Actor, author and speaker T.C. Stallings shares how to remain committed to the faith and truly play on ‘God’s Team.'
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REPORTER: You may remember TC
Stallings' breakout performance
as Tony Jordan in the 2015
faith-based film "War Room."
But before he found success
in Hollywood as an actor,
TC was a professional
athlete who
understood the importance of
following the coach's gameplan.
In his latest book,
"Playing on God's Team,"
TC offers 21 lessons to help
build up your spiritual game
so you can play your
best on a winning team.
Well, TC is here, and
let's get right into it.
You know from firsthand.
You've played for the
Louisville Cardinals.
Right.
And that's
serious, prime-time--
Yeah.
No cards.
No cards.
--you know, college football.
Yeah.
You tried to make
it into the NFL.
You just kept going and going
and going and going and going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
College football,
four years there,
then went to the arena league.
And then I went on to play
in Canada for the Stampeders,
went to Europe and played
for the Bergamo Lions.
And it was just this process
of pursuing my childhood
dream of going to the NFL.
And God had another plan.
He did.
He did.
And you know-- and
you know, that's
what the book talks about,
is the lesson that I learned,
was that He needed to be Lord
so that I'd accept that plan.
I mean, He needs to lead my
passions, lead my desires.
And you know, when I went to
see "Fireproofed" in 2008,
all of a sudden, my heart's
beating to do acting and impact
people through film.
And, you know, I
got to the point
to where I pray about what I
do now through the situations
that I had been
through in college
and learning to put God first.
And I said, man, let's start
praying about, you know,
working with the guys
who made this film.
Who made this film?
They said the Kendrick brothers.
I said, well, let's start
praying about meeting
the Kendrick brothers.
About a year and a
half or so later,
I meet the Kendrick
brothers, and I
get a role in their
big film "Courageous."
And off I went.
Yeah, well, there you go.
Why is it so hard for
us to change, though?
We all read the scripture.
If we put Him first,
then He's going
to give us our heart desire.
TC STALLINGS: Yeah.
But we don't understand in
all of that He might actually
change our heart's desire to
be what his desire is for us,
knowing that that
will fulfill us.
Yeah.
I think the hardest
part about changing
is that we don't understand
that thing that I just
said two seconds ago about him
being Lord as well as Savior.
See, a lot of people,
they become Christians,
and then they think
that's the finish line.
But that's really
just the start.
The only thing that's
done is the old life
that you used to live.
Now the new life to
Him needs to start.
And so the reason I use the team
concept is because, you know,
when I joined a
team, they started
to change you in a way to make
you a more effective player.
You know, when I
was in high school,
there were some changes
that needed be made
to get me ready for college.
You know, when you go from
your own life to becoming
this new believer in
Jesus, it's like, OK,
there's some changes
we need to make.
Your goals, your dreams,
your desires, those are done.
You replace that with mine.
You gotta trade them in.
And not realizing that he needs
to be a Lord of our decisions
and what we do,
we still think we
can go on just believing
in him and then
keep doing the same
things we've been doing.
GORDON ROBERTSON: I've got this.
Yeah.
And that doesn't work.
And it takes a lot of that not
working for you to find out
what will work.
You had a really profound
moment in college--
Yeah.
--where you realized that,
yes, you're a Christian,
but at the same
time, you weren't.
Yup.
Yup.
You know, that,
yes, you believed,
you believed in Him as Savior.
You understood the Bible.
You understood the
concept of salvation.
But you still hadn't
made Him everything.
Right.
He wasn't Lord.
GORDON ROBERTSON:
What happened to you?
So I go to college with this--
again, the standard for being
a Christian was already--
is already too low.
You know, people think if
you carry your Bible around
and you pray a little bit, then
you're this big-time Christian.
GORDON ROBERTSON: [LAUGHING]
So--
GORDON ROBERTSON: I've
got my hell insurance.
[LAUGHING]
Yeah, you know, that's it.
And so it was easy for people
to put you up on this pedestal
and, you know, hey,
you need somebody
to come speak somewhere
for the football
team, good Christian
athlete, go get me.
Go get TC.
And so, you know, you're living
this way, living this way,
living this way.
But somebody on campus who
really knew what it truly
meant to follow
Jesus Christ asked
to study the scripture with
me, and I wondered why.
Kept putting him off.
Finally, we did.
And after seeing what scripture
said, you know, James 2:19,
it's not enough to believe.
Even the demons believe.
Matthew 7:21, not everybody
who calls out to me
and says my name will enter
the kingdom of heaven.
Realizing that there was a
possibility that this could
be me as I looked at scripture
and saw all my mistakes
and [INAUDIBLE]
being opened up, I
knew I had to change
at that point.
And so that was the revelation
for me that changed everything.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
I've been living all
this time with Jesus just
being the Savior, somebody I
say, hey, I believe in You,
so see You when I die, or
see You when You come back,
and thinking that's it.
