Two-time Grammy-winner, Smokie Norful discusses how trusting God brings life’s greatest fulfillment.
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Terry: HE IS A
MULTI-WINNING GRAMMY
ARTIST AND PASTOR.
FIND OUT HOW SMOKIE NORFUL
IS RELEASING THE PRESSURE,
AND HOW YOU CAN REACH YOUR
FULL POTENTIAL BY SIMPLY
TAKING THE LID OFF.
PLUS...
EVERY TIME I ASKED, HOW
CAN I PRAY FOR YOU?
THE ONLY ANSWER I GOT
THERE WAS, PRAY THAT WE
CAN FIND FOOD TOMORROW.
Terry: HOW CBN'S
"SUPERBOOK" IS MAKING A
DIFFERENCE IN THE WAR-TORN
MIDDLE EAST.
ALL OF THAT AND MORE ON
TODAY'S "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE."
Gordon: WELL, WELCOME
TO THE SHOW.
HERE IS A LOOK AT THIS
WEEK'S TOP FIVE STORIES
FROM "STUDIO 5."
Efrem: AT NUMBER
FIVE...
[YELLING]
[CHEERING]
YOU GET A CAR!
YOU GET A CAR!
YOU GET A CAR!
EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!
Efrem: OPRAH
CONTINUES HER GIVING WAYS
IN ATLANTA.
SHE IS IN TOWN TONIGHT,
CELEBRATING THE RON CLARK
ACADEMY'S 10th
ANNIVERSARY.
THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE
EVENING...
I'M SO MOVED BY
EVERYTHING I EVERYBODY I
HAVE MET HERE TONIGHT. AND
I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS
GOING TO MATCH YOUR HALF
MILLION, BUT I NOW DECIDED
I'M GOING TO GIVE
$5 MILLION.
$5 MILLION!
[CHEERING]
[APPLAUSE]
TO THE RON CLARK
ACADEMY.
Efrem: THE RON CLARK
ACADEMY IS A HIGHLY
ACCLAIMED NON-PROFIT
MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THE REASON WHY I'M
HERE -- I'M GIVING UP MY
TIME FOR FREE TO BE HERE,
TO SUPPORT THEM, IS TO SAY
BRAVO FOR DOING THIS.
THERE IS NOT A BETTER
SCHOOL, ORGANIZATION,
INSTITUTION IN THE U.S.A.
Efrem: AT NUMBER
FOUR...THE CHRISTIAN POST
HIGHLIGHTS THESE FOUR
UP-AND-COMING CHRISTIANS
IN COMEDY.
THERE IS JOHN CHRIS.
YOU WALK IN THE
BUILDING AND YOU'RE NOT
SURE IF IT IS A CHURCH.
Efrem: TAMILLA
JOHNSON.
I HAVE A BAD HABIT OF
JUDGING PEOPLE.
Efrem: KEVIN
FREDERICK.
ASK YOURSELF...WHY?
WHY?
WHY?
IS THIS REALLY ANYTHING
PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN
BEFORE?
Efrem: AND YVONNE
ORGI.
THERE IS ONE BIG
OBSTACLE, THE ONLY GANG
STAR WITH A CAPITAL STAR.
Efrem: AT NUMBER
THREE...DISNEY IS
ENLISTING A SUPERSTAR CAST
FOR ITS LIVE ACTION REMAKE
OF "THE LION KING."
AND EVERYBODY IS GOING
CRAY OVER BAY.
BEYONCE IS NOW OFFICIALLY
ON BOARD TO PLAY NYLA.
ROUNDING OUT THE CAST,
JAMES EARL JONES WILL PLAY
MUFASSA.
Efrem: "THE LION
KING" REMAKE HITS THEATERS
IN THE SUMMER OF 2019.
AKUMA MATATA, AND IT
MEANS DON'T WORRY.
Efrem: AT NUMBER
TWO...
IT WILL DEBUT SUNDAY,
MARCH 11.
NO WORD IF IT WILL AIR ONE
NIGHT A WEEK OR TWO NIGHTS
A WEEK, LIKE IT USED TO.
Efrem: AT NUMBER
ONE...
I'LL TAKE OVER, BECAUSE
IN THE ARC CHE ARCHITECTURE OF
THIS FIRM, I'M A WINNER.
Efrem: "ALL RISE,"
DENZEL WASHINGTON DELIVERS
A PERFORMANCE IN ROMAN JAY
ISRAEL.
ISRAEL IS AN ACTIVIST
ATTORNEY, AND WASHINGTON
BELIEVES IT IS IMPORTANT
HE USE A PLATFORM TO SHINE
A LIGHT ON HIS CHRISTIAN
FAITH.
Efrem: DOES FAITH
REQUIRE ACTIVISM FOR US TO
BE ACTIVE?
WELL, YOU HAVE TO USE
YOUR GIFTS.
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS
NOTHING.
SO NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO BE
AN ACTIVIST.
A WOMAN PROPHESIED YEARS
AND YEARS EG THA AGO I WOULD
TRAVEL THE WORLD AND
PREACHED TO MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
AND I HAVE TRAVELLED THE
WORLD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
I'M A PREACHER, BUT
THROUGH MY WORKS I'VE
SPOKEN.
AND I ASKED MY PASTOR,
DOES THAT MEAN I'M
SUPPOSED TO PREACH?
AND HE SAID, NO, YOU
ALREADY HAVE A PULPIT.
HE DIDN'T SAY STAY IN YOUR
LANE, BUT TRY TO BE AN
AGENT FOR GOOD.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT
NOW.
I'M IN THE SERVICE
BUSINESS.
Efrem: ROMAN J.ISRAEL
ESQUIRE IS IN THEATERS IN
TIME FOR THANKSGIVING.
WHAT IS A SISTER
STANDING IN A BROTHER'S
SEATING?
AND POLITE?
Efrem: EFREM IS WITH
US HERE LIVE.
YOU'VE GOT TO ADMIRE
DENZEL.
HE IS HITTING IT OUT OF
THE PARK.
Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.
THE PERFORMANCE IN THIS
FILM IS AMAZING.
HE GAINED 30 POUNDS, GREW
HIS HAIR OUT TO HAVE A
FRO.
HE IS AN ACTIVIST ATTORNEY
STUCK IN A TIME WARP.
DEALING WITH MILLENNIALS,
AND STRUGGLING WITH HOW DO
I MATTER AND HOW DO I
REMAIN RELEVANT IN THIS
TIME.
AND AS DENZEL SAYS, HE
PLAYED HIM A BIT ON THE
SPECTRUM.
HE IS AWKWARD IN SOCIAL
EVENTS.
DENZEL SERVED AS A
PRODUCER ON THIS FILM.
BOTH HE AND THE DIRECTOR
ARE BELIEVERS.
HE AND DAN GILROY STARTED
EVERY DAY ON THE SET WITH
SCRIPTURE AND PRAYER.
HE BELIEVES HE MUST USE
HIS PLATFORM TO DO GOOD
AND BE A WITNESS --
Gordon: IT SEEMS LIKE
HE IS GETTING INTO THIS
WHOLE -- I DON'T KNOW IF
SEASON IS THE RIGHT WORD.
HE IS GETTING INTO A NEW
PHASE WHERE HE SEEMS TO BE
FAR MORE VOCAL ABOUT --
NOT THAT HE WAS SHY
BEFORE, BUT HE IS
DEFINITELY GOING OUT FRONT
WITH IT.
Efrem: IT IS
INTENTIONAL.
IT IS ON PURPOSE.
AND THAT IS HIS PLAN.
IN OUR CONVERSATION, HE
TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT
HE NO LONGER DRINKS
ALCOHOL.
HE HAS GIVEN UP THAT.
AND HE IS REALLY PUSHING
AND CHALLENGING EVERYONE
TO RISE UP.
AND THE SUBTITLE OF THE
FILM IS "ALL RISE,"
TELLING PEOPLE TO RISE UP
AND LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH
MORE PUBLICLY.
AND HE ENCOURAGES
MILLENNIALS NOT TO BE
ASHAMED OF JESUS CHRIST.
HE IS ANTI-SOCIAL MEDIA,
BUT HE SAYS, IF YOU'RE
GOING TO USE IT, USE IT AS
A PLATFORM TO MAKE CHANGE
AND TO DO GOOD, AND NOT
FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING IT
PLAY OUT MORE OFTEN THAN
NOT.
Gordon: I WONDER IF
WE SHOULD TRAVEL WITH HIM?
Efrem: I THINK WE
SHOULD.
I'LL VOLUNTEER.
Gordon: IF THAT'S A
PROPHECY, LET'S MAKE IT
HAPPEN.
Efrem: I LIKE THE WAY
YOU THINK.
[LAUGHTER]
Gordon: I LIKE HIM.
I ADMIRED HIS CAREER.
I'VE ADMIRED HIS
ABILITIES.
HE CERTAINLY DOES HAVE A
PULL PIT WITPULPIT WITH THAT ABILITY.
