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700 Club Interactive - March 9, 2018

New York Times bestselling author Jentezen Franklin shares how you can love through betrayal and hurt. Read Transcript


Gordon: ABUSED AS A

CHILD, HE TURNED TO DRUGS

AND LASHED OUT IN ANGER.

I WAS A USER AND ABUSER

OF PEOPLE.

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED

TO ME I DID TO SOMEONE

ELSE.

Gordon: FIND OUT WHAT

SOMEONE SAID THAT HIT HIM

LIKE A BRICK IN THE FACE.

> PLUS..."NEW YORK

TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR

AND PASTOR JENETZEN

FRANKLIN SHOWS US HOW TO

LOVE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER

BEEN HURT, ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

WELL, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

IT IS MARCH MADNESS TIME,

AND THAT MEANS PLENTY OF

BASKETBALL.

AS HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL

TEAMS FINISH THEIR

SEASONS, WE WANT TO

HIGHLIGHT ONE EXCEPTIONAL

TEAM IN ILLINOIS.

Terry: JERRY PRINA IS

THE COACH OF THE GIRLS'

JUREUREKA HORNETS.

"WHATEVER YOU DO, DO WITH

ALL OF YOUR HEART."

THE TEAM SENIORS DECIDED

TO USE THAT VERSE TO KEEP

THEM MOTIVATED, AND EVEN

PUT THE VERSE ON THE BACK

OF THEIR TEAM T-SHIRT.

THOUGH THEY FINISHED

FOURTH IN THE STATE, IT

WAS THEIR BEST SEASON IN

SCHOOL HISTORY.

THIS SENIOR TOLD THE PEER

PEORIA: WE JUST WANT TO

BE THE ONES SHARING THE

GOSPEL, EVEN IF IT IS JUST

AS SIMPLE AS SHARING A

VERSE ON THE BACK OF OUR

SHIRTS.

SHE ALSO GOES ON TO SAY, I

THINK WE SERVED THE TEAM

WELL AND THE GOSPEL WELL

THIS ENTIRE SEASON.

Gordon: IT IS

WONDERFUL TO SEE STUDENTS

TAKE A STAND.

AS I'M SEEING THIS STORY,

I'M ALSO REMINDED OF THE

CHEERLEADERS WHO WERE SUED

BECAUSE THEY HAVE BIBLE

VERSES -- THEY WERE ABLE

TO WIN AND BE SUCCESSFUL,

BUT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT

IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.

WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR

OUR RIGHTS FOR FREEDOM OF

RELIGION.

Terry: I AGREE.

Gordon: WE HAVE THE

RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR

RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

> KING UNIVERSITY WON'T

MAKE THIS NCAA TOURNAMENT,

BUT IT JUST LEAVES TIME

FOR MORE GOOD DEEDS.

MIKE, A SOPHOMORE, NOTICED

A WOMAN SLEEPING IN HER

CAR NEAR CAMPUS, AND HE

DECIDED TO SHARE SOME OF

HIS MEAL.

HE SAYS HE WANTED TO

INSPIRE OTHERS, AND

HELPING PEOPLE IS GOD'S

PLAN.

I FEEL LIKE THERE IS

MORE GOOD IN THE WORLD.

YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THE

NEGATIVE THINGS RATHER

THAN THE POSITIVE THINGS.

I WAS JUST WAITING TO

SEE HIM AGAIN TO THANK

HIM.

THANKS, MIKE.

Gordon: A BIG THANKS,

MIKE, FROM ALL OF US.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING

TO DO.

LET'S FOCUS ON THE GOOD

AND LET'S FOCUS ON HOW WE

CAN BE GOOD TO OTHERS

AROUND US.

Terry: I LOVE THAT.

WHEN YOU SEE TOGETHER, DO

SOMETHING.

THAT'S AUS TUM.

AWESOME.

> WELL, NARBERTUS IS

PLAYING COLLEGE FOOTBALL

AT JACKSONVILLE

UNIVERSITY.

HE HASN'T SEEN HIS FAMILY

SINCE LEAVING LITHUANIA

SINCE LEAVING FOR COLLEGE

FIVE YEARS AGO.

