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700 Club Interactive - November 9, 2017

Two-time Grammy-winner, Smokie Norful discusses how trusting God brings life’s greatest fulfillment. Read Transcript


Terry: HE IS A

MULTI-WINNING GRAMMY

ARTIST AND PASTOR.

FIND OUT HOW SMOKIE NORFUL

IS RELEASING THE PRESSURE,

AND HOW YOU CAN REACH YOUR

FULL POTENTIAL BY SIMPLY

TAKING THE LID OFF.

PLUS...

EVERY TIME I ASKED, HOW

CAN I PRAY FOR YOU?

THE ONLY ANSWER I GOT

THERE WAS, PRAY THAT WE

CAN FIND FOOD TOMORROW.

Terry: HOW CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK" IS MAKING A

DIFFERENCE IN THE WAR-TORN

MIDDLE EAST.

ALL OF THAT AND MORE ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

Gordon: WELL, WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

HERE IS A LOOK AT THIS

WEEK'S TOP FIVE STORIES

FROM "STUDIO 5."

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...

[YELLING]

[CHEERING]

YOU GET A CAR!

YOU GET A CAR!

YOU GET A CAR!

EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!

Efrem: OPRAH

CONTINUES HER GIVING WAYS

IN ATLANTA.

SHE IS IN TOWN TONIGHT,

CELEBRATING THE RON CLARK

ACADEMY'S 10th

ANNIVERSARY.

THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE

EVENING...

I'M SO MOVED BY

EVERYTHING I EVERYBODY I

HAVE MET HERE TONIGHT. AND

I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS

GOING TO MATCH YOUR HALF

MILLION, BUT I NOW DECIDED

I'M GOING TO GIVE

$5 MILLION.

$5 MILLION!

[CHEERING]

[APPLAUSE]

TO THE RON CLARK

ACADEMY.

Efrem: THE RON CLARK

ACADEMY IS A HIGHLY

ACCLAIMED NON-PROFIT

MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THE REASON WHY I'M

HERE -- I'M GIVING UP MY

TIME FOR FREE TO BE HERE,

TO SUPPORT THEM, IS TO SAY

BRAVO FOR DOING THIS.

THERE IS NOT A BETTER

SCHOOL, ORGANIZATION,

INSTITUTION IN THE U.S.A.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FOUR...THE CHRISTIAN POST

HIGHLIGHTS THESE FOUR

UP-AND-COMING CHRISTIANS

IN COMEDY.

THERE IS JOHN CHRIS.

YOU WALK IN THE

BUILDING AND YOU'RE NOT

SURE IF IT IS A CHURCH.

Efrem: TAMILLA

JOHNSON.

I HAVE A BAD HABIT OF

JUDGING PEOPLE.

Efrem: KEVIN

FREDERICK.

ASK YOURSELF...WHY?

WHY?

WHY?

IS THIS REALLY ANYTHING

PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN

BEFORE?

Efrem: AND YVONNE

ORGI.

THERE IS ONE BIG

OBSTACLE, THE ONLY GANG

STAR WITH A CAPITAL STAR.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

THREE...DISNEY IS

ENLISTING A SUPERSTAR CAST

FOR ITS LIVE ACTION REMAKE

OF "THE LION KING."

AND EVERYBODY IS GOING

CRAY OVER BAY.

BEYONCE IS NOW OFFICIALLY

ON BOARD TO PLAY NYLA.

ROUNDING OUT THE CAST,

JAMES EARL JONES WILL PLAY

MUFASSA.

Efrem: "THE LION

KING" REMAKE HITS THEATERS

IN THE SUMMER OF 2019.

AKUMA MATATA, AND IT

MEANS DON'T WORRY.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

TWO...

IT WILL DEBUT SUNDAY,

MARCH 11.

NO WORD IF IT WILL AIR ONE

NIGHT A WEEK OR TWO NIGHTS

A WEEK, LIKE IT USED TO.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

ONE...

I'LL TAKE OVER, BECAUSE

IN THE ARC CHE ARCHITECTURE OF

THIS FIRM, I'M A WINNER.

Efrem: "ALL RISE,"

DENZEL WASHINGTON DELIVERS

A PERFORMANCE IN ROMAN JAY

ISRAEL.

ISRAEL IS AN ACTIVIST

ATTORNEY, AND WASHINGTON

BELIEVES IT IS IMPORTANT

HE USE A PLATFORM TO SHINE

A LIGHT ON HIS CHRISTIAN

FAITH.

