Gordon: IT IS THE

MOST TWEETED-STREAMING TV

SERIES OF THE YEAR, THE

NEW NETFLIX SERIES "13

REASONS WHY."

> PLUS, WHAT CHANGED

THIS ADDICT'S LIFE AFTER

SEVEN YEARS OF DRUG

ADDICTION.

I SAID, GOD, IF YOU'RE

REAL, I'M GOING TO

SURRENDER MY LIFE TO YOU.

Gordon: PASTOR AND

AUTHOR ROBBIE GALATY

SHARES HIS AMAZING

TRANSFORMATION, ALL ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT

THE NEW NETFLIX SERIES "13

REASON IS WHY."

IT IS CONFRONTING TEEN

SUICIDE AND BULLYING, AND

SURPASSING A RECORD WITH

OVER 3.5 MILLION TWEETS.

Terry: THE TEEN DRAMA

DEALS WITH VERY HEAVY

ISSUES AND REVOLVES AROUND

17-YEAR-OLD HANNA BAKER,

WHO TAKES HER OWN LIFE AND

LEAVES BEHIND CASSETTE

RECORDINGS FOR 13 PEOPLE

WHO SHE SAYS ARE PART OF

WHY SHE KILLED HERSELF.

THE SHOW DEALS WITH

EVERYTHING FROM SEXUAL

ASSAULT TO BULLYING AND

TWO SUICIDES.

THE SERIES IS CREDITED

WITH ALMOST 100% INCREASE

IN THE NUMBER OF CALLS TO

SUICIDE HOT LINES, NOT

JUST HERE IN THE UNITED

STATES, BUT IN PLACES LIKE

BRAZIL AND AUSTRALIA.

Gordon: THERE HAS

BEEN LOTS OF REACTION,

BOTH POSITIVE AND

NEGATIVE.

THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION

OF SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS

SAYS THE SHOW IS EXTREMELY

DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE WHO

ARE LIVING WITH DEPRESSION

OR WHO HAVE SUICIDAL

THOUGHTS.

THEY POSTED ON Facebook

A CONSIDERATION FOR

EDUCATORS, SAYING THAT THE

SHOW MAY ACTUALLY PROMPT

VIEWERS TO CONSIDER OR

ATTEMPT SUICIDE.

SO THEY RECOMMEND THAT

VULNERABLE YOUTH DO NOT

WATCH THE SHOW.

THEY ALSO ENCOURAGE

EDUCATORS TO ENGAGE IN

CONVERSATIONS WITH

STUDENTS.

OTHERS SAY IT IS A SERIES

THAT IS MUCH-NEEDED IN OUR

SOCIETY TODAY, AND ONE

TEEN SAYS THERE ARE SO

MANY GREAT MESSAGES IN

THIS SERIES THAT ARE

USUALLY SWEPT UNDER THE

RUG IN OUR SOCIETY, BUT

ARE IMPORTANT IN A

TEENAGER'S LIFE.

AND JOSEPH, A FATHER OF

FOUR SAYS, "IT WAS

ENLIGHTENING TO SEE WHAT

MY TEEN MAY BE

EXPERIENCING AND EXPOSED

TO IN HIGH SCHOOL.

THE SHOW HAS NO FILTERS,

AND IS QUITE EXPLICIT.

IT IS RATED MATURE, SO IT

IS BETTER SUITED FOR HIGH

SCHOOL STUDENTS.

STUDENTS.

PARENTS SHOULD DEFINITELY

WATCH IT AND DISCUSS IT

WITH THEIR TEEN."

AND MARGARET, A MOTHER AND

GRANDMOTHER SHARES, "I

FOUND THE TRUTH OF IT TO

BE SAD AND REVEALING.

WITHOUT JESUS, THERE WILL

NEVER BEEN HOPE, AND

THAT'S WHAT I FELT WAS

MISSING AT EVERY TURN.

TOO BAD THE CHRISTIAN

WORLD HAS NOT TACKLED THE

SAME SUBJECT WITH THE SAME

STRENGTH, BUT WITH THE

MESSAGE OF CHRIST AT THE

END."

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT

THAT, TERRY?

Terry: WOW!

Gordon: WE TEND TO

SHY AWAY FROM DISCUSSING

SUICIDE.

Terry: AND BEING

REALLY CANDID ABOUT

WHATEVER IT IS WE DISCUSS.

I THINK KIDS -- THIS IS

OBVIOUSLY SAYING THEY ARE

EXPOSED TO ALL OF THIS IN

A VERY REAL, VERY DEEP

WAY.

