President and CEO of Christ for All Nations, Daniel Kolenda, shares about worship and how prayer is changing lives and moving mountains.
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Gordon: THE DRUG
DEALER WITH A HEAVY
CONSCIENCE.
I REMEMBER THE MORAL
CAMPUS MOVING BACK AND
FORTH, THINKING, I JUST
DID A DRUG DEAL AND I NEED
TO STOP.
Gordon: SENTENCED TO
MORE THAN 20 YEARS IN
PRISON.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING
TO MYSELF, HOW FAR HAVE I
REALLY FALLEN?
Gordon:
PLUS...LEADING WORSHIP IN
A GHANA CITY DUMP.
DANIEL KOLENDA JOINS US ON
TODAY'S "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE."
> WELL, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
A SWEDISH MIDWIFE HAS BEEN
DENIED SEVERAL JOBS
BECAUSE OF HER PRO-LIFE
VIEWS.
SHE IS NOW TAKING HER CASE
TO THE EUROPEAN COURT OF
HUMAN RIGHTS.
BACK IN 2013, ELEANOR
GRIMARC FINISHED MIDWIFE
CLASSES AND REQUESTED SHE
NOT BE REQUIRED TO ASSIST
IN ABORTIONS.
THE HEAD OF MATERNITY LEFT
A PHONE MESSAGE, SAYING
SHE WAS NO LONGER WELCOME
TO WORK WITH THEM, AND
QUESTIONED WHETHER A
PERSON WITH SUCH VIEWS
COULD ACTUALLY BECOME A
MIDWIFE.
Terry: HER ATTORNEY
SAYS THAT THE MEDIA IS
VERY HOSTILE, AND
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE
MADE STATEMENTS AGAINST
HER CASE.
ONE POLITICIAN SAID,
QUOTE, "THOSE WHO REFUSE
TO PERFORM ABORTIONS ARE,
IN MY OPINION, EXTREME
RELIGIOUS PRACTITIONERS,
NOT UNLIKE JIHADISTS."
> A WIN WOULD MEAN
PROTECTIONS FOR SWEDEN,
AND A LOSS WOULD SIGNAL
THE END OF HER CAREER AND
IMPACT EXISTING CONSCIENCE
LAWS.
WOW!
Gordon: IF YOU THINK
THAT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE,
THINK AGAIN.
WHY WOULD SOMEBODY WANT TO
BE A MIDWIFE?
YOU WANT TO BE A MIDWIFE
BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BRING
LIFE INTO THE WORLD.
YOU WAFN WANT TO BIRTH
CHILDREN.
YOU DON'T WANT TO PERFORM
ABORTIONS.
Terry: WHEN I THINK
OF SWEDEN, NOT ALWAYS IN A
POSITIVE WAY OF A LOT OF
FREE THINKING AND FREE
LIFESTYLE, BUT THIS IS SO
BLACK AND WHITE, AND YOU
THINK MY WAY OR THE
HIGHWAY.
Gordon: TO EQUATE NOT
PERFORMING AN ABORTION
WITH JIHADISTS THAT CHOP
PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF, YOU'VE
THE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
YOU'RE MAKING THAT
COMPARISON.
WHERE SOMEONE SAYS, I
VALUE LIFE SO MUCH, I
CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE
TAKE THE LIFE OF AN UNBORN
CHILD.
ALL SOCIETIES NEED TO MAKE
ROOM FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO HONOR LIFE AND
A COMMITMENT TO LIFE.
Terry: HERE IS
ANOTHER CASE FOR THE
EUROPEAN COURT FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS, THIS TIME FROM
GERMANY.
THE COUPLE APPEALED TO THE
COURT FOR THE RIGHT TO
HOME-SCHOOL THEIR FOUR
CHILDREN.
BACK IN 2013, POLICE USED
A BATTERING RAM TO BREAK
INTO THE COUPLE'S HOME AND
SEIZE OF CHILDREN, AGED
SEVEN TO 14.
UNBELIEVABLE.
Gordon: WELL, THE
E.H.C.R. IS CURRENTLY
REVIEWING THE CASE TO SEE
IF GERMAN AUTHORITIES
BREACHED THE RIGHT TO
FAMILY LIFE, PROTECTED IN
ARTICLE 8 IN THE EUROPEAN
CONVENTION ON FAMILIES
RIGHTS.