Efrem: DOES FAITH

REQUIRE ACTIVISM FOR US TO

BE ACTIVE?

WELL, YOU HAVE TO USE

YOUR GIFTS.

FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS

NOTHING.

SO NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO BE

AN ACTIVIST.

A WOMAN PROPHESIED YEARS

AND YEARS EG THA AGO I WOULD

TRAVEL THE WORLD AND

PREACHED TO MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE.

AND I HAVE TRAVELLED THE

WORLD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF

I'M A PREACHER, BUT

THROUGH MY WORKS I'VE

SPOKEN.

AND I ASKED MY PASTOR,

DOES THAT MEAN I'M

SUPPOSED TO PREACH?

AND HE SAID, NO, YOU

ALREADY HAVE A PULPIT.

HE DIDN'T SAY STAY IN YOUR

LANE, BUT TRY TO BE AN

AGENT FOR GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT

NOW.

I'M IN THE SERVICE

BUSINESS.

Efrem: ROMAN J.ISRAEL

ESQUIRE IS IN THEATERS IN

TIME FOR THANKSGIVING.

WHAT IS A SISTER

STANDING IN A BROTHER'S

SEATING?

AND POLITE?

Efrem: EFREM IS WITH

US HERE LIVE.

YOU'VE GOT TO ADMIRE

DENZEL.

HE IS HITTING IT OUT OF

THE PARK.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

THE PERFORMANCE IN THIS

FILM IS AMAZING.

HE GAINED 30 POUNDS, GREW

HIS HAIR OUT TO HAVE A

FRO.

HE IS AN ACTIVIST ATTORNEY

STUCK IN A TIME WARP.

DEALING WITH MILLENNIALS,

AND STRUGGLING WITH HOW DO

I MATTER AND HOW DO I

REMAIN RELEVANT IN THIS

TIME.

AND AS DENZEL SAYS, HE

PLAYED HIM A BIT ON THE

SPECTRUM.

HE IS AWKWARD IN SOCIAL

EVENTS.

DENZEL SERVED AS A

PRODUCER ON THIS FILM.

BOTH HE AND THE DIRECTOR

ARE BELIEVERS.

HE AND DAN GILROY STARTED

EVERY DAY ON THE SET WITH

SCRIPTURE AND PRAYER.

HE BELIEVES HE MUST USE

HIS PLATFORM TO DO GOOD

AND BE A WITNESS --

Gordon: IT SEEMS LIKE

HE IS GETTING INTO THIS

WHOLE -- I DON'T KNOW IF

SEASON IS THE RIGHT WORD.

HE IS GETTING INTO A NEW

PHASE WHERE HE SEEMS TO BE

FAR MORE VOCAL ABOUT --

NOT THAT HE WAS SHY

BEFORE, BUT HE IS

DEFINITELY GOING OUT FRONT

WITH IT.

Efrem: IT IS

INTENTIONAL.

IT IS ON PURPOSE.

AND THAT IS HIS PLAN.

IN OUR CONVERSATION, HE

TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT

HE NO LONGER DRINKS

ALCOHOL.

HE HAS GIVEN UP THAT.

AND HE IS REALLY PUSHING

AND CHALLENGING EVERYONE

TO RISE UP.

AND THE SUBTITLE OF THE

FILM IS "ALL RISE,"

TELLING PEOPLE TO RISE UP

AND LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH

MORE PUBLICLY.

AND HE ENCOURAGES

MILLENNIALS NOT TO BE

ASHAMED OF JESUS CHRIST.

HE IS ANTI-SOCIAL MEDIA,

BUT HE SAYS, IF YOU'RE

GOING TO USE IT, USE IT AS

A PLATFORM TO MAKE CHANGE

AND TO DO GOOD, AND NOT

FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING IT

PLAY OUT MORE OFTEN THAN

NOT.

Gordon: I WONDER IF

WE SHOULD TRAVEL WITH HIM?

Efrem: I THINK WE

SHOULD.

I'LL VOLUNTEER.

Gordon: IF THAT'S A

PROPHECY, LET'S MAKE IT

HAPPEN.

Efrem: I LIKE THE WAY

YOU THINK.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: I LIKE HIM.

I ADMIRED HIS CAREER.

I'VE ADMIRED HIS

ABILITIES.

HE CERTAINLY DOES HAVE A

PULL PIT WITPULPIT WITH THAT ABILITY.

WHAT I REALLY ADMIRE IS HE

IS UNASHAMED.

AND IN TODAY'S CULTURE,

THAT IS SEEMINGLY GETTING

TO BE HARDER.