SO KNOWING ABOUT IT IS ONE

THING, AND THEN ADDRESSING

IT HONESTLY AND NOT

CAMOUFLAGING IT IN ANY WAY

IS ANOTHER.

I AGREE WITH THE

GRANDMOTHER AT THE END, TO

GIVE ANYTHING BUT THAT

JESUS IS THE ANSWER IS TO

GIVE A FALSE HOPE.

Gordon: YES.

WITHOUT GOD AND WITHOUT

HOPE IN THE WORLD, WITHOUT

SOME HOPE THERE IS

REDEMPTION -- AND NOT ONLY

SOME HOPE THERE IS

REDEMPTION, BUT THAT THERE

IS GOING TO BE JUSTICE.

PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE

GOING THROUGH BULLYING,

YOU'RE GOING THROUGH

SEXUAL ASSAULT --

VENGEANCE IS MINE, SAYETH

THE LORD, AND IF YOU DON'T

HAVE THAT HOPE, WHERE DO

YOU GO?

Terry: AND HOW ABOUT

SELF-WORTH?

BECAUSE IN THE END, YOU

CAN'T CHANGE ALL OF THESE

EXTERNAL THINGS THAT ARE

OUT THERE.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE MEAN

PEOPLE.

BUT YOU CAN CHANGE AN

UNDERSTANDING OF WHO YOU

ARE, WHO GOD CREATED YOU

TO BE, AND THAT, I THINK,

IS MAYBE THE STRONGEST

BARRIER WEEC WE'VE GOT AGAINST

WHAT THE WORLD SHOOTS AT

US.

Gordon: AND IT IS

ALSO TO GET PAST THE PAST.

SO OFTEN WHEN WE'RE HURT,

AND PARTICULARLY WHEN

WE'RE HURT AND IT IS NOT

JUSTIFIED.

IT IS COMPLETELY WRONG,

AND WE WANT TO STAY IN

THAT MOMENT AND CONTINUE

TO JUDGE THAT MOMENT.

AND IN THAT, WE'RE ALSO

JUDGING OURSELVES.

WHY DID I LET MYSELF GET

EXPOSED TO THAT?

OR WHY DIDN'T I NOT GO TO

SCHOOL THAT DAY?

OR WHATEVER.

WE'RE STUCK IN THAT

MOMENT.

AND WITH CHRIST YOU CAN

GET FREE FROM THAT MOMENT.

YOU CAN SAY, I CAN LEAVE

THAT.

BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE MADE

NEW, AND I CAN HAVE A NEW

DAY IN HIM.

AND LET'S LOOK FORWARD TO

TODAY BECAUSE GOD'S GOING

TO HAVE SOME GREAT

ADVENTURE FOR ME TODAY.

Terry: AND I THINK

ALSO, DON'T YOU, AS A

PARENT, THAT PARENTS

SHOULD WATCH THIS.

PARENTS SHOULD SEE IT.

IT SHOULD BE A TOPIC OF

CONVERSATION WHERE THE

PARENT AND THE CHILD GET

TO DISCUSS WHAT IS

HAPPENING THERE, AND MAYBE

OPENING THE DOOR TO WHAT

IS HAPPENING AT YOUR

SCHOOL.

Gordon: I FOUND AS A

PARENT, MY CHILDREN REALLY

RESPONDED WHEN I RESPONDED

TO BULLYING.

I WASN'T GOING TO WAIT FOR

JUSTICE.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: WE WERE GOING

TO HAVE IT.

AND I'M GOING TO CONFRONT

IT.

I'M GOING TO GET ON THE

PHONE OR I'M GOING TO GO

KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND SAY,

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

I NEED TO BE ASSURED IT'S

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

AGAIN.

Terry: EXACTLY.

Gordon: AND THE KIDS

WERE USUALLY EMBARRASSED

BY IT, BUT AT THE END OF

THE DAY, I THINK THEY

LIKED IT.

AND I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE

VIGILANT.

KATHRYN WAS --

Terry: RIGHT BEHIND

YOU.

Gordon: NO, SHE WAS

LEADING.

SHE WAS LEADING.

> WELL, WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND THAT SUICIDE IS

THE SECOND LEADING --

UNDER LINE THAT -- SECOND

LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH

AMONG TEENAGERS IN THE

UNITED STATES.

IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW

NEEDS HELP, CALL THE

NATIONAL SUICIDE

PREVENTION HOTLINE, 1-800-

1-800-273-8255.