WHAT I REALLY ADMIRE IS HE
IS UNASHAMED.
AND IN TODAY'S CULTURE,
THAT IS SEEMINGLY GETTING
TO BE HARDER.
Efrem: YES, INDEED,
ESPECIALLY IN HOLLYWOOD.
LITERALLY, I HAVE GONE TO
THE CHURCHES WHERE HE
ATTENDS BOTH IN NEW YORK
AND IN L.A., AND WHEN YOU
GO, YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW
FOR SURE DENZEL IS GOING
TO BE THERE, AND
WORSHIPPING IN FRONT OF
THOUSANDS AS WELL.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.
Gordon: OKAY.
"AMERICAN IDOL" COMING
BACK?
Efrem: IT IS COMING
BACK IN MARCH.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW MANY
OF THE DETAILS, BUT IT IS
COMING BACK.
LIONEL RICHIE HAS LICENSED
THE PHRASE THAT HE THINKS
HE IS GOING TO MAKE
POPULAR ON THE SHOW, AND
IT'S "HERE COMES THE
JUDGE."
OLD OF US TO KNOW KNOWS
THAT IS OLD.
HE IS HOPING FOR IT TO
CATCH ON.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS
GOING TO BE ONE NIGHT OR
TWO NIGHTS.
Gordon: THAT WAS A
COMEDY LINE FROM THE
'60s.
Efrem: I WASN'T
AROUND, BUT I DO REMEMBER
THAT.
Gordon: I WAS AROUND.
[LAUGHTER]
Gordon: IT DOES BEG
THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT
GO AWAY?
Efrem: IT WAS VERY
EXPENSIVE TO DO.
IT WAS NOT AS POPULAR --
IT WAS GETTING EXPENSIVE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
SALARIES --
Gordon: VERSUS
SCRIPTED DRAMA?
Efrem: WELL, NOT IN
COMPARISON.
Gordon: I'LL PUT MY
PRODUCER HAT ON AND I'LL
TAKE LIVE TELEVISION EVERY
DAY OVER SCRIPTED.
AND SCRIPTED, THE BUDGETS
ALWAYS GO UP.
Efrem: AND RYAN SEE
SEACREST'S SALARY WENT UP.
Gordon: AND THEY WENT
AND GOT NEW JUDGES.
Efrem: YES, THEY DID,
AND THEIR SALARIES AREN'T
QUITE AS HIGH.
Gordon: ALL RIGHT.
DISNEY IS TAKING "LION
KING" INTO LIVE ACTION.
I'M WONDERING, IS THAT
GOING TO WORK?
Efrem: THIS HAS BEEN
A TREND FOR ANIMATION.
THEY LITERALLY PULLED OUT
ALL OF THE STOPS FOR THE
CAST.
YOU HAVE BEYONCE SIGNING
ON AND JAMES EARL JONES --
THEY ARE REALLY PULLING
OUT ALL OF THE STOPS TO DO
THIS LIVE ANIMATION.
I WOULD SAY FOR ME, "LION
KING" IS MY FAVORITE
DISNEY STORY TO WATCH.
IT IS THE ONE THAT I
STILL, TO THIS DAY, WHEN I
WATCH, I WATCH WITH A
NOTEBOOK AND TAKE NOTES OF
QUOTES AND THINGS I LEARN
FROM THE FILM.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT
THEY DO WITH THIS.
THAT HAS BEEN THEIR NEW
THING, MAKING THE ANIMATED
LIVE ACTION FILMS.
Gordon: WHO KNEW?
[LAUGHTER]
Efrem: I HAVE A
SON --
Gordon: THE CIRCLE OF
LIFE.
Efrem: YOU GOT IT,
AND NOW COVERING IT.
Gordon: WELL, WE'VE
GOT CHRISTIAN COMEDIANS,
WHICH, AGAIN, SEEM TO BE
GOING AGAINST TYPE THESE
DAYS.
BUT I APPLAUD IT.
I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL
THAT THERE ARE NEW NAMES
COMING UP, AND THEY WANT
TO BE KNOWN, I'M A
CHRISTIAN COMIC.
I'M A CLEAN COMIC.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEM?
Efrem: THEY'RE DOING
VERY WELL.
ALL FOUR ARE SUCCESSFUL.
THE THING ABOUT IT IS THEY
ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR
OWN RIGHT, NAVIGATING
THEIR OWN WAY.
YVONNE ORGI, SHE IS FAMOUS
FOR THE HBO SERIOUS
"INSECURE."