Whereas like no,
I'm your Savior,
but I also need to
be the Lord, and you
gotta follow my son Jesus
Christ and his plans.
And I hadn't traded
in my goals for his.
It was all about me and, hey,
Lord, come with me, as opposed
to, Lord, where are you going?
And I'm following.
And that was the big change
that happened in college.
God's on my side, as
opposed to I'm on His side.
Right.
[LAUGHING] And it's
a different approach.
Why was this person
pursuing you?
Well, because, you
know, again, he--
he knew what it truly meant
to be a Christ follower.
And so I'm on TV every weekend.
I was a starter on
the football team.
And he'd see me speaking
at all these different FCA
events and all these
different things,
but yet that same day, I might
go home, and in the dorm room,
you know, you can hear
all the cussing movies
coming out of my TV.
You can hear the
cussing music coming out
of my stereo system in my car.
You would see me taking
girls to my room at night.
And I'm thinking
that the Lord doesn't
care about these things.
It's just all about my
belief, and that's it.
I don't need to
change anything else.
He would see these
things, and when we met,
I'll never forget
him saying this
at the end of the Bible study.
He said, the reason
I pursued you
is because if people knew what
the Bible truly says about what
it means to follow Christ,
they'd see you as a hypocrite,
and you'd kill your platform.
And I just don't want
to see you do that.
If you really knew
what it means,
then, you know, you can
start living the way
that He would need you to be
so you can be a true Christ
follower.
And I just don't want you
to ruin your platform.
So that's why I wanted you
to see these scriptures
and remind you of what
Christ died for so that you
can properly represent Him.
And so that was it.
And so that was his-- he
knew I had a platform,
and he didn't want
me to mess it up.
And so I-- I'm so grateful
that it happened, because it
changed everything for me.
What would you say to people
that would say it's too hard?
You know, I tried.
I tried to be good.
And then I keep messing up.
What would you say to that?
Yeah, that's the
second purpose of me even
writing this whole
thing, is at first,
you realize what it truly means.
And then I start trying
to do that in college.
I tried everything.
And I failed miserably.
Now I'm upset.
I'm upset with God.
I'm like, man, I just
studied these scriptures
where it talks about all this
power I'm supposed to have.
Well, I'm not
experiencing any of that.
I feel like I lust more now.
I feel like I'm
frustrated more now.
And here I am really,
really trying.
So what's going on?
Where you at?
Where's this power?
And then so I was
ready to give up.
But then I read 1
Corinthians 9:24-27,
where you see Paul compare
the effort of an athlete
to the effort of a Christian.
And he says, they do it for
a crowd that won't last,
but we do it for a crown
that will last forever,
talking about the
strict training.
And I realized I was
the "they" and the "we."
I was the Christian
and the athlete.
So I looked at my effort as an
athlete when things got tough.
And man, I would do everything
my coach said to get better.
If I found out I
was weak in an area,
I'd do everything to strengthen
in the strength-training room.
If I found out I was lacking
in endurance in an area,
I would do everything I
can to get my endurance up.
I knew my play book.
And I looked at that.
Then I looked at Team
Jesus, me as a Christian.
And I didn't do everything
my coach said, Jesus Christ.
I didn't know my play
book, which is the Bible.
I didn't know it like I
knew that other play book.
I didn't, you know,
strength train in the areas
that I was weak in my faith.
I gave no effort.
And I grew up with
this belief that grace
takes care of everything.
Well, grace puts
you on Team Jesus.
Grace is how you got saved.
But what you do reflects your
appreciation for that grace.
And I learned all of that.
And so that was a
comparison that I made.
And so I would say for
anybody who is struggling,
look at your life.
Look at anything you ever
really wanted in your life
and how hard you worked
for it doing your part.
You know, and compare that
to your effort towards Jesus.
Do you know your play book?
Do you pray regularly
and talk to your coach?
Do you strength train
the way the Bible
says we can get strong?
Do you endurance train
the way the Bible
says we can endurance?
And if you're not
doing these things,
that explains why you're
failing as a Christian.
And that's what I learned.
And I didn't fail as an athlete.
It's like showing
up on game day
and not being at any
of the practices.
Right.
And not talking to the
coach, ignoring the plays,
not doing the weight-lifting.
And of course
you're going to lose.
Exactly.
And it's no different.
Why should it be any
different with Team Jesus?
It's not.
All right.
Well, if you want this, it's
"Playing on God's Team."
And it will give you
a wonderful guideline.
It's a 21-week
devotional for building
Christian-- true
Christian athletes.
And it's available
wherever books are sold.
And if you're struggling
in the battle,
here's a great thing that will
really train you and really
get you in the game.
Or not you're going
to just be in.
You'll be winning the game.
And wouldn't that be great?
And that's a crown
worth fighting for.
Yes, it is.
That's good.
All right, thanks
for being with us.
Thank you.
Appreciate.