Israel's UN Ambassador Danny Danon: Trump Admin Making a Big Difference for Israel
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- Well welcome to The 700 Club.
The Israeli Ambassadorto the UN, Danny Danon,
and Ambassador, it'swonderful to have you with us.
- Thank you for having me, Gordon.
- Well take us behind the scenes as to
what's going on at the UN.
Are you seeing significant change?
- I'm optimistic.
Even this is hostileplace, I'm optimistic.
We feel the change we see the change.
We are grateful forAmbassador Nikki Haley,
she's doing a great job.
She's standing with Israel,and she's not afraid,
she's not afraid to say the truth to the
other Ambassadors, andeven to bring resolutions
that we know that might not pass,
but still we will win the moral majority,
and we have seen more and more countries
joining the leadership of the US,
that's why I'm optimisticabout the future.
- [Gordon] Didn't she justsurprise the General Assembly
by introducing a resolutioncondemning Hamas?
- Well, let me tell you whathappened a few days before.
The Security Council passed a resolution
condemning Israel for the violence over
defense in Gaza, and Iasked the Security Council,
what about Hamas?
Why can't you nameHamas in the resolution?
Why can't you condemn Hamas?
They were quiet, soAmbassador Haley took that
to the General Assembly,and she put a resolution
to condemn Hamas, and we got the majority.
That was a miracle, 62 member states
supported this resolution.
It shows that when you are bold
and you are not afraid,you can win even in the UN.
- Behind the scenes, doyou get the same rejection
of Israel from the Ambassadors there?
Is there, is that what you'rehearing behind the scenes,
or is there, is this sort of for show?
- It's exactly the opposite.
So behind the scenes,people appreciate Israel.
They even admire Israel, I will meet many
Ambassadors from other countries quietly,
but then when we come to the UN,
they will not even look at me
and I think it will change.
I think it will change.
Also, I think we willsee that the gap between
the public UN and the private UN
will not be the same.
We are seeing it alreadyfrom some countries
in the Middle East becauseI know what they really
think about Israel.
We are not the problem.
Israel is the solution to theproblems in the Middle East.
- I agree, I mean, Israel is,it's the light to the nation.
You look at that and say,
"Yeah, let's follow Israel's example."
Saudi Arabia just cameout with a documentary
which was very unusual,having to do with the
foundation of Israel.
What's your response to that?
They're getting a lot ofheat, particularly from Hamas
for doing that.
Why do you think they released it
and why do you think they released it now
in the 70th year?
- We see more and morecountries in the Middle East
acknowledging the fact thatthis would work with Israel.
If they want to promote peace,they should work with Israel.
They should not think no Israel.
You still have theradical forces like Hamas,
his brother, we fight it,
but I think today, you see the Saudis
and the Israelis inother modern countries,
we have the same enemies,we have the same challenges
and we need to work together.
When you hear the hatewhich is coming from Iran,
it is against the U.S. and against Israel
but it's also against theSaudis, the Egyptians,
the Jordanians, that'swhy we have to find a way
to work together.
- I heard a report and I hope it's true.
It seems unusual that therewere actual protest in Iran
where normally, you hear fromIranians, death to Israel.
There was a protestagainst the ruling party,
the ruling government,
and they started chantingdeath to Palestine.
Is that true?
From an Israeli point of view,
what does that mean?
- First of all, it's true.
You can see it online, the demonstration.
I think that Iranianpeople should speak up.
They should tell the leadersenough with the hatred,
enough with spending billions of dollars
in promoting violence in the Middle East.
Why should the Iranians payfor terrorists in Yamen,
in Syria, in Lebanon, in Gaza.
They should take it for themselves
and we speak directly to the Iranians
and we tell them, "We,the Israelis, the Jews,
"we have nothing against you."
In the past, we workwith the Iranian people,
but the regime is hostile,the regime is exploding
the Iranian people inhope that we would see
more and more of thoseprotests and hopefully one day,
there will be a change off within Iran.
- Well let's go back in time 18 months.
Seems like forever, butin December of 2016,
the Security Councilactually passed a resolution
condemning Israel andsaying Israel had no right
to East Jerusalem, which means Israel,
the Jewish people have noright to the Jewish quarter
in the old city of Jerusalem.
First, what was your reaction at that time
when it passed?
What was going through your heart?
- Gordon, that was a veryhard moment for me personally.
I was in politics for many years,
but still, to be in thesecurity council by myself,
even the United States abandoned us.
It was a shameful momentthat the U.S. allowed
this shameful resolution to pass
and you quoted the language.
It's because our presencein the Holy city,
a flagrant violation to national law.
The fact is, we actually go and pray
in the waiting war, that's aviolation of international law.
It was a low moment but whenI spoke to the ambassador
and told them, we are believers,
we will overcome this shameful resolution.