Efrem: YES, INDEED,

ESPECIALLY IN HOLLYWOOD.

LITERALLY, I HAVE GONE TO

THE CHURCHES WHERE HE

ATTENDS BOTH IN NEW YORK

AND IN L.A., AND WHEN YOU

GO, YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW

FOR SURE DENZEL IS GOING

TO BE THERE, AND

WORSHIPPING IN FRONT OF

THOUSANDS AS WELL.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.

Gordon: OKAY.

"AMERICAN IDOL" COMING

BACK?

Efrem: IT IS COMING

BACK IN MARCH.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW MANY

OF THE DETAILS, BUT IT IS

COMING BACK.

LIONEL RICHIE HAS LICENSED

THE PHRASE THAT HE THINKS

HE IS GOING TO MAKE

POPULAR ON THE SHOW, AND

IT'S "HERE COMES THE

JUDGE."

OLD OF US TO KNOW KNOWS

THAT IS OLD.

HE IS HOPING FOR IT TO

CATCH ON.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS

GOING TO BE ONE NIGHT OR

TWO NIGHTS.

Gordon: THAT WAS A

COMEDY LINE FROM THE

'60s.

Efrem: I WASN'T

AROUND, BUT I DO REMEMBER

THAT.

Gordon: I WAS AROUND.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: IT DOES BEG

THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT

GO AWAY?

Efrem: IT WAS VERY

EXPENSIVE TO DO.

IT WAS NOT AS POPULAR --

IT WAS GETTING EXPENSIVE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE

SALARIES --

Gordon: VERSUS

SCRIPTED DRAMA?

Efrem: WELL, NOT IN

COMPARISON.

Gordon: I'LL PUT MY

PRODUCER HAT ON AND I'LL

TAKE LIVE TELEVISION EVERY

DAY OVER SCRIPTED.

AND SCRIPTED, THE BUDGETS

ALWAYS GO UP.

Efrem: AND RYAN SEE

SEACREST'S SALARY WENT UP.

Gordon: AND THEY WENT

AND GOT NEW JUDGES.

Efrem: YES, THEY DID,

AND THEIR SALARIES AREN'T

QUITE AS HIGH.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

DISNEY IS TAKING "LION

KING" INTO LIVE ACTION.

I'M WONDERING, IS THAT

GOING TO WORK?

Efrem: THIS HAS BEEN

A TREND FOR ANIMATION.

THEY LITERALLY PULLED OUT

ALL OF THE STOPS FOR THE

CAST.

YOU HAVE BEYONCE SIGNING

ON AND JAMES EARL JONES --

THEY ARE REALLY PULLING

OUT ALL OF THE STOPS TO DO

THIS LIVE ANIMATION.

I WOULD SAY FOR ME, "LION

KING" IS MY FAVORITE

DISNEY STORY TO WATCH.

IT IS THE ONE THAT I

STILL, TO THIS DAY, WHEN I

WATCH, I WATCH WITH A

NOTEBOOK AND TAKE NOTES OF

QUOTES AND THINGS I LEARN

FROM THE FILM.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT

THEY DO WITH THIS.

THAT HAS BEEN THEIR NEW

THING, MAKING THE ANIMATED

LIVE ACTION FILMS.

Gordon: WHO KNEW?

[LAUGHTER]

Efrem: I HAVE A

SON --

Gordon: THE CIRCLE OF

LIFE.

Efrem: YOU GOT IT,

AND NOW COVERING IT.

Gordon: WELL, WE'VE

GOT CHRISTIAN COMEDIANS,

WHICH, AGAIN, SEEM TO BE

GOING AGAINST TYPE THESE

DAYS.

BUT I APPLAUD IT.

I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL

THAT THERE ARE NEW NAMES

COMING UP, AND THEY WANT

TO BE KNOWN, I'M A

CHRISTIAN COMIC.

I'M A CLEAN COMIC.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEM?

Efrem: THEY'RE DOING

VERY WELL.

ALL FOUR ARE SUCCESSFUL.

THE THING ABOUT IT IS THEY

ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR

OWN RIGHT, NAVIGATING

THEIR OWN WAY.

YVONNE ORGI, SHE IS FAMOUS

FOR THE HBO SERIOUS

"INSECURE."

NOW, THAT SCRIPT IS PRETTY

DARING, AND WHENEVER SHE

SITS DOWN FOR AN

INTERVIEW, PEOPLE

CHALLENGE HER FOR BEING A

PART OF IT.