HIS COACHES WANTED TO GIVE

HIM A LONG OVERDUE REUNION

WITH HIS MOTHER, AND IT

WAS ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO.

TAKE A LOOK.

WE GOT ALL OF THE

COACHES HERE.

[INAUDIBLE]

[INAUDIBLE]

THIS IS THE REAL THING

HERE FOR YOU.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

GOOD MORNING.

Gordon: THAT WAS

AWESOME.

Terry: IF THAT

DOESN'T BRING TEARS TO

YOUR EYES, I DON'T KNOW

WHAT DOES.

YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD FOR A

HUG FROM YOUR MOTHER.

Gordon: THAT'S TRUE.

I GOT ONE FROM MY MOTHER

THE OTHER DAY.

> RECENTLY MADD AND HIS

WIFE RECEIVED

HEARTBREAKING NEWS.

EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TWO

HEALTHY BOYS, THEY HAD

THEIR SEVENTH MISCARRIAGE.

Terry: MATT'S CLASS

RAISED MONEY TO SEND

MRS. GORK AND HIS WIFE TO

A 6ers' GAME.

AND THEY SAID, KEEP YOUR

HEAD UP, EVEN WHEN LIFE

HITS ROCK BOTTOM.

THAT MESSAGE IMPACTED THE

TEACHER EVEN MORE THAN THE

BASKETBALL TICKETS.

TAKE A LOOK.

TO COME FROM JUNIORS IN

HIGH SCHOOL, WHO ARE 16

AND 17 YEARS OLD, AND AS A

PARENT, AND WHAT IS GOING

ON IN THIS WORLD, AND ON

THE NEWS AND MEDIA, IT WAS

PRETTY AMAZING TO SEE SOME

YOUNG ADULTS DO THAT AND

SHOW THAT KIND OF

COMPASSION AND EMPATHY.

Terry: SO AFTER

SHARING THIS STORY ONLINE,

THE PHILADELPHIA 76ers

THREW IN ANOTHER 30

TICKETS SO THE STUDENTS

COULD JOIN HIM AND HIS

WIFE FOR A DATE NIGHT.

Gordon: THAT'S A BIG

DATE.

HATS OFF TO THE 6ers,

THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING

TO DO FOR THAT ENTIRE

CLASS.

THAT IS GREAT.

> UP NEXT, HOW TO LOVE

IN SPITE OF HURT AND

BETRAYAL.

NEW YORK CIT"NEW YORK TIMES"

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR

JENETZEN FRANKLIN JOINS US

TO TELL US HOW THAT IS

POSSIBLE, RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Gordon: AS

CHRISTIANS, WE'RE

WELL-AWARE OF THE CHAOS

THAT CAN SOMETIMES INVADE

OUR LIVES.

HOWEVER, WE OFTEN FORGET

THAT THOSE SHEPHERDING THE

FLOCK CAN FACE TROUBLING

TIMES AS WELL.

PASTOR JENETZEN FRANKLIN

IS SHARING HIS HOPE IN

LIGHT OF HURTFUL AND

TRYING TIMES.

Reporter: JENETZEN

FRANKLIN IS A "NEW YORK

TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR

AND THE PASTOR OF FREE

CHAPEL CHURCH IN

GAINESVILLE.

WHEN HIS OLDER DAUGHTER

BEGAN TO STRAY IN COLLEGE,

THERE WAS CONSTANT

FRICTION, AND LIFE BEHIND

CLOSED DOORS WAS LIKE A

WAR ZONE.

IN HIS BOOK, "LOVE LIKE

YOU'VE NEVER BEEN HURT," HURT,"

HE SHARES GLIMPSE OF THE

STRUGGLES IN LIFE, AND

OFFERS FOUR WAYS TO FIND

LOVE, EVEN IN THE MIDST OF

DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

Gordon: JENETZEN

FRANKLIN JOINS US NOW.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN

MARRIED 30 YEARS, AND WE

HAVE FIVE CHILDREN, FOUR

DAUGHTERS AND A SON, BORN

IN THAT ORDER.

WE WERE THE

PICTURE-PERFECT FAMILY.

