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700 Club Interactive - July 26, 2018

When parents discover their son is a serial arsonist, their world is shattered; a prayer of surrender leads to a new beginning. Read Transcript


- [Gordon] An arsonist is on the loose.

- My heart just stopped.

- [Gordon] And the man settingthe fires was their son.

- Paul, you don't havea clue what you've done.

- [Gordon] Plus, BillyGraham's daughter looks at

God's time table.

- I think God's messageof the hour to his people,

Jews and Christians, is it'stime to get right with God.

You cannot postpone it one more day.

- Those stories and more on today's

700 Club Interactive.

Well, welcome to the show.

Here's Efrem Graham with this week's

top five stories from Studio 5.

- [Efrem] At number five.

- [Man] You could say I lost faith.

Picture them giving up.

It wasn't like that for me.

- [Efrem] It's a Studio 5 first look

at the film, An Interview With God.

- Hey Gary.

- What are you doing here?

- I'm working on something.

I'm doing the interview.

- [Gary] With who?

- Paul Asher with Arrow.

- I know who you are.

I know all your work, I'm a fan.

- I cover religion for a secular paper.

The stuff I write usually ends up

in the Lifestyle section.

OK, today is June 1st.

Can you say your name and spell it?

- I'm God, G-O-D.

- I'm doing this interviewand it's getting kinda weird.

If I send you a headshot,could you check it out?

- [Man] You traveled 7,000miles into a war zone.

All war changes people.

- How many times do youwant me to apologize?

- Things happen.

I mean, how many times doI have to live through it?

- Sarah just left me.

- This about Afghanistan?

- No I think it might be abigger problem, an older problem.

- [God] You are about out of time.

- You're saying--

- Yes.

- [Paul] This interview,it's eating me up.

- It's really an interview?

- Yeah.

- With God?

- You're telling me to pray?

- Can't hurt.

- I'd like to talk to you about salvation.

- [Efrem] An intriguing premise for a film

hitting American theaters for three nights

beginning August 20th.

(swiping)

At number four.

- [Narrator] A firstfor Denzel Washington.

After nearly four decades in show biz,

Washington will be in a sequel.

Revising his role of retiredCIA agent Robert McCall

in The Equalizer 2.

When asked why now?

- Good story, great teammates.

- I really was keen and interested in

sort of the father, son story.

I mean, that's what was new about it,

the sort of story betweenme and the young boy,

McCall and the young boy and helping him

navigate a bit through lifewithout a father figure.

- [Efrem] And Equalizer2 opened at the top

of the box office.

- Special talent.

- Yes you do.

And it takes talent to make money.

But it takes brains to keep it, Miles.

- Yeah, well I'm out heremakin' my money, man.

- Short money, Miles.

That's short money.

(swiping)

- [Efrem] At number three.

He's back with his oldshow on a new network.

- Look at that, look!

It's a fox!

- What is it?

- Yeah, a fox!

- I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

What is that?

- A fox.

- I know somebody's gonna be happy

you said that three times.

- [Efrem] All new seasonof Last Man Standing,

Fridays this fall on FOX.

(swiping)

At number two.

- You gon' be in NBA?

I'm like I didn't really, Ijust love to play basketball.

- [Efrem] Fresh off thecourt following his latest

NBA championship, StephCurry graces the cover

of Variety magazine with big news

and big plans for Hollywood.

- The all-star guard recentlysigned a wide-ranging deal

between his productioncompany, Unanimous Media,

and Sony Pictures Entertainment,

part of which involvesplans to bring several

faith adjacent films to theaters.

Curry explains to Varietythat the films won't be

overly-religious saying,

"It's not about me hittingpeople over the head

"with the Bible and tellingthem they have to believe

"a certain thing, or think a certain way."

One will be an animated biblical story

and another called ChurchHoppers is a comedy

in the same vein of Wedding Crashers.

- We got untapped value above us, right?

When you think aboutendorsements you can do

outside of the court.

- Opens up so many doors and opportunities

to turn your other passionsinto real life business,

real life opportunities in that front.

(swiping)

- [Efrem] At number one.

New York City, home to 8.6 million people.

It's a Studio 5 exclusive closer look

at the new CBS series, God Friended Me.

- I thought I had it all figured out,

but then I got a friend request from God.

What?

(upbeat music)

- So, how does a preacher'sson lose his faith in God?

- You're telling em thatGod is watching over us.

You know that's not true.

- You don't think that what happened

made me question my faith?

