As culture becomes hostile to Christians, David Kinnaman shares how we can bring faith into conversations.
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Gordon: CULTURAL
WAVES SEEM TO BE SHIFTING.
IF YOU BELIEVE YOU
SHOULD SHARE YOUR FAITH
WITH SOMEONE, THAT IS
VIEWED BY 60% OF AMERICANS
TO BE EXTREMISTS.
Gordon: SOCIETY SAYS
CHRISTIANS ARE THE
PROBLEM.
THERE ARE SOME
CHALLENGING REALITIES WE
HAVE TO ADDRESS.
Gordon: WHAT WILL THE
FUTURE LOOK LIKE?
IF WE DON'T RISE TO THE
OCCASION, IN 10 YEARS IT
WILL BE A DIFFERENT KIND
OF CHURCH.
Gordon: WHY
RESEARCHERS SAY GOOD FAITH
IS THE SOLUTION.
ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE."
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
FORLY MILLIONS OFOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO
GREW UP IN CHURCH,
CHRISTIANITY HAS BECOME
BACKGROUND NOISE AND THIS
NOISE CAN BE SAFELY
IGNORED.
THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY
DENYING GOD, AND YET THEY
FIND CHRISTIANS
IRRELEVANT.
Terry: AND ANOTHER
GROUP OF AMERICANS THINK
CHRISTIANS ARE NOT JUST
IRRELEVANT, BUT THEY'RE
EXTREMIST.
THAT HAS MANY OF US ASKING
HOW CAN CHRISTIANS BE A
FORCE IN THE WORLD THAT IS
INCREASINGLY HOSTILE TO
OUR FAITH.
Reporter: THESE
PEOPLE SEEMED TO BE
EXTREMISTS, THE PARIS AND
BRUSSELS ATTACKERS, THE
BOSTON MARATHON BOMBERS.
TODAY, HOWEVER, IT IS
THESE PEOPLE THAT
INCREASING WEAR THAT
LABEL.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS
IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN?
YOU'RE AN EXTREMIST.
HAVE YOU EVER PRAYED FOR
SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW?
EXTREMIST.
BELIEVE THAT MARRIAGE IS
MEANT TO BE BETWEEN ONE
MAN AND ONE WOMAN?
EXTREMIST.
MANY PEOPLE OF FAITH ARE
FINDING IT HARDER THAN
EVER TO LIVE OUT THEIR
CONVICTIONS.
THEY FEEL THAT RELIGION IS
BEING PUSHED TO THE
MARGINS.
DAVID KINNAMIN AND DAVE
LIONS SAY DON'T DISPAIR.
THEY SHOW YOU HOW IN A NEW
BOOK, "BEING A CHRISTIAN
WHEN SOCIETY THINKS YOUR
IRRELEVANT AND EXTREME."
Gordon: DAVID
KINNAMIN JOINS US NOW.
AND HE IS THE CO-AUTHOR OF
"GOOD FAITH."
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
Gordon: WHY HAS
AMERICAN CULTURE BECOME
HOS TAIL THOSTILE TO CHRISTIANS?
I THINK THE NEW
RELIGION IS THIS SORT OF
VACUUM AT THE CENTER.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY
RELIGION AT ALL DOMINATING
THE AIRWAVES.
Gordon: SO LET'S
CHECK NONE.
LET'S HAVE NO RELIGION.
THE FASTEST GROWING IS THE
RELIGIOUSLY UNAFFILIATED.
THEY'RE LIKE, CHRISTIANITY
HAS HAD ITS TIME, AND
LET'S PUSH IT TO THE
MARGINS.
42% OF AMERICANS SAY THAT
PEOPLE OF FAITH ARE
ACTUALLY PART OF THE
PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IN
OUR CULTURE TODAY.
AND SO LET'S SIDE LINE
THEM, LET'S MARGINALIZE
THEM.
IN THE PAST, THE PROBLEM
OF IRRELEVANCE WAS FAITH
WASN'T THAT RELEVANT -- A
PERSON COULD HAVE BEEN A
LIFE-LONG GOER OF CHURCH,
BUT THEY DON'T GO ANYMORE.
IF YOU CAN PUT IT TO THE
SIDE, YOU CAN TRY TO
LEGISLATE AROUND IT.