ACTOR CHRIS PRATT IS

GETTING A STAR ON THE

HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME,

AND HE IS THANKING GOD FOR

HIS BLESSINGS.

Terry: HE POSTED A

SNEAK PEEK INSTAGRAM

PHOTO.

ALONG WITH THIS VERSE:

"THE LORD HAS DONE GREAT

THINGS FOR US, AND WE ARE

FILLED WITH JOY."

CHRIS HAS BEEN VERY

OUTSPOKEN ABOUT HIS FAITH,

AND HE STARS IN "GUARDIANS

OF THE GALAXY, VOLUME 2,"

AND IT RELEASES IN THE

UNITED STATES ON MAY

5th.

Gordon: WE'RE ALL

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT

ONE.

ARE YOU?

Terry: BOYS ARE BOYS,

AND THEY'RE HEROS IN

DISGUISE.

Gordon: THERE ARE

SOME LAUGH LINES IN IT.

YOU MIGHT LIKE IT.

> ANOTHER HOLLYWOOD STAR

IS MAKING HISTORY.

KIRK CAMERON HOSTED THE

"NATIONAL BIBLE BEE GAME

SHOW."

AND OVER ONE MILLION

PEOPLE TUNED IN LIVE TO

VIEW THE HISTORIC

PREMIERE.

IT WAS THE FIRST

TELEVISION SERIES TO

BROADCAST ON Facebook

LIVE.

WITH 72 CONTESTANTS

COMPETING FOR 270,000

DOLLARS IN PRIZE MONEY.

THESE YOUNG PEOPLE

MEMORIZED UP TO 840 VERSES

FROM THE BIBLE IN JUST 90

DAYS.

I'M GOING TO SAY THAT

JESUS WEPT WITH ONE OF

THOSE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Gordon: HERE'S AN

IDEA FOR YOU, IF YOU WANT

TO GET YOUR CHILDREN

MEMORIZING BIBLE VERSES,

WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD

THING, THE MORE YOU

MEMORIZE, THE MORE IT WILL

HOLD IN THEIR ADULT YEARS

AND WILL IT BE SOMETHING

TO LEAN BACK ON -- OFFER

THEM MONEY FOR IT.

FOR EVERY BIBLE VERSE YOU

CAN RECITE FOR ME, I'LL

GIVE YOU A DOLLAR A WEEK

OR A DOLLAR A VERSE, AND

SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU'LL GET JESUS WEPT, PAY

ME THE DOLLAR.

REALIZE NOW THEY'VE GOT TO

GO MEMORIZE A LONGER ONE.

> DID YOU KNOW THAT

ISRAEL HOLDS SOMETHING

SIMILAR TO THE BIBLE BEE

EVERY YEAR.

IT IS CALLED "THE

INTERNATIONAL BIBLE QUIZ,"

AND IT BRINGS TOGETHER

DOZENS OF JEWISH YOUTH,

AGE 14 TO 18 FROM AROUND

THE WORLD.

Terry: THIS YEAR THE

CONTESTANTS ARE FROM 33

DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, AND

THEY MEET IN ISRAEL FOR A

TWO AND A HALF WEEK BIBLE

CAMP.

THEY EXPLORE THEIR

HERITAGE AND MEET WITH

SEVERAL GOVERNMENT

OFFICIALS.

ON ISRAEL'S INDEPENDENCE

DAY, MAY 1st AND 2

SIGNIFICANT, THE2nd,THEY ARE TESTED.

WHO KNEW?

Gordon: SPEAKING OF

ISRAEL, WE HAVE A SHORT

TRAILER FOR YOU.

TAKE A LOOK.

THE TIME HAS COME TO

BEGIN A BATTLE OF

ANNIHILATION.

OUR GOAL IS CLEAR: TO WIPE

ISRAEL OFF THE MAP.

WE SHALL DESTROY ISRAEL

AND ITS INHABITANTS.

I JUST STARTED THIS JOB

10 MONTHS AGO, AND NOW YOU

WANT ME TO PLAN AN ENTIRE

WAR IN TWO DAYS?

YES.

TAKE THE OLD CITY AND

BE DONE WITH IT.

NO MORE BLOODSHED.

WE SHOULD GO IN NOW.

AND WHAT IS YOUR GREAT

STRATEGY FOR THAT?

TO BE RIGHT HERE AND

NOT TO GO IN, HISTORY WILL

NEVER FORGIVE YOU.

JERUSALEM HAS NEVER

BEEN CONQUERED FROM THE

EAST.

NOT SINCE KING DAVID'S

TIME.

SO IT WILL BE THE

SECOND TIME.

