Renown worship leader Darlene Zschech shares the reasons she left Hillsong and the lessons she learned from her battle with breast cancer.
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> THE FORMER PASTOR.
DARLENE REVEALS WHY SHE LEFT
THE MEGA
CHURCH. HER BATTLE WITH
CANCER.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS
--
HER QUESTION ABOUT GOD ON
TODAY'S
"700 CLUB" INTERACTIVE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
THIS IS ABOUT THE MARATHON.
ONE RUNNER, A VETERAN WHO
LOST HIS
LEG WHILE SERVING IN
AFGHANISTAN
PICKED UP HIS GUIDE AND
AMERICAN FLAG
AND CROSSED THE FINISH LINE.
FROM THE NATIONAL ARMY GUARD
HE
WALKED THE 22-MILE COURSE.
THIS WAS
NOT HIS ONLY MARATHON.
THE OTHER RUNNER, JOSE
LOUIS
SANCHEZ, A MARINE ALSO
CARRIED THE
FLAG AS HE COMPLETED THE
RACE ON HIS
PROSTHETIC LEG. THE SECOND
TIME SINCE
THE BOSTON MARATHON THAT HE
INSPIRED
OTHERS AND HE IS CERTAINLY
DOING THAT.
I'M INSPIRED AND
EXHAUSTED.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE
ON THE
MARATHON.
THAT'S BRUTAL, BUT
INSPIRATIONAL.
WE WANT TO GO FROM BOSTON
TO FLORIDA
AT CALVARY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY
IN FORT
LAUDERDALE OPENED THEIR
DOORS TO A
STUDENT.
HE WASN'T JUST GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE HERE TO
SCHOOL,
THIS FAMILY DECIDED TO ADOPT
HIM AND
THEIR SCHOOL BECAME THE
SCHOOL 'S
RISING BASKETBALL STAR UNTIL
THE DAY
HE WAS RUSHED TO THE
HOSPITAL.
I'M FROM NIGERIA.
MY BASKETBALL COACH.
THIS YEAR WE WON THE
CHAMPIONSHIP.
THIS YEAR I WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH BRAIN
CANCER. I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE
MOMENT I
HAD ANYTHING GOING ON WITH
MY HEAD.
I HAD A HEADACHE FOR DAYS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A HEADACHE
FROM
PRACTICE. BUT THEN I CAN'T
REMEMBER
WHAT HAPPENED.
THE NEXT THING I'M IN THE
HOSPITAL
AND MY DAD IS TELLING ME I
HAVE TO
HAVE BRAIN SURGERY THAT
NIGHT.
PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES AS
A
17-YEAR-OLD, WITH FEAR OF
DEATH WITH
FEAR AFTER DYING.
THAT THERE IS A PLACE TO GO
WHICH IS
HEAVEN OR THE OTHER WAY.
WHEN I WAS
CLOSE TO DYING, I CAN FEEL
IT. BUT I
REMEMBER JESUS SAYING, I'M
AM THE
RESURRECTION AND THE LIGHT.
IN THAT MOMENT, IF I DIE, I
KNEW
WHERE I'M GOING WHICH IS
WHERE GOD
PREPARED FOR HIS LOVELY
PEOPLE. BUT,
IF YOU DON'T KNOW,
UNDERSTAND THE
BIBLE I WILL JUST SAY, I CAN
SAY THAT
YOU CAN MISSING SOMETHING.
HE CREATED
LIFE ITSELF AND HE CAN HEAL
AND
RESURRECT ANYBODY.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS
SAID, I AM
THE RESURRECTION AND THE
LIGHT.
AFTER SURGERY, I COULDN'T
WALK, I
COULDN'T TALK.
I WAS SENSITIVE BUT I WOULD
NEVER
GIVE UP.
I WAS FOCUSED ON JESUS.
RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO THE
MRI, THE
DOCTOR SAYS I'M CANCER FREE
BUT I'M
GOING TO BE UNDER WATCH.
AS I LIVE MY LIFE NOW, I
HAVE A
REASON WHY I LIVE.
WHATEVER HE SAYS THAT'S WHAT
HE'S
GOING TO DO.
THAT'S GREAT.
WHATEVER HE SAYS, THAT IS
WHAT HE IS
GOING TO DO.