Gordon: AND YOU CAN
ALSO LEGISLATE AGAINST IT,
AND THAT ACTUALLY CONCERNS
ME.
EXACTLY.
Gordon: AND ONE OF MY
CONCERNS IS THAT IT SEEMS
TO BE TARGETED
SPECIFICALLY AT
CHRISTIANITY.
IF YOU JUST TAKE CHRISTIAN
OUT OF WHATEVER STATEMENT
IS BEING MADE AND INSERT
MUSLIM, THAT WOULD THEN BE
ATTACKED, THAT YOU'RE
GOING AFTER ISLAM.
AND THAT'S NOT PROPER, OR
BUDDHISTS -- OR NAME ANY
OTHER RELIGION.
IT JUST SEEMS TO BE OKAY
TO TRASH CHRISTIANITY, BUT
IT'S NOT OKAY TO GO AFTER
THESE OTHER RELIGIONS.
I'VE BEEN AT BARNA
GROUP NOW FOR 21 YEARS,
AND THE VERY FIRST PRESS
RELEASE THAT I WROTE WAS
CHRISTIANITY HAS A STRONG
POSITIVE IMAGE, DESPITE
FEWER ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS.
YOUR MEMORY FOR THESE
EARLY THINGS THAT YOU DO
IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL LIFE.
AND.
Congressman: CHRISTIANITY HAD A
STRONG POSITIVE IMAGE.
WE INTERVIEWED LIKE A
MILLION INTERVIEWS OVER
THE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN AT
BARNA, AND IT IS AN
AMAZING COMPANY, AND PART
OF THE REASON I WROTE THIS
BOOK IS BECAUSE I'M
ACTUALLY REALLY SURPRISED
AT THE SPEED WITH WHICH
CHRISTIANITY'S IMAGE HAS
CHANGED.
AND NOT JUST THAT WE CAN
IGNORE IT BECAUSE, BEEN
THERE, DONE THAT, BUT THE
DEGREE TO WHICH
CHRISTIANITY IS BEING
SIDELINED, IT IS THE
ACTIVE SORT OF
MARGINALIZATION OF
CHRISTIANS AND THIS IDEA
WE'RE SOCIAL EXTREMISTS.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO
SHARE YOUR FAITH, 60% OF
AMERICANS WOULD SAY THAT
IS EXTREMIST, OR IF YOU
WERE TRYING TO PRAY FOR A
STRANGER.
WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE
CHRISTIANS PERMISSION TO
BE IRRELEVANT AND EXTREME
AS CHRIST CALLS US TO BE.
Gordon: I WANT TO GET
BACK TO THE POINT, WHY THE
DOUBLE STANDARD?
BECAUSE THERE DOES SEEM TO
BE A DOUBLE STANDARD.
JUST ANYONE WHO STANDS UP
TO SAY, WHAT ISLAM IS
DOING TO WOMEN IN SAUDI
ARABIA IS WRONG.
IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, I
THINK YOU WOULD BE
LABELLED EXTREMIST BY
MAKING THAT STATEMENT.
EVEN THOUGH THE VERY FACTS
ON THE GROUND IN SAUDI
ARABIA -- YOU CAN'T VOTE,
YOU CAN'T DRIVE.
AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
THINGS WOMEN CAN'T DO IN
THAT CULTURE.
WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD?
I THINK WE'RE LIVING IN
AN ERA WHEN THE MEDIA SORT
OF DOMINATES THE WAY
STORIES ARE BEING TOLD.
AND THIS GENERATION DIDN'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND THE WAY
IN WHICH SORT OF THESE
REALITIES OCCUR.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS,
OUR SPIRITUAL SIDE TO OUR
WORLD -- OUR ADVERSARY
CAN'T CREATE ANYTHING.
HE CAN ONLY DECEIVE
PEOPLE.
HE CAN ONLY DISTORT
THINGS.
IT FEELS LIKE THERE IS
TONS OF DISTORTIONS THAT
ARE ENTERING INTO OUR
EQUATION.
89% SAY YOU SHOULDN'T
CRITICIZE SOMEONE ELSE'S
LIFE CHOICES.