AND THE LAST ONE.

GO TO THE OLD CITY

IMMEDIATELY AND CAPTURE

IT.

MOVE TOWARDS THE LION'S

GATE.

IT WAS A MASSIVE

BATTLE, BUT YOU DIDN'T

COMPLAIN.

FOR YOU IT WAS ENOUGH TO

DRIVE FORWARD AND TO

CONQUER.

JERUSALEM IS YOURS.

FOREVER.

Gordon: TO UNDERSTAND

TODAY'S HEADLINES, WHEN

YOU SEE THE U.N. PASSING

RESOLUTIONS AGAINST

ISRAEL, WHEN YOU HEAR OF

ALL OF THE CONFLICT IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE

SOURCE OF IT.

IT IS THE SIX-DAY WAR.

IT IS THE STORY OF THE

PARATROOPERS WHO RETOOK

THE TEMPLE MOUNT, AND

ANNOUNCED TO THE WORLD

THAT THE TEMPLE MOUNT IS

IN OUR HANDS, AND

FULFILLED THE PROPHECIES

IN THE BIBLE THAT ONCE

AGAIN JERUSALEM WOULD NO

LONGER BE TRODDEN UNDER

THE FOOT OF THE GENTILES.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GET

INFORMED AND GET THE REAL

HISTORY OF WHAT REALLY

HAPPENED, GO SEE THE

MOVIE.

TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE NOW.

THE MOVIE IS A

ONE-DAY-ONLY, TUESDAY, MAY

23, AND THAT'S JERUSALEM

REUNIFICATION DAY.

THAT'S THE REASON WE

PICKED IT.

ON OUR CALENDAR, IT WILL

BE JUNE 7, BUT THE MOVIE

WON'T BE OUT THEN.

IT IS ONLY OUT THERE

TUESDAY, MAY 23.

IF YOU WANT TICKETS, GO

TO inourhands1967.com.

COMING UP, PASTOR AN

AUTHOR ROBBIE TELLS HOW HE

WENT FROM SPENDING ALMOST

$200 A DAY ON DRUGS TO

PREACHING THE GOSPEL.

HEAR ABOUT HIS AMAZING

TRANSFORMATION WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Gordon: WELL, DRUG

ADDICTION ALMOST DESTROYED

ROBBIE GALATY'S LIFE.

HE HAD TO LIE AND STEAL

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST

TO SUPPORT HIS HABIT.

ONE DAY HE REMEMBERED A

CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH A

FRIEND IN COLLEGE, A

CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMEONE

NAMED JESUS.

Reporter: IN 1999,

ROBBIE GALATY WAS ADDICTED

TO PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.

THAT ADDICTION LED TO A

$200 HEROIN AND COCAINE

HABIT.

AND THEN HE STARTED

DEALING DRUGS TO SUPPORT

THAT HABIT.

HE GREW DESPERATE.

I GOT ON MY KNEES, AND

HERE IS WHAT I LITERALLY

TOLD THE LORD.

I SAID, GOD, IF YOU'RE

REAL, I'M GOING TO

SURRENDER MY LIFE TO YOU.

ON THAT DAY, I HAD A

24-HOUR TRANSFORMATIONAL

CONVERSION.

Reporter: IN HIS BOOK

"THE FORGOTTEN JESUS,"

ROBBIE HELPS OTHERS

DEVELOP THE BIBLE CULTURE

OF THE TIMES.

Gordon: JOINING ME

NOW IS ROBBIE GALATY.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Gordon: LET'S GO BACK

TO THAT CONVERSATION IN

COLLEGE.

WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?

HIS NAME IS JEREMY

BROWN, AND HE IS ABOUT 6'

5," AND I'M 6' 6," AND HE

SAID, IF EVERYONE HAS

TURNED THEIR BACK ON YOU,

YOU CAN CRY OUT TO THE

LORD IN REPENTANCE, AND

HE'LL SAVE YOU.

I SAID, JEREMY, THANKS,

BUT NOT THANKS.

BUT HE SOWED THE SEEDS.

AND IN 2002,

NOVEMBER 12th, I CRIED

OUT TO THE LORD.

I WASN'T IN A CHURCH.

IT WAS A REVIVAL SERVICE.

AND I HAD A 24-HOUR

REVIVAL EXPERIENCE WITH

THE LORD.

IT WAS SO RADICAL THE NEXT

DAY I WENT TO MY DAD.

I KNEW I WAS GOING INTO

THE MINISTRY THE DAY I WAS

SAVED.