THERE IS UNSEEN PRESSURE

OF BEING A PASTOR.

WE HAVE SIX CAMPUSES AND A

LOT OF PEOPLE, AND WE'RE

ON TELEVISION.

BUT WE WERE THE

PICTURE-PERFECT FAMILY,

AND THEN SHE WENT OFF TO

COLLEGE, AND THE SAME OLD

STORY, SHE JUST DID WHAT

SOME OF US DID, I DID.

SHE LIVED THE PARTY LIFE,

AND MADE SOME WRONG

CHOICES, BUT SHE GOT IN

DEEP.

AND WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS

WRONG.

I'LL NEVER FORGET, ONE DAY

I WAS PREPARING TO PREACH

AND HAD ABOUT 30 MINUTES,

AND MY WIFE BURST INTO MY

OFFICE, AND SHE WAS IN

TEARS.

AND SHE SAID, I GUESS -- I

GUESS IT WAS A WOMAN'S

INTUITION.

AND SHE SAID, WE HAVE TO

GO GET HER.

AND SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY

RIGHT.

WE DROVE UP TO THE SCHOOL,

BROUGHT HER HOME, AND

THERE WAS TEARS.

SHE WAS READY TO COME

HOME.

WE MIGHT HAVE SAVED HER

LIFE BRINGING HER HOME.

WE THOUGHT THINGS WERE ON

THE ROAD TO RECOVERY, BUT

IT GOT WORSE, IT GOT

DARKER, AND SHE RAN A

WEIGH.

WAY.

AND TO MAKE A LONG STORY

SHORT, IT DEVASTATED OUR

FAMILY, AND IT DEVASTATED

THE SIBLINGS, AND OUR HOME

DYNAMIC CHANGED.

THERE WERE A LOT OF

ARGUMENTS.

THIS WAS 10 YEARS AGO, AND

MY WIFE AND I JUST DECIDED

TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I

HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME,

GORDON.

SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED IN

OUR FAMILY, AND WE JUST

DON'T GET ALONG ANYMORE.

SOME HAVE RELATIVES ACROSS

THE CITY THAT YOU NEVER

EVEN TALK TO, HAVE A MEAL

WITH.

THERE IS A SICKNESS IN THE

BODY OF CHRIST.

THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG

AS CHRISTIANS THAT WE

CAN'T GET BEYOND OUR

CONFLICTS AND OUR HURTS

AND OUR FENCES.

Gordon: WITH YOUR

DAUGHTER, THERE WAS SORT

OF A DEFINING TEXT THAT

SHE SENT.

WHAT WAS THAT?

YEAH.

SHE HAD RAN AWAY FROM

HOME, AND SHE SENT A TEXT

AND SAID, MOM AND DAD, I'M

MARRIED.

I GOT MARRIED TODAY -- A

JUSTICE OF THE PEACE

MARRIED US.

AS A MINISTER, AS A

PREACHER, THAT WAS

DEVASTATING TO ME, TO HER

MOTHER.

WE WERE BROKEN.

AND THE NEXT WEEK I HAD A

WEDDING, AND IT WAS ONE OF

HER FRIENDS.

AND I WATCHED THE FATHER

WALK THAT DAUGHTER DOWN

AND GIVE HER AWAY, AND IT

DEVASTATED ME.

IT WAS EVERYTHING I COULD

DO TO HOLD IT TOGETHER.

AND IT BEGAN A BITTERNESS

IN ME.

THE BOOK IS NOT ABOUT -- I

THINK THE STORY OF MY

DAUGHTER IS ABOUT TWO

PAGES.

THE REST IS ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENED TO ME, AND HOW

THAT AFFECTED US, AND HOW

IT AFFECTEDED OUR AFFECTED OUR MARRIAGE,

AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE

OTHER SIBLINGS.

WE HAD SOME OTHER

CHALLENGES WITH THE OTHER

KIDS.

THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT WE

BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE IS I

REALIZED SOMETHING THAT

CHANGED.

I WAS BITTER.

I WAS MAD.

I WAS ANGRY.

I WAS EASILY SET OFF.

