Mr. President, I am
so glad to see you.
I'm so proud of
everything you're doing.
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you.
Let me ask you.
You have just gotten
back from the G-20.
You were traveling
around the world.
What do you see as the major
problem facing the world today?
What's the major issue?
Well we have many problems.
And I was left a
very, very tough meal.
I will say that.
It was a mess.
And I think we're
doing very well.
But North Korea certainly
is a big problem.
The; Middle East
is a total mess.
Other than in five
months we have
done more against
ISIS than anybody
has done since the beginning.
And we're having tremendous
success with that.
But I would have to say, Middle
East is a tough situation.
But we're getting
it straightened out.
And ultimately, we want to
start investing money back
in the United
States at our home.
Yeah.
But we have to
get rid of ISIS.
We have to get rid
of the terrorists,
as you know better than anybody.
And the other is North Korea.
We have somebody that is--
we will find out what he is.
We're going to find out.
He has launched
intercontinental missiles.
Is there a possibility
that we might
want to knock some of those
down on the launch pad or right
after launch?
Well, we wouldn't want to
be speaking about anything.
But we're looking at
lots of different ways.
We're working with other
countries, including China.
I think China would like to
see this problem go away.
It's a big problem for them.
And the advantage
we have is trade.
We have big trade with China.
And I have a very good
relationship with President Xi,
who I like a lot.
And I think he likes me.
We were just spending
a lot of time together.
And they are very
strong with regard to,
as you know, with
regard to North Korea.
Will they get tough
with North Korea?
I know that you were so
close when he was there
visiting Mar a Lago.
Well, we're going to see.
We're going to see.
I would say that we
had a good chance.
They had an election
where President Moon
got elected to South Korea.
He has a much
different attitude--
or a much different take--
on how to handle this situation
than his predecessor in South
Korea.
He's perhaps softer on
the issue, but maybe not,
because I like him a lot.
I think he's going to
be a strong person.
I think he's got
strong views-- stronger
than people would understand.
So we'll see how
it all works out.
I think China wants to help us.
We're going to find out
whether or not they do.
But China would, in my opinion,
like to be able to help us.
What's our leverage with them?
Well, our leverage
with China is
that China makes hundreds
of billions of dollars
a year with us on trade.
And I want to
renegotiate trade deals.
But I would certainly be a lot
easier in a trade deal if they
were going to help us with North
Korea than if they weren't.
So we're going to see.
The relationship is
very good with China.
It's very good with
the president of China,
who's a terrific person.
We will find out whether
or not they want to help.
And maybe they do.
And maybe they don't.
What about that
consortium of Arab nations
that went against Qatar.
Your secretary of state was
not too favorable to what
was being done.
How are we going
to handle that one?
Well, Rex is doing
a terrific job.
But he and I had a little
bit of a difference,
only in terms of tone.
So we went to Saudi Arabia.
We had one of the
great meetings ever--
54 Muslim countries.
And I got up, made a
speech, got nice reviews.
It's almost like
you making a speech.
But I said, we've got to stop
the funding of terrorism.
Tremendous money, and
they're funding terrorism.
So we've got to stop it.
So they are working
very hard on that.
And I believe they're
going to do it.
It was one of the most
incredible two days.
As an example, Saudi Arabia
put up hundreds of billions
of dollars of money going
into buying our planes
and our military equipment
and investing in our country.
And I said, you have to do that.
Otherwise I'm not going.
So they spent hundreds
of billions of dollars
right in front of us.
They were signing and big people
from the biggest countries
in companies--
General Electric, and
all of the big companies.
Many of them were there
getting contracts.
All good work for our workers.
That was one of the things.
But the other thing is that--
and very important to me-- was
the funding of
terrorism has to stop.
And they fund terrorism--
some of those countries,
many of those countries.
So we had a tremendous summit.
And I think things
are going to work out.
I think it was a very, very
important and very impressive
two days.
And now, as you know, Qatar--
which a lot of people
call it Qatar--
but Qatar is now a
little bit on the outs.
But I think they are
being brought back in.
Because they were known
as a funder of terrorism.
And we said you can't do that.
You can't do that.
We have to starve
the beast, right.
And the beast is terrorism.
So we can't have wealthy
countries funding that beast.
How do we handle that
big military installation
we built in Qatar?
What do we do with that?
Well, we'll be all right.
Look, if we ever
had to leave, we
would have 10 countries willing
to build us another one.
Believe me.
And they'll pay for it.
The days of us paying for things
are going to be largely over.
They'll start paying.
We go out.
We build.
We this.
We that.
But you're right.
Qatar-- we're going to have a
good relationship with Qatar.
And we're not going have a
problem with the military base.
But if we ever needed
another military base,
you have other countries
that would gladly build it.
Believe me.
You went to the G-20.
And you met for the
first time, front face
to face, with Vladimir Putin.
And George Bush had once
said he stared into his soul
and came away satisfied.
What do you think?
Can we trust him?
Well, look, we
had a good meeting.
I think we had an
excellent meeting.
One thing we did is
we have a ceasefire
in a major part of Syria where
there was tremendous bedlam
and tremendous killing.
And by the way, this
is now four days.
The ceasefire has
held for four days.
Those cease fires
haven't held at all.
That's because President
Putin and President Trump
made the deal and it's held.
Now, I don't know
what's going to happen.
Maybe as we're speaking
they start shooting again.
But this has held, unlike
all of the other cease fires
that didn't mean anything.
So that was a great thing
that came out of that meeting.
I think a lot of things
came out of that meeting.
But I do believe it's
important to have a dialogue.
And if you don't
have a dialogue,
it's a lot of problems for our
country and for their country.
I think we need dialogue.
We need dialogue with everybody.
Sure.
It was a great G-20.
We had 20 countries.
I get along, I think,
really fantastically
with the head of every country.
Well, you're going to France
right away to meet with Macron.
And you were there for Bastille
Day instead of July the Fourth,
that's their special holiday.
That's right.
Well I was invited
by the president--
the new president of France--
who is a very good
person, very good guy.
And don't forget, I terminated
for our country the Paris
Accord.
So that's not that
easy for them.
But I terminated it, because
it was not fair to our country.
We have other countries
that had much better deals
than we did, to put it
just in a very simple form.
And I said, why do we
not have a better deal?
And nobody could
give me the answer.
I said, I'm terminating.
So I terminated.
But I'm going to be
with the president.
And I think it's going
to be very exciting.
It's 100 years
since World War I.
Turns out to be the exact date.
So we're going to
watch something
that I think will
be very beautiful.
And I think it's very
important for our country
to be represented 100 years
since the First World War.
Lafayette, we are here.
We've come back.
Here we are.
Here we are.
Oh that's great.
Well back to Putin.
What do you think he wants?
I know he's said what he wants.
But what do you
think his game is?
Well he wants what's
good for Russia.
Yeah.
And I want what's good
for the United States.
And I think, like in
a case like Syria,
where we can get together,
do a cease fire--
and there are other cases
or many other cases where
getting along can be
a very positive thing.
But always, Putin is
going to want Russia.
And Trump is going to
want United States.
And that's the way it is.
And sometimes, you're not
going to get along on things.
And sometimes you will.
But we had a good meeting.
It was a face to face meeting.
It was a long meeting.
It was two hours and 15 minutes.
Everyone were surprised
by the amount of time.
But that was a good
thing, not a bad thing.
PAT ROBERTSON: Sure.
Yeah, I think we
got along very well.
And I think that's a good thing.
And that's not a bad thing.
Yeah, of course not.
People said, oh they
shouldn't get along.
Well, who are the people
that are saying that?
I think we got along
very, very well.
We're a tremendously
powerful nuclear power.
And so are they.
Sure It doesn't make
sense not to have
some kind of a relationship.
We used to have
that thing called
mutually assured destruction--
MAD.
And it's still there.
Because he can hurt us.
He can decimate our country.
And we can do the
same thing to him.
It's something you don't
even like talking about.
But again, we're the most
powerful country in the world.
And we are getting
more and more powerful.
Because I'm a big
military person.
As an example, if
Hillary had won,
our military would be decimated.
Our energy would be
much more expensive.
That's what Putin
doesn't like about me.
And that's why I say,
why would he want me?
Because from day one, I
wanted a strong military.
He doesn't want to see that.
And from day one, I want
fracking and everything else
to get energy prices low and
to create tremendous energy.
We're going to be
self-supporting.
We just about are now.
We're going to be
exporting energy.
He doesn't want that.
He would like Hillary, where
she wants to have windmills.
He would much rather have
that, because energy prices
will go up.
And Russia, as you know,
relies very much on energy.
There are many things that I
do that are the exact opposite
of what he would want.
So when I keep hearing about
that he would have rather had
Trump, I think probably not.
Because when I want
a strong military,
you know she wouldn't have
spent the money on the military.
But when I want a
strong military,
and when I want tremendous
energy, we're opening up coal.
We're opening up natural gas.
We're opening up fracking-- all
the things that he would hate.
But nobody ever mentions it.
Well, Gazprom held
Europe by the throat.
They were the monopoly.
And now the US is breaking
into that monopoly
with our exports of LNG, right?
Right.
We are.
We have LNG exporting all over.
We have taken off some
of the regulations that
would make it impossible
for the energy companies,
impossible for banks, impossible
for a lot of different things.
You couldn't build a
house in some places.
And many of those restrictions
have been taken off.
Some are being taken off.
We have statutory
waits, meaning you
have to wait a certain
period of time.
And the country is
doing really well.
So the stock market is the
highest it's ever been.
We have almost $4 trillion
in gain. $4 trillion,
I hope you're taking
advantage of that.
We have four--
almost $4 trillion--
I'm into the bargain--
But when you think of
that, that's creating value.
We have a lot of
tremendous things
ready to go, tremendous
projects all over the country.
Don't forget, when I came
in, one of my first acts
was the Keystone Pipeline.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
And the Dakota
Access Pipeline.
These two things got
approved immediately.
They would have
never been built.
And it's thousands
and thousands of jobs.
And it was my honor.
To me, it was a no-brainer.
The regulatory burden on
American business has been,
really, worse than taxes.
And you have lifted--
how many regulations
have you lifted so far?
Oh, just thousands.
And what we've done is
we've given the farmers back
their land.
We've given the home-builders
the right to put up a house.
You had cases where a farm
would have a little puddle
someplace-- a puddle.
When I grew up, we used to
call it a puddle, right-- you
too, probably.
And they considered it a lake.
And if you touched
it, bad, bad things
happen to you and your family.
We've given the farmers
back their farms.
We have so many things
planned in the future
too, with the tax cuts
and the death taxes.
We're ending the death taxes.
There's so many things
we have planned.
But the farmers
are so happy now.
The home-builders are happy.
We have our most jobs
ever in our country.
Now we have to take care of
those people that have given up
looking for a job.
You have a large group of
people in this country that
have given up.
I would talk about
them a lot in speeches.
They've given up
looking for jobs.
They're going to be
looking very soon.
And they're going to
be getting those jobs.
I was talking to Mike
Pence a few minutes ago.
And he thinks that possibly
that health care bill
can go through.
There are two pieces
of legislation
that the American
people are really
anxious to see put through.
One is this iniquitous Obamacare
has got to go and be replaced.
Number two, we've got to
have a tax cut, especially
for small businesses--
corporate tax.
How far along are you?
And number three
is infrastructure,
which we're going to do also.
PAT ROBERTSON: Exactly.
But number one,
repeal and replace.
I am sitting in the Oval
Office with a pen in hand,
waiting for our senators
to give it to me.
For years, they've been
talking about repeal
and replace, repeal and replace.
I think they passed
it 61 times--
repeal and replace.
But that didn't mean anything.
Because you had the
minority, the Republicans.
They didn't have the
majority, so it wasn't
going to get to the president.
But if it ever did, Obama
was going to sign it,
so it didn't mean.
Now, we have a president
that's waiting to sign it.
I have pen in hand.
So now it means something.
Those other times-- those many,
many times that they passed
it--
What's the hold up?
You have very good people.
These are very good people.
We have 52 senators.
It's very hard to get all--
we need almost all of them.
You need almost all of them.
And that's the holdup.
And states are
somewhat different.
But with all of that being
said, has to get passed.
They have to do it.
They have to get
together and get it done.
What will happen
if they don't?
Well, I don't want
to talk about it.
Because I think it
would be very bad.
I would be very angry about it.
And a lot of people
will be very upset.
But I'm sitting waiting for
that bill to come to my desk.
I hope that they do it.
They've been promising
it for years.
They've been promising
it ever since Obamacare,
which has failed.
It's a failed experiment.
It is totally gone.
It's out of business.
And we have to get this
done-- repeal and replace.
Mitch McConnell is a
tactician of great skill.
You think he can pull it off?
It's his job.
He's got to pull it off.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
Mitch has to pull it off.
He's working very hard.
He's got to pull it off.
All right, the
next thing is taxes.
It looks like to me,
lowering the corporate tax
to get us in line with
the rest of the world
is, again, a no-brainer.
Can you get that one through?
I think after health care,
taxes are going to be so easy.