NOW, THAT SCRIPT IS PRETTY
DARING, AND WHENEVER SHE
SITS DOWN FOR AN
INTERVIEW, PEOPLE
CHALLENGE HER FOR BEING A
PART OF IT.
AND SHE SAID SHE PROMISED
GOD, WHATEVER PLATFORM HE
GAVE HER, SHE WOULD NOT BE
ASHAMED TO USE IT.
SHE IS USING THAT PLATFORM
TO TALK ABOUT PURITY, AND
THE FACT SHE IS IN HER
30s, NEVER BEEN MARRIED,
AND REMAINING A VIRGIN
UNTIL THAT DAY COMES.
AND GETTING A LOT OF
ATTENTION FOR DOING THAT
AND SPEAKING OUT AND
SAYING THAT.
ALL OF THE COMEDIANS ARE
SAYING THE VERY SAME
THING, USING THEIR
PLATFORM TO MAKE PEOPLE
LAUGH, BUT ALSO TO BE A
WITNESS TO JESUS CHRIST.
Gordon: HAROLD TOLD
ME ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, AND
WE WERE QUESTIONING
DIFFERENT VENUES.
AND HE SAID, GORDON, IF I
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PRECH IPREACH IN HELL, I'D TAKE
IT.
IT REALLY DOES SUM IT ALL
UP, WHEREVER YOU CAN GO.
Efrem: THAT'S RIGHT.
Gordon: AND WHEREVER
YOU CAN BE A LIGHT.
Efrem: AND WHERE
THERE IS DARKNESS, THAT'S
WHERE LIGHT IS NEEDED THE
MOST.
Gordon: OKAY.
OPRAH IS AT IT AGAIN.
Efrem: SHE IS AT IT
AGAIN.
$5 MILLION TO THE RON
CLARK ACADEMY.
THIS GENTLEMAN SHE MET ON
THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW
BACK IN 2001.
HE WAS A TEACHER IN NORTH
CAROLINA, WHO WAS AWARDED
BEING ONE OF THE BEST
TEACHERS IN THE COUNTRY.
HE HAS TAUGHT IN HARLEM,
AND OPENED AN ACADEMY FOR
DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN.
MAKING A HUGE IMPACT AND
DIFFERENCE.
SHE SPOKE AT THE SCHOOL'S
FIRST GRADUATION IN 2010.
AND THEY'RE MARKING THEIR
ANNIVERSARY NOW.
THAT NIGHT, ALL TOTAL,
WITH HER $5 MILLION GIFT,
THEY RAISED $12 MILLION TO
BUILD A PERFORMANCE ART
ACADEMY ON TO THAT SCHOOL.
Gordon: YAY!
Efrem: YAY!
Gordon: ANY TIME YOU
CAN EDUCATE CHILDREN,
PARTICULARLY DISADVANTAGED
CHILDREN, TAKE IT.
Efrem: AND TO SEE THE
LIVES CHANGED.
THESE CHILDREN ARE IN
TEARS, SAYING THIS TEACHER
WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO NOT
GIVE UP ON THEM.
EVEN DESPITE THEIR BAD
BEHAVIOR, HE NEVER GAVE UP
ON THEM.
AND HE ACTUALLY GOES TO
THE HOMELESS, EVERY SINGLE
KID, AND MEET WITH THE
PARENTS AND SEE WHAT THEIR
LIVING CONDITIONS ARE
LIKE.
Gordon: IT
UNDERSCORES THE POWER OF
EXPECTATION.
IF YOU EXPECT TO SUCCEED,
THEN YOU WILL.
IF YOU EXPECT TO FAIL, IT
WILL BECOME A
SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.
> WELL, IF YOU WANT TO
KEEP UP ON ENTERTAINMENT
NEWS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
IS GO TO EFREM'S WEEKLY
SHOW, "STUDIO 5," AND YOU
CAN WATCH THE IT ONLINE
AT cbn.com/studio5.
WELL, UP NEXT, HE WAS
BILLBOARD'S NUMBER ONE
GOSPEL ARTIST AND HAD TWO
GOLD ALBUMS.
FIND OUT WHY AT THE HEIGHT
OF HIS CAREER, SMOKE SMOKIE
NORFUL SAID HE WAS
MISERABLE.
Gordon: WELL, FEAR,
DOUBT, AND FRUSTRATION ARE
SADLY COMMON, AND EVEN
AMONG CHRISTIANS.
GRAMMY-WINNER AND PASTOR
SMOKIE NORFUL SAYS
RELIEVING THE PRESSURE IS
AS SIMPLE AS TAKING THE
LID OFF.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: BY 2004,
GOSPEL ARTIST SMOKIE
NORFUL WAS AT THE HEIGHT
OF HIS CAREER.
HE WON A GRAMMY IN 2005
AND WAS LIVING THE DREAM,
BUT HE FELT LIKE SOMETHING
WAS MISSING IN HIS LIFE.
AND AFTER RECORDING IN THE
STUDIO ONE DAY, HE DECIDED
TO START A CHURCH.
TODAY SMOKIE IS THE SENIOR
PASTOR OF VICTORY
CATHEDRAL WORSHIP IN
CHICAGO, WHICH MEETS ON
THREE CAMPUSES.
IN 2015, HE WON HIS SECOND
GRAMMY.
IN HIS BOOK, "TAKE THE LID
OFF," SMOKIE SHARES WHY HE
SAID YES TO MINISTRY AND
MUSIC, AND OFFERS
PRACTICAL TIPS ON LIVING
LIFE WITHOUT LIMITATIONS.
Gordon: SMOKIE JOINS
US, AND IT IS AN HONOR TO
HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU.
Gordon: WHAT I'M
HEARING IS YOU ARE LIVING
THE DREAM, YOUR WINNING
AWARDS, YOU'RE BEING VERY
SUCCESSFUL WITH YOUR
VOICE, AND YET YOU'RE NOT
HAPPY.
IT WAS A HUGE LACK OF
PEACE.
THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF
ANYTHING THAT CAN REPLACE
OR PAY FOR YOUR PEACE.
FOR ME, I WAS IN THAT
SEASON OF HAVING THE
DESIRES OF MY HEART BEING
FULFILLED AND THE JOYS OF
ALL OF THE TRAPPINGS THAT
COME WITH CELEBRITY, WITH
REACHING THE TOP OF ANY
VOCATION.
AND IN MY REGARD, IT WAS
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
AND STILL NOT FINDING ANY
KIND OF PEACE OR REST OR
RESOLVE, AND FEELING LIKE
SOMETHING WAS MISSING.
ULTIMATELY, I HAD TO YIELD
AND REALIZE, GOD, I'M
DOING WHAT I WANT TO DO,
BUT AM I REALLY DOING WHAT
YOU WANT ME TO DO?
THAT WAS ULTIMATELY THE
MISSING COMPONENT.
Gordon: SO YOU'RE IN
THE MIDDLE OF A RECORDING
SESSION --
YES.
Gordon: -- AND
SUDDENLY YOU START SAYING,
I'M GOING TO START A
CHURCH.
I HAD BEEN FEELING THAT
FOR A LONG TIME.
WE EXPECT THAT IT IS GOING
TO BE THIS SUDDEN,
INSTANTANEOUS MOMENT, BUT
THE MOMENT WAS THE
BREAKING POINT.
I EVEN GOT TO A PLACE -- I
GOT TO THE PLACE, AND
PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED WHEN I
SAY THIS -- I WAS A
P.K. --
Gordon: P.K.MEANS A
PASTOR'S KID.
SO YOU GREW UP IN CHURCH.
I GREW UP IN CHURCH.
I LIVED IN CHURCH.
Gordon: EVERY
WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY
MORNING AND USUALLY SUNDAY
AFTERNOON.
ABSOLUTELY.
I HAD A DRUG PROBLEM
GROWING UP -- MY PARENTS
DRUG ME TO EVERY SERVICE.
[LAUGHTER]
HAVING THAT EXPOSURE,
HAVING THAT FOUNDATION, I
REALIZED WHAT WAS RIGHT.
I KNEW WHAT WAS RIGHT.
BUT I GOT TO A POINT WHERE
I STOPPED GOING TO CHURCH
BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A
PEACE.
AND I WAS RUNNING FROM
ANYTHING THAT WOULD
PROVIDE ME THE
ACCOUNTABILITY TO KNOW,
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
DOING THIS.
THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE
FOR YOU.
AND SO I REALLY KIND OF
TRIED TO ESCAPE WITHIN
MYSELF.
ONLY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU
CAN'T RUN.
I COULD CONTINUE DOING
WHAT I WAS DOING, CONTINUE
TO BE NUMBER ONE ON THE
CHARTS, CONTINUE TO WORK
HARD, BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE
FULFILLMENT.
I WOULD NOT HAVE PEACE.
THAT WAS ULTIMATELY ME
SAYING GOD, OKAY, YES.
THE STUDIO POINT WAS JUST
A BREAKING POINT.