THAT'S NOT EVEN WHO I AM.

SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME --

I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN IT ALL

CAME TO A HEAD IS ONE OF

HER SISTERS WAS IN A BIG

ARGUMENT WITH THIS

DAUGHTER WHEN THINGS WERE

AT ITS WORSE, AND THEY

WERE SCREAMING AT ONE

ANOTHER.

AND SHE SAID, I HATE WHAT

YOU HAVE DONE TO OUR

DADDY.

I HATE HOW YOU HAVE

CHANGED HIM.

I HATE HOW HE DOESN'T

LAUGH, AND HE IS NOT FUN

LIKE HE WAS WHEN WE WERE

COMING UP.

AND THEN I REALIZED SHE

DIDN'T DO THAT.

I LET THE ENEMY DO THAT TO

ME.

I HAVE A FENCE.

I HAVE BITTERNESS.

I HAVE ANGER INSIDE OF ME.

AND THAT BEGAN A -- I

HEARD THIS PHRASE, "LOVE

LIKE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN

HURT," AND I DON'T KNOW

WHY, BUT IT HAD SUCH AN

ATTRACTION.

IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM --

THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY

SEWER, BUSURE, BUT THEY THINK

SACHAL PAIGE.

THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN

PITCHER IN PROFESSIONAL

BASEBALL.

HE IS IN THE HALL OF FAME.

BUT THEY WERE HURTLE

RACIAL INSULTS FROM THE

STANDS, AND A REPORTER

STUCK A MICROPHONE TO HIM

AFTER HIS FIRST GAME, AND

SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GOING

TO DO ABOUT THAT?

AND HE SAID, "I'M GOING TO

LOVE LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN

HURT."

AND THEN I GOT TO SEEING,

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JOSEPH

DID.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHEN HIS

FAMILY HURT HIM AND WENT

THROUGH EVERYTHING,

FALSELY ACCUSED HIM AND

OFFENDED HIM, HE LOVED

LIKE HE'D NEVER BEEN HURT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JESUS

DID.

Gordon: IT IS EASY TO

SAY THAT.

YES.

Gordon: BUT THERE IS

A PROCESS TO IT.

YES, THERE IS.

Gordon: SO WHAT WAS

THE PROCESS FOR YOU?

THIS IS SO TRUE.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING

THAT I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE

AWAY FROM THE BOOK, SOME

SOMETIMES IT IS NOT

INSTANT.

SOMETIMES -- YOU HEAR THIS

PHRASE "FORGIVE AND

FORGET."

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

HOW DO I FORGET?

HOW DO I FORGET IF

SOMEBODY ABUSED ONE OF MY

CHILDREN?

HOW DO I FORGET IF A

SPOUSE WALKED OFF AND LEFT

YOU WITH THREE KIDS AND A

BUNCH OF BILLS, AND

THEY'RE HAVING THE TIME OF

THEIR LIFE AND YOU'RE

GOING THROUGH HELL?

HOW DO I FORGET THAT

SOMEBODY STOLE HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A

BUSINESS DEAL?

IT'S NOT THAT YOU FORGET.

YOU REMEMBER IT

DIFFERENTLY.

IT ACTUALLY BECOMES A

POINT OF REFERENCE OF HOW

FAR GOD, BY HIS GRACE AND

HIS WORK IN YOUR LIFE, HAS

TAKEN YOU, AND YOU -- I

LOOK AT HOW GOD HAS HELPED

US, AND NOW MY DAUGHTERS,

ALL OF THEM ARE SERVING

THE LORD IN FULL-TIME

MINISTRY.

THE BATTLE I HAD WAS WITH

THE SON-IN-LAW.

AND HERE IS THE HONEST

TRUTHTRUTH -- I WISH I COULD

SAY TEARS FLOWED AND WE

HUGGED AND KISSED, BUT THE

TRUTH IS IT IS STILL, TO

THIS DAY -- IF I ALLOW IT,

THAT STUFF CAN COME UP IN

YOU.