AND SHE SAID SHE PROMISED

GOD, WHATEVER PLATFORM HE

GAVE HER, SHE WOULD NOT BE

ASHAMED TO USE IT.

SHE IS USING THAT PLATFORM

TO TALK ABOUT PURITY, AND

THE FACT SHE IS IN HER

30s, NEVER BEEN MARRIED,

AND REMAINING A VIRGIN

UNTIL THAT DAY COMES.

AND GETTING A LOT OF

ATTENTION FOR DOING THAT

AND SPEAKING OUT AND

SAYING THAT.

ALL OF THE COMEDIANS ARE

SAYING THE VERY SAME

THING, USING THEIR

PLATFORM TO MAKE PEOPLE

LAUGH, BUT ALSO TO BE A

WITNESS TO JESUS CHRIST.

Gordon: HAROLD TOLD

ME ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, AND

WE WERE QUESTIONING

DIFFERENT VENUES.

AND HE SAID, GORDON, IF I

HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

PRECH IPREACH IN HELL, I'D TAKE

IT.

IT REALLY DOES SUM IT ALL

UP, WHEREVER YOU CAN GO.

Efrem: THAT'S RIGHT.

Gordon: AND WHEREVER

YOU CAN BE A LIGHT.

Efrem: AND WHERE

THERE IS DARKNESS, THAT'S

WHERE LIGHT IS NEEDED THE

MOST.

Gordon: OKAY.

OPRAH IS AT IT AGAIN.

Efrem: SHE IS AT IT

AGAIN.

$5 MILLION TO THE RON

CLARK ACADEMY.

THIS GENTLEMAN SHE MET ON

THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW

BACK IN 2001.

HE WAS A TEACHER IN NORTH

CAROLINA, WHO WAS AWARDED

BEING ONE OF THE BEST

TEACHERS IN THE COUNTRY.

HE HAS TAUGHT IN HARLEM,

AND OPENED AN ACADEMY FOR

DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN.

MAKING A HUGE IMPACT AND

DIFFERENCE.

SHE SPOKE AT THE SCHOOL'S

FIRST GRADUATION IN 2010.

AND THEY'RE MARKING THEIR

ANNIVERSARY NOW.

THAT NIGHT, ALL TOTAL,

WITH HER $5 MILLION GIFT,

THEY RAISED $12 MILLION TO

BUILD A PERFORMANCE ART

ACADEMY ON TO THAT SCHOOL.

Gordon: YAY!

Efrem: YAY!

Gordon: ANY TIME YOU

CAN EDUCATE CHILDREN,

PARTICULARLY DISADVANTAGED

CHILDREN, TAKE IT.

Efrem: AND TO SEE THE

LIVES CHANGED.

THESE CHILDREN ARE IN

TEARS, SAYING THIS TEACHER

WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO NOT

GIVE UP ON THEM.

EVEN DESPITE THEIR BAD

BEHAVIOR, HE NEVER GAVE UP

ON THEM.

AND HE ACTUALLY GOES TO

THE HOMELESS, EVERY SINGLE

KID, AND MEET WITH THE

PARENTS AND SEE WHAT THEIR

LIVING CONDITIONS ARE

LIKE.

Gordon: IT

UNDERSCORES THE POWER OF

EXPECTATION.

IF YOU EXPECT TO SUCCEED,

THEN YOU WILL.

IF YOU EXPECT TO FAIL, IT

WILL BECOME A

SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.

> WELL, IF YOU WANT TO

KEEP UP ON ENTERTAINMENT

NEWS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO

IS GO TO EFREM'S WEEKLY

SHOW, "STUDIO 5," AND YOU

CAN WATCH THE IT ONLINE

AT cbn.com/studio5.

WELL, UP NEXT, HE WAS

BILLBOARD'S NUMBER ONE

GOSPEL ARTIST AND HAD TWO

GOLD ALBUMS.

FIND OUT WHY AT THE HEIGHT

OF HIS CAREER, SMOKE SMOKIE

NORFUL SAID HE WAS

MISERABLE.

Gordon: WELL, FEAR,

DOUBT, AND FRUSTRATION ARE

SADLY COMMON, AND EVEN

AMONG CHRISTIANS.

GRAMMY-WINNER AND PASTOR

SMOKIE NORFUL SAYS

RELIEVING THE PRESSURE IS

AS SIMPLE AS TAKING THE

LID OFF.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BY 2004,

GOSPEL ARTIST SMOKIE

NORFUL WAS AT THE HEIGHT

OF HIS CAREER.