Health care is very hard.
Health care is
hard, because you'll
do something a
little bit this way,
and you pick up that
final vote, and you
lose four votes over here.
Now you it back.
It's a very tiny little road.
It's about two feet wide.
And it goes throughout
the country.
So health care is much
tougher than taxes.
No, I think taxes are
going to be very well.
In fact, our plan is we're
talking about massive tax
cuts-- the biggest tax cut in
the history of our country.
We're going to get
people back again.
We're going to bring back
$4 trillion from overseas.
Money that can't come back into
this country because of our tax
code.
We're going to bring
back $4 trillion--
could be more than that--
from corporations that
can't get their money back
into our country.
We're going to give a tremendous
tax cut for the middle class.
We're bringing it down to 10%.
We're bringing corporate
taxes down to 15%.
I hope we can get
that number approved.
Maybe they'll want to do
something and negotiate.
But if we get what we want,
it will be the biggest tax
cut and the greatest tax reform
in the history of our country.
Would you settle for the
tax cut without reforming
the whole tax code?
Or would you like to work
with the whole thing?
Well, I think we can
do them simultaneously.
The code is too complicated.
H&R Block won't be happy.
But people go out.
They spend a lot of their
money on getting other people
to do their taxes.
I'm one of them.
I know.
You understand.
And it's unnecessary.
So simplification
is very important.
Reform is very important.
And the biggest thing
to me is tax cut.
We are going for very large
tax cuts for businesses
and for the middle class.
Tremendous tax cuts.
Chairman Brady is on board
with what you want to do.
He's a great guy.
He will line up.
Have you got anybody in
the Senate of like mind?
Well first of all, Chairman
Brady is a great guy.
He really knows the subject.
He'll never disappoint you.
So they're, I
think, really good.
In the Senate, I think
we're going to do very well.
Again, like health care--
this is simpler than health
care, believe it or not--
but like health care, I think
we're going to get it done.
And then I want to
go to infrastructure.
We have to rebuild our country--
our roads, our bridges,
our tunnels, our schools.
We have to rebuild our country.
PAT ROBERTSON: Exactly.
You know, we will have,
in another few months,
have spent $7 trillion
dollars in the Middle
East. $7 trillion.
And then if you want
to spend $2 on building
a school in Iowa or in
Pennsylvania or in Florida,
they don't want to
give you the money.
But we've spent-- in a
very short period of time--
we will be up to $7
trillion dollars.
How ridiculous is this?
And here's what we got for it.
Nothing.
Nothing.
The Middle East is a mess.
Now, I'm there for one reason.
We've got to get rid
of the terrorists.
That's the reason.
And we're almost there.
We have really made headway.
We've made, as I said,
we've made more headway
in the last short period of
time than they have ever before,
by far, during this
long period of time.
But when you think
that we've spent--
we will have spent $7 trillion.
Think of it.
We've spent, as of
a few months ago,
we actually have spent $6
trillion in the Middle East.
But we have nothing for it.
Nothing.
I want to rebuild our
bridges and our roads.
I have a friend who's a trucker.
And he loves-- he's very
proud of his equipment.
He buys it very big.
And he buys the best trucks.
He's very proud of it.
He said in the past, when
we went from Los Angeles
to New York, it was fine.
Now by the time he
gets to New York,
with all the problems on
the roads and potholes,
he said I've got to fix
my equipment all the time.
He wants to go to a
different level of truck,
meaning downward.
PAT ROBERTSON: Where do you go--
We have to fix our roads.
And we have to fix
our infrastructure.
So infrastructure
is very important.
Somebody suggested the
Federal Reserve has a big slush
fund that maybe
they could pass over
for infrastructure without
actually having to raise taxes.
How do you get the
money for that?
Oh, we'll get the money.
We're going to get the money.
And we're going to grow.
And I say it.
We're going to grow.
We're going to have
tremendous growth.
We're being held back by all
these regulations, which I'm
knocking out left and right.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
Even Dodd-Frank, with
the banking business.
I have people--
friends of mine--
they want to go get a loan.
They can't.
Great people, and
they can't get loans.
We're doing things
on Dodd-Frank,
in terms of the banks.
We have many, many
things that we're doing.
But we're going to have growth.
And we're going to grow
out of our problems.
Hey, we owe $20
trillion dollars.
The Congressional
Budget Office uses this.
They don't use dynamic scoring.
They use static scoring.
Can you get past
them so you can--
We're going to get past it.