I SAID, GOD, I KNOW, I
KNOW, I KNOW -- LET ME GO
AHEAD AND JUMP IN AND DO
WHAT I'M CALLED TO DO.
SO MY COMPROMISE WAS A
BIBLE STUDY.
Gordon: SO IT WASN'T,
I'M GOING TO START A
CHURCH.
NO, NO, NO.
Gordon: I'M GOING TO
PUT MY BIG TOE IN.
EXACTLY.
Gordon: AND NOT GO
ALL IN.
EXACTLY.
AND SO ONCE -- ULTIMATELY,
ONCE I FINALLY GOT TO THE
POINT OF STARTING A BIBLE
STUDY, GOD IS SO AMAZING,
AND I LOVE THE WAY THAT HE
HUHUMORS.
WE WENT FROM 12, AND A
MONTH, WE HAD 100 PEOPLE,
AND TWO OR THREE MONTHS,
WE HAD 200 OR 300 PEOPLE.
AND I'M, LIKE, GOD, WAIT A
MINUTE, THIS IS A BIBLE
STUDY.
Gordon: THIS IS
BIGGER THAN MY LIVING
ROOM.
EXACTLY.
Gordon: WHERE DO YOU
MEET WITH 300 PEOPLE FOR A
BIBLE STUDY?
WE WENT TO A HOTEL.
I WENT INTO A LITTLE SMALL
SMALL ROOM.
I FIRST STARTED IN A
CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS
COOL.
AND THEN I SAID, WE NEED A
LITTLE BIGGER SPACE.
QUIT TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT
THE BIBLE STUDY.
I'M GOING TO BLESS YOU
WITH THIS MIRACLE, BUT
DON'T TELL EVERYBODY.
AGAIN, WE JUST GREW INSIDE
THAT HOTEL UNTIL
EVENTUALLY I HAD TO LAUNCH
AND GO INTO A HIGH SCHOOL,
A BIG, HUGE HIGH SCHOOL
AUDITORIUM, AND WE WERE
THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS
BEFORE EVEN GETTING OUR
OWN PERMANENT FACILITY.
Gordon: YOU'VE GOT A
BUILDING NOW?
WE HAVE SEVERAL
BUILDINGS NOW.
Gordon: YOU HAVE
THREE CAMPUSES --
YES.
Gordon: GOD IS
BLESSING YOU AND IT KEEPS
GROWING --
YES.
Gordon: HOW IS YOUR
HAPPINESS LEVEL?
I THINK HAPPINESS COMES
AND GOES.
WHATEVER YOUR
CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE
OUTSIDE CAN DETERMINE AND
DICTATE YOUR HAPPINESS.
BUT MY JOY LEVEL IS
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
AND THAT REALLY -- YOU
CAN'T TOUCH THAT WITH ANY
EXTERNAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU
GET WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR IN
THE WILL OF GOD, WHEN
YOU'RE WALKING IN THE
PEACE OF LIFE, AND YOU'RE
FEELING LIKE, THIS IS WHAT
I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SO MY JOY LEVEL IS THROUGH
THE ROOF.
EVEN THOUGH HAPPINESS --
YOU HAVE GOOD DAYS AND YOU
HAVE BAD DAYS.
THAT BECOMES OUR
MOTIVATION, AND IF IT IS
NOT CAREFUL, WE BECOME OUR
FOCAL POINT.
WE THINK EVERY DAY WITH
GOD IS SUPPOSED TO BE
HAPPY.
Gordon: YOU'VE GOT A
CHAPTER IN YOUR BOOK,
"TAKE THE LID OFF," THAT
REALLY HIT ME.
GIVING YOURSELF AWAY.
YES.
Gordon: I JUST THINK
THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL TO
THE CHRISTIAN LIFE, THAT
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE
OURSELVES AWAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF
US, WHEN WE GET READY TO
TAKE THE LID OFF AND
EXPERIENCE THIS ABUNDANT
LIFE THAT WE WANT SO
BADLY, WE SKIP OVER, YOU
KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT
CHRIST SAID AS IT RELATES
TO US GIVING OURSELVES OR
PRESENTING OURSELVES TO
OTHER PEOPLE.
BUT OVER AND OVER AND
AGAIN, THAT'S THE MESSAGE
OF THE GOSPEL.
IT IS A MESSAGE THAT SAYS,
YOU'VE GOT TO PRESENT
YOURSELF TO OTHERS IN
ORDER TO BE FULFILLED IN
YOURSELF.
WE'RE VERY SELFISH PEOPLE.
IT IS PART OF OUR HUMAN
NATURE.