HE WON A GRAMMY IN 2005

AND WAS LIVING THE DREAM,

BUT HE FELT LIKE SOMETHING

WAS MISSING IN HIS LIFE.

AND AFTER RECORDING IN THE

STUDIO ONE DAY, HE DECIDED

TO START A CHURCH.

TODAY SMOKIE IS THE SENIOR

PASTOR OF VICTORY

CATHEDRAL WORSHIP IN

CHICAGO, WHICH MEETS ON

THREE CAMPUSES.

IN 2015, HE WON HIS SECOND

GRAMMY.

IN HIS BOOK, "TAKE THE LID

OFF," SMOKIE SHARES WHY HE

SAID YES TO MINISTRY AND

MUSIC, AND OFFERS

PRACTICAL TIPS ON LIVING

LIFE WITHOUT LIMITATIONS.

Gordon: SMOKIE JOINS

US, AND IT IS AN HONOR TO

HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: WHAT I'M

HEARING IS YOU ARE LIVING

THE DREAM, YOUR WINNING

AWARDS, YOU'RE BEING VERY

SUCCESSFUL WITH YOUR

VOICE, AND YET YOU'RE NOT

HAPPY.

IT WAS A HUGE LACK OF

PEACE.

THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF

ANYTHING THAT CAN REPLACE

OR PAY FOR YOUR PEACE.

FOR ME, I WAS IN THAT

SEASON OF HAVING THE

DESIRES OF MY HEART BEING

FULFILLED AND THE JOYS OF

ALL OF THE TRAPPINGS THAT

COME WITH CELEBRITY, WITH

REACHING THE TOP OF ANY

VOCATION.

AND IN MY REGARD, IT WAS

THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

AND STILL NOT FINDING ANY

KIND OF PEACE OR REST OR

RESOLVE, AND FEELING LIKE

SOMETHING WAS MISSING.

ULTIMATELY, I HAD TO YIELD

AND REALIZE, GOD, I'M

DOING WHAT I WANT TO DO,

BUT AM I REALLY DOING WHAT

YOU WANT ME TO DO?

THAT WAS ULTIMATELY THE

MISSING COMPONENT.

Gordon: SO YOU'RE IN

THE MIDDLE OF A RECORDING

SESSION --

YES.

Gordon: -- AND

SUDDENLY YOU START SAYING,

I'M GOING TO START A

CHURCH.

I HAD BEEN FEELING THAT

FOR A LONG TIME.

WE EXPECT THAT IT IS GOING

TO BE THIS SUDDEN,

INSTANTANEOUS MOMENT, BUT

THE MOMENT WAS THE

BREAKING POINT.

I EVEN GOT TO A PLACE -- I

GOT TO THE PLACE, AND

PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED WHEN I

SAY THIS -- I WAS A

P.K. --

Gordon: P.K.MEANS A

PASTOR'S KID.

SO YOU GREW UP IN CHURCH.

I GREW UP IN CHURCH.

I LIVED IN CHURCH.

Gordon: EVERY

WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY

MORNING AND USUALLY SUNDAY

AFTERNOON.

ABSOLUTELY.

I HAD A DRUG PROBLEM

GROWING UP -- MY PARENTS

DRUG ME TO EVERY SERVICE.

[LAUGHTER]

HAVING THAT EXPOSURE,

HAVING THAT FOUNDATION, I

REALIZED WHAT WAS RIGHT.

I KNEW WHAT WAS RIGHT.

BUT I GOT TO A POINT WHERE

I STOPPED GOING TO CHURCH

BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A

PEACE.

AND I WAS RUNNING FROM

ANYTHING THAT WOULD

PROVIDE ME THE

ACCOUNTABILITY TO KNOW,

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

DOING THIS.

THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE

FOR YOU.

AND SO I REALLY KIND OF

TRIED TO ESCAPE WITHIN

MYSELF.

ONLY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU

CAN'T RUN.

I COULD CONTINUE DOING

WHAT I WAS DOING, CONTINUE

TO BE NUMBER ONE ON THE

CHARTS, CONTINUE TO WORK

HARD, BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE

FULFILLMENT.

I WOULD NOT HAVE PEACE.

THAT WAS ULTIMATELY ME

SAYING GOD, OKAY, YES.

THE STUDIO POINT WAS JUST

A BREAKING POINT.

I SAID, GOD, I KNOW, I

KNOW, I KNOW -- LET ME GO

AHEAD AND JUMP IN AND DO

WHAT I'M CALLED TO DO.