I THINK THE DOUBLE
STANDARD IS SUCH THAT
WE'RE LIVING IN A
SPIRITUALLY CONTENTIOUS
TIME, AS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE
ALWAYS DONE, BUT IT IS
BEING FOCUSED NOW ON
CHRISTIANITY IN NORTH
AMERICA BECAUSE WE HAVE
HAD A LOT OF CULTURAL
POWER.
AND THAT POWER IS NOW
SLIPPING AWAY.
AND SO THE GOVERNMENT AND
OTHER KINDS OF FORCES OF
POWER, EVEN SOCIAL MEDIA,
AND THE WAY THE NEXT
GENERATION VIEWS
CHRISTIANITY, IT IS
CHANGING THE POWER.
IT IS CHANGING THE WAY
CHRISTIANS HAVE EXERCISED
POWER.
Gordon: ALL RIGHT.
I'M ACTUALLY THINKING
THERE IS A NEW TERM
ARRIVING, THAT ORTHODOX
CHRISTIANITY -- AND I
NEVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD
EVER COME OUT OF ME -- YOU
ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE
BIBLE.
AND IF YOU'RE ORTHODOX IN
YOUR BELIEFS, IS THERE --
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE
TEMPTATION TO SORT OF HUN
HUNKER DOWN AND PULL BACK
AND SAY, IF THE CULTURE IS
GOING TO GO THIS WAY, LET
THEM GO, AND WE'RE JUST
GOING TO GO TO THE
MOUNTAIN OR TRY TO FIND
SOME HIDDEN VALLEY TO
DWELL IN.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT?
I THINK CERTAINLY THIS
IDEA OF BEING SEPARATE
FROM THE WORLD.
SOME CHRISTIAN
COMMUNITIES, THE AMISH
COME TO MIND, HAVE CHOSEN
THAT PATH.
THAT IS ONE PATH TO
FAITHFUL LIVING IN THE
WORLD TODAY, IS TO BE
SEPARATE FROM THE WORLD.
FOR MOST OF US AS
BELIEVERS, IN TODAY'S
CITIES AND IN CONTEXT,
THAT IS NOT REALLY THE
OPTION WE'RE LIKELY TO
CHOOSE.
WE THINK THERE IS A WAY TO
BE FAITHFUL, TO BE
ORTHODOX, TO HOLD TO THESE
HISTORIC TRUTHS.
WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT SO
MANY OF THESE THINGS WILL
TURN OUT TO BE A DEAD END
FOR TODAY'S CULTURE, THE
IDEAS ABOUT SEX AND
SEXUALITY, THE IDEA ABOUT
HOW IT IS WE LIVE AS
FLOURISHING HUMAN BEINGS,
AND THAT THESE ALL NEED TO
BE RETHOUGHT.
AND ALL MILLENNIALS ARE
WAITING FOR THESE DEEPER
ANSWERS, THESE ORTHODOX
ANSWERS.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THE
CULTURE IS GOING TO WAKE
UP, AND ACTUALLY, WE'VE
BEEN HERE BEFORE AS A
SPECIES.
AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
LOOK AT GREEK HISTORY, AND
ROMAN HISTORY, AND YOU'LL
FIND THIS KIND OF PLEASURE
SEEKING, AND CHRISTIANITY
ACTUALLY SURVIVED, AND NOT
ONLY SURVIVED, BUT THRIVED
AND THEN BECAME THE
DOMINANT THOUGHT OF LET'S
NOT DO THAT.
LET'S NOT GIVE INTO THAT.
LET'S LIVE A RIGHTEOUS AND
HOLY LIFE.
IT IS HARD TO PREDICT
BASED ON THE TRENDS, WHEN
PEOPLE WILL WAKE UP TO
THAT.
THERE CAN BE ECONOMIC
CRISIS OR HEALTH CRISIS OR
OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.
WE SEE THAT PEOPLE
INDIVIDUALLY WAKE UP TO
THOSE THINGS, THAT
SPIRITUAL TRANSFORMATION
HAPPENS EVERY DAY ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
IN INDIVIDUAL LIVES.
MAYBE NOT CULTURAL-WIDE.
THAT'S WHAT EACH FAMILY
AND CHURCH LEADER AND
CHRISTIAN COULD ASPIRE TO.
