New York Times bestselling author Jentezen Franklin shares how you can love through betrayal and hurt.
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Gordon: ABUSED AS A
CHILD, HE TURNED TO DRUGS
AND LASHED OUT IN ANGER.
I WAS A USER AND ABUSER
OF PEOPLE.
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
TO ME I DID TO SOMEONE
ELSE.
Gordon: FIND OUT WHAT
SOMEONE SAID THAT HIT HIM
LIKE A BRICK IN THE FACE.
> PLUS..."NEW YORK
TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
AND PASTOR JENETZEN
FRANKLIN SHOWS US HOW TO
LOVE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER
BEEN HURT, ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB INTERACTIVE."
WELL, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
IT IS MARCH MADNESS TIME,
AND THAT MEANS PLENTY OF
BASKETBALL.
AS HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL
TEAMS FINISH THEIR
SEASONS, WE WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT ONE EXCEPTIONAL
TEAM IN ILLINOIS.
Terry: JERRY PRINA IS
THE COACH OF THE GIRLS'
JUREUREKA HORNETS.
"WHATEVER YOU DO, DO WITH
ALL OF YOUR HEART."
THE TEAM SENIORS DECIDED
TO USE THAT VERSE TO KEEP
THEM MOTIVATED, AND EVEN
PUT THE VERSE ON THE BACK
OF THEIR TEAM T-SHIRT.
THOUGH THEY FINISHED
FOURTH IN THE STATE, IT
WAS THEIR BEST SEASON IN
SCHOOL HISTORY.
THIS SENIOR TOLD THE PEER
PEORIA: WE JUST WANT TO
BE THE ONES SHARING THE
GOSPEL, EVEN IF IT IS JUST
AS SIMPLE AS SHARING A
VERSE ON THE BACK OF OUR
SHIRTS.
SHE ALSO GOES ON TO SAY, I
THINK WE SERVED THE TEAM
WELL AND THE GOSPEL WELL
THIS ENTIRE SEASON.
Gordon: IT IS
WONDERFUL TO SEE STUDENTS
TAKE A STAND.
AS I'M SEEING THIS STORY,
I'M ALSO REMINDED OF THE
CHEERLEADERS WHO WERE SUED
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BIBLE
VERSES -- THEY WERE ABLE
TO WIN AND BE SUCCESSFUL,
BUT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT
IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.
WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR
OUR RIGHTS FOR FREEDOM OF
RELIGION.
Terry: I AGREE.
Gordon: WE HAVE THE
RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
> KING UNIVERSITY WON'T
MAKE THIS NCAA TOURNAMENT,
BUT IT JUST LEAVES TIME
FOR MORE GOOD DEEDS.
MIKE, A SOPHOMORE, NOTICED
A WOMAN SLEEPING IN HER
CAR NEAR CAMPUS, AND HE
DECIDED TO SHARE SOME OF
HIS MEAL.
HE SAYS HE WANTED TO
INSPIRE OTHERS, AND
HELPING PEOPLE IS GOD'S
PLAN.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS
MORE GOOD IN THE WORLD.
YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THE
NEGATIVE THINGS RATHER
THAN THE POSITIVE THINGS.
I WAS JUST WAITING TO
SEE HIM AGAIN TO THANK
HIM.
THANKS, MIKE.
Gordon: A BIG THANKS,
MIKE, FROM ALL OF US.
THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING
TO DO.
LET'S FOCUS ON THE GOOD
AND LET'S FOCUS ON HOW WE
CAN BE GOOD TO OTHERS
AROUND US.
Terry: I LOVE THAT.
WHEN YOU SEE TOGETHER, DO
SOMETHING.
THAT'S AUS TUM.
AWESOME.
> WELL, NARBERTUS IS
PLAYING COLLEGE FOOTBALL
AT JACKSONVILLE
UNIVERSITY.
HE HASN'T SEEN HIS FAMILY
SINCE LEAVING LITHUANIA
SINCE LEAVING FOR COLLEGE
FIVE YEARS AGO.