SO MY COMPROMISE WAS A

BIBLE STUDY.

Gordon: SO IT WASN'T,

I'M GOING TO START A

CHURCH.

NO, NO, NO.

Gordon: I'M GOING TO

PUT MY BIG TOE IN.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: AND NOT GO

ALL IN.

EXACTLY.

AND SO ONCE -- ULTIMATELY,

ONCE I FINALLY GOT TO THE

POINT OF STARTING A BIBLE

STUDY, GOD IS SO AMAZING,

AND I LOVE THE WAY THAT HE

HUHUMORS.

WE WENT FROM 12, AND A

MONTH, WE HAD 100 PEOPLE,

AND TWO OR THREE MONTHS,

WE HAD 200 OR 300 PEOPLE.

AND I'M, LIKE, GOD, WAIT A

MINUTE, THIS IS A BIBLE

STUDY.

Gordon: THIS IS

BIGGER THAN MY LIVING

ROOM.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: WHERE DO YOU

MEET WITH 300 PEOPLE FOR A

BIBLE STUDY?

WE WENT TO A HOTEL.

I WENT INTO A LITTLE SMALL

SMALL ROOM.

I FIRST STARTED IN A

CONFERENCE ROOM.

AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS

COOL.

AND THEN I SAID, WE NEED A

LITTLE BIGGER SPACE.

QUIT TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT

THE BIBLE STUDY.

I'M GOING TO BLESS YOU

WITH THIS MIRACLE, BUT

DON'T TELL EVERYBODY.

AGAIN, WE JUST GREW INSIDE

THAT HOTEL UNTIL

EVENTUALLY I HAD TO LAUNCH

AND GO INTO A HIGH SCHOOL,

A BIG, HUGE HIGH SCHOOL

AUDITORIUM, AND WE WERE

THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS

BEFORE EVEN GETTING OUR

OWN PERMANENT FACILITY.

Gordon: YOU'VE GOT A

BUILDING NOW?

WE HAVE SEVERAL

BUILDINGS NOW.

Gordon: YOU HAVE

THREE CAMPUSES --

YES.

Gordon: GOD IS

BLESSING YOU AND IT KEEPS

GROWING --

YES.

Gordon: HOW IS YOUR

HAPPINESS LEVEL?

I THINK HAPPINESS COMES

AND GOES.

WHATEVER YOUR

CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE

OUTSIDE CAN DETERMINE AND

DICTATE YOUR HAPPINESS.

BUT MY JOY LEVEL IS

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

AND THAT REALLY -- YOU

CAN'T TOUCH THAT WITH ANY

EXTERNAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU

GET WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR IN

THE WILL OF GOD, WHEN

YOU'RE WALKING IN THE

PEACE OF LIFE, AND YOU'RE

FEELING LIKE, THIS IS WHAT

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

SO MY JOY LEVEL IS THROUGH

THE ROOF.

EVEN THOUGH HAPPINESS --

YOU HAVE GOOD DAYS AND YOU

HAVE BAD DAYS.

THAT BECOMES OUR

MOTIVATION, AND IF IT IS

NOT CAREFUL, WE BECOME OUR

FOCAL POINT.

WE THINK EVERY DAY WITH

GOD IS SUPPOSED TO BE

HAPPY.

Gordon: YOU'VE GOT A

CHAPTER IN YOUR BOOK,

"TAKE THE LID OFF," THAT

REALLY HIT ME.

GIVING YOURSELF AWAY.

YES.

Gordon: I JUST THINK

THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL TO

THE CHRISTIAN LIFE, THAT

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE

OURSELVES AWAY.

UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF

US, WHEN WE GET READY TO

TAKE THE LID OFF AND

EXPERIENCE THIS ABUNDANT

LIFE THAT WE WANT SO

BADLY, WE SKIP OVER, YOU

KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT

CHRIST SAID AS IT RELATES

TO US GIVING OURSELVES OR

PRESENTING OURSELVES TO

OTHER PEOPLE.

BUT OVER AND OVER AND

AGAIN, THAT'S THE MESSAGE

OF THE GOSPEL.

IT IS A MESSAGE THAT SAYS,

YOU'VE GOT TO PRESENT

YOURSELF TO OTHERS IN

ORDER TO BE FULFILLED IN

YOURSELF.

WE'RE VERY SELFISH PEOPLE.

IT IS PART OF OUR HUMAN

NATURE.

NOBODY HAS TO TEACH A

CHILD TO SAY MONEY.