WE'RE NOT CALLED TO CHANGE
THE WHOLE CULTURE, BUT WE
ARE CALLED TO BE IN THE
INDIVIDUAL RELATIONS THAT
GOD CALLED US TO BE IN.
WHAT KIND OF CHURCH WILL
WE HAVE IN 100 YEARS?
HOW CAN WE BUILD MEDIA
COMPANIES AND SCHOOLS AND
COLLEGES AND STRUCTURES
THAT CAN LAST IN THIS NEW
KIND OF EXILE-TYPE
EXPERIENCE.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE
MAJORITY ANYMORE.
HOW DO WE LIVE IN A
RELIGIOUSLY PLURAL
CULTURE.
I THINK DANIEL IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT IS A GREAT
EXAMPLE WHO GIVES US
FAITHFULNESS UNDER
PRESSURE, AND SERVES AS
SECRETARYCSECRETARY OF STATE UNDER
THREE DIFFERENT REGIMES,
BUT HE IS FAITHFUL TO
YAHWEH.
I THINK THIS FAITHFULNESS,
BEING COUNTER-CULTURAL,
AND SERVING THE NEEDS OF
OUR COMMUNITIES, BUILDING
GREAT BUSINESSES, BEING
THE VERY BEST NEIGHBORS,
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT COULD DEFINE
US IN THIS ERA OF
SKEPTICISM.
Gordon: IN IS A
GOODPOINT.
THE CHURCH IN 100 YEARS IN
AMERICA WILL LIKELY BE
HISPANIC.
THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE
PRETTY UNAVOIDABLE.
AND THERE ARE
INCREDIBLE SIGNS OF GROWTH
AMONG CATHOLIC HISPANICS,
AS WELL AS AMONG CATHOLIC
HISPANICS CONVERTING TO
PROTESTANTISM.
THE HISPANIC CHRISTIAN
FUTURE IN AMERICA IS
REALLY GROWING.
Gordon: THE BOOK,
"GOOD FAITH, BEING A
CHRISTIAN WHEN SOCIETY
THINKS YOUR IRRELEVANT AND
EXTREME," AND DAVID HAS
PUT TOGETHER A WONDERFUL
BOOK.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET IT.
IT IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER
BOOKS ARE BEING SOLD.
WE WANT TO KEEP THIS
CONVERSATION GOING, SO
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
SHOW TODAY, SOME OF OUR
PRODUCERS WILL BE GOING
LIVE ON Facebook, AND
THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU
ON THIS QUESTION: HOW CAN
WE BE EFFECTIVE CHRISTIANS
WHEN SOCIETY THINKS WE'RE
IRRELEVANT OR EXTREME.
DAVID, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
Gordon: GOD BLESS
YOU.
TERRY, OVER TO YOU.
Terry: COMING UP, A
TRAVELLING EVANGELIST IN
UGANDA MEETS INA.
IN ABOUT 14 MINUTES, HE
SAID, I WANT TO GIVE MY
LIFE TO THE LORD.
Terry: HOW DID HIS
VILLAGE, KNOWN FOR ITS
WITCHCRAFT, RESPOND?
FIND OUT AFTER THIS.
Gordon: IN THE
AFRICAN NATION OF UGANDA,
SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS REAL.
AND WITCH DOCTORS CONTROL
ENTIRE VIL LAISMS.
VILLAGES.
AS STEVE LITTLE SHOWS US
IN THE LATEST "UNDER THE
RADAR," THEY'RE NO MATCH
FOR THE GOSPEL OF JESUS
CHRIST.
Reporter: THESE ARE
THE STORIES OF BELIEVERS,
STEPPING UNAN UP AND STEPPING
OUTSIDE CHURCH WALLS.
NOT LOOKING FOR ATTENTION;
SIMPLY LOVING THE WAY
JESUS DID.
THIS IS "UNDER THE RADAR."
PETER WAS A TRAVELLING
EVANGELIST, AND INOC WAS A
WITCH DOCTOR.
THIS ONE PARTICULAR
VILLAGE, IN A DISTRICT IN
A WHOLE COUNTRY THAT HAD A
LOT OF WITCHCRAFT.
EVERYBODY THAT TALKED
ABOUT IT KNEW THAT THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE,
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT
WOULD BEWITCH YOU AND YOU
WOULD DIE IN A SHORT TIME.