YOU WATCHED THOSE DUNK
SHOTS AND
HE SAYS I COULDN'T WALK AND
TALK.
WHAT A RECOVERY.
WE WANT TO THANK CALVARY
CHAPEL OF
FORT LAUDERDALE.
YOU DON'T LATCH ON TO THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS UNTIL
YOU ARE
FACING IT.
THERE IS NO
MISUNDERSTANDING UNTIL
YOU QUESTION WHERE IS MY
FAITH AND
YOU ARE STANDING ON A ROCK
AND THAT
IS JESUS.
SPEAKING OF ROCKS, THE
"OPERATION
BLESSING" TEAM WITH DEALING
WITH THE
BOMBING IN EGYPT THEY KILLED
41 ONE.
OB WAS THERE "OPERATION
BLESSING"
BRINGING HELP TO PEOPLE.
Terry: "OPERATION
BLESSING" WILL BE
PROVIDING FOOD FOR A MONTH
FOR THOSE
WHO ARE IN THE MOST DIRE
NEED.
THEY WILL BE BRINGING
SUPPLIES TO
THE PERSECUTION IN IRAQ.
"OPERATION BLESSING" WAS
IMMEDIATELY ON THE SCENE
HELPING TO
START THE FIRST IN THE CITY.
TAKE A LOOK.
Gordon: "OPERATION
BLESSING" IS
THERE HELPING PERSECUTED
CHRISTIANS
IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
WHETHER THAT'S THE VICTIMS
OF THIS
TERRIBLE BOMBING IN EGYPT OR
THOSE
WHO ARE TRYING TO RECOVER
THEIR
COMMUNITIES IN IRAQ AFTER
ISIS.
IF YOU WANT TO HELP THAT,
ALL YOU
HAVE TO DO IS CALL US.
TOLL-FREE PHONE NUMBER:
1-800-700-7000.
OR YOU CAN GO TO THE
"OPERATION
BLESSING" WEBSITE.
IT'S OB.ORG.
JUST SAY, YES, I WANT TO
HELP THE
PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS IN THE
MIDDLE
EAST.
I WANT TO HELP REBUILD
CHRISTIANS
COMMUNITIES IN IRAQ. IT'S
ALL MADE
POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE
LIKE YOU
CARE TO GIVE. CALL NOW. TO
BE FREE.
Terry: UP NEXT, DARLENE
CHECKS
AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT WHEN TEST CONFIRMED SHE
HAS
CANCER, HER FAITH WAS NEVER
TESTED
BEFORE.
THEY TOLD ME YOU HAVE
CANCER AND
IT TOOK ME DAYS TO ANSWER.
FIND OUT AS SHE EXPLAINS
WHY.
STAY WITH US.
WRITING
ON THE ANTHEM SUCH AS "SHOUT
TO THE
LORD" AND "WORTHY IS THE
LAMB" AND
THE NEW INSPIRATION FOR HER
NEW SONG.
KNOWN AS A WORSHIP LEADER
WHO
BRINGS PEOPLE STRAIGHT INTO
THE
PRESENCE OF GOD, DARLENE HAS
WRITTEN
OVER 100 SONGS SUNG BY
MILLIONS OF
WORSHIPERS WORLDWIDE.
THIS IS WHERE SHE'S
PERFORMED ON AND
PRODUCED ONE PLATINUM AND 16
GOLD
SELLING ALBUMS. A BEST
SELLING
AUTHOR, CANCER SURVIVOR AND
FROM HOPE
LIMITED CHURCH WITH HER
HUSBAND.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
THIS BUT
YOU LEFT 6 YEARS AGO. WHY?
IT WAS A SENSE OF
FRUSTRATION. IT
WAS NOT ANYTHING OR IN
ANYTHING, BUT,
YOU KNOW, I THINK GOD DOES
THAT
SOMETIMES WHEN HE WANTS TO
SHIFT YOU
OUT OF SOMETHING THAT IS
VERY
COMFORTABLE.
AND I COULDN'T REALLY PUT
WORDS
AROUND IT.
THEN MATT SAID TO ME
LITERALLY 1 DAY,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE AN
ADVENTURE?