THEY RESPONDED BY SAYING,
"CHILDREN ARE BORN TO
PARENTS, NOT GOVERNMENTS."
HUMAN RIGHTS EXPERTS AT
THE U.N. AND SCHOLARS
WORLDWIDE HAVE FOUND THAT
HOME EDUCATION IS A
NATURAL, FUNDAMENTAL, AND
PROTECTED HUMAN RIGHT.
THE COURT MUST HOLD
GERMANY ACCOUNTABLE TO
RESPECT THIS.
I REMEMBER THIS ONE, BACK
WHEN IT HAPPENED.
AND JUST IMAGINE YOU HAVE
A S.W.A.T. TEAM DESCENDING
ON YOUR HOME, USING A
BATTERING RAM, FULLY
ARMED, AND SAYING WE ARE
GOING TO FORCIBLY TAKE
YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF YOUR
HOME.
AND YOUR CRIME IS YOU
DECIDED TO EDUCATE THEM AT
HOME.
NOW, JUST WRAP YOUR HEAD
AROUND THAT ONE.
IF THAT'S NOT
OVERREACTION, IF THAT'S
NOT GOVERNMENT
INTERFERENCE WITH FAMILY
LIFE, IF THAT'S NOT A
VIOLATION OF PRIVACY -- IN
THE U.S., WE WOULD SAY IT
IS AN UNLAWFUL SEARCH AND
SEIZURE BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD
YOUR CHILDREN SEIZED AND
DRAGGED OUT OF YOUR HOME.
THIS IS HORRIBLE ACTIONS
BY A GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
GOVERNMENTS RUN AMUCK.
WHEN PEOPLE START SAYING
THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE
BEST WAY, AND WE KNOW HOW
TO SCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN
AND YOU DON'T, AND OUR
THOUGHT PROCESSES ARE
BETTER THAN YOUR THOUGHT
PROCESSES -- WHEN THE
GOVERNMENT STARTS SAYING
THAT, THAT'S WHEN THIS
KIND OF ABUSE HAPPENS.
Terry: UNBELIEVABLE.
THE PREVALENCE OF THAT
THINKING, THAT NO ONE
ALONG THE WAY STOPPED THIS
IS FRIGHTENING.
Gordon: AND THE
PREVALENCE OF THINKING IF
YOU WANT TO HOME-SCHOOL,
OR IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT
RELIGIOUS VIEW OR A
DIFFERENT SOCIAL VIEW,
THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER
YOU'RE I INFERIOR, AND THIS
NEEDS TO BE STAMPED OUT.
I THINK THAT IDEA ALONE,
THAT ONE IS ONE WE ALL
NEED TO PAUSE, COULD IT
HAPPEN HERE?
IT HAPPENED IN GERMANY.
COULD IT HAPPEN HERE?
LET'S MAKE SURE IT
DOESN'T.
Terry: DID WE LEARN.
> WELL, AS WE CONSIDER
WORLD-WIDE RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM, WE REMEMBER THE
HORRORS OF THE HOLOCAUST.
HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY
WERE YOU JUST THIS LAST
SUNDAY.
THE INTERNATIONAL
FELLOWSHIP OF CHRISTIANS
AND JEWS RECENTLY RELEASED
THIS VIDEO HIGHLIGHTING
THE CURRENT PLIGHT OF MANY
HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS.
TAKE A LOOK.
*
Gordon: THEY
CERTAINLY DOING A
WONDERFUL WORK, AND KEEP
IN MIND THAT THERE WERE NO
REPARATIONS PASSED FOR
HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS FROM
THE FORMER SOVIET UNION.
SO WHETHER THAT WAS
UKRAINE OR RUSSIA, THERE
IS NO GOVERNMENT PAYMENTS
GOING TO THEM FOR WHAT
THEY ENDURED IN THE SECOND
WORLD WAR.
AND HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS,
NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE,
IN ISRAEL, UKRAINE,
RUSSIA -- IF YOU CAME FROM
THOSE COUNTRIES DURING THE
HOLOCAUST, THERE IS NO
REPARATIONS FOR YOU, AND
YOU'RE DEPENDENT ON
GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE IN
MOST CASES, AND WE NEED TO
STAND IN THE GAP AND SAY,
YES, WE CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE FOR YOU.