I GIVE AN ILLUSTRATIONS IN

THE BOOK ABOUT THE OLD

KETCHUP BOTTLES -- NOW

THEY HAVE THE SQUEEZEABLE

KIND, AND IF YOU WANT IT,

YOU CAN SQUEEZE IT AND IT

COMES OUT.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW

FORGIVENESS IS, ESPECIALLY

WHEN YOU'VE BEEN HURT.

IT IS MORE LIKE THE OLD

GLASS BOTTLES.

HERE IS SOMETHING YOU'LL

FIND OUT IF YOU GO TO

HEINZ.COM, AND THEY SAID

ONLY 11% OF KETCHUP USERS

KNOW THIS, THAT THE REASON

THEY HAVE THE NUMBER 57 ON

THE HEINZ 57 KETCHUP

BOTTLE IT WAS

STRATEGICALLY DESIGNED IF

YOU WILL TAP WHERE THE 57

IS, IT WILL BRING THE

QUICKEST RELEASE OF THE

CONTENT.

IF YOU'VE EVER DONE THAT,

IT IS A SLOW PROCESS.

THAT'S HOW FORGIVENESS IS.

THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET

OPEN.

I'M OPEN TO

RECONCILIATION.

I REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE

FIRST MEALS WITH MY

FAMILY, IT WAS TIGHT.

IT WAS TENSE.

IT WAS AWKWARD.

IT WAS THE HOLIDAYS.

YOU JUST GET THROUGH IT

AND DO THE BEST YOU CAN.

BUT TAP, TAP, YOU ASK AND

KEEP ON ASKING, AND PRAY

AND KEEP ON PRAYING.

AND LITTLE BY LITTLE THE

GUSHES OF LOVE AND

RECONCILIATION BEGIN TO

HAPPEN.

I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT GOD

WANT TO DO IN MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE'S HOMES AND

FAMILIES.

Gordon: I BELIEVE HE

IS ASKING US FOR REC SILL

RECONCILIATION.

AND IT HAS TO START

WITH ME.

AT SOME POINT IT DOESN'T

EVEN MATTER WHO IS WRITE RIGHT

AND WHO IS WRONG.

AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO

SEPARATE THE ACTION FROM

THE PERSON.

WHEN I SAY I FORGIVE, IT

DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AGREE.

WHAT DID MAY HAVE BEEN

WRONG.

THERE IS NO DEFENDING IT.

BUT I CAN SEPARATE THE

PERSON FROM THE ACTION

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT JESUS

DOES FOR YOU, AND HE DOES

FOR ME.

EVERY DAY OF OUR LIFE HE

SAYS, I FORGIVE, AND NOW

HE SAYS, TURN AROUND AND

LOVE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER

BEEN HURT.

Gordon: AMEN.

AMEN.

HIS BOOK IS CALLED "LOVE

LIKE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN

HURT."

AND I THINK THIS IS

UNIVERSAL.

I THINK ALL OF US GO

THROUGH THIS, AND

REALIZING THAT LOVE COMES

FROM A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE

IN HIM.

THAT'S WHAT RELEASES IT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET IT.

IT IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER

BOOKS ARE SOLD.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT IS GREAT TO BE WITH

YOU.

Gordon: TERRY, OVER

TO YOU.

Terry: COMING UP, A

MAN AT THE END OF HIS

ROPE.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE

THING LEFT, AND THAT WAS

TO DIE OR MAKE A NEW

APPROACH AT LIVING.

Terry: FIND OUT WHO

HELPED HIM MAKE THE RIGHT

Terry: AFTER 10 YEARS

OF DRUG ADDICTION, WAYNE

BRADLEY WAS BARELY ALIVE.

HE WAS EMACIATED, SHUNNED

BY PEOPLE, AND LIVING

UNDER A BRIDGE.

WAYNE WAS ALSO SNATCHING

PURSES TO FEED HIS

ADDICTION UNTIL THE DAY

ONE OF HIS WOULD-BE

VICTIMS SHUT HIM DOWN WITH

A SIMPLE GESTURE.

WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO

90 POUNDS AND A SHOE

STRING AROUND YOUR WAIST

FOR A BELT, WHEN PEOPLE

LOCKED THEIR DOORS WHEN

THEY SEE YOU, WHEN YOU

HAVE GIVEN UP, THERE IS

ONLY ONE THING LEFT.