Reporter: ONE DAY
PETER TOLD HIM TO TEACH
THE GOSPEL IN THAT
VILLAGE.
AND WHAT HAPPENED?
I SAID I'M HERE TO TELL
PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A
WITCH DOCTOR.
AND HE TOLD ME, PLEASE
TELL ME ABOUT THE LORD.
IN ABOUT 40 MINUTES, HE
SAID, I WANT TO GIVE MY
LIFE TO THE LORD.
I SAID, WOW, THIS IS
QUICK.
SO WE PRAYED TOGETHER.
Reporter: SOON INOC
LED HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER
TO THE LORD.
SO PETER STARTED A
BIBLE STUDY IN HIS HOUSE.
IN THE COURSE OF ONE
YEAR, WE HAD ABOUT 35
PEOPLE THAT HAD GIVEN
THEIR LIVES TO THE LORD.
Reporter: YOU KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.
ON THE 25th OF
DECEMBER 2008, THE CHURCH
WAS STARTED THEN.
Reporter: TODAY, THE
CHURCH STARTED BY THE
EVANGELIST AND THE
ONE-TIME WITCH DOCTOR
HELPS FIGHT SPIRITUAL
DARKNESS IN UGANDA.
BUT THAT IS A STORY FOR
THE NEXT TIME.
THIS IS STEVE LITTLE FOR
"UNDER THE RADAR."
Gordon: EVIDENCE THAT
EVEN IN THE MOST DIFFICULT
CIRCUMSTANCES, THE POWER
OF GOD IS ABLE TO PREVAIL.
AND CHURCHES ARE BEING
BORN.
WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT
WE'RE IN THE GREATEST
REVIVAL THE CHURCH HAS
EVER SEEN.
THIS IS AN AMAZING TIME.
THE FINAL IN-GATHERING OF
THE GENTILES.
WHAT THE APOSTLE POWELL
PROPHESIED IS HAPPENING
TODAY.
AND WE NEED TO REJOICE AT
WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND
THE WORLD.
Terry: BOY, THAT IS
FOR SURE.
IT IS EXCITING TO SEE
THAT.
A GOOD THING TO REMEMBER
ON THE HEELS OF OUR OWN
CULTURE GOING THROUGH
TRANSITION, RIGHT?
> EVERY DAY TAYLOR PUT
HIS LIFE ON THE LINE.
HE WAS A DEEP SEA DIVER
WHO HAD TO PROVIDE FOR HIS
FAMILY.
EVEN THOUGH HIS JOB WAS
DANGEROUS, IT STILL DIDN'T
PUT ENOUGH ON THE TABLE TO
EAT.
7-YEAR-OLD DITO WAITS ON
THE SHORES IN SOUTHERN
THAILAND, WONDERING IF
THIS IS THE DAY HIS FATHER
WILL COME HOME.
I MISS MY DADDY A LOT.
MOMMY AND I ALWAYS PRAY
FOR HIM.
I WISH DADDY WERE HERE
EVERY DAY.
Terry: HIS FATHER
DIVES FOR A LIVING, USING
A SINGLE HOSE ATTACHED TO
A COMPRESSOR.
HE MUST SWIM UP TO
130 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE
AND STAY UNDER WATER FOR
AN HOUR.
HE IS LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN
DELICACY.
MANY HAVE DIED OR BEEN
PARALYZED DOING THIS.
HE SAYS HE HAS BEEN LUCKY
SO FAR.
HE EARNS JUST $4 A DAY FOR
THE RISKY JOB.
IF I HADN'T TAKEN THE
JOB, MY FAMILY WOULD HAVE
NOTHING TO EAT.
THERE ARE NO OTHER JOBS
HERE.
I STILL HAVE TO BORROW
MONEY FOR FOOD.
Terry: BACK HOME,
TAYLOR'S WIFE TRIES TO
REPAIR THEIR FISHING NET.
THEY OWN A SMALL FISHING
BOAT, BUT WITH NO MOTOR.
CATCHING LARGER FISH TO
SELL IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
EVERY TIME MY HUSBAND
LEAVES, WE WONDER IF HE
WILL COME HOME SAFELY.
WE DONT WANT HI DON'T WANT HIM TO GO,
BUT WE NEED THE MONEY.