IT IS INSTANT.

YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM TO

SHARE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE

TO TEACH THEM TO SAY, NO,

MINE.

SO WE WORK ALL OF OUR

LIVES TO OVERCOME THAT.

AND WE REALLY NEVER WILL

BE FULFILLED WITHIN

OURSELVES, NEVER TRULY

HAVE JOY, NEVER KNOW REAL

PEACE UNTIL WE GET OVER

OURSELVES AND STOP BEING

SO SELF-CENTERED, AND

REALIZE THAT OUR LIVES ARE

REALLY PRESENTATIONS TO

OTHERS SO THAT GOD CAN GET

THE GLORY OUT OF THEM.

Gordon: I LOVE THE

ILLUSTRATION IN THE BOOK

WHERE YOU'RE HAVING A

BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR ONE OF

YOUR KIDS, AND YOU'RE

GETTING AWLG OF THE ALL OF THE

PRESENTS, AND ON THE WAY

HOME, YOU DECIDE I' I'M GOING

TO GIVE A LIFE LESSON

HERE.

YOU SAID, YOU CAN HAVE

THREE OF THE PRESENTS, BUT

I NEED YOU TO GIVE AWAY

ALL OF THE OTHERS FOR

PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDY.

RIGHT.

IT WAS A FAITH-WALKING

MOMENT, THAT I WASN'T

CRUCIFIED WHEN I GOT HOME,

THAT MY KIDS DIDN'T DO

SOMETHING TO ME WHILE I

WAS SLEEPING.

BUT IT REALLY PROVED TO BE

A REALLY VALUABLE LESSON

FOR THEM THAT HAS NOW

CARRIED OVER INTO THEIR

LIVES, THAT I DON'T HAVE

TO PUT THAT MANDATE UPON

THEM.

I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THEM

CHOOSE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL ME,

DAD, WE NEED TO GIVE TO

THIS.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

THEY REALIZE THE VALUE OF

GIVING.

THEY KNOW OUR BLESSINGS AS

A RESULT OF BEING GENEROUS

TO OTHER PEOPLE, TO GIVE

THEMSELVES AWAY.

I HAVE A THING AT MY

CHURCH, AND IT IS GIVE

YOURSELF AWAY.

"LIVE TO BE MISSED, NOT

JUST REMEMBERED."

THAT IS OUR MANTRA.

"LIVE TO BE MISSED, NOT

JUST REMEMBERED."

SO I TEACH MY KIDS, AND IT

STARTED THERE AS BABIES.

YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THE

CHURCH MEMBERS POURING OWL ALL

OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR

LAP, AND YOU HAVE THE

FAVOR OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE,

BUT YOU HAVE A

RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE

THERE ARE OTHERS WHO DON'T

HAVE IT.

IF THEY WERE GONE, I SAID,

WHO WOULD MISS YOU.

YOU?

NOT REMEMBER YOU.

WHO WOULD ACTUALLY MISS

YOU?

IF WE WERE OUT OF THE

COMMUNITY, WOULD SOMEBODY

SAY, MAN, WE SURE MISS

WHAT THEY DID FOR US AND

FOR THE COMMUNITY.

OR WOULD THEY JUST SAY,

YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT

CHURCH?

THAT'S A HUGE PART OF ME,

AS AN INDIVIDUAL, MY

FAMILY, AND EVEN OUR

CHURCH FAMILY.

Gordon: YOU CAN TELL,

SMOKIE, BORN TO BE A

PASTOR.

HE IS NOT GOING TO STOP

WITH THREE CAMPUSES.

HE IS GOING TO KEEP

GROWING.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET

THIS BOOK "TAKE THE LID

OFF."

IF YOU'RE FRUSTRATED IN

LIFE, WHAT'S GOD'S PLAN

FOR YOU AND WHAT ARE THE

POCKETPOSSIBILITIES FOR YOU --

READ THIS.

IF THERE ARE PRESSURES ON

YOUR LIFE, IT IS A GREAT

SILLILLUSTRATION.

AND HE HAS A 12-TRACK

DIGITAL ONLY ALBUM CALLED

"NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE."

YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW YOU

CAN GET IT AT cbn.com

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Gordon: KEEP

PREACHING.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: COMING UP, A

LIFE CHANGED BY THE POWER

OF "SUPERBOOK."

I GREW UP IN A WAR

ZONE.

THE ONLY FUN PART OF THE

DAY WAS WHEN MY

GRANDMOTHER HAD ME WATCH

"SUPERBOOK."