HIS COACHES WANTED TO GIVE
HIM A LONG OVERDUE REUNION
WITH HIS MOTHER, AND IT
WAS ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO.
TAKE A LOOK.
WE GOT ALL OF THE
COACHES HERE.
[INAUDIBLE]
[INAUDIBLE]
THIS IS THE REAL THING
HERE FOR YOU.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
GOOD MORNING.
Gordon: THAT WAS
AWESOME.
Terry: IF THAT
DOESN'T BRING TEARS TO
YOUR EYES, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT DOES.
YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD FOR A
HUG FROM YOUR MOTHER.
Gordon: THAT'S TRUE.
I GOT ONE FROM MY MOTHER
THE OTHER DAY.
> RECENTLY MADD AND HIS
WIFE RECEIVED
HEARTBREAKING NEWS.
EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TWO
HEALTHY BOYS, THEY HAD
THEIR SEVENTH MISCARRIAGE.
Terry: MATT'S CLASS
RAISED MONEY TO SEND
MRS. GORK AND HIS WIFE TO
A 6ers' GAME.
AND THEY SAID, KEEP YOUR
HEAD UP, EVEN WHEN LIFE
HITS ROCK BOTTOM.
THAT MESSAGE IMPACTED THE
TEACHER EVEN MORE THAN THE
BASKETBALL TICKETS.
TAKE A LOOK.
TO COME FROM JUNIORS IN
HIGH SCHOOL, WHO ARE 16
AND 17 YEARS OLD, AND AS A
PARENT, AND WHAT IS GOING
ON IN THIS WORLD, AND ON
THE NEWS AND MEDIA, IT WAS
PRETTY AMAZING TO SEE SOME
YOUNG ADULTS DO THAT AND
SHOW THAT KIND OF
COMPASSION AND EMPATHY.
Terry: SO AFTER
SHARING THIS STORY ONLINE,
THE PHILADELPHIA 76ers
THREW IN ANOTHER 30
TICKETS SO THE STUDENTS
COULD JOIN HIM AND HIS
WIFE FOR A DATE NIGHT.
Gordon: THAT'S A BIG
DATE.
HATS OFF TO THE 6ers,
THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING
TO DO FOR THAT ENTIRE
CLASS.
THAT IS GREAT.
> UP NEXT, HOW TO LOVE
IN SPITE OF HURT AND
BETRAYAL.
NEW YORK CIT"NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
JENETZEN FRANKLIN JOINS US
TO TELL US HOW THAT IS
POSSIBLE, RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
Gordon: AS
CHRISTIANS, WE'RE
WELL-AWARE OF THE CHAOS
THAT CAN SOMETIMES INVADE
OUR LIVES.
HOWEVER, WE OFTEN FORGET
THAT THOSE SHEPHERDING THE
FLOCK CAN FACE TROUBLING
TIMES AS WELL.
PASTOR JENETZEN FRANKLIN
IS SHARING HIS HOPE IN
LIGHT OF HURTFUL AND
TRYING TIMES.
Reporter: JENETZEN
FRANKLIN IS A "NEW YORK
TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
AND THE PASTOR OF FREE
CHAPEL CHURCH IN
GAINESVILLE.
WHEN HIS OLDER DAUGHTER
BEGAN TO STRAY IN COLLEGE,
THERE WAS CONSTANT
FRICTION, AND LIFE BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS WAS LIKE A
WAR ZONE.
IN HIS BOOK, "LOVE LIKE
YOU'VE NEVER BEEN HURT," HURT,"
HE SHARES GLIMPSE OF THE
STRUGGLES IN LIFE, AND
OFFERS FOUR WAYS TO FIND
LOVE, EVEN IN THE MIDST OF
DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
Gordon: JENETZEN
FRANKLIN JOINS US NOW.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN
MARRIED 30 YEARS, AND WE
HAVE FIVE CHILDREN, FOUR
DAUGHTERS AND A SON, BORN
IN THAT ORDER.
WE WERE THE
PICTURE-PERFECT FAMILY.
THERE IS UNSEEN PRESSURE
OF BEING A PASTOR.
WE HAVE SIX CAMPUSES AND A
LOT OF PEOPLE, AND WE'RE
ON TELEVISION.
BUT WE WERE THE
PICTURE-PERFECT FAMILY,
AND THEN SHE WENT OFF TO
COLLEGE, AND THE SAME OLD
STORY, SHE JUST DID WHAT
SOME OF US DID, I DID.
SHE LIVED THE PARTY LIFE,
AND MADE SOME WRONG
CHOICES, BUT SHE GOT IN
DEEP.
AND WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS
WRONG.
I'LL NEVER FORGET, ONE DAY
I WAS PREPARING TO PREACH
AND HAD ABOUT 30 MINUTES,
AND MY WIFE BURST INTO MY
OFFICE, AND SHE WAS IN
TEARS.
AND SHE SAID, I GUESS -- I
GUESS IT WAS A WOMAN'S
INTUITION.
AND SHE SAID, WE HAVE TO
GO GET HER.
AND SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT.
WE DROVE UP TO THE SCHOOL,
BROUGHT HER HOME, AND
THERE WAS TEARS.
SHE WAS READY TO COME
HOME.
WE MIGHT HAVE SAVED HER
LIFE BRINGING HER HOME.
WE THOUGHT THINGS WERE ON
THE ROAD TO RECOVERY, BUT
IT GOT WORSE, IT GOT
DARKER, AND SHE RAN A
WEIGH.
WAY.
AND TO MAKE A LONG STORY
SHORT, IT DEVASTATED OUR
FAMILY, AND IT DEVASTATED
THE SIBLINGS, AND OUR HOME
DYNAMIC CHANGED.
THERE WERE A LOT OF
ARGUMENTS.
THIS WAS 10 YEARS AGO, AND
MY WIFE AND I JUST DECIDED
TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I
HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME,
GORDON.
SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED IN
OUR FAMILY, AND WE JUST
DON'T GET ALONG ANYMORE.
SOME HAVE RELATIVES ACROSS
THE CITY THAT YOU NEVER
EVEN TALK TO, HAVE A MEAL
WITH.
THERE IS A SICKNESS IN THE
BODY OF CHRIST.
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG
AS CHRISTIANS THAT WE
CAN'T GET BEYOND OUR
CONFLICTS AND OUR HURTS
AND OUR FENCES.
Gordon: WITH YOUR
DAUGHTER, THERE WAS SORT
OF A DEFINING TEXT THAT
SHE SENT.
WHAT WAS THAT?
YEAH.
SHE HAD RAN AWAY FROM
HOME, AND SHE SENT A TEXT
AND SAID, MOM AND DAD, I'M
MARRIED.
I GOT MARRIED TODAY -- A
JUSTICE OF THE PEACE
MARRIED US.
AS A MINISTER, AS A
PREACHER, THAT WAS
DEVASTATING TO ME, TO HER
MOTHER.
WE WERE BROKEN.
AND THE NEXT WEEK I HAD A
WEDDING, AND IT WAS ONE OF
HER FRIENDS.
AND I WATCHED THE FATHER
WALK THAT DAUGHTER DOWN
AND GIVE HER AWAY, AND IT
DEVASTATED ME.
IT WAS EVERYTHING I COULD
DO TO HOLD IT TOGETHER.
AND IT BEGAN A BITTERNESS
IN ME.
THE BOOK IS NOT ABOUT -- I
THINK THE STORY OF MY
DAUGHTER IS ABOUT TWO
PAGES.
THE REST IS ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO ME, AND HOW
THAT AFFECTED US, AND HOW
IT AFFECTEDED OUR AFFECTED OUR MARRIAGE,
AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE
OTHER SIBLINGS.
WE HAD SOME OTHER
CHALLENGES WITH THE OTHER
KIDS.
THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT WE
BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE IS I
REALIZED SOMETHING THAT
CHANGED.
I WAS BITTER.
I WAS MAD.
I WAS ANGRY.
I WAS EASILY SET OFF.
THAT'S NOT EVEN WHO I AM.
SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME --
I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN IT ALL
CAME TO A HEAD IS ONE OF
HER SISTERS WAS IN A BIG
ARGUMENT WITH THIS
DAUGHTER WHEN THINGS WERE
AT ITS WORSE, AND THEY
WERE SCREAMING AT ONE
ANOTHER.
AND SHE SAID, I HATE WHAT
YOU HAVE DONE TO OUR
DADDY.
I HATE HOW YOU HAVE
CHANGED HIM.
I HATE HOW HE DOESN'T
LAUGH, AND HE IS NOT FUN
LIKE HE WAS WHEN WE WERE
COMING UP.
AND THEN I REALIZED SHE
DIDN'T DO THAT.
I LET THE ENEMY DO THAT TO
ME.
I HAVE A FENCE.
I HAVE BITTERNESS.
I HAVE ANGER INSIDE OF ME.
AND THAT BEGAN A -- I
HEARD THIS PHRASE, "LOVE
LIKE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN
HURT," AND I DON'T KNOW
WHY, BUT IT HAD SUCH AN
ATTRACTION.
IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM --
THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY
SEWER, BUSURE, BUT THEY THINK
SACHAL PAIGE.
THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN
PITCHER IN PROFESSIONAL
BASEBALL.
HE IS IN THE HALL OF FAME.
BUT THEY WERE HURTLE
RACIAL INSULTS FROM THE
STANDS, AND A REPORTER
STUCK A MICROPHONE TO HIM
AFTER HIS FIRST GAME, AND
SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO DO ABOUT THAT?
AND HE SAID, "I'M GOING TO
LOVE LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN
HURT."
AND THEN I GOT TO SEEING,
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JOSEPH
DID.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHEN HIS
FAMILY HURT HIM AND WENT
THROUGH EVERYTHING,
FALSELY ACCUSED HIM AND
OFFENDED HIM, HE LOVED
LIKE HE'D NEVER BEEN HURT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JESUS
DID.
Gordon: IT IS EASY TO
SAY THAT.
YES.
Gordon: BUT THERE IS
A PROCESS TO IT.
YES, THERE IS.
Gordon: SO WHAT WAS
THE PROCESS FOR YOU?
THIS IS SO TRUE.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING
THAT I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE
AWAY FROM THE BOOK, SOME
SOMETIMES IT IS NOT
INSTANT.
SOMETIMES -- YOU HEAR THIS
PHRASE "FORGIVE AND
FORGET."
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
HOW DO I FORGET?
HOW DO I FORGET IF
SOMEBODY ABUSED ONE OF MY
CHILDREN?
HOW DO I FORGET IF A
SPOUSE WALKED OFF AND LEFT
YOU WITH THREE KIDS AND A
BUNCH OF BILLS, AND
THEY'RE HAVING THE TIME OF
THEIR LIFE AND YOU'RE
GOING THROUGH HELL?
HOW DO I FORGET THAT
SOMEBODY STOLE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A
BUSINESS DEAL?
IT'S NOT THAT YOU FORGET.
YOU REMEMBER IT
DIFFERENTLY.
IT ACTUALLY BECOMES A
POINT OF REFERENCE OF HOW
FAR GOD, BY HIS GRACE AND
HIS WORK IN YOUR LIFE, HAS
TAKEN YOU, AND YOU -- I
LOOK AT HOW GOD HAS HELPED
US, AND NOW MY DAUGHTERS,
ALL OF THEM ARE SERVING
THE LORD IN FULL-TIME
MINISTRY.
THE BATTLE I HAD WAS WITH
THE SON-IN-LAW.
AND HERE IS THE HONEST
TRUTHTRUTH -- I WISH I COULD
SAY TEARS FLOWED AND WE
HUGGED AND KISSED, BUT THE
TRUTH IS IT IS STILL, TO
THIS DAY -- IF I ALLOW IT,
THAT STUFF CAN COME UP IN
YOU.
I GIVE AN ILLUSTRATIONS IN
THE BOOK ABOUT THE OLD
KETCHUP BOTTLES -- NOW
THEY HAVE THE SQUEEZEABLE
KIND, AND IF YOU WANT IT,
YOU CAN SQUEEZE IT AND IT
COMES OUT.