Terry: THE COUPLE
REALIZED THEY NEEDED TO
ASK FOR HELP.
THAT'S WHEN CBN'S
"ORPHANS' PROMISE" STARTED
A PRE-SCHOOL IN THEIR
COMMUNITY.
THERE THE CHILDREN ENJOY
HEALTHY LUNCHES.
MAWA EVEN WORKS PART-TIME
THERE, AND IS BRINGING IN
A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY FOR
THE FAMILY.
BECAUSE OF "ORPHANS'
PROMISE," MY CHILDREN HAVE
NOT MISSED A SINGLE MEAL.
AND I LOVE TEACHING THE
OTHER CHILDREN BIBLE
STORIES AND SONGS.
Terry: THEN WE WERE
ABLE TO HELP TAYLOR STAY
CLOSER TO HOME, BY GIVING
HIM A BOAT ENGINE AND SOME
NEW NETS.
I'M ABLE TO CATCH SO
MANY FISH AND CRABS, I CAN
BUY ENOUGH FOOD FOR MY
FAMILY FOR EVERY MEAL.
THANK YOU, CBN.
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COMPASSION, YOUR
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WHEN YOU DO, WE WANT TO
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YOU "VICTORY THROUGH
LIFE'S STORMS."
THIS IS PAT'S LATEST
D.V.D., AND YOU'RE GOING
TO LOVE IT.
IT IS FILLED WITH WISE
COUNSEL FROM HIM, IN HIS
80 SOME YEARS WALKING WITH
THE LORD, AND FINDING
VICTORIES WITH GOD'S POWER
IN HIS LIFE.
AND THERE ARE SOME AMAZING
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GORDON?
Gordon: STILL AHEAD,
SHE WAS ASHAMED.
IT WAS ITCHING TO
THEPOINT OF PRACTICALLY
SEEING BLOOD.
BUT IT WAS TOO
EMBARRASSING.
Gordon: AND SHE
COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
IT.
HEAR WHAT GAVE HER BACK
HER LIFE, AFTER THIS.
Terry: SANDRA'S SKIN
WAS, WELL, EMBARRASSING.
THE YOUNG MOTHER HAD
RASHES AND BLISTERS THAT
COVERED HER BODY AND
FORCED HER TO STAY
INDOORS.
AND NO MATTER HOW MANY
CREAMS AND MEDS THE
DOCTORS DESCRIBED, NOTHING
WORKED, UNTIL SHE HEARD
GORDON GIVE A WORD OF
KNOWLEDGE.
IT WAS ITCHING TO THE
POINT OF ACTUALLY SEEING
BLOOD.
I WASN'T GOING OUT BECAUSE
IT WAS TOO EMBARRASSING.
Reporter: IN 2006,
SANDRA WENT TO THE DOCTOR
TO FIND A RELIEF FOR A
SEVERE RASH ON HER LEGS.
I WAS EXPLAINING THE
SYMPTOMS TO THE DOCTOR,
AND HE JUST TOLD ME, WELL,
IT'S A FORM OF ECZEMA.
HE SAID IT CAN JUST
GRADUALLY COME ABOUT.
AND THE BEST HE CAN DO WAS
TO PRESCRIBE SOME CREAMS
FOR ME.
Reporter: THE OVER
THE COUNTER CREAM THAT THE
DOCTOR PRESCRIBED DIDN'T
WORK.
THAT SUMMER NEW SYMPTOMS
APPEARED.
I NOTICED BLISTERS ON
MY HANDS.
SO I WENT BACK TO THE
DOCTOR.
AND HE SAID, YES, THIS IS
ANOTHER FORM OF ECZEMA AND
IT COMES OUT IN THE HEAT.
Reporter: HER DOCTOR
PRESCRIBED MORE CREAMS.
THE DOCTORS WERE PRETTY
NEGATIVE.
THEY JUST SAID THAT THAT'S
ALL THEY COULD DO, AND I
WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH
IT.
II WAS TOO SELF-CONSCIOUS.
IT WAS TW TOO EMBARRASSLY.
I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
Reporter: SANDRA
LIVED WITH THE ITCHING AND
EMBARRASSMENT FOR TWO
YEARS.