AND THAT'S TO DIE OR MAKE

A NEW APPROACH AT LIVING.

AND I WAS JUST TIRED.

I WAS JUST TIRED.

Reporter: WAYNE

BRADLEY'S STORY BEGINS

OVER 50 YEARS AGO, IN HIS

HOME ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

CHICAGO, WHERE HE WAS

PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY

ABUSED BY HIS FATHER.

YOU WERE ALWAYS

GUESSING.

ALWAYS GUESSING WHAT KIND

OF REACTION YOU WOULD

RECEIVE.

THERE WAS ALWAYS THE FEAR

THAT I THINK PERMEATED THE

AIR MORE THAN ANYTHING

ELSE.

Reporter: EMBARRASSED

ABOUT THE ABUSE, HE TOLD

NO ONE AND SOON BECAME A

LONER.

I WAS ALWAYS SCARED,

ALWAYS ASHAMED.

I WAS ALWAYS...I THINK

THAT EVEN IN THE PAIN AND

IN THE TIMES THAT I WAS

HURTING THE MOST, I WAS

ALWAYS AFRAID THAT

SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN,

THAT SOMETHING WOULD

HAPPEN.

BECAUSE I KNEW -- EVEN AT

THAT EARLY AGE, I KNEW

THAT IT COULDN'T GO ON

LIKE THAT FOREVER.

I JUST WAS ALWAYS AFRAID

THAT SOMETHING WOULD

HAPPEN.

AND IT DID.

IT DID.

Reporter: AFTER HIGH

SCHOOL, WAYNE JOINED THE

ARMY AND SERVED FOUR

YEARS.

FOR THE NEXT 16 YEARS, HE

WORKED AS A TRUCKER AND

THEN AS A SECURITY GUARD.

BUT DRUGS AND ALCOHOL WERE

A CONSTANT PROBLEM.

I THINK THE MAIN REASON

I WAS AN ADDICT, I ABUSED

SO MANY DRUGS, I WAS

BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO

HIDE.

I WAS TRYING TO HIDE NOT

ONLY FROM THE THINGS THAT

HAVE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE,

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO FACE

ME.

I WAS A USER AND ABUSER OF

PEOPLE.

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED

TO ME, I DID TO SOMEONE

ELSE.

I WAS NOT GOOD NEWS, NOT

GOOD NEWS.

FROM THE MILITARY TO '96,

I WAS A MESS.

Reporter: THAT MESS

WAS ABOUT TO GET MUCH

WORSE.

IT WAS APRIL 1996.

WAYNE WENT TO SEE HIS

PARENTS, ONLY TO FIND THEM

DEAD IN THEIR HOME.

BOTH HAD BEEN BRUTALLY

STABBED AND BEATEN.

THEN HE LEARNED THE KILLER

WAS HIS OLDER BROTHER,

CRAIG.

IT BECAME PROBABLY THE

BIGGEST CHALLENGE OF MY

LIFE.

I'M TELLING YOU, I WAS

TOTALLY MESSED UP.

AND I WAS STRUNG OUT ON

ALL KINDS OF DRUGS AND

ALCOHOL.

I WAS MAD AT MY FAMILY.

I WAS MAD AT MY DAD.

I WAS MAD AT GOD FOR

PUTTING ME IN SUCH A

SCREWED UP FAMILY.

Reporter: WAYNE LOST

HIS JOB, AND OVER THE NEXT

10 YEARS, HE BECAME

EMACIATED, SHUNNED BY

PEOPLE, AND BARELY ALIVE.

ULTIMATELY, IT ENDED UP

WITH ME LIVING UNDER A

BRIDGE IN HOMELESSNESS AND

ADDICTION.

AND I HAD SUBMITTED MY

LIFE TO THAT.

Reporter: WAYNE

BECAME A PURSE-SNATCHER TO

SUPPORT HIS ADDICTIONS.

ONE TIME AT A BUS STOP, HE

SAW AN OLDER LADY WHO WAS

A PERFECT TARGET.

I'M LOOKING AT HER

PURSE, AND SHE IS LOOKING

AT ME, AND SHE SAID, YOUNG

MAN, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO

TO ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO

KNOW THAT JESUS LOVES YOU.

AND IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY

THREW A BRICK IN MY FACE.

JESUS LOVES ME.

AND SHE SAID, LET ME SHOW

YOU SOMETHING.

AND SHE POINTED AT A

CROSS, AND IT WAS UP IN

THE SKY, AND IT WAS A 40

BY 40-FOOT CROSS AT A

PLACE CALLED "VICTORY

OUTREACH," AND SHE SAID,

THEY CAN HELP YOU IF YOU

AGREE TO GO WITH ME.

Reporter: WAYNE

AGREED TO GO WITH HER.

I WAS TIRED OF RUNNING.

I WAS TIRED OF HIDING.

I WAS TIRED OF BEING

SCARED.

I WAS TIRED OF LYING.

Reporter: AT THE

RECOVERY HOME, THE PEOPLE

TREATED WAYNE LIKE FAMILY,

AND HE LEARNED ABOUT JESUS

CHRIST FOR THE FIRST TIME.

WHAT I REALLY LEARNED

WAS THAT HE WAS REAL.

I SAW HIM IN THE PEOPLE

WHO ACCEPTED ME.

AND THEY ACCEPTED ME AT MY

WORSE.

THEY LOVED ME

UNCONDITIONALLY.

Reporter: WAYNE HAD A

GLIMPSE OF WHAT COULD BE,

BUT HIS ADDICTIONS WERE

STRONGER THAN HIS WILL TO

GET BETTER.

EIGHT MONTHS LATER, HE WAS

BACK ON THE STREETS

LOOKING FOR HIS NEXT FIX.

IN 2007, WAYNE WENT TO

PRISON FOR LARCENY.

PURSE-SNATCHING HAD

FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO HIM.

WHEN I GOT TO PRISON

WAS WHEN I REALLY FOUND

MYSELF ALONE.

AND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,

WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE

ANYTHING ELSE BUT GOD.

AND I GOT MY HANDS ON THE

BIBLE, AND I WAS READING

AND I WAS FINDING OUT MORE

AND MORE ABOUT JESUS.

AND I REALIZED THAT I WAS

RIGHT WHERE GOD WANTED ME

TO BE.

AND THAT'S WHEN I GAVE MY

LIFE TO JESUS.

I STARTED GETTING A

PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH

JESUS.

AND I WANTED MORE.

Reporter: AFTER

SERVING NINE MONTHS, WAYNE

WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON.

THAT SAME YEAR HE MARRIED

JACKIE.

GOD CHANGING HIM TO BE

A MAN WHO IS CONFIDENT IN

WHO HE IS IN GOD, AS A MAN

OF GOD, AND WHEN HE SPEAKS

TO YOU, HE SPEAKS TO YOU

FROM HIS HEART.

HE LOOKS IN YOUR EYES, AND

YOU CAN JUST SEE THE PAIN

AND THE SADNESS IS GONE,

AND IT HAS BEEN REPLACED

WITH A PEACE.

I'VE FORGIVEN MY

BROTHER FOR HIS CRIMES,

FOR THE MURDER OF MY

PARENTS.

WE TALK NOW.

HE CALLS -- ACTUALLY, HE

JUST CALLED THE OTHER DAY.

HE CALLS ON A REGULAR

BASIS.

WE WRITE TO HIM.

AND WE SEND HIM THINGS

THAT HE NEEDS.

Reporter: TOGETHER

WAYNE AND JACKIE FOUNDED

"I CAN" CELEBRATION

MINISTRY.

SOMETIMES THAT IS WHAT

HAS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO

GOD TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.

HE HAS TO GET YOU

SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE ARE

NO DISTRACTIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID FOR

ME.

Reporter: WAYNE NOW

HAS A NEW PERSPECTIVE ON

HIS STRUGGLE WITH ANGER.

I THOUGHT I WAS MAD AT

PEOPLE.

EVEN AT MY BROTHER WITH

THE MURDERS.