BUT THAT'S NOT HOW
FORGIVENESS IS, ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU'VE BEEN HURT.
IT IS MORE LIKE THE OLD
GLASS BOTTLES.
HERE IS SOMETHING YOU'LL
FIND OUT IF YOU GO TO
HEINZ.COM, AND THEY SAID
ONLY 11% OF KETCHUP USERS
KNOW THIS, THAT THE REASON
THEY HAVE THE NUMBER 57 ON
THE HEINZ 57 KETCHUP
BOTTLE IT WAS
STRATEGICALLY DESIGNED IF
YOU WILL TAP WHERE THE 57
IS, IT WILL BRING THE
QUICKEST RELEASE OF THE
CONTENT.
IF YOU'VE EVER DONE THAT,
IT IS A SLOW PROCESS.
THAT'S HOW FORGIVENESS IS.
THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET
OPEN.
I'M OPEN TO
RECONCILIATION.
I REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE
FIRST MEALS WITH MY
FAMILY, IT WAS TIGHT.
IT WAS TENSE.
IT WAS AWKWARD.
IT WAS THE HOLIDAYS.
YOU JUST GET THROUGH IT
AND DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
BUT TAP, TAP, YOU ASK AND
KEEP ON ASKING, AND PRAY
AND KEEP ON PRAYING.
AND LITTLE BY LITTLE THE
GUSHES OF LOVE AND
RECONCILIATION BEGIN TO
HAPPEN.
I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT GOD
WANT TO DO IN MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE'S HOMES AND
FAMILIES.
Gordon: I BELIEVE HE
IS ASKING US FOR REC SILL
RECONCILIATION.
AND IT HAS TO START
WITH ME.
AT SOME POINT IT DOESN'T
EVEN MATTER WHO IS WRITE RIGHT
AND WHO IS WRONG.
AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO
SEPARATE THE ACTION FROM
THE PERSON.
WHEN I SAY I FORGIVE, IT
DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AGREE.
WHAT DID MAY HAVE BEEN
WRONG.
THERE IS NO DEFENDING IT.
BUT I CAN SEPARATE THE
PERSON FROM THE ACTION
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT JESUS
DOES FOR YOU, AND HE DOES
FOR ME.
EVERY DAY OF OUR LIFE HE
SAYS, I FORGIVE, AND NOW
HE SAYS, TURN AROUND AND
LOVE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER
BEEN HURT.
Gordon: AMEN.
AMEN.
HIS BOOK IS CALLED "LOVE
LIKE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN
HURT."
AND I THINK THIS IS
UNIVERSAL.
I THINK ALL OF US GO
THROUGH THIS, AND
REALIZING THAT LOVE COMES
FROM A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE
IN HIM.
THAT'S WHAT RELEASES IT.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET IT.
IT IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER
BOOKS ARE SOLD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT IS GREAT TO BE WITH
YOU.
Gordon: TERRY, OVER
TO YOU.
Terry: COMING UP, A
MAN AT THE END OF HIS
ROPE.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE
THING LEFT, AND THAT WAS
TO DIE OR MAKE A NEW
APPROACH AT LIVING.
Terry: FIND OUT WHO
HELPED HIM MAKE THE RIGHT
Terry: AFTER 10 YEARS
OF DRUG ADDICTION, WAYNE
BRADLEY WAS BARELY ALIVE.
HE WAS EMACIATED, SHUNNED
BY PEOPLE, AND LIVING
UNDER A BRIDGE.
WAYNE WAS ALSO SNATCHING
PURSES TO FEED HIS
ADDICTION UNTIL THE DAY
ONE OF HIS WOULD-BE
VICTIMS SHUT HIM DOWN WITH
A SIMPLE GESTURE.
WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO
90 POUNDS AND A SHOE
STRING AROUND YOUR WAIST
FOR A BELT, WHEN PEOPLE
LOCKED THEIR DOORS WHEN
THEY SEE YOU, WHEN YOU
HAVE GIVEN UP, THERE IS
ONLY ONE THING LEFT.