DURING THIS TIME SHE
STARTED PRAYING AND
READING HER BIEBLG.
>BIBLE.
MATTHEW SAYS, I TAKE
CARE OF THE BIRDS IN THE
AIR, THE FLOWERS, HOW MUCH
MORE WILL I TAKE CARE OF
YOU?
THAT KEPT COMING AROUND IN
MY HEAD.
I SAID, I KNOW HE LOVES
ME, SO I'LL JUST KEEP
PRAYING.
THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
Reporter: THEN ONE
DAY SHE WAS WATCHING "THE
700 CLUB."
THEN THE WORD OF
KNOWLEDGE CAME ON, AND
GORDON STARTED TALKING
ABOUT SOMEONE WITH ECZEMA.
Gordon: YOU HAVE A
SKIN CONDITION AND IT IS
CAUSING BUBBLES ON THE
SKIN.
THEY'RE, LIKE, FILLED WITH
FLUIDS, AND GOD IS HEALING
THAT.
HE IS TAKING THAT ALL AWAY
FROM YOU RIGHT NOW.
IN JESUS' NAME.
Terry: THANK YOU,
LORD.
Gordon: BE HEALED.
AMEN.
I KIND OF JUMPED UP AND
DOWN CLAIMING IT.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
OUT OF EVERYONE THAT WAS
WATCHING, YOU PAID
ATTENTION TO ME.
I KNEW GOD WAS DOING
SOMETHING FOR ME.
AS SOON AS I STARTED
FEELING THE TINGLING ON MY
LEGS, I KNEW IT WAS
HAPPENING.
HE WAS HEALING ME.
MAYBE WASN'T RIGHT AWAY.
BUT HE WAS WORKING.
Reporter: WITHIN SIX
MONTHS, ALL OF HER
SYMPTOMS OF ECZEMA WERE
COMPLETELY GONE.
MY CONFIDENCE CAME
BACK.
I WAS NOT EMBARRASSED
ANYMORE.
I WAS VERY EXCITED.
Reporter: SANDRA
OFFERS ENCOURAGEMENT ON
ANYONE WAITING ON GOD FOR
HEALING.
I WOULD SAY, DON'T GIVE
UP.
CERTAINLY PRAY.
AND TALK TO JESUS.
HE'S THE BEST PERSON TO GO
TO.
HE IS YOUR CREATOR.
HE IS A BIG GOD.
I KNOW GOD HEALS TODAY
BECAUSE HE HEALED ME.
Terry: AND HE CAN
HEAL YOU, TOO.
WE'VE RECEIVED SOME PRAYER
REQUESTS ON Facebook,
AND BEFORE WE PRAY TODAY,
WE JUST WANT TO SHARE
THOSE WITH YOU SO WE CAN
ALL PRAY TOGETHER AS
FAMILY.
INGRID WRITES, "PLEASE
PRAY FOR ME.
THE DOCTORS FOUND SOME
NODULES IN MY THYROID AND
I WILL HAVE A BIOPSY ON
JUNE 7th.
PLEASE PRAY IT ISN'T
CANCER AND FOR COMPLETE
HEALING AND PEACE OF
MIND."
JULIE SAYS, "MY
ONE-MONTH-OLD COOPER IS
GOING TO FOR TESTING FOR
CYSTIC FIBROSIS.
PLEASE PRAY ALL OF THE
TESTS OF NEGLECT."
Gordon: AND DARIUS
SAYS, "PLEASE PRAY FOR THE
REFUGEES COMING INTO
GERMANY AS WE WORK TO SAVE
THEM, AND MAKE JESUS KNOWN
TO THEM SO THEY CAN ACCEPT
HIM AS THEIR SAVIOR.
I AM A VOLUNTARY
MISSIONARY."
LET'S PRAY AND REALIZE
THAT GOD PAYS ATTENTION TO
YOU.
HE KNOWS THE VERY HAIRS ON
YOUR HEAD.
HE HAS EVERY ONE OF THEM
NUMBERED.
IF HE CARES FOR THE BIRDS
OF THE AIR -- THAT'S WHAT
JESUS SAID, IF HE CARES
FOR THEM, HOW MUCH MORE
DOES HE CARE ABOUT YOU?
HOW MUCH MORE ARE YOU
VALUABLE TO HIM?
