Erick: AND WELCOME TO

"THE WATCHMAN."

WELL, IF YOU WATCH THIS

SHOW ON A REGULAR BASIS,

YOU KNOW THAT ISRAEL AND

THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE

FACING EXTENTIAL THREATS

FROM ALL SIDES, WHETHER IT

IS A NUCLEAR IRAN,

HEZBOLLAH, ISIS, OR THE

STUNNING GROWTH OF

ANTI-SEMITISM IN EUROPE,

OR THE OPEN HOSTILITY OF

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

THINGS ARE VERY ROUGH

RIGHT NOW FOR ISRAEL AND

THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS

ARE ISRAEL'S GREATEST

FRIENDS IN THE WORLD.

BUT THERE IS EVEN A

MOVEMENT NOW IN THE

CHURCH, ESPECIALLY AMONG

SOME YOUNG PEOPLE, TO

EMBRACE THE PALESTINIAN

NARRATIVE AND SAY THAT GOD

IS DONE WITH THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

IT IS CALLED "REPLACEMENT

THEOLOGY," AND IT IS DEAD

WRONG.

FOLKS, THE BIBLE MAKES IT

VERY CLEAR THAT GOD IS

ANYTHING BUT FINISHED WITH

HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, "WHEN A

JEW RULES THE WORLD, WHAT

THE BIBLE REALLY SAYS

ABOUT ISRAEL AND THE PLAN

OF GOD," "NEW YORK TIMES"

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR JOEL

RICHARDSON SMASHES

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY AND

SHOWS WHY YOU SHOULD CARE

ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN

ISRAEL RIGHT NOW.

JOEL IS ONE OF THE MOST

THOUGHT-PROVOKING AND

ORIGINAL VOICES ON BIBