough part.

In ministering in this area,

spiritual warfare is definitely involved.

For example, Hancocksays in the last decade

more than a dozen churchesin the Dearborn area

have been sold to Muslimsand turned to Mosques.

Churches like this one.

You can see it's now theAmerican Muslim Center

and the cross has beenremoved from the steeple.

On this other former church,an Islamic House of Wisdom sign

has actually been placed overthe cross on the steeple.

Still, Hancock knows the Muslims

who purchased the churchesare not the enemy.

- I'm not fighting quote them,

'cause I want them to come to Jesus.

- [Mark] The pastor looks forward

to the day he learns manyMuslims have responded

to the gospel messagethrough his ministry.

- I hope when I'm standingin front of the Lord

that there's thousands standing behind me

that I had no idea that were listening.

- [Mark] He believes thereare more former Muslims

in Dearborn who believein Jesus than can say so

because they're afraid of each other,

and to the secretbeliever he has a message.

- Find somebody who knows Jesus.

Let them know what you're dealing with,

that you've said yes to the Lord,

even if you have questions.

Ask them to pray for you andallow Jesus to minister to you.

- [Mark] Mark Martin, CBNNews, Dearborn, Michigan.

- And thank you so much for watching

this edition of CBN News.

Goodbye everybody and God bless.

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