AND THAT'S TO DIE OR MAKE
A NEW APPROACH AT LIVING.
AND I WAS JUST TIRED.
I WAS JUST TIRED.
Reporter: WAYNE
BRADLEY'S STORY BEGINS
OVER 50 YEARS AGO, IN HIS
HOME ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
CHICAGO, WHERE HE WAS
PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY
ABUSED BY HIS FATHER.
YOU WERE ALWAYS
GUESSING.
ALWAYS GUESSING WHAT KIND
OF REACTION YOU WOULD
RECEIVE.
THERE WAS ALWAYS THE FEAR
THAT I THINK PERMEATED THE
AIR MORE THAN ANYTHING
ELSE.
Reporter: EMBARRASSED
ABOUT THE ABUSE, HE TOLD
NO ONE AND SOON BECAME A
LONER.
I WAS ALWAYS SCARED,
ALWAYS ASHAMED.
I WAS ALWAYS...I THINK
THAT EVEN IN THE PAIN AND
IN THE TIMES THAT I WAS
HURTING THE MOST, I WAS
ALWAYS AFRAID THAT
SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN,
THAT SOMETHING WOULD
HAPPEN.
BECAUSE I KNEW -- EVEN AT
THAT EARLY AGE, I KNEW
THAT IT COULDN'T GO ON
LIKE THAT FOREVER.
I JUST WAS ALWAYS AFRAID
THAT SOMETHING WOULD
HAPPEN.
AND IT DID.
IT DID.
Reporter: AFTER HIGH
SCHOOL, WAYNE JOINED THE
ARMY AND SERVED FOUR
YEARS.
FOR THE NEXT 16 YEARS, HE
WORKED AS A TRUCKER AND
THEN AS A SECURITY GUARD.
BUT DRUGS AND ALCOHOL WERE
A CONSTANT PROBLEM.
I THINK THE MAIN REASON
I WAS AN ADDICT, I ABUSED
SO MANY DRUGS, I WAS
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO
HIDE.
I WAS TRYING TO HIDE NOT
ONLY FROM THE THINGS THAT
HAVE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE,
BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO FACE
ME.
I WAS A USER AND ABUSER OF
PEOPLE.
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
TO ME, I DID TO SOMEONE
ELSE.
I WAS NOT GOOD NEWS, NOT
GOOD NEWS.
FROM THE MILITARY TO '96,
I WAS A MESS.
Reporter: THAT MESS
WAS ABOUT TO GET MUCH
WORSE.
IT WAS APRIL 1996.
WAYNE WENT TO SEE HIS
PARENTS, ONLY TO FIND THEM
DEAD IN THEIR HOME.
BOTH HAD BEEN BRUTALLY
STABBED AND BEATEN.
THEN HE LEARNED THE KILLER
WAS HIS OLDER BROTHER,
CRAIG.
IT BECAME PROBABLY THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE OF MY
LIFE.
I'M TELLING YOU, I WAS
TOTALLY MESSED UP.
AND I WAS STRUNG OUT ON
ALL KINDS OF DRUGS AND
ALCOHOL.
I WAS MAD AT MY FAMILY.
I WAS MAD AT MY DAD.
I WAS MAD AT GOD FOR
PUTTING ME IN SUCH A
SCREWED UP FAMILY.
Reporter: WAYNE LOST
HIS JOB, AND OVER THE NEXT
10 YEARS, HE BECAME
EMACIATED, SHUNNED BY
PEOPLE, AND BARELY ALIVE.
ULTIMATELY, IT ENDED UP
WITH ME LIVING UNDER A
BRIDGE IN HOMELESSNESS AND
ADDICTION.
AND I HAD SUBMITTED MY
LIFE TO THAT.
Reporter: WAYNE
BECAME A PURSE-SNATCHER TO
SUPPORT HIS ADDICTIONS.
ONE TIME AT A BUS STOP, HE
SAW AN OLDER LADY WHO WAS
A PERFECT TARGET.