I SAID, DAD, I'M GOING

INTO THE MINISTRY.

MY DAD, WHO WATCHED HIS

DRUG-ADDICTED SON FOR SO

MANY YEARS, HE'S THINKING,

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING.

AND HE WAS THINKING, HOW

ARE YOU GOING TO GET

MARRIED BEING A PRIEST?

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS

IN THE MINISTRY.

I WENT TO A PROTESTANT

CHURCH.

AND HE SAID, HOW ARE YOU

GOING TO GET MARRIED BEING

A PRIEST?

AND I SAID, NO, DAD, NOT A

PRIEST.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT GOD WAS

DOING, BUT I KNEW HE WAS

UP TO SOMETHING.

Gordon: WHAT ABOUT

THAT 24-HOUR PERIOD THAT

CONVINCED YOU WERE GOING

INTO MINISTRY?

I WENT TO, OF ALL

PLACES, A SOUTHERN

CHRISTIAN BAPTIST COLLEGE,

TO PLAY BASKETBALL AT A

ROMAN CATHOLIC.

I WAS THE TARGET OF ANY

EVANGELIST ON CAMPUS.

I CRUISED THROUGH THE

CAMPUS BLARING TUPAC, BUT

I WAS LOST.

I REMEMBERED HEARING

MINISTRY AND WHAT GOD WAS

DOING IN THEIR LIVES, AND

GOD JUST KIND OF WOOED ME

TO HIMSELF.

HE PREPARED ME FOR THAT,

COMMUNECATIONCOMMUNICATIONS BACKGROUND.

HE NEVER WASTES A MESS IN

OUR LIVES.

GOD USED THAT.

JUST KNEW THIS IS WHAT I

WAS GOING TO DO THE REST

OF MY LIFE.

Gordon: YEAH, HE LIVE

GUIDE AND SHAPE YOUR LIFE,

EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN

AWARE HE IS GUIDING AND

SHAPING YOUR LIFE.

HE WILL STILL DO THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

Gordon: HOW BAD DID

IT GET FOR YOU?

AT THE HEIGHT OF IT, I

HAD A $180 A DAY HEROIN

AND COCAINE ADDICTION.

BY GOD'S GRACE I DIDN'T

SHOOT DRUGS, BUT I WAS

SNORTING.

IT WAS $180 A DAY.

I HAD BLOWN THROUGH MONEY.

THE ADDICTION WAS

OVERWHELMING AT THE END.

AND MY UNBELIEVING

PARENTS, BY THE GRACE OF

GOD, TOOK ME BACK IN, AND

WELCOMED ME, SHOWED THE

LOVE OF CHRIST, EVEN AFTER

ROBBING THEM FOR $15,000

MONTHS EARLIER.

IT WAS THAT THAT STARTED

ME ON A ROAD TO RECOVERY.

Gordon: HOW HARD WAS

IT TO GET FREE OF?

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LORD

SET ME FREE THE SECOND

TIME -- AND IT DOESN'T

HAPPEN ALWAYS FOR PEOPLE

LIKE THIS OBVIOUSLY --

Gordon: WHAT DO YOU

MEAN THE SECOND TIME?

I WENT TO REHAB TWICE.

HERE'S WH WHAT I TELL PEOPLE,

THE REASON I WENT THROUGH

REHAB TWICE IS THE FIRST

TIME I DID IT WITHOUT

CHRIST.

YOU CAN EXPERIENCE

MOMENTARY SOBRIETY.

BUT WITHOUT CHRIST, IT IS

A DEAD-END STREET.

HERE IS WHY: WE NEED

SOMEONE TO SET US FREE

FROM THE BONDAGE OF SIN.

SO WHILE I WOULD HAVE

MOMENTARY LAPSES OF

SOBRIETY -- CHRIST OPENED

THE PRISON CELL I WAS IN

AND I WAS ABLE TO WALK

FREE.

YES, IT WAS HARD BECAUSE I

HAD A LOT OF HABITS,

HANG-UPS FROM THE PAST.

I'M AT CHURCH ONE SUNDAY,

AND A MAN NAMED DAVID

PLATT, THE PRESIDENT THE

MISSIONS BOARD -- HE WAS A

SEMINARY STUDENT.

AND HE COMES UP TO ME AND

SAYS, HEY, WOULD YOU WANT

TO MEET ONCE A WEEK TO

STUDY THE BIBLE AND

MEMORIZE SCRIPTURE AND

PRAY?

AND I SAID, DAVID, I WOULD

LOVE TO.

AND TWICE A WEEK WE MET.