I THOUGHT I WAS MAD AT

HIM.

AND ALL THIS TIME I HAD

JUST BEEN MAD AT GOD

BECAUSE HE NEVER DID

THINGS THE WAY I THOUGHT

HE SHOULD.

BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY

GOD DID THINGS THE WAY HE

DID.

AND IT IS HIS GRACE.

HE IS TAKING US THROUGH

SOMETHING TO GET US TO

SOMETHING.

BUT I'M GOING TO PAY

ATTENTION TO JESUS.

WHEN HE SHOWS UP IN MY

LIFE, I'M GOING TO PAY

ATTENTION TO HIM.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

HERE IS THE GOOD THING:

JESUS WILL GO ANYWHERE.

AND HE'LL MEET YOU

WHEREVER YOU ARE.

Terry: HE'LL JUST

LOVE YOU TOO MUCH TO LET

YOU STAY THERE.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT HE

LEAVES THE 99 TO GO AFTER

THE ONE WHO IS LOST.

BOY, WAYNE HAS SO MUCH

TRUTH IN WHAT HE SHARES

WITH ALL OF US IN HIS

STORY.

WHEN THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU

WHEN YOU'RE A CHILD, THE

NUMBER ONE EMOTION THAT

MOST PEOPLE FEEL IS FEAR.

AND YOU JUST RUN.

YOU JUST HIDE.

YOU JUST WANT TO GET AWAY

FROM IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IT.

AND SO WE HARNESS ALL OF

THAT JUNK INSIDE OF US,

AND WE HANG ON TO IT.

AND WE LET IT, WITHOUT

REALIZING IT, BEGIN TO

DEFINE WHO WE ARE, BUT IT

IS NOT WHO WE WERE CREATED

TO BE.

YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD,

MADE IN THE IMAGE OF

LIKENESS OF YOUR HEAVENLY

FATHER.

HE CREATED YOU WITH PLAN

AND PURPOSE IN MIND.

AND HIS WORD SAYS THAT HE

SAW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE

EVER FORMED IN YOUR

MOTHER'S WOMB, KNEW YOU,

HAD YOUR NAME CARVED IN

THE PALM OF HIS HAND,

WANTED TO CALL YOU HIS

OWN, INVITED YOU INTO HIS

PRESENCE, INTO HIS FAMILY.

YOU KNOW, EARLIER PASTOR

FRANKLIN WAS TALKING ABOUT

THE POWER OF FORGIVENESS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF

WHAT HAPPENED IN WAYNE'S

LIFE.

HE LET GO.

HE SAID, GOD, THIS ISN'T

WHO I WANT TO BE.

THIS ISN'T HOW I WANT TO

LIVE.

THESE FEELINGS, EVEN ANGER

TOWARDS GOD -- THIS IS NOT

WHAT I KNOW WILL MAKE MY

LIFE MATTER.

I'M LETTING GO OF IT, AND

I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU

BE GOD.

IT IS THE BEGINNING OF AN

AMAZING JOURNEY OF

FORGIVENESS, OF HEALING,

OF WHOLENESS AND VISION

FOR WHO YOU ARE, FOR THE

FUTURE GOD INTENDED FOR

YOU.

NO MATTER WHAT HAS

HAPPENED TO YOU, NO MATTER

WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE

YOU'RE AT TODAY.

GOD'S LOVE IS EXTENDED THE

YOU.

IF YOU NEED TO PRAY WITH

SOMEONE ABOUT HEALING BE

WHOLENESS AND FORGIVENESS,

OUR NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.

AND THE PERSON WHO IS

ANSWERING IT IS SOMEBODY

WHO HAS ALREADY FOUND

THAT.

1-800-700-7000.

CALL NOW.

A FRIEND IS STANDING BY TO

TALK WITH YOU.

GORDON?

Gordon: HERE IS A

WORD IN CLOSING, FROM

COLOSSIANS 3: "IN

WHATEVER YOU DO, DO IT

HEARTEDLY AS TO THE LORD

AND NOT TO MEN."

THAT'S A GOOD WORD TO

MEDITATE ON.

WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, LET

US DO IT UNTO THE LORD.

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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