NOBODY HAS TO TEACH A
CHILD TO SAY MONEY.
IT IS INSTANT.
YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM TO
SHARE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE
TO TEACH THEM TO SAY, NO,
MINE.
SO WE WORK ALL OF OUR
LIVES TO OVERCOME THAT.
AND WE REALLY NEVER WILL
BE FULFILLED WITHIN
OURSELVES, NEVER TRULY
HAVE JOY, NEVER KNOW REAL
PEACE UNTIL WE GET OVER
OURSELVES AND STOP BEING
SO SELF-CENTERED, AND
REALIZE THAT OUR LIVES ARE
REALLY PRESENTATIONS TO
OTHERS SO THAT GOD CAN GET
THE GLORY OUT OF THEM.
Gordon: I LOVE THE
ILLUSTRATION IN THE BOOK
WHERE YOU'RE HAVING A
BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR ONE OF
YOUR KIDS, AND YOU'RE
GETTING AWLG OF THE ALL OF THE
PRESENTS, AND ON THE WAY
HOME, YOU DECIDE I' I'M GOING
TO GIVE A LIFE LESSON
HERE.
YOU SAID, YOU CAN HAVE
THREE OF THE PRESENTS, BUT
I NEED YOU TO GIVE AWAY
ALL OF THE OTHERS FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDY.
RIGHT.
IT WAS A FAITH-WALKING
MOMENT, THAT I WASN'T
CRUCIFIED WHEN I GOT HOME,
THAT MY KIDS DIDN'T DO
SOMETHING TO ME WHILE I
WAS SLEEPING.
BUT IT REALLY PROVED TO BE
A REALLY VALUABLE LESSON
FOR THEM THAT HAS NOW
CARRIED OVER INTO THEIR
LIVES, THAT I DON'T HAVE
TO PUT THAT MANDATE UPON
THEM.
I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THEM
CHOOSE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL ME,
DAD, WE NEED TO GIVE TO
THIS.
WE NEED TO DO THAT.
THEY REALIZE THE VALUE OF
GIVING.
THEY KNOW OUR BLESSINGS AS
A RESULT OF BEING GENEROUS
TO OTHER PEOPLE, TO GIVE
THEMSELVES AWAY.
I HAVE A THING AT MY
CHURCH, AND IT IS GIVE
YOURSELF AWAY.
"LIVE TO BE MISSED, NOT
JUST REMEMBERED."
THAT IS OUR MANTRA.
"LIVE TO BE MISSED, NOT
JUST REMEMBERED."
SO I TEACH MY KIDS, AND IT
STARTED THERE AS BABIES.
YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THE
CHURCH MEMBERS POURING OWL ALL
OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR
LAP, AND YOU HAVE THE
FAVOR OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE,
BUT YOU HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE
THERE ARE OTHERS WHO DON'T
HAVE IT.
IF THEY WERE GONE, I SAID,
WHO WOULD MISS YOU.
YOU?
NOT REMEMBER YOU.
WHO WOULD ACTUALLY MISS
YOU?
IF WE WERE OUT OF THE
COMMUNITY, WOULD SOMEBODY
SAY, MAN, WE SURE MISS
WHAT THEY DID FOR US AND
FOR THE COMMUNITY.
OR WOULD THEY JUST SAY,
YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT
CHURCH?
THAT'S A HUGE PART OF ME,
AS AN INDIVIDUAL, MY
FAMILY, AND EVEN OUR
CHURCH FAMILY.
Gordon: YOU CAN TELL,
SMOKIE, BORN TO BE A
PASTOR.
HE IS NOT GOING TO STOP
WITH THREE CAMPUSES.
HE IS GOING TO KEEP
GROWING.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET
THIS BOOK "TAKE THE LID
OFF."
IF YOU'RE FRUSTRATED IN
LIFE, WHAT'S GOD'S PLAN
FOR YOU AND WHAT ARE THE
POCKETPOSSIBILITIES FOR YOU --
READ THIS.
IF THERE ARE PRESSURES ON
YOUR LIFE, IT IS A GREAT
SILLILLUSTRATION.
AND HE HAS A 12-TRACK
DIGITAL ONLY ALBUM CALLED
"NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE."
YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW YOU
CAN GET IT AT cbn.com
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Gordon: KEEP
PREACHING.
THANK YOU.
Gordon: COMING UP, A
LIFE CHANGED BY THE POWER
OF "SUPERBOOK."
I GREW UP IN A WAR
ZONE.