WE PRAYED TOGETHER.

HE BAPTIZED ME.

HE STOOD AT MY WEDDING.

HE ENCOURAGED ME TO GO TO

SEMINARY.

HE ENCOURAGED ME TO GO

OVERSEAS WITH HIM.

I'M THE PRODUCT OF

DISCIPLESHIP.

HOW DIFFERENT WOULD MY

LIFE BE IF I WASN'T

DESIGNED BY DAVIDISCIPLED BY DAVID AND

OTHER PEOPLE?

AND THE GREAT QUESTION IS,

HOW DIFFERENT WOULD OUR

LIVES BE IF WE GOT SERIOUS

ABOUT INVESTING IN THE

LIVES OF OTHER PEOPLE.

Gordon: AND THAT'S

THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AND

MAKE DISCIPLES.

AND THAT'S THE KEY.

AND WITHOUT DISCIPLINE OF

DISCIPLESHIP, IT IS KIND

OF HARD.

YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE

OLD WAYS.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: LET'S TALK

ABOUT YOUR BOOK, "THE

FORGOTTEN JESUS," BECAUSE

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE

THINGS WE HAVE LOST IN THE

CHRISTIAN WORLD.

WE DON'T CELEBRATE THE

JEWISH FESTIVALS.

MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T KNOW

THE ORDER OF THE SADAR

SERVICE.

NO.

Gordon: LET'S PICK

OUT ONE OF THE FESTIVALS

THAT YOU POINT OUT, WHICH

IS THE FEAST OF

TABERNACLE.

WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT

TO YOU?

I TALK ABOUT THE FEAST

OF TABERNACLE IN TWO

PARTS.

THE FIRST IS WHEN JESUS

GETS UP AND SAYS, "OUT OF

ME WILL FLOW RIVERS OF

LIVING WATER."

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS

HAPPENING UP TO THAT

POINT, SEVEN DAYS -- IT IS

A FESTIVAL FOR RAIN.

THEY'RE PRAYING FOR GOD TO

SEND THE RAIN FOR THE

HARVEST.

IF GOD DOESN'T SEND THE

RAIN, THEY CAN'T TURN ON

THE WATER HOSE.

AND ON THE EIGHTH DAY, IT

SAYS IN JOHN 7, THE GREAT

DAY, JESUS, WHO HAD BEEN

KIND OF WAITING IN THE

DISTANCE, DECIDES HE IS

GOING TO STAND UP AND

SPEAK.

SO THE FIRST SEVEN DAYS

THE PRIEST WOULD GO DOWN

TO THE POOL OF SALOM, WITH

THE PROCESSION OF HUNDREDS

OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

THEY'RE ALL THERE.

AND HE WOULD SCOOP WATER

INTO THAT PITCHER, COME

BACK UP, HE WOULD HOLD IT

HIGH, AND PEOPLE WOULD GO

CRAZY.

THEY WOULD SAY, HOSANNA,

SAVE US.

THE PEOPLE WOULD BE QUIET,

AND HE WOULD POUR THE

WATER INTO THE FUNNEL.

THE PEOPLE WOULD GO CRAZY

BECAUSE GOD PROVIDED

WATER.

BUT ON THE LAST DAY IT WAS

DIFFERENT.

WHEN THE PRIEST WOULD COME

UP FROM THE POOL OF SALOM

HE WOULD WALK AROUND THE

ALTER SEVEN TIMES.

SYMBOLIC OF JOSH WAS

WALKING AROUND THE WALLS

OF JERICHO.

BUT WHEN HE WOULD HOLD THE

PITCHER UP, ALL OF THE

PEOPLE WOULD BE SILENT.

AND WHEN HE WOULD POUR THE

PITCHER, THERE WAS NO

WATER IN IT.

IT WAS A VISUAL

REALIZATION FOR THE PEOPLE

THAT IF THEY DON'T TRUST

IN GOD, HE IS NOT GOING TO

PROVIDE THE RAIN.

ON THAT DAY IS THE DAY

JESUS DECIDES IN GOD'S

INFINITE WISDOM, TO STAND

UP AND SHOUT.

PEOPLE ARE CHEERING,

THEY'RE SILENT.

HE HOLDS THE PITCHER UP,

HOSANNA, SILENCE, AND WHEN

HE HOLDS IT UP, NOTHING.

A RABBI IN THE GALLEY

SAYS, "IF ANYONE IS

THIRSTY, LET THEM COME TO

ME AND DRINK OUT OF HIS

HEART.

AND WILL FLOW RIVERS OF

RUNNING WATER."