Little did they know thatexactly a year after,
I would come to the same security council
and we would discuss thedecision of the president
to move the embassy ofthe U.S. to Jerusalem.
So even when you feel thatyou are in a very hard moment,
you need to believe andwe saw what happened
only a year after.
- [Gordon] What's beenthe impact of that move,
the move of the US Embassy to Jerusalem?
- It was a bold decisionof President Trump
and we are grateful for thatand I think more and more
countries following the U.S.
I think it will help the peace process.
It was a reality checkfor the Palestinians.
Jerusalem is the capitalof Israel, period.
Now let's talk about this,let's talk about other things
and I think it's helping the process.
So, I saw the criticismcoming from some of the
European countries, butthey tried for centuries
to achieve peace, it didn't work.
I think this approach with the president
is the right approach.
- What do you think the nextstep is for achieving peace?
Do you think UNRWA, the UN works relief,
do you think that actually hinders peace?
- Well, first, President Trumpis working with his team.
They want to promotepeace, but unfortunately,
the Palestinians are notwilling even to discuss it.
We are open to discuss, to have a dialog,
but we see the Palestinians are not there.
UNRWA supposed to deal withyour militarian issues.
They are not doing it.
They are inciting, soI think that the U.S.
and other countries shouldsupport humanitarian projects
in the Middle East butthey have to make sure
the money goes to thepeople who need the money
and not for incitement against Israel.
- Australia recently saidwe're no longer going to send
money to the Palestinian authority.
They did so because of the pay to slay
where the Palestinians authority literally
is supporting terrorism,they're funding it,
they're giving monthlyincome to either the families
or directly to the terrorists themselves.
Australia said we can no longer do this.
This is against all that we hold dear
and now that Congress haspassed the Taylor Force Act,
it's now up to our statedepartment to determine
do we follow suit.
What do you think will happenin the Palestinian authority
when they get defundedbecause of the payments
to the terrorists?
- I thinks it is a veryimportant initiative.
The U.S. Taylor ForceAct is very important
moral legislationbecause we need to change
the cartel of hate.
When a Palestinian child understands
that if you will kill a Jew,
you will be rewarded for life,
it is a problem.
I think it's a symbolthat we need to change
hatred into coexistence into peace
and that's why it's very important.
I don't know if it will help.
I think some people inthe Palestinian leadership
will choose not to receive funds from the
leadership community, butto continue with the hatred.
It is unfortunate, butmaybe the public will
understand it and will realizethat they need to change that
but today, what we hearfrom President Abbas
and other leaders, thatthey will continue to pay,
from other means they haveto the families of terrorists
who killed innocent Jews.
- [Gordon] Is there any fear that if the
funding's taken away, that the Palestinian
authority will collapse?
- No, it's not a major issue.
It's about seven percent of their budget,
the salary that they are paying,
but it's not easy for them,but I think if it will be
not only the U.S. and Australia.
If we see other countriesfollowing the U.S.,
then it will be meaningful.
If the Palestinian leadership will know
that whenever they willcome to any meeting,
people will ask them why you are paying
families of terrorists whokilled innocent Israelis.
It is insane to payterrorists, to reward them.
It's actually sending amessage for the next generation
Palestinian, we will payyou salaries if you will
continue to kill innocent people.
- Well, you've got a platform right now.
You're talking to hundreds ofthousands of Christians here
in the United States and around the world.
What do you wanna tell them about Israel?
- First off, I want to thank them.
We are grateful for the prayers.
We are grateful for standing with Israel.
I know that I am not alone.
Even when I stand in the United Nations
and I see all the hostility,all the lies against
the only Jewish state, Iknow that I'm not alone
and I want to thank themfor standing with Israel.
We need them to standwith us, to pray with us
and I am optimistic.
Despite everything wehear coming from the UN,
I think we are gratefulfor what we have today.
We achieved a miracle whichis the modern state of Israel.
- How can they pray for you?
I imagine sometimes, youfeel like you stand alone
at the UN.
How can people pray for you?
- You know Gordon, it'sinteresting because
today I live with my family in New York,
which is a friendly city to Israel.
People like Israel.
But when I enter the building of the UN,
it's a hostile ground.
So for me, I know that I'm not alone
and I think when it's not easy,
we need our friends to tell me that.
When you see the pictures in the news
blaming our soldiersdefending our borders,
this is the time we need your prayers,
we need your support.
When it's not easy,when we are under attack
and when you look at the region,
when you see hate behind the nose,
Hamas in the south, youknow that in the future,
they will try to attack us again,
we will lean to thosepeople standing with us
on those crucial times.
- Alright, well Ambassador,thank you for being with us.
- Thank you very much, Gordon, thank you.