And we're going to get
past it to a large extent,
because we're going to
have a country that's
going to be much more dynamic.
If we do GDP at 1%--
because we're basically, for
the last year, at around 1%.
I call countries like I'm
friendly with all-- let's
say, the top 20 countries
where I just left.
How are you doing
to a major country--
I won't use names--
oh, we are not happy.
We are not happy.
What's your GDP?
8%.
11%.
10%.
9%.
And I say, how you doing?
We are not happy.
So we're at 1% and we're
supposed to be happy?
We have the highest taxes
anywhere in the world.
We're going to lower them.
We're going to lower
them substantially.
We're going to have
tremendous growth.
I'd like to make a prediction.
If you get health
care and tax reform,
you're guaranteed another four
years of office if you want it.
Well then I'll see
you at the inauguration.
I am counting on it.
Anyhow, well, I appreciate
so much what you're doing.
By the way, the
evangelicals of America
voted 83% in the last
election for you.
And I want you to know
there are thousands
and thousands of people
praying for you all the time.
Thank you Pat, that's so nice.
Holding you up.
The evangelicals
were so great to me.
And they did.
They came out in
massive numbers.
And on top of that, I got 83%.
But they came out
in record numbers.
They never came out like that.
And we've really helped.
Because I've gotten rid
of the Johnson Amendment.
Now we're going to go
try and get rid of it
permanently in Congress.
But I signed an executive order
so that now, people like you--
that I want to hear from--
ministers and preachers and
rabbis and whoever it may be,
they can speak.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
You couldn't speak
politically before.
Now you can.
And I want to hear from you
and others that we like.
Franklin Graham-- I had such a--
Dr. Jeffress, Robert Jeffress,
who is such a great guy.
Pastor Jeffress.
He used to go on television.
I didn't know who he was.
I'd see him.
And he was always
speaking so well of me.
And you have so many people
that I want to hear from.
Now they're going
to be able to speak.
And that's going to be a
great thing for Christianity.
Believe me-- a
great, great thing.
And it's a great
thing for religion.
One last thing.
It looks like you may have
another Supreme Court nominee.
Very possible one
or more will retire.
And have you already got the
list ready for the next one?
Well we have a great
one with Justice Gorsuch.
Unbelievable.
He's going to be great.
And I just have to wait
to see what happens.
I have a lot of respect
for Justice Kennedy.
I like him a lot.
But we have to see what happens.
And we'll be learning.
Whatever it is, it is.
If there is ever a vacancy,
we will put somebody
on who is going to be
terrific for our country.
Last question.
There seems to be a
visceral hatred of you
in the part of the left.
And they won't quit.
Does it bother you?
Well, there's a--
there seems to be a hatred.
And it's too bad.
We're creating jobs.
We're creating value.
We're making our
country proud again.
We're building up our military.
We're taking care of our police.
Our police have been
horribly treated.
And the veterans, by the way,
is being reformed dramatically.
The veterans.
We have something where
it's accountability.
Veterans Accountability Act.
We have, where you could be
the worst employee in history,
you could treat the
veterans horribly.
You can do whatever you want.
They couldn't fire you.
They've been trying to get
rid of it for 40 years.
They've been trying
to get in a position
where they can do things.
I had it passed last week.
I just signed it last week.
Nobody even talks about it.
But you know what?
The people know that
we're doing these things.
The people see the stock market.
The people see the jobs report.
But it is really unfair,
because it's like a witch hunt.
It's like a witch hunt.
But we take it.
We take it.
As long as my
people understand--
that's why I do
interviews with you.
You have a tremendous audience.
You have people that I love--
the evangelicals.
And sometimes, you say the
evangelical Christians.
But I do a lot of
interviews with people,
because I can get the word out.
Because I'm treated very
unfairly by the press.
And it is what it is.
You don't mind if we ask
you to take on heavyweights
and not fight and with
light weights anymore?
No, we want to fight.
The big guys.
We want to fight.
We have to bring
our country back.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
Our country was going
in the wrong direction.
That's right.
You couldn't build.
You couldn't do anything.
Our country was going
in the wrong direction.
And by the way, what they were
doing to religious liberty.
They were destroying
religious liberty.
You will be saying Merry
Christmas again very soon.
We'll count on it.
Thank you.
Well, Mr. President, thank
you so much for being with us.
Thank you.
Always a joy to see you.
Such a great honor.
We're so proud of
what you're doing.
Thank you very much.
God bless you.