THE ONLY FUN PART OF THE
DAY WAS WHEN MY
GRANDMOTHER HAD ME WATCH
"SUPERBOOK."
Gordon: FIND OUT HOW
"SUPERBOOK" IS CHANGING
LIVES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
THAT'S UP NEXT.
Gordon: WELL, THE
FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE
EAST HAS DRIVEN MILLIONS
FROM HOMES.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
MONTHS, SOME REFUGEES ARE
NOW SMILING THANKS TO
CBN'S "SUPERBOOK."
Reporter: THE UNITED
NATIONS NOW ESTIMATES THAT
ONE TO TWO MILLION PEOPLE
LIVE AS REFUGEES INTENTS
AND CAMPS LIKE THIS IN THE
NATION OF LEBANON.
IT WAS INTO THIS PLACE OF
SUFFERING THAT ELIAN CAME
TO BRING HOPE THROUGH
"SUPERBOOK," TO THE LAND
OF HER BIRTH.
THE FIRST STEP ON HER
JOURNEY WAS A CHURCH
INSIDE BEIRUT, WHICH HAD
TAKEN IN 150 IRAQI AND
SYRIAN REFUGEE CHILDREN.
THEY WERE SO CURIOUS TO
KNOW WHAT IS THIS
"SUPERBOOK"?
I LOVE THAT THEY WERE
REALLY WATCHING AND
ATTENTIVE TO WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
Reporter: THEN ELIAN
MADE HER WAY INTO A VERY
DIFFERENT SITUATION: A
CAMP MADE UP OF HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN
THE BECCAU VALLEY, LIVING
INTENTS IN THE MOST
DESPERATE CONDITIONS.
EVERY TIME I ASKED
THEM, HOW CAN I PRAY FOR
YOU, THE ONLY ANSWER I GOT
THERE WAS, PRAY THAT WE
CAN FIND FOOD TOMORROW.
Reporter: THEN THEY
SET UP AND SHOWED THE
"SUPERBOOK" EPISODE, "IN
THE BEGINNING," TO NEARLY
200 MUSLIM CHILDREN AND
ADULTS.
WHILE THEY WERE
WATCHING, I WAS WATCHING
THEIR FACES.
AND THERE WAS THIS ONE
CHILD, AND HIS EYES WERE,
LIKE, SHINING.
HE WAS SO INTO
"SUPERBOOK."
Reporter: AND THE
CHILDREN RESPONDED WHEN
SHE INTRODUCED THE
"SUPERBOOK" CURRICULUM TO
THEM.
WE TALKED ABOUT GOD.
WHAT IS GOD TO YOU?
WHO IS GOD TO YOU?
IT WAS AMAZING HOW
"SUPERBOOK" CAN BRING JOY.
Reporter: WHICH
BRINGS US TO THE REASON
WHY ELIAN WANTED TO RETURN
TO THE LAND OF HER BIRTH
TO BRING "SUPERBOOK" TO
THESE CHILDREN.
AS I WAS WALKING IN
THAT CAMP, I LOOKED AT ALL
OF THESE KIDS THERE.
I SAW ME.
I GREW IN IN A WAR ZONE.
THE ONLY FUN PART OF THE
DAY WAS WHEN MY
GRANDMOTHER HAD ME WATCH
"SUPERBOOK."
"SUPERBOOK" IS PLANTED
INSIDE ME.
IT CHANGED MY LIFE AS A
CHILD.
I WANT ALL OF THE KIDS IN
THE MIDDLE EAST TO HAVE
ACCESS TO "SUPERBOOK."
EVERY HOUSE, EVERY CHURCH,
AND IN EVERY REFUGEE CAMP
BECAUSE I KNOW -- I KNOW
THAT IT CHANGES LIVES.
Gordon: BE A PART OF
IT.
BE A PART OF SHOWING THE
CHILDREN OF THE WORLD THE
STORIES OF THE BIBLE.
HOW?
JUST JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK"
D.V.D. CLUB.
FOR A GIFT OF $25 OR MORE,
WE'LL SEND YOU THREE
COPIES OF THE LATEST
EPISODE.
IT'S "PETER'S ESCAPE."
AND IT'S ALL AVAILABLE.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL
US: 1-800-700-7000, AND
SAY, I WANT TO JOIN THE
"SUPERBOOK" D.V.D. CLUB.
> HERE IS A WORD FROM
MATTHEW: "JESUS SAID, LET
THE LITTLE CHILDREN COME
TO ME AND DO NOT FORBID
THEM.
FOR OF SUCH IS THE KINGDOM
OF HEAVEN."
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.