I'M LOOKING AT HER
PURSE, AND SHE IS LOOKING
AT ME, AND SHE SAID, YOUNG
MAN, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO
TO ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO
KNOW THAT JESUS LOVES YOU.
AND IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY
THREW A BRICK IN MY FACE.
JESUS LOVES ME.
AND SHE SAID, LET ME SHOW
YOU SOMETHING.
AND SHE POINTED AT A
CROSS, AND IT WAS UP IN
THE SKY, AND IT WAS A 40
BY 40-FOOT CROSS AT A
PLACE CALLED "VICTORY
OUTREACH," AND SHE SAID,
THEY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU
AGREE TO GO WITH ME.
Reporter: WAYNE
AGREED TO GO WITH HER.
I WAS TIRED OF RUNNING.
I WAS TIRED OF HIDING.
I WAS TIRED OF BEING
SCARED.
I WAS TIRED OF LYING.
Reporter: AT THE
RECOVERY HOME, THE PEOPLE
TREATED WAYNE LIKE FAMILY,
AND HE LEARNED ABOUT JESUS
CHRIST FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WHAT I REALLY LEARNED
WAS THAT HE WAS REAL.
I SAW HIM IN THE PEOPLE
WHO ACCEPTED ME.
AND THEY ACCEPTED ME AT MY
WORSE.
THEY LOVED ME
UNCONDITIONALLY.
Reporter: WAYNE HAD A
GLIMPSE OF WHAT COULD BE,
BUT HIS ADDICTIONS WERE
STRONGER THAN HIS WILL TO
GET BETTER.
EIGHT MONTHS LATER, HE WAS
BACK ON THE STREETS
LOOKING FOR HIS NEXT FIX.
IN 2007, WAYNE WENT TO
PRISON FOR LARCENY.
PURSE-SNATCHING HAD
FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO HIM.
WHEN I GOT TO PRISON
WAS WHEN I REALLY FOUND
MYSELF ALONE.
AND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,
WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE
ANYTHING ELSE BUT GOD.
AND I GOT MY HANDS ON THE
BIBLE, AND I WAS READING
AND I WAS FINDING OUT MORE
AND MORE ABOUT JESUS.
AND I REALIZED THAT I WAS
RIGHT WHERE GOD WANTED ME
TO BE.
AND THAT'S WHEN I GAVE MY
LIFE TO JESUS.
I STARTED GETTING A
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
JESUS.
AND I WANTED MORE.
Reporter: AFTER
SERVING NINE MONTHS, WAYNE
WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON.
THAT SAME YEAR HE MARRIED
JACKIE.
GOD CHANGING HIM TO BE
A MAN WHO IS CONFIDENT IN
WHO HE IS IN GOD, AS A MAN
OF GOD, AND WHEN HE SPEAKS
TO YOU, HE SPEAKS TO YOU
FROM HIS HEART.
HE LOOKS IN YOUR EYES, AND
YOU CAN JUST SEE THE PAIN
AND THE SADNESS IS GONE,
AND IT HAS BEEN REPLACED
WITH A PEACE.
I'VE FORGIVEN MY
BROTHER FOR HIS CRIMES,
FOR THE MURDER OF MY
PARENTS.
WE TALK NOW.
HE CALLS -- ACTUALLY, HE
JUST CALLED THE OTHER DAY.
HE CALLS ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
WE WRITE TO HIM.
AND WE SEND HIM THINGS
THAT HE NEEDS.
Reporter: TOGETHER
WAYNE AND JACKIE FOUNDED
"I CAN" CELEBRATION
MINISTRY.
SOMETIMES THAT IS WHAT
HAS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO
GOD TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.
HE HAS TO GET YOU
SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE ARE
NO DISTRACTIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID FOR
ME.
Reporter: WAYNE NOW
HAS A NEW PERSPECTIVE ON
HIS STRUGGLE WITH ANGER.
I THOUGHT I WAS MAD AT
PEOPLE.
EVEN AT MY BROTHER WITH
THE MURDERS.
I THOUGHT I WAS MAD AT
HIM.