I'M LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
YOU MEAN
FLYFISHING? I HAVE ALWAYS
WANTED TO
DO FLYFISHING. HE SAID,
THERE IS A
NEED FOR A PASTOR FOR A
CHURCH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? THE ONLY
THING WE
SAID WE NEVER WANTED TO BE
WAS SENIOR
PASTOR.
I SAID YES.
YOU STILL SING, I'M SURE.
I STILL SING.
I STILL DO WORSHIP WHICH I'M
SO GLAD.
YOU STILL WORSHIP AND
IT'S SO
REAL, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SO
EASY. I
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
BREAST
CANCER.
YES, I HAD BEEN GETTING
THIS LUMP
CHECKED FOR 2 YEARS AND THEY
SAID
IT'S JUST FATTY TISSUE AND
AT THAT
TIME I'M IN MY 40s AND I
SAID, WELL,
WELCOME TO THE 40s. IT'S
JUST FATTY
TISSUE. AND I WENT BACK AND
I FELT
THE NEED FOR A BIOPSY IS
TODAY. THE
BY THE TIME I LEFT THAT
NIGHT IT WAS
CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS BREAST
CANCER
AND THEN I WAS HAVING
SURGERY.
I HAD MY HAIR, MY WIG I CALL
BETTY.
WE HAD THE BETTY FAN CLUB
FOR A
WHILE, BUT I WOULD STILL
LEAD WORSHIP
BUT YOU BATTLE WITH SO MANY
OTHER
FACTORS THAT IT BECAME A
THING.
YOU WERE PERFECTLY
HEALTHY, SPENT
YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WORSHIPPING
GOD AND
SERVING OTHERS AND THIS
HAPPENED.
DID YOU QUESTION WHY?
YES, I DID.
THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG
WITH THAT
QUESTION.
THAT'S WHERE EARLY ON IN
MY
CHRISTIAN WALK PEOPLE SAID
TO ME,
NEVER QUESTION GOD, BUT
ACTUALLY I
JUST FOUND HIM TO BE SUCH A
GOOD
FATHER. HE'S SUCH A GOOD
FATHER AND
HE SUPPORTS ME IN AMAZING
WAYS THAT
I'M SURE I WOULD HAVE NEVER
LEARNED
SOME OF THESE THINGS. I
THOUGHT I
KNEW HOW MUCH HE LOVED ME
BUT 1 DAY
HE ASKED ME WHAT DO YOU
BELIEVE? AND
I'M LIKE, I BELIEVE THIS AND
THIS AND
THIS AND I'M A CHRISTIAN AND
KNOW ALL
MY ANSWERS.
BUT HE SAID NO, HOW MUCH DO
YOU
BELIEVE ABOUT HOW MUCH I
LOVE YOU?
IT TOOK ME DAYS TO ANSWER
BECAUSE I
FEEL IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
LOVE.
BUT HE'S OKAY, HE'S GOT BIG
SHOULDERS. HE'S OKAY WITHOUT
QUESTIONING, AND I THINK THE
BIGGER
THE QUESTION, THE BIGGER THE
ANSWER.
IT MAYBE LOSS, IT MAYBE
DISAPPOINTMENT.
SOMETIMES YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S
SILENCE
AND HOW CAN THIS BE LOVE.
SO I GOT BACK TO THE WORD.
IT UNDER PINS EVERYTHING. IF
YOU ARE
LISTENING, HE'S SPEAKING. I
THINK
SOMETIMES TROUBLE AND
INTENSE
HARDSHIP CAN MAKE US.
IT MADE ME AT TIMES BLOCK
OUR EARS,
SHUT OUR EYES.
IT'S LIKE TOO MUCH.
BUT HE'S SPEAKING,
ENCOURAGING US,
LOVING US ALL THE TIME.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THOUGH
BEING IN
WORSHIP THROUGH SONG AND
WITH MUSIC
GATHERS ALL OF WHO YOU ARE
AND
HELPING YOU SCIENTIFICALLY
ON A SORT
OF MOLECULAR LEVEL AND
DECLARING THE
WORD OF GOD, THERE IS
NOTHING QUITE
LIKE IT WHEN YOU ARE HANGING
ON FOR
YOUR DEAR LIFE.
DARLENE, TELL US HOW YOU
ARE
FEELING NOW?