Gordon: FIND OUT HOW

"SUPERBOOK" IS CHANGING

LIVES ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THAT'S UP NEXT.

Gordon: WELL, THE

FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE

EAST HAS DRIVEN MILLIONS

FROM HOMES.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN

MONTHS, SOME REFUGEES ARE

NOW SMILING THANKS TO

CBN'S "SUPERBOOK."

Reporter: THE UNITED

NATIONS NOW ESTIMATES THAT

ONE TO TWO MILLION PEOPLE

LIVE AS REFUGEES INTENTS

AND CAMPS LIKE THIS IN THE

NATION OF LEBANON.

IT WAS INTO THIS PLACE OF

SUFFERING THAT ELIAN CAME

TO BRING HOPE THROUGH

"SUPERBOOK," TO THE LAND

OF HER BIRTH.

THE FIRST STEP ON HER

JOURNEY WAS A CHURCH

INSIDE BEIRUT, WHICH HAD

TAKEN IN 150 IRAQI AND

SYRIAN REFUGEE CHILDREN.

THEY WERE SO CURIOUS TO

KNOW WHAT IS THIS

"SUPERBOOK"?

I LOVE THAT THEY WERE

REALLY WATCHING AND

ATTENTIVE TO WHAT WAS

GOING ON.

Reporter: THEN ELIAN

MADE HER WAY INTO A VERY

DIFFERENT SITUATION: A

CAMP MADE UP OF HUNDREDS

OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN

THE BECCAU VALLEY, LIVING

INTENTS IN THE MOST

DESPERATE CONDITIONS.

EVERY TIME I ASKED

THEM, HOW CAN I PRAY FOR

YOU, THE ONLY ANSWER I GOT

THERE WAS, PRAY THAT WE

CAN FIND FOOD TOMORROW.

Reporter: THEN THEY

SET UP AND SHOWED THE

"SUPERBOOK" EPISODE, "IN

THE BEGINNING," TO NEARLY

200 MUSLIM CHILDREN AND

ADULTS.

WHILE THEY WERE

WATCHING, I WAS WATCHING

THEIR FACES.

AND THERE WAS THIS ONE

CHILD, AND HIS EYES WERE,

LIKE, SHINING.

HE WAS SO INTO

"SUPERBOOK."

Reporter: AND THE

CHILDREN RESPONDED WHEN

SHE INTRODUCED THE

"SUPERBOOK" CURRICULUM TO

THEM.

WE TALKED ABOUT GOD.

WHAT IS GOD TO YOU?

WHO IS GOD TO YOU?

IT WAS AMAZING HOW

"SUPERBOOK" CAN BRING JOY.

Reporter: WHICH

BRINGS US TO THE REASON

WHY ELIAN WANTED TO RETURN

TO THE LAND OF HER BIRTH

TO BRING "SUPERBOOK" TO

THESE CHILDREN.

AS I WAS WALKING IN

THAT CAMP, I LOOKED AT ALL

OF THESE KIDS THERE.

I SAW ME.

I GREW IN IN A WAR ZONE.

THE ONLY FUN PART OF THE

DAY WAS WHEN MY

GRANDMOTHER HAD ME WATCH

"SUPERBOOK."

"SUPERBOOK" IS PLANTED

INSIDE ME.

IT CHANGED MY LIFE AS A

CHILD.

I WANT ALL OF THE KIDS IN

THE MIDDLE EAST TO HAVE

ACCESS TO "SUPERBOOK."

EVERY HOUSE, EVERY CHURCH,

AND IN EVERY REFUGEE CAMP

BECAUSE I KNOW -- I KNOW

THAT IT CHANGES LIVES.

Gordon: BE A PART OF

IT.

BE A PART OF SHOWING THE

CHILDREN OF THE WORLD THE

STORIES OF THE BIBLE.

HOW?

JUST JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK"

D.V.D. CLUB.

FOR A GIFT OF $25 OR MORE,

WE'LL SEND YOU THREE

COPIES OF THE LATEST

EPISODE.

IT'S "PETER'S ESCAPE."

AND IT'S ALL AVAILABLE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

US: 1-800-700-7000, AND

SAY, I WANT TO JOIN THE

"SUPERBOOK" D.V.D. CLUB.

> HERE IS A WORD FROM

MATTHEW: "JESUS SAID, LET

THE LITTLE CHILDREN COME

TO ME AND DO NOT FORBID

THEM.

FOR OF SUCH IS THE KINGDOM

OF HEAVEN."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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