AND ALL THIS TIME I HAD
JUST BEEN MAD AT GOD
BECAUSE HE NEVER DID
THINGS THE WAY I THOUGHT
HE SHOULD.
BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY
GOD DID THINGS THE WAY HE
DID.
AND IT IS HIS GRACE.
HE IS TAKING US THROUGH
SOMETHING TO GET US TO
SOMETHING.
BUT I'M GOING TO PAY
ATTENTION TO JESUS.
WHEN HE SHOWS UP IN MY
LIFE, I'M GOING TO PAY
ATTENTION TO HIM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
HERE IS THE GOOD THING:
JESUS WILL GO ANYWHERE.
AND HE'LL MEET YOU
WHEREVER YOU ARE.
Terry: HE'LL JUST
LOVE YOU TOO MUCH TO LET
YOU STAY THERE.
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT HE
LEAVES THE 99 TO GO AFTER
THE ONE WHO IS LOST.
BOY, WAYNE HAS SO MUCH
TRUTH IN WHAT HE SHARES
WITH ALL OF US IN HIS
STORY.
WHEN THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU
WHEN YOU'RE A CHILD, THE
NUMBER ONE EMOTION THAT
MOST PEOPLE FEEL IS FEAR.
AND YOU JUST RUN.
YOU JUST HIDE.
YOU JUST WANT TO GET AWAY
FROM IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IT.
AND SO WE HARNESS ALL OF
THAT JUNK INSIDE OF US,
AND WE HANG ON TO IT.
AND WE LET IT, WITHOUT
REALIZING IT, BEGIN TO
DEFINE WHO WE ARE, BUT IT
IS NOT WHO WE WERE CREATED
TO BE.
YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD,
MADE IN THE IMAGE OF
LIKENESS OF YOUR HEAVENLY
FATHER.
HE CREATED YOU WITH PLAN
AND PURPOSE IN MIND.
AND HIS WORD SAYS THAT HE
SAW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE
EVER FORMED IN YOUR
MOTHER'S WOMB, KNEW YOU,
HAD YOUR NAME CARVED IN
THE PALM OF HIS HAND,
WANTED TO CALL YOU HIS
OWN, INVITED YOU INTO HIS
PRESENCE, INTO HIS FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, EARLIER PASTOR
FRANKLIN WAS TALKING ABOUT
THE POWER OF FORGIVENESS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF
WHAT HAPPENED IN WAYNE'S
LIFE.
HE LET GO.
HE SAID, GOD, THIS ISN'T
WHO I WANT TO BE.
THIS ISN'T HOW I WANT TO
LIVE.
THESE FEELINGS, EVEN ANGER
TOWARDS GOD -- THIS IS NOT
WHAT I KNOW WILL MAKE MY
LIFE MATTER.
I'M LETTING GO OF IT, AND
I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU
BE GOD.
IT IS THE BEGINNING OF AN
AMAZING JOURNEY OF
FORGIVENESS, OF HEALING,
OF WHOLENESS AND VISION
FOR WHO YOU ARE, FOR THE
FUTURE GOD INTENDED FOR
YOU.
NO MATTER WHAT HAS
HAPPENED TO YOU, NO MATTER
WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE
YOU'RE AT TODAY.
GOD'S LOVE IS EXTENDED THE
YOU.
IF YOU NEED TO PRAY WITH
SOMEONE ABOUT HEALING BE
WHOLENESS AND FORGIVENESS,
OUR NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.
AND THE PERSON WHO IS
ANSWERING IT IS SOMEBODY
WHO HAS ALREADY FOUND
THAT.
1-800-700-7000.
CALL NOW.
A FRIEND IS STANDING BY TO
TALK WITH YOU.
GORDON?
Gordon: HERE IS A
WORD IN CLOSING, FROM
COLOSSIANS 3: "IN
WHATEVER YOU DO, DO IT
HEARTEDLY AS TO THE LORD
AND NOT TO MEN."
THAT'S A GOOD WORD TO
MEDITATE ON.
WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, LET
US DO IT UNTO THE LORD.
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.