I FEEL GOOD. I TAKE A
PILL NOW AND
I'M GOING AND I HAVE A FEW
MORE
YEARS. HALLELUJAH! I'M
CANCER FREE. I
LIVE DIFFERENTLY. I REFUSE
TO LIVE
BUSY. I LIVE VERY
INTENTIONALLY.
I DON'T TRAVEL LIKE I USED
TO.
I EAT DIFFERENTLY.
I PARENT DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT I LEARNED NOW I WISHED
I LEARNED
THEM A LONG TIME AGO.
I'M MORE THANKFUL FOR TODAY.
IT'S HER THANKFULNESS AND
FAITHFULNESS THAT STARTED
HER ON THIS
BATTLE FOR CANCER.
THIS MESSAGE FOR ME HAS
BEEN
EVERYDAY, LORD, TEACH ME TO
SAY.
NO MATTER HOW UNCOMFORTABLE
IT IS.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT
THROUGH MY
LENS.
IT'S JUST HIS WILL.
Terry: A LOT OF WISDOM TO
GLEAM
WHAT SHE'S BEEN THROUGH AND
SHARED SO
VULNERABLY.
UP NEXT, A MAN IN PAIN.
IT WAS LIKE EACH STEP
WHERE IT GOT
TO A POINT WHERE I COULDN'T
DRIVE
LONG DISTANCES AND EVEN
STANDING WAS
PAINFUL, SITTING WAS PAINFUL.
SEE HOW THIS HORSE LOVER
GETS ON
THE SADDLE PAIN FREE.
Gordon: ON MAY 23, CBN IS
GOING TO
BE RELEASING THIS WONDERFUL
FILM. IN
OUR HAND, THE BATTLE FOR THE
SOLUTION. THAT'S TOLD FROM
THE POINT
OF VIEW OF THE PARA TROOPERS
THAT
WENT TO THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE
HEADLINES
UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THIS
TRUTH WHAT
HAPPENED IN 1957. THE
SIGNIFICANCE
FOR THE PARA TROOPERS AND
THE
SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE WORLD.
WE WANT TO CELEBRATE IN
STYLE. WE ARE
RELEASING THIS FILM ON MAY
23, WHICH
ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR IS
DAY.
ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR IT'S
MAY 23.
WE WANT TO CELEBRATE WITH
THEM. TO BE
A PART OF IT, GO TO OUR
WEBSITE "IN
OUR HANDS 1967.COM AND PUT
IN THE ZIP
CODE AND IT WILL SHOW THE
AREA THE
THEATRE IS PLAYING.
THAT WONDERFUL PSALM 126
THAT WHEN
THE LORD RESTORES ZION, THE
NATIONS
WILL SAY THE LORD HAS DONE
GREAT
THINGS FOR THEM. IF YOU WANT
TO
ATTEND, WANT TO SEE IT, GO
TO OUR
WEBSITE" IN OUR HANDS
1967.COM.
DO IT TODAY.
IF WE GET THAT, WE'LL HAVE
MORE SHOW
DATES AND GET THE WORD OUT.
DO IT.
GO TO IN OUR HANDS 1967.COM.
WELL, JOSEPH HAS SPENT A
LIFETIME
TRAINING HORSES BUT HE
THOUGHT IT
WOULD BE OVER AFTER A BATTLE
THREATENED HIM FOR GOOD
UNTIL HIS
WIFE TURNED ON THE "700
CLUB".
JESSIE AVILA HAS TRAINING
HORSES
FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND 1 DAY
HE WAS AT
THE STALLS.
WHEN I LIFT UP I FELT A
BIG POP ON
MY LOWER BACK.
WHEN HE GOT HOME HE TOLD
HIS WIFE
CHARMAINE.
I LOOKED AT HIS BACK AND
IT WAS
SWOLLEN.
I WENT TO THE DOCTOR AND
HE GAVE
ME AN EXAMINATION AND SAID
YOU REALLY
HURT YOUR MUSCLE AND MAY
HAVE A
PINCHED NERVES.
HE SAID WE NEED TO LOOK
AT THIS
FURTHER.
THEN HE WAS IN MORE PAIN.
IT FELT LIKE THE BACK OF
MY THIGH,
WITH EACH STEP IT WAS
PAINFUL.
JESSIE WENT BACK AND
READY FOR
SURGERY.