- When I was eight, mymother was diagnosed

with breast cancer.

She went to full remission.

The daughters couldn't even explain it.

On the way home from the hospital,

she died in a car accident.

- Miles.

- I don't know who's behind this

or why they chose me.

But they sent me names.

They want me to help people.

Hey, somebody stop that guy!

- When you pulled me back, I realized

I didn't wanna die.

Thank you.

♪ Start again ♪

- I told you I'd help youget to the bottom of it.

Besides, maybe we'll dosome good in the process.

- Well Efrem joins usnow and let's kick it off

with that last tease.

God sends a friend request,(laughing)

which is interesting.

- I like that, I think we all

need that friend request.- Interesting premise.

- Indeed.

- What do you think of it?

- I like what I've seen so far.

I've been pursuing this from since May

when they announced they were doing it.

They sent us an exclusive, closer look

at the series and promised us a set visit.

That's coming as well whichI'm looking forward to.

But it looks really good.

The premise is great.

Even to the story line.

This is actually the son of a pastor

and you hear the story abouthow the pastor loses his wife

and he loses his mom and essentially,

that sends him over the edge.

- [Gordon] He loses his faith.

- And he loses his faith as a result

and how many of us cantestify to having things

that tried our faith and really shook us.

Gratefully, preferablymany had not been shaken

but this does shake him to the point that

he becomes an outspoken radio host,

essentially doing all he can to prove

that there is indeed no God and that God

makes his purpose--- It didn't work out my way.

- So therefore, there can't be a God.

- And wondering, how can Dad,

you're gonna be a ministerand continue to lead a,

how can you do that?

So, it's a great premise.

Looks good, getting great reviews.

Premieres September 30th.

It'll be on Sunday nights on CBS.

- Lots of talking points in that

and it's curious lookingat what's coming out

in entertainment today.

You might get the impression that we're

a Christian nation.

- Indeed.- What's going on?

- I think many people aresearching and looking for answers

and Hollywood is responding saying,

"OK, let's explore that."

The very first movie that we looked at,

An Interview With God, that'salso getting rave reviews

and says it's going to start discussion.

People will be able to see itfor three nights next month

in theaters and following that film,

Pastor Stanley out of Atlantais also then hosting a Q&A

with people who have questionsbecause this is going to

raise some natural questions.

Same thing happens in this film as we see

in the series that's coming to CBS.

This guy goes to fight war in Afghanistan

and his life is turned upside down.

Then he comes home andeverything is falling apart.

He's trying to make a name for himself

as essentially this star journalist.

Ya know, just looking toscore the next big get

and he lands this interviewwhich challenges him

and you hear that.

He even says you know, I wannatalk to you about salvation.

Ya know, you've questioned me.

Now let me ask you a few things.

- Your time is short.

- Yeah, indeed.

- Which is not somethingyou wanna hear from God.

- Absolutely.

- But something thatis true for all of us.

I'm getting the impressionthat the writers

and producers are Christian.

Is that true?

- From what I know ofthose that I have read,

yes, they are people of faith who've done

not just faith stories buthave done a number of stories

and established goodrelationships with networks

and movie houses.

So, they've proven that they've been able

to tell a good story andnow, it's opened the door

for them to be able to tell the story

that's truly on their hearts

and that's beautiful to see as well.

- Yeah.

- 'Cause it's well done fromall the reviews I've seen

of both of these.

Critics love the great indepthness of the storytelling

in both of these, sothat's a good thing to see.

- OK, so we need to tune in.

- Yes, please.

(laughing)

If we do that, they'll keep doing it

and it'll come back.

- There'll be more.

There'll be more.- Yes indeed.

- We dictate.

- I know how hard itis to get that entree,

to get to the point where you can prove

faith films, series done properly

can really generate an audience.

- Absolutely.

- That's obviously whatthe network is looking for.

- Yes, you got it, money.

- Steph Curry getting off the court

and now a producer.

- Yes, he is looking at into film making

and television making aswell and the backbone of his

company is, he wants to talk about faith,

he wants to talk about sports,and fun family friendly

story lines, that's what he's doing.

He's already working, Ithink on an Easter film,

a Christmas film, and he'seven correlated a series

of his own on YouTube that'sfive minutes away from home

where he gets to talk to people

and explore anything that's on his mind,

but faith, sports, and familyare the driving three points

for his company Unanimous,which is partnered with Sony,

to develop some entertainment.

- How'd he get the deal with Sony?