Terry: ABSOLUTELY.
Gordon: ANOTHER
SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL
EVENT FOR THE JEWISH
PEOPLE WAS THE SIX-DAY
WAR.
THIS SPRING MARKS THE
50th ANNIVERSARY.
TO COMMEMORATE THIS EVENT,
CBCBN IS RELEASING A
DOCUMENTARY CALLED "IN OUR
HANDS: THE BATTLE FOR
JERUSALEM."
IT TELLS THE STORY OF
ISRAEL'S DEFENSE FORCES,
AND HOW THEY RISKED
EVERYTHING FOR THE SAKE OF
THEIR HOMELAND.
HERE IS A LOOK AT THE
TRAILER.
I BELIEVE THE TIME HAS
COME TO BEGIN A BATTLE OF
ANNIHILATION.
THEY DIVIDED MY LAND.
THEY DIVIDED THE LAND OF
GOD.
IN THESE THREE WEEKS,
PEOPLE FELT LIKE THERE IS
GOING TO BE A SECOND
HOLOCAUST.
I JUST STARTED THIS JOB
10 MONTHS AGO, AND NOW YOU
WANT ME TO BLA PLAN AN ENTIRE
WAR IN TWO DAYS?
YES.
PEOPLE ARE VERY
MOTIVATED, BUT TO SAY THAT
THERE WAS NO FEAR IS
TELLING A LIE.
YOU'RE SCARED UNTIL THE
FIRST SHOT.
THE MINUTE THE FIRST SHOT
IS BEING FIRED, YOU PLAN
ON COMPLETING YOUR
MISSION.
TO BE RIGHT HERE AND
NOT TO GO IN, HISTORY WILL
NEVER FORGIVE YOU.
HAVE YOU GONE CRAZY?
YOU SET THIS ALL ON FIRE.
Gordon: I ENCOURAGE
YOU TO SEE THIS WONDERFUL
DOCUMENTARY.
IT IS THE ACCURATE HISTORY
OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
SIX-DAY WAR, TOLD FROM THE
VIEWPOINT OF THE SOLDIERS
WHO TOOK THE TEMPLE MOUNT
AND DECLARED TO THE WORLD
THE TEMPLE MOUNT IS IN OUR
HANDS.
THIS IS A ONE-DAY-ONLY
SHOWING ON MAY 23, WHICH
IS JERUSALEM REUNIFICATION
DAY ON THE JEWISH
CALENDAR.
SO WE'RE ON THEIR
CALENDAR, CELEBRATING THE
50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE
REUNIFICATION OF
JERUSALEM.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE
HISTORY.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS
HISTORY, YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND TODAY'S
HEADLINES.
SO WHEN THE U.N. COMES IN
AND SAYS, THE OCCUPATION
OF EAST JERUSALEM IS
BLATENTLY ILLEGAL, YOU
NEED TO HAVE THE
HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN
1967 AND HOW ISRAEL WAS
RESPONDING TO ARAB
AGGRESSION FROM SYRIA,
FROM JORDAN, FROM EGYPT.
YOU NEED TO KNOW THE
HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
IS GOING ON TODAY.
IF YOU WANT TO GET
TICKETS, WE HAVE A WEBSITE
FOR YOU, AND IT'S CALLED
inourhands1967.com.
WE HAVE 456 THEATERS
SIGNED UP SO FAR FOR THIS
ONE-DAY-ONLY EVENT.
SO GO TO THE WEBSITE AND
GET YOUR TICKETS AND SEE
THIS WONDERFUL HISTORY,
HOW GOD FULFILLED THE
PROMISE OF THE BIBLE, THAT
ONE DAY JERUSALEM WOULD NO
LONGER BE TRODDEN UNDER
THE FOOT OF THE GENTILES.
GO AND SEE IT.
Terry: MY TICKETS ARE
IN MY HANDS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS
THIS.
> WELL, COMING UP, HOW
CAN A GARBAGE DUMP BECOME
HOLY GROUND?
DANIEL KOLENDA JOINS US TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
DON'T GO AWAY.
Terry: BACK IN 2015,
"CHRIST FOR ALL NATIONS"
LED A GOSPEL CRUSADE IN AN
UNLIKELY PLACE.