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS
BELIEVE THAT AND DWELL IN
THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE
COMES INTO PLACE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PRAY.
WE'RE GOING TO PRAY FOR
THESE REQUESTS, AND WE'RE
GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU.
SO JOIN WITH US IN PRAYER,
AND THERE IS THIS
WONDERFUL VERSE, IF TWO OR
MORE AGREE, IT SHALL BE
DONE BY OUR FATHER IN
HEAVEN.
SO TERRY AND I ARE GOING
TO AGREE.
THE AUDIENCE IS GOING TO
AGREE.
YOU JOIN IN AND LET'S
AGREE TOGETHER AND SEE
WHAT GOD WILL DO.
LET'S PRAY.
LORD, WE JUST LIFT THE
NEEDS, THE ONES THAT HAVE
BEEN WRITTEN IN RIGHT NOW.
WE PRAY FOR INGRID AND WE
ASK FOR COMPLETE HEALING
FOR HER AND FOR COOPER.
YOU JUST TREASURE HIM.
BE WITH THEM NOW, LORD
GOD.
LET YOUR PRESENCE SURROUND
THEM AND BE ALL OVER THEM
AND IN THEM, AND STRETCH
FORTH YOUR HAND TO DO
MIRACLES AND WONDERS,
SIGNS AND WONDERS,
MIRACLES ON THE EARTH,
LORD GOD.
LET YOUR WILL BE DONE ON
EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
AND NOW FOR THE REFUGEES
COMING INTO GERMANY, FOR
THOSE IN GREECE,
MACEDONIA, FOR ALL OF
THEM, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU
WOULD REVEAL YOURSELF TO
THEM.
OPEN THEIR EYES, LORD GOD,
THAT THEY MAY SEE.
OPEN THEIR EARS THAT THEY
MAY HEAR YOUR VOICE.
GIVE THEM A HEART OF
UNDERSTANDING SO THAT THEY
WOULD TURN AND FIND
SALVATION WITH YOU.
AND NOW FOR THOSE WHO ARE
WATCHING, WE JUST DECLARE
OVER THEM THAT YOU ARE THE
ANSWER TO EVERY HUMAN
NEED.
YOU PROVIDE FOR ALL.
YOU SHOW NO PARTIALITY.
YOU'RE NOT A RESPECTER OF
PERSONS.
YOU WANT TO COME TO THEM
RIGHT NOW AND LOVE THEM.
SO, JESUS, MANIFEST
YOURSELF RIGHT IN THEIR
PRESENCE NOW.
AND OPEN THEIR EYES THAT
THEY CAN SEE.
OPEN THEIR EARS SO THEY
CAN TURN AND YOU WOULD
HEAL THEM.
TERRY, YOU'VE GOT A WORD?
Terry: I WANT TO PRAY
THAT THOSE WHO ARE HEARING
WOULD BECOME OBEDIENT.
THAT, HOLY SPIRIT, YOU
WOULD BREATHE THAT FRESH
LIFE INTO THEIR HEARTS
THAT SAYS, I WANT TO
FOLLOW JESUS.
GIVE FAITH AND COURAGE --
FAITH TO BELIEVE FOR THOSE
WHO HAVE STOOD ON SHALLOW
GROUND AND ROCKY GROUND,
LORD.
PRAY THAT THEY WOULD SET
THEIR FEET ON THE ROCK OF
JESUS CHRIST.
Gordon: THERE IS A
WOMAN NAMED MARJORIE WHO
IS SEEING FLASHES OF
LIGHT.
YOU'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH
A DETACHED RETINA.
AND YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT
GOING BLIND.
JESUS WANTS TO CALL YOU BY
NAME AND LET YOU KNOW HE
IS HEALING THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO
BLIND.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
PERFECTLY IN JESUS' NAME.
AMEN AND AMEN.
RIGHT AFTER THE SHOW,
WE'LL BE LIVE ON
Facebook, AND WE WANT TO
HEAR FROM YOU ON THE
TOPIC: HOW CAN WE BE
EFFECTIVE CHRISTIANS WHEN
SOCIETY THINKS WE'RE
IRRELEVANT.
JUST GO TO Facebook.COM.
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE
HAVE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN
TOMORROW.