- He went looking and thepeople who he reached out to

had relationships with Sony and Sony

has shown from theiraffirmed films, brand,

that this is somethingthat they're after as well

and Steph Curry has a very great brand.

He is outspoken about his faith.

People love not just him, but his family

and they know that's somethingthat will bring them viewers.

So they're willing to go ahead.

He's got two partnerswith him in Unanimous.

One of them had already hada relationship with Sony.

They actually shopped and lookedat other companies as well.

I know they looked at a bunch,

but Sony was the one that worked for them.

- Alright, well Tim Allen is back.

- Yes.

- I hear he's on FOX.

- Yeah, what network again?

(laughing)

It's on FOX.

- What should we expect?

- You should expect more of the same.

I think what's beautifulabout Last Man Standing

coming back is it truly isback because of the audience,

not just Tim Allen, andhe says in interviews

about bringing the show back.

When the show wascanceled, there was outcry.

He says he went home and figuredeverybody forgot about it,

that OK, it was good, itwould win its time slot

on ABC, but they decidednot to continue with it.

That was also because they didn't own it.

They were buying it.

FOX actually owned it, sonow FOX can deliver it.

But it's only 'cause of the fans.

- FOX is getting readyto get owned by Disney.

- Yeah, so they'll get it back.

- It's gonna be back into ABC.

- They'll get it back, you got that right.

Didn't even think about that.

But fans demanded it andthat's why FOX brought it back.

- So, fans make a difference?

- Yeah, you do.

You do make a difference.

I mean, petitions, calls,people wanting the show back

and he thought it went away for good,

and look, Last Man Standingcontinues to stand.

- Alright.

Equalizer, Denzel's lookin' clerical.

(laughing)

- [Efrem] Yes.

- [Gordon] Is he a badguy or a good guy in this?

Or both?

- [Efrem] I'd say he's both.

This is not for the young at heart.

What really, I like about the film--

- [Gordon] It's a solid R, right?

- [Efrem] Yes.

- [Gordon] Lot of blood and guts.

- Yes, what I like about the film

is what he talks about isthe fact that his character

develops a nice bond with this young man

who's in desperate need ofa father figure in his life

so that he can turn his life around.

And Denzel, to my surprise,had never done a sequel.

This is his first sequel insome 30 years in the business.

He's never done a sequel.- He's never done a sequel?

- This is his first time doing it.

Hard to believe.

- How has he made it in Hollywood?

- That talent, ya know, hedoesn't have to rely upon

bringing back the same story regurgitated,

but he also said hesaid yes to this because

it was a good story and because the team.

He likes to work with the group of people

who are working on this film.

So, he came back and he did it,

but the mentor relationshipbetween him, Miles is the

young man, that character in the film.

- When does it open?

- That opened actually last week.

- It's already out?

- It's number one at the box office.

- Number one?

- Number one, so Denzelcomes back in a sequel

for the very first time and he is

number one at the box office.

It's worth seeing for those of us

old enough to see it.

- So, The Equalizer threwall the other superheros out?

- Yes!

- Number one.

- You got it, you've got it.

- Way to go talent.

Way to go sequels.- You got it.

- Well, for all the latestin entertainment news

and it's amazing Hollywood is actually

producing Christianfilms, check out Efrem's

weekly shows.

Studio 5, you can watch itonline at CBN.com/Studio5.

Still ahead, their son was an arsonist,

but they were the onescleaning up the ashes.

- Everybody just walked away.

- All the while knowingthat we did what was right.

- Hear the rest of theirstory when we come back.

(upbeat music)

In 1995, a movie airedstarring Neil Patrick Harris.

It was called Not Our Son

and it was about a serialarsonist terrorizing a state

and a father who knew hehad to go to the police.

For George and MargaretKeller, the movie was more

than just a made for TV drama.

It was the true story of their life.

(fire crackling)(somber music)

- [Narrator] In the summerof 1992, an arsonist began

setting fires across Washington state.

For six months, more than120 buildings were destroyed,

leading to three deathsand over $17 million

in property damage.

Authorities asked the public for help

finding the arsonist.

The Kellers remember it well.

- The first thing thatcaptured my attention

were the three pencilsketches and I looked

and I said that looks like my son, Paul,

and my heart just stopped.

- Paul, you don't havea clue what you've done.

(somber music)

- [Narrator] As Christians,George and Margaret knew

what they had to do.

- No loving father is goingto want to even believe

that his child is capable of crimes,

much less something that is so horrendous,

but this is the truth.