IF YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, YOU
KNOW GOD USES UNLIKELY
PEOPLE AND PLACES, BUT A
GARBAGE DUMP?
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: THOUSANDS
OF MILES AWAY IN A
NEIGHBORHOOD IN GHANA,
KNOWN FOR CRIME, VIOLENCE,
AND POVERTY, THERE SITS A
CITY DUMP.
CREWS FROM "CHRIST FOR ALL
NATIONS," WITH DANIEL
KOLENDA, CLEARED THE
TRASH.
THEY BUILT A STAGE AND SET
UP LIGHT TOWERS.
MORE THAN 700,000 PEOPLE
FILLED THE PLACE TO
OVERFLOWING FOR SEVEN
NIGHTS OF WORSHIP.
REINHARD BONNKE STARTED
THIS MINISTRY MORE THAN 40
YEARS AGO.
Reporter: BY THE END
OF THE WEEK, THE DUMP HAD
A NEW NAME, "HOLY GROUND."
Terry: DANIEL KOLENDA
JOINS US NOW.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER
SEEN 700,000 PEOPLE
GATHERED ANYWHERE.
IT IS PRETTY
EXTRAORDINARY.
IT IS LIKE GETTING A
PREVIEW OF WHAT HEAVEN
WILL BE LIKE.
WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE FROM
EVERY TRIBE AND NATION,
AND THE SOUND IS LIKE THE
RUSHING OF WATERS.
IT IS REALLY AMAZING.
Terry: YOU FELT A
CALL ON YOUR LIFE AT THE
AGE OF SEVEN TO PREACH.
YEAH.
Terry: NOW HERE YOU
ARE TODAY, AND YOU'VE BEEN
TAPPED AS THE SUCCESSOR TO
REINHARD BONNKE.
WHAT IS THAT LIKE?
WHEN I STARTED OUT --
WHEN YOU SAY I WAS SEVEN
YEARS OLD, I REALLY WANTED
TO BE A MISSIONARY IN
AFRICA.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE
LORD HAD IN STORE.
I COULD NEVER HAVE
IMAGINED THE SCALE ON
WHICH WE'RE SEEING THE
HARVEST COMING IN RIGHT
NOW.
REINHARD BONNKE STARTED
THE MINISTRY ALMOST 50
YEARS AGO, AND WE HAVE
SEEN 76 MILLION PEOPLE
COME TO CHRIST, THAT'S
ALMOST 8,000 PEOPLE A DAY
FOR THE LAST 30
CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
SO IT IS PROBABLY THE
GREATEST HARVEST IN OUR
LIFETIME HAPPENING TODAY
AND WE'RE LIVING IN THE
MIDDLE OF IT.
Terry: I HAVE OFTEN
WONDERED, WHEN I LOOK AT
REINHART'S WORK OVER THE
YEARS, HOW ONE DECIDES
WHERE YOU'LL GO.
A GARBAGE DUMP -- HOW DID
THAT HAPPEN?
WE GET TOGETHER EVERY
YEAR WITH OUR TEAM AND WE
PRAY AND HEAR WHERE THE
LORD WANTS US TO COME.
AND WE HEAR WHERE THE NEED
IS THE GREATEST.
THIS WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN
AREA.
IT WAS A MUSLIM AREA.
SO THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ATTENDED THOSE
MEETINGS WERE MUSLIMS.
BUT IT WASN'T JUST A
PRAISE AND WORSHIP
SERVICE, ALTHOUGH WE
CAPTURED THAT FOR THIS
ALBUM, IT WAS THE
PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL,
AND OVER 300,000 PEOPLE
CAME TO CHRIST OVER THE
PERIOD OF FOUR DAYS DURING
THAT CRUSADE.
Terry: GOD HAS
BLESSED REINHARD BONNKE'S
WORK OVER THE YEARS WITH
SIGNS AND MIRACLES, AND
WHAT DID YOU SEE THIS TIME
IN GHANA?
PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME,
WHAT'S THE GREATEST
MIRACLE, AND I ALWAYS SAY,
HOW FAR BACK DO YOU WANT
ME TO GO?
WE SAW CRIPPLES WALKING
EVERY NIGHT, DEAF EARS
OPENING.
THE GREATEST THING WE SAW
DURING THAT CAMPAIGN WAS
JUST DEAF EARS.