THAT WAS DIFFICULT
BECAUSE I WAS
NOT ONLY NOT ABLE TO ENJOY
RIDING
WHICH I HAVE DONE FOR THE
LAST 30
YEARS, BUT I WAS STRUGGLING
FOR MY
MORTALITY.
CHARMAINE WAS PRAYING FOR
HER
HUSBAND.
I WAS PRAYING HE WOULD
GET BETTER.
THEN 1 DAY SHE'S WATCHING
THE "700
CLUB".
I'M NOT SURE I BELIEVE
THAT PEOPLE
GET THESE KIND OF HEALINGS,
BUT WHAT
DO I HAVE TO LOSE OTHER THAN
GIVEN IT
A TRY.
SOMEONE HAS A PINCHED
NERVE, GOD
IS HEALING IT.
THERE IS NUMBNESS, THERE IS
PAIN,
WEAKNESS AND GOD IS
RESTORING ALL OF
THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
IT WAS REALLY ONE OF
THOSE CALMING
KIND OF THING THAT CAME OVER
ME THAT
READY MADE ME FEEL REALLY
GOOD AND
WARM AND JUST FOR THE FIRST
TIME
RELIEVED. .
HE DID NOT IMMEDIATELY
SHARE WITH
ME AND THEN WHEN HE DID
SHARE WITH
ME, I SAID HALLELUJAH! YOU
ARE HEALED.
CANCEL YOUR SURGERY.
I FELT IT WAS GOING TO
COME BACK.
I TOLD THEM I DON'T THINK
HE NEEDS
THE SURGERY.
I GUARANTEE HE'S NOT
GOING TO BE
HEALED LIKE THAT, THROUGH
TREATMENTS
LIKE THIS. WHEN THE DOCTOR
CAME IN,
HE BEGAN TO EXAMINE HIM AND
DID THE
TEST AND LOOKED AT HIM AND
SAID, WHY
ARE YOU HAVING SURGERY TODAY
AND I
CLAPPED MY HANDS LIKE THIS
BECAUSE
THAT WAS CONFIRMATION TO
HIM.
ONCE THE DOCTOR SAID YOU
DON'T
NEED SURGERY, THAT WAS MY
BLESSING
AND SAYING I AM HEALED.
TODAY HE IS STILL RIDING.
I HAVE TO SAY GOD, NOW,
WE HAVE TO
WAIT FOR GOD'S TIMING.
Gordon: I LOVE THIS WHEN
HE SAID
WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE?
WHAT DO YOU
HAVE TO LOSE? BECAUSE IN AN
ACT OF
FAITH BECAUSE FAITH IS VERY
SIMPLE.
YOU CAN BE LIKE A LITTLE
CHILD. YOU
DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT
ALL. YOU
JUST HAVE TO ACT.
THERE IS A PROMISE THAT GOD
WILL
STRETCH FORTH HIS HANDS.
DO WHAT JESSIE DID.
LAY A HAND IN THAT AREA ON
YOUR BODY
THAT NEEDS HEALING AND TERRY
AND I
WILL PRAY TO GOD.
LORD, WE LIFT THE NEEDS
RIGHT NOW AND
AS PEOPLE ARE PRAYING IN AN
AREA OF
THE BODY THAT NEEDS HEALING,
WE SAY
IT OUT LOUD TO YOU, BE
HEALED AND BE
MADE WHOLE IN JESUS' NAME.
Terry: SOMEBODY, YOU
EITHER HAVE OR
HAVE HAD A RUPTURED EAR DROM
-- DRUM
AND THE LORD IS COMPLETELY
RESTORING
IT NOW.
RECEIVE IT IN IN THE JESUS'
NAME.
SOMEONE I SEE WITH A HEAD
BRACE
AND GOD IS HEALING YOU.
HE IS ANSWERING IT RIGHT NOW
IN
JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
WE ARE HERE TO PRAY FOR
YOU.
IT'S OUR HONOR TO PRAY FOR
YOU. CALL
US RIGHT NOW.
TOLL-FREE PHONE NUMBER:
1-800-700-7000.
THE WONDERFUL WORD FROM
JAMES.
THE EFFECTIVE PRAYER OF A
RIGHT MAN.
GOD BLESS YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU
THEN.