The Lord gave me thestrength at that moment

to go and contact the arson taskforce,

which I did.

- [Narrator] Paul wasarrested, pled guilty,

and was sentenced to 99 yearsin prison without parole.

For George and Margaret,it became the beginning

of a different kind of sentence.

- I would think giving up your son,

which was real, would merit support

instead of abandonment,but then the first person

that left us was our pastor at that time.

- Everybody just walked away.

And I still don't get that.

- [Narrator] For the next threeyears, George and Margaret

plummeted into financial despair

when their marketing business collapsed.

- All my business clients just went away

and I began to just sink.

We lost the home, we lost our savings,

ending up on welfare,going through bankruptcy

and devastation, all the while knowing

that we did what was right.

- [Narrator] They alsostruggled emotionally.

- I felt like a darkdepression just settling down,

the kind that's debilitating.

- Depression, severe anxiety,

post-traumatic stress, all those things

were going on.

I was just a wreck!

It was hell and I didask the Lord many times

to take me home.

Please Lord, this is enough.

Take me!

- [Narrator] For a time,they got help through

Christian counseling andprescription medication,

but it wasn't enough, so theKellers continued to pray

and clung to their faith.

- In the middle of thedarkness, my anchor of faith

in the Lord Jesus held.

I was being strengthenedto just live another day

and another day and another day.

- My prayer was Lord, Idon't know if you're gonna

bring me outta this or not,

but if I'm ever well from this,

and you could ever use thisto just help one person,

then as much as I don't wantto, I'm willing to stay.

- [Narrator] One morning,

Margaret woke up feeling different.

- The depression's gone.

The anxiety is gone.

The feeling of beingso traumatized is gone.

All those conditions that Ihad had were replaced with

total joy and I had such a freedom.

It was a healing, it wasa gift from the Lord.

- I reached a tippingpoint when I was able to

look in the mirror and said,"I'm not depressed anymore."

And that was very significant to me.

Since then, I have not experienced

what I would call beinga depressed person.

- [Narrator] Over time,they stabilized financially

and also found communitywith people who welcomed them

with open arms.

- Christian folks who Ihave met through the years

who are more loving and tender

than any family that I could ever know,

standing with us in prayer all this way.

- [Narrator] Today, Paulcontinues to serve his sentence

while George and Margaretrun their own ministry

and share their story of overcoming grief

everywhere they go.

- I believe I love Jesus more

through all this.

- Jesus said, "I will neverleave you, nor forsake you."

He did not lie.

When you say, "Jesus,here I am," it is enough.

He loves you so much, he isgoing to bring you through.

- He can bring you through.

No parent wants to go through this.

No parent wants to know that their child

is a criminal, has hurt other people,

has destroyed property, but here they are.

Here George and Margaret areand what did they do with this?

Well, George doessomething very courageous.

He says I have to do the right thing.

I have to go to the arson taskforce

and let them know thatI know that it's my son.

Then, everything is stripped from them

and it's curious it startedwith their church relationships.

That got taken away and then the money

got taken away, the businessclients got taken away,

bankruptcy, home, losing everything.

But through it all, God was with them.

If you're going throughthis, if you're going through

children who are rebelling,children who are prodigals,

children who have committedcrime, realize there is a God

and he is there for you.

He hasn't left you.

He hasn't forsaken you.

His ear is still tuned to your cry

and he can see you through.

If you need prayer, ifyou need somebody just to

stand with you to say,

"Yes, we agree that things can get better,

"you can make it throughthis," we're here for ya.

All you have to do iscall us, 1-800-700-700.

Well up next, BillyGraham's daughter Anne says

it's time to get right with God.

- You cannot postpone it one more day.

It's going to be sudden,in the blink of an eye

and just like that, ya know,you'll be held accountable.

- Don't miss her powerful message

to the church today.

Stay with us.

Well last February, theworld mourned the loss

of Billy Graham and no one misses him more

than his own family.

Recently, CBN's Middle EastBureau Chief, Chris Mitchell,

met with Graham'sdaughter, Anne Graham Lotz,

in Jerusalem.

He asked Anne how the familyis handling their loss

and what she believes God issaying to the church right now.

- Well, Anne Graham Lotz,it's great, it's a privilege

to be here with you in Jerusalem.

- Thank you.

- Ya know, a lot of people are,

wonder about you and your family.

How are you doing now thatyour Dad, Billy Graham,

has gone onto heaven?

- All my life, people would say,

"Anne, where's your father?"

I would have to say I don't know,

I couldn't keep track of him.