SOMETIMES IT IS
INTERESTING HOW ONE THING
SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE
THAN ANOTHER.
BLIND EYES WERE OPENED.
IT IS LIKE LIVING IN THE
BOOK OF ACTS.
IT IS LIKE BEING WITH
JESUS.
HE IS STILL THE SAME.
Terry: CAN YOU
IMAGINE SOMEONE HAS LOST
THEIR HEARING, OR BEEN
BORN OUT OF IT, GOD
RESTORING IT TO YOU TO THE
SOUND OF 700,000 PEOPLE
WORSHIPPING.
OR IMAGINE YOU WERE
BORN BLIND, AND THE FIRST
SIGHT YOU SEE IS 700,000
PEOPLE.
Terry: I KNOW THERE
IS SO MUCH THAT GOES ON IN
THE SPIRIT REALM WHEN YOU
HAVE THESE GATHERINGS,
INCLUDING DEMONIC POWER
THAT SHOWS UP.
HOW DO YOU PRAY AGAINST
THAT?
HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT?
IN THE FIRST PLACE, WE
DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME
FOCUSING ON THE DEVIL.
WE PREACH JESUS.
Terry: HE GETS OUT OF
THERE PRETTY QUICKLY.
YEAH.
BUT DURING THE WEEK, WE
ALWAYS TAKE TIME TO
ACTUALLY BREAK THE CURSES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE
PEOPLE KNOW.
I GET A LIST FROM THE
PASTORS OF THE LOCAL
DEITIES, IDOLS, CURSES,
AND THESE ARE THINGS
PEOPLE LIVE IN SUCH FEAR
OF THEY AREN'T WILLING TO
SAY THEIR NAME OUT LOUD.
IN THIS PAST CRUSADE WE
CAME FROM, MY INTERPRETER
REFUSED TO INTERPRET
BECAUSE HE, THE PASTOR,
WAS IN SO MUCH FEAR OF
THOSE THINGS.
SO I GOT ANOTHER
INTERPRETER.
I WE TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU
GOT SOMETHING FROM THE
WITCH DOCTOR, COME AND
BRING THEM, AND PUT THEM
IN THESE DRUMS, WE'LL SOAK
THEM WITH GASOLINE, AND WE
BURN THEM IN JESUS' NAME
AND BREAK THE CURSES.
AND PEOPLE BEGIN TO
REJOICE AND DANCE.
AS THE PEOPLE REALIZE, I I
DEFIED THESE LOCAL
DEITIES, AND I DID NOT
DIE.
WOW, JESUS IS GREATER THAN
THESE DEITIES.
Terry: YOU'VE
MENTIONED THE RECORDING
THAT YOU'VE DONE, BOTH A
C.D. AND A D.V.D.
WHAT WILL PEOPLE GET ON
THIS?
THIS ALBUM, "HOLY
GROUND" -- I'M AN
EVANGELIST PRIMARILY, BUT
EVILLISM ANEVANGELISM AND WORSHIP GO
TOGETHER.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
LISTEN TO THIS AND YOU
WATCH THIS, IT TRANSPORTS
YOU RIGHT TO THE EPICENTER
OF ONE OF THE GREATEST
MOVES OF GOD IN HISTORY.
YOU'LL FEEL LIKE YOU'RE
THERE.
I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO
BRING THIS INTO PEOPLE'S
LIVES.
THERE IS ONE MOMENT DURING
ONE OF THE SONGS -- IT IS
ACTUALLY THE SONG THAT IS
PLAYING RIGHT NOW, "FILL
ME NOW."
THAT SONG THEY USED TO
SING AT AZUZA STREET, AND
PEOPLE ARE ROARING AND NEW
TONGUES SPONTANEOUSLY.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS
ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE
WORLD.
Terry: AND HOW DO
PEOPLE GET AHOLD OF THIS?
THEY CAN GO TO
holygroundworship.com.
Terry: YOU HAVE A
FAIRLY CRUSADE HAPPENING
THIS FALL, AND YOU TALK
ABOUT A MOMENT IN TIME,
AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING
TO BE ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL
MOMENTS IN TIME.
YEAH.
REINHARD BONNKE WANTS TO
GO BACK FOR ONE LAST
CRUSADE.
HE HAS NOT BEEN IN AFRICA
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
HE WANTS TO COME BACK TO
LEGOS, NIGERIA, AND WE ARE
EXPECTING THE LARGEST
GATHERING OF HUMAN BEINGS
EVER EXPECTED.
Terry: WHAT ARE YOU
EXPECTING?
PROBABLY THREE MILLION
IN ONE SERVICE.
Terry: WOW, THAT IS
GOING TO BE A MOMENT IN
TIME.
> I WANT TO MENTION --
LET ME HOLD THIS UP.
DANIEL KOLENDA'S C.D. AND
D.V.D. COMBO, AND IT IS
CALLED "HOLY GROUND," AND
IT WAIT IS A PLACE GOD MADE
HOLY THAT WAS A DUMP SITE.
YOU WANT TO GET AHOLD OF
IT.
IT IS PRETTY SPECIAL.
THANK YOU.
IT IS SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE
YOU HERE.
THANK YOU.
Gordon: UP NEXT, HE
CAME TO A LIFE-CHANGING
CONCLUSION.
NICE GUYS FINISH LAST.
I NO LONGER AM GOING TO BE
THE NICE GUY.
Gordon: FIND OUT HOW
THAT DECISION LED HIM INTO
Gordon: WE'VE ALL
HEARD "NICE GUYS FINISH
LAST."
WELL, THAT WAS DAVID'S
EXPERIENCE.
SO HE DECIDED TO SET OUT
ON A JOURNEY HE BELIEVED
WAS FULL OF FUN AND
HAPPINESS.
INSTEAD, THAT JOURNEY
WOULD BRING HIM A 22-YEAR
PRISON SENTENCE.
TAKE A LOOK.
IT WAS BUILT IN ME TO
WIN EVERY TIME.
YOU DON'T LOSE.
Reporter: DAVID'S
DRIVE TO WIN CAME FROM HIS
FATHER, A COACH AND
WORLD-CLASS DIVING
CHAMPION WHO PUSHED HIM TO
BE HIS BEST.
I WAS CO-CAPTAIN OF THE
WRESTLING TEAM.
AND I WOULD COME HOME, AND
I SAID, I PINNED HIM.
AND HE SAID, WHAT ROUND?
WELL, THE SECOND ROUND.
YOU LET HIM GET OUT OF
THE FIRST ROUND?
Reporter: ALWAYS THE
OUTSIDER, HE MEASURED HIS
SELF-WORTH BY WHAT OTHER
PEOPLE HAD.
IF THEY HAD THE GIRL OR
THE CAR OR ALL OF THAT
STUFF, THEY WERE ACCEPTED
BECAUSE THAT HAD THAT
STUFF.
AND I WANTED THAT.
BUT ONCE I GOT IT, IT
DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
Reporter: IN COLLEGE
HER WORKEHE WORKED SEVERAL JOBS
TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH HIS
PEERS.
HE HAD MONEY, BUT HAD NO
TIME TO ENJOY IT.
AND HE BECAME BITTER.
I CONSTANTLY MISSED THE
FUN.
I MISSED THE EXCITEMENT.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
THESE OTHER KIDS GET THESE
ALLOWANCES FROM THEIR
PARENTS TO GO OUT AND DO
THESE THINGS, AND I HAVE
TO WORK.
BUT HERE IS WHERE IT
FLIPPED: I'M THE GUY WHO
IS DOING EVERYTHING THE
RIGHT WAY AND IT'S NOT
WORKING.
AND I SAID, THAT'S IT.
NICE GUYS FINISH LAST.
I'M NO LONGER GOING TO BE
THE NICE GUY.
Reporter: WHEN DAVID
WAS 19, ONE OF HIS FRIENDS
TOLD HIM THEY COULD MAKE
EASY CASH SELLING COCAINE.
ON HIS WORK BREAK ONE
NIGHT, DAVID AND HIS
FRIENDS MADE A DEAL IN THE
PARKING LOT.
THE FIRST TRANSACTION I
MADE WAS TWO GRAMS OF
COCAINE FOR TWO $100
BILLS, AND THE WHOLE
TRANSACTION TOOK TWO
MINUTES.
AND I MADE MORE IN THAT
TRANSACTION IN TWO MINUTES
THAN I MADE WORKING
PART-TIME HOURS A WHOLE
WEEK WHILE GOING TO
COLLEGE.
AND I REMEMBER THE MORAL
COMPASS FLIPPING BACK AND
FORTH.
Reporter: BUT THE
INSTANT MONEY WAS
INTOXICATING.
HE DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE,
JOINED THE BUSINESS, AND
WAS SOON MAKING $20,000 A
MONTH.
I'M, LIKE, WAIT A
SECOND.
THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT
WORLD, AND I LIKED IT.
I DIDN'T JUST WANT A SUIT,
I WANTED THE ARMANI.
Reporter: HE STARTED
A CHAIN OF STORES, TRYING
TO CONVINCE HIMSELF THAT
ONE DAY HE WOULD QUIT THE
DRUG DEALING ALL TOGETHER.
I DID NOT WANT TO GO
DEEPER.
I WANTED TO BELIEVE A LIE
THAT I WASN'T GOING INTO
THE DRUG BUSINESS FOR
LIFE.
I WAS GOING INTO THE DRUG
BUSINESS TO MAKE ENOUGH
MONEY TO TAKE THE MONEY
OUT TO GO MAKE MY LIFE.
Reporter: HIS MOTHER
HAD BEEN PRAYING FOR HIM
TO TURN TO GOD.
AND SHE HAD SUSPICIONS
ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH
DRUGS.
ONE DAY SHE CONFRONTED HIM
ABOUT IT, AND DAVID, OF
COURSE, DENIED IT.
I DEFLECTEDED THE
CONFRONTATION IN THAT
MOMENT.
BUT I REMEMBER WALKING
OUT, THINKING, I REALLY
NEED TO STOP HIS BUSINESS.
THIS IS NOT HONORING MY
PARENTS.
THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY
RAISED ME TO BE.
I'M RISKING RUINING THE
FAMILY NAME FOR MONEY.
Reporter: DAVID ALSO
STARTED TO TAKE A HARD
LOOK AT WHAT WAS AT RISK.
PRISON TIME.
YOU CAN'T BUY YOUR WAY OUT
OF THESE THINGS.
IT COULD BE LIFE OR DEATH
ON THE TARMAC OF AN
AIRPORT.
YOU COULD GET KILLED
DURING A DRUG DEAL.
YOU COULD GET ROBBED.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING TO
MYSELF, THIS IS NO LONGER
FUN.
I WANT OUT OF THIS.
Reporter: HE DECIDED
ONE LAST BIG SCORE WOULD
BE ENOUGH TO GET OUT FOR
GOOD.
SO HE AGREED TO BROKER A
DEAL TRADING STOLEN
AIRPLANES FOR COCAINE AND
CASH.
HE DIDN'T KNOW THE FEDS
WERE WATCHING.
IN 1989 HE GOT BUSTED AND
WAS SENTENCED TO 22 YEARS.
I REMEMBER IT WAS COLD.
AND I REMEMBER BEING
STRIPPED SEARCHED.
AND I'M STANDING THERE
NAKED, AND I THOUGHT, I
HAVE REALLY HIT ROCK
BOTTOM.
AND NOW I'M GETTING READY
TO GO DOWN THE PIER TO MY
PRISON CELL IN LEVENWORTH
PENITENTIARY, AND I
REMEMBER THINKING TO
MYSELF, HOW FAR HAVE I
REALLY FALLEN?
Reporter: BOTH HIS
CELL MATES HAD BECOME
CHRISTIANS AND TRIED TO
TALK TO HIM ABOUT JESUS,
BUT HE WANTED NOTHING TO
DO WITH GOD.
THEN MONTHS LATER, A VISIT
FROM HIS MOTHER CHANGED
HIS THINKING.
MY MOTHER LOOKED AT ME,
AND SHE SAID, MY GOD, SON,
YOU LOOK LIKE A HOLOCAUST
VICTIM.
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, I
HAVE REALLY DROPPED TO THE
LOWEST LEVELS OF
DEGRADATION.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING TO
MYSELF, IF THIS IS ALL
THERE IS, THIS DOESN'T
SATISFY.
I NEED -- I THINK I NEED
GOD.
Reporter: THAT NIGHT
HE WENT TO A BIBLE STUDY
WITH HIS CELL MATES AND
GAVE HIS LIFE TO JESUS
CHRIST.
I REMEMBER INVITING
JESUS IN, GIVING UP MY
WILL FOR HIS.
THAT EXCHANGE TOOK PLACE.
I REMEMBER KNOWING THAT HE
WOULD FORGIVE MY PAST AND
GIVE ME A FRESH SLATE THAT
WAS CLEAN.
AND I KNEW THAT MY
COMMITMENT WAS A COVENANT.
AND I REMEMBER, AFTER I
PRAYED THAT PRAYER, I JUST
KNEW I WAS DIFFERENT ON
THE INSIDE.
Reporter: DAVID
FOUNDED A BIBLE MINISTRY
IN PRISON WHILE SERVING 20
YEARS.
TODAY HE IS A SPEAKER AND
PASTOR OF AN ONLINE
MINISTRY.
HE AND HIS WIFE WORK
TOGETHER TO HELP PEOPLE
FIND PEACE AND HOPE.
WHEN WE REALLY GIVE IT
ALL TO THE LORD, THEL TAKE
IT AND HE GIVES US ALL OF
HIM IN THAT PLACE IN
RETURN.
Gordon: AND HE'LL DO
THE SAME FOR YOU.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN A
PRISON CELL IN
LEAVENWORTH.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE
THAT KIND OF BOTTOM BEFORE
YOU TURN TO HIM.
YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.
AND MAYBE LIKE DAVID YOU
GREW UP WITH RESENTMENTS.
AND YOU STARTED THINKING,
WHAT GOOD IS IT TO DO
GOOD?
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO GET ME
ANYWHERE.
AND THEN YOU WERE HELD TO
UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS,
YOU WERE HELD TO STANDARDS
THAT NOBODY COULD LIVE UP
TO.
AND EVERY TIME YOU HIT A
GOAL, IT SEEMED LIKE THE
BAR JUST GOT HIGHER.
AND YOU WERE GOING, WHAT
USE IS IT?
DON'T LET THAT BITTERNESS
AND RESENTMENT TURN YOU
AWAY FROM GOD BECAUSE
THAT'S NOT GOD.
WHAT HE DOES, HE LOVES YOU
UNCONDITIONALLY.
THATHAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, HE IS NOT
ANGRY WITH YOU.
HE IS NOT DISAPPOINTED IN
YOU.
HE IS NOT HOLDING A GRUDGE
AGAINST YOU.
HE HAS NOT GOT A LIST OF
SINS THAT YOU NEED TO
APOLOGIZE FOR.
NO.
HE IS NOT KEEPING A RECORD
OF WRONGS.
WHAT HE IS WAITING FOR IS
FOR YOU TO TURN AND SAY, I
WANT TO LEAVE ALL OF THIS
BEHIND, ALL OF MY WAY, AND
SURRENDER MY WILL TO HIM.
THAT'S WHAT HE IS WAITING
FOR.
NOT YOUR WILL, BUT HIS
WILL BE DONE IN YOUR LIFE.
WHEN YOU DO THAT, WHEN YOU
MAKE THAT EXCHANGE,
WONDERFUL THINGS HAPPEN.
AND THE MOST WONDERFUL
THING IS YOU GET TO KNOW
HIS PRESENCE.
YOU GET TO HEAR THIS
VOICE.
YOU GET TO HAVE HIM
GUIDING YOU THROUGH LIFE.
JUST WHAT HE DID FOR DAVID
HE WILL DO FOR YOU IF YOU
JUST FOLLOW THE SAME
THING.
SO RIGHT NOW JUST BOW YOUR
HEAD.
PRAY THIS VERY SIMPLE
PRAYER, JUST AS DAVID DID,
AND SEE WHAT GOD WILL DO
FOR YOU.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,
JUST SAY HIS NAME.
JESUS, I COME TO YOU, AND
I WANT THIS COVENANT THAT
DAVID MADE.
NO LONGER MY WILL BUT YOUR
WILL BE DONE IN MY LIFE.
I MAKE IT NOW, AND I MAKE
IT IN YOUR NAME.
AMEN.
AND AMEN.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,
I'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR
YOU.
IT'S FREE.
IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL
US: 1-800-700-7000.
JUST SAY, I PRAYED WITH
THAT GUY ON TV.
WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU FREE
OF CHARGE.