FOR YEARS, I ALWAYS

THOUGHT JESUS INTERRUPTS

THE SERVICE, BUT HE

ACTUALLY INTERPRETS IT.

HE IS SAYING, YOU GUYS ARE

TRYING TO GET SATISFACTION

FROM WATER AND BREAD, AND

THAT WILL SATISFY YOU FOR

A SEASON, BUT I'M GOING TO

SATISFY YOU FOR ETERNITY.

IT IS A WONDERFUL PICTURE

OF HOW, I THINK, AS

WESTERN CHRISTIANS WE MISS

THE IMPACT OF THE BIBLE?

AND PEOPLE SAY, DO YOU

NEED TO KNOW THE EASTERN

CULTURE TO KNOW THE BIBLE?

YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE

EASTERN CULTURE --

Gordon: I WOULD SAY

YOU DO.

I WOULD SAY THAT, TOO,

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU GO

TOO HARD.

Gordon: YOU CAN'T

READ JOHN 7 WITHOUT THE

KNOWLEDGE.

I'M WITH YOU.

Gordon: YOU'RE GOING

TO BE LACKING IN

UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT THAT

BACKGROUND.

AND IN TODAY'S WORLD, WER

SEEING A WHOLE MOVE

AGAINST ORGANIZED

RELIGION, I'M SPIRITUAL,

BUT I DON'T WANT ORGANIZED

RELIGION, AND WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS WAS

THE CENTER PIECE OF

ORGANIZED RELIGION.

HE SAID, I AM THE

FULFILLMENT OF --

HE IS DRESSING LIKE A

JEWISH MAN.

HE IS DRESSED LIKE A MAN.

PEOPLE SAY, WELL, JESUS

BROKE THE COMMANDMENTS.

HE NEVER BROKE THE

COMMANDMENTS.

Gordon: NOT A ONE.

NOT A ONE, HIS WHOLE

LIFE.

HIS WHOLE LIFE.

PEOPLE SAY, WHY ARE THE

PHARISEES UPSET.

I SAY IN THE BOOK, HE IS

PURPOSELY BREAKING THE

ORAL LAW WHICH WAS SET AS

FENCES BY THE PHARISEES,

AND HE DID THIS ALL OF THE

TIME IN ORDER TO PROBE AND

PUSH.

HE'S GOT A GUY WITH MUD IN

HIS EYES WALKING, AND MUD

WAS PROHIBITED BY THE

PHARISEES.

THE MAN IS WALKING ON

SABBATH, AND THEY PUT

PARAMETERS ON HOW FAR YOU

CAN WALK.

JESUS DID IT PURPOSELY FOR

THE ORAL LAW, BUT HE NEVER

BROKE THE WRITTEN LAW.

JESUS IS A MAN, A JEWISH

MAN, JEWISH CULTURE,

PREDOMINANTLY JEWISH

FOLLOWERS, FOLLOWING

JEWISH CULTURES.

I THINK AS WESTERN

CHRISTIANS WE MISS THAT IF

WE BRING THIS LENS INTO AN

EASTERN BOOK.

I TELL PEOPLE, YOU CAN

READ THE BIBLE WITHOUT

UNDERSTANDING THIS, BUT IT

IS LIKE BLACK AND WHITE.

WHEN YOU AND I WATCH AN

OLD BLACK AND WHITE SHOW,

IT IS IMPACTFUL. BUT WHEN

THEY TOOK THE WIZARD OF OZ

AND TOOK IT FROM BLACK AND

WHITE AND MOVED IT TO

COLOR, IT IS THE SAME

MOVIE BUT IT HAS A

DIFFERENT FEEL.

IT MOVES THE BIBLE FROM

BEING READ IN BLACK AND

WHITE, THIS ONE KEY

ELEMENT WE'VE MISSED, TO

TECHNI COLOR.

IT IS A DIFFERENT FEEL

WHEN YOU READ THE BIBLE.

Gordon: LET'S TALK

ABOUT ANOTHER ONE, THE

SADAR SERVICE.

HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO

THE LAST SUPPER?

I THINK, AS YOU

PROBABLY BELIEVE, THE LAST

SUPPER IS A SADAR MEAL.

EVEN I HAVE PIECED

TOGETHER A SEATING

ARRANGEMENT BASED ON THE

LAST SUPPER.

AND I SHOW THIS PICTURE OF

THE LEONARDO DE VINCI

PAINTING.

WE CAN'T FAULT DE VINCI

BECAUSE THIS IS A MAN WHO

IS PAINTER.

HE IS NOT A THEOLOGIAN.

HE HAS THE DISCIPLES

FLANKED OUT ON ANOTHER

SIDE OF JESUS AT A LONG

BANQUET HALL.

IN THE BACKGROUND PICTURE

IS A BEAUTIFUL SUNSET, AND

ON THE TABLE IS A CERTAIN

MENU.

IT IS INCONSISTENT IN

THREE WAYS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE

PASSOVER TOOK PLACE AT

NIGHT, NOT IN THE DAY.

Gordon: AFTER THE SUN

WENT DOWN.

YEAH, AFTER THE SUN

WENT DOWN.

WE SEE IN THE BACKGROUND

THIS PAINTING WER WITH THIS

BEAUTIFUL SUNSET.

THIS IS AN ARID JERUSALEM

ENVIRONMENT.

VERY DIFFERENT.

SECONDLY, THE DISCIPLES

WOULD NOT HAVE SAT AT A

LONG BANQUET TABLE.

THEY WOULD HAVE SAT AT A

U-SHAPED TABLE.

THEIR FEET WOULD HAVE

PROTRUDED OUT TO THEIR

RIGHT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE

EATEN WITH THEIR RIGHT

HAND.

THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE OF

HOW JESUS AT THE LAST

SUPPER GETS UP FROM THE

MEAL -- PEOPLE THINK HE

WASHED THE FEET AT THE

BEGINNING OF THE MEAL.

HE DIDN'T DO THAT.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEAL,

JESUS STANDS UP AND HE

GRABS THE WATER BOWL.

AND I THOUGHT, HERE IS

JESUS GETTING UNDER THE

TABLE TRYING TO WASH FEET.

Gordon: THE FEET ARE

OUT TO THE SIDE.

THE FEET ARE OUT TO THE

SIDE.

AND THE FINAL ONE IS, THE

MENU.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE

PAINTING -- AND YOU CAN GO

ONLINE AND LOOK AT THE

PAINTING.

THE MENU CONSISTS IN

LEONARDO'S PAINTING OF

FISH.

AND I'M FROM NEW ORLEANS,

AND I LOVE A CATFISH

POBOY, BUT THE SADAR

CONSISTED OF UNLEVEN BREAD

AND A LAMB.

AND WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?

Gordon: AND IT HAD TO

BE TOTALLY CONSUMED.

YES.

AND SO WHY IS THAT

IMPORTANT?

BECAUSE IF WE ALLOW THESE

CULTURAL CONTEXT, THESE

TRADITIONS, TO IN FUSE OUR

UNDERSTANDING OF THE

BIBLE, WE CAN BRING THINGS

THAT ARE ALIEN TO THE

TEXT.

PARTICULARLY AS IT

PERTAINS TO THE PASSOVER.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

SISIGNATURES OF IT ARE THE

HALILS.

AND TO READ PSALM 18, TO

KNOW THAT WAS THE PSALM

THAT MATTHEW TALKS ABOUT,

AND THEY SANG A HYMN AND

THEY WENT OUT AND THEY

CROSSED OVER THE KIDRON

VALLEY AND WENT TO THE

GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE.

SO THE LAST SONG, THE LAST

HYMN THAT JESUS SANG WITH

HIS DISCIPLES WAS PSALM

118.

WHICH SAYS, "I WILL NOT

DIE BUT LIVE AND DECLARE

THE GLORY OF THE LORD.

THIS IS THE DAY THE LORD

HAS MADE.

I WILL REJOICE AND BE GLAD

IN IT.

OPEN THE GATES OF

SALVATION."

YOU READ PSALM 118 IN THAT

CONTEXT, AND IT IS

ABSOLUTELY THRILLING.

AND THE SADAR PROPHECYING

OF THE MESSIAH AND WHAT

THE MESSIAH WOULD DO.

AND HERE HE IS SAYING,

THIS IS MY BODY, BROKEN

FOR YOU.

WE CAN TALK A LONG TIME,

BUT WE'RE OUT OF TIME,

SO...THE BOOK IS CALLED,

"THE FORGOTTEN JESUS."

IT IS A JOURNEY BACK TO

BIBLICAL TIMES TO

REDISCOVER WHO JESUS

REALLY WAS.

IT IS AVAILABLE

NATIONWIDE.

GET A COPY AND GET

EDUCATED AS TO THE JEWISH

JESUS.

> HERE IS A VERSE FROM

MARK: "GO INTO ALL THE

WORLD AND PREACH THE

GOSPEL TO ALL CREATION."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.