Now they ask me where he is,I know exactly where he is.

And I know I'm going to see him

and I believe it's going to be soon.

I believe my father'sdeath was as significant

in God's timetable as hislife and I think his life

and ministry, he was God's man of the hour

to just call the world to the cross

and present the gospeland I think his death

is another call, but it's acall to get right with God

because I believe Jesusis coming and once again,

based on Matthew 24:14,Jesus said when the gospel

is preached to the wholeworld, then the end will come.

So Chris, to tell you the truth,

I have a strong sense of purpose

and my purpose, my husbandwent to heaven three years ago,

but what has carried me through then

and what is carrying throughwith my husband and my Daddy

in heaven is just a strongsense of God is here,

God is with me, God is faithful.

He still has something for me to do

or I'd be in heaven.

So I want to finish my life's purpose

and when I see Jesus face to face,

I don't want to have any regrets.

I want to live every moment of my life

as though it was the last.

- Do you think that's whatGod is saying right now

to the church and to the world?

- I think God's message of the hour

to his people, Jews and Christians,

is it's time to get right with God.

You cannot postpone it one more day.

Time is too short and thebible says it's going to come

very quickly when it happens.

It's going to be sudden,in the blink of an eye.

Just like that, ya know,you'll be held accountable.

- It seems an appropriate place to be here

because right behind usis the Mount of Olives

where he said that hewould be coming back to.

- Exactly right.

Ya know, it's very special that this is

Israel's 70th year and shewas reborn in May 14th, 1948.

I was born May 21st, 1948.

So we're the same age, yaknow, one week apart exactly.

Both of us born on the eve of Shabbat

and I believe in the 70thyear, according to Daniel,

claimed the premise fromJeremiah that the people

would be brought back incaptivity because he knew

the plans for them.

He had plans to bless themif they would seek him

with all their hearts and Daniel did

and then, in the 70th year,King Cyrus issued that decree

that they could all go home.

So, the 70th year forIsrael as Daniel prayed it,

was a time of greatblessing for God's people

and it was a time of answered prayer.

I believe that the 70 there is significant

and that God will bring great blessing

and answered prayer.

I'm humbled and honored to bea part of this celebration.

- You mention the peoplegetting right with God.

How do you want peopleto get right with God?

- I'm praying that Godwould pour out upon us

a spirit of repentanceon Jews and Christians

and in Daniel's prayer,in Daniel chapter nine,

it's very interestingthat most of his prayer is

confession of sin.

And uses plural pronounsso he's not pointing

his finger at others but he's saying

we have sinned and we're ashamed.

We haven't listened to your profits.

We haven't heeded what you've told us.

Peter said in Acts chapter three,

right after Pentecost, thatwe're to repent of our sin,

that times of refreshing may come

and that prepares the wayfor the Chris, the Messiah.

So I wonder if Jesusis delaying his coming

until his people getserious about repentance.

For myself, when God has convicted me,

I come to the cross by faith and I just

name my sin for what it is.

Don't play games withthe labels I give it,

but I call it what God calls it

and thank him that the bloodof Jesus is powerful enough

to cleanse me from any sin and all sin.

- Is that the message you, in your book

that you just wroteabout, The Daniel Prayer.

- Yes, The Daniel Prayer,and The Daniel Prayer just,

it's a serious set aside, no holes barred

I won't let you go untilyou bless me kind of prayer.

Daniel prayed undercompulsion because of the

problems in his world.

He claimed that promise in Jeremiah

and he prayed with confidencein his covenant relationship

with God.

He said I turn to the Lord, my God.

And then Daniel, whilehe was still praying,

confessing his sins, amessenger came from heaven

and said you know, "Daniel,your prayer has been heard.

"Your prayer is answeredbecause you're highly esteemed."

So we have to make sureour hearts are cleansed,

that we're right withGod and then we can pray

and in Jesus' name, we can just ask him

what he puts on our hearts to ask him for.

- If you wanna respondand do it right now,

don't let another minute go by.

If you're not right with God, get right.

Don't put it off another day.

Why live in torment when you can live

in the freedom that he so easily gives?

All we have to do is ask for it.

All we have to do is confess our sin

and he will be faithfuland just to forgive us

and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you need help with thisprayer, we're here for you.

All you have to do iscall us, 1-800-700-7000.

Here's a word from Matthew.

"For the Son of Man will come in the glory

"of His Father with His angels,

"and then He will award eachaccording to his works."

God bless you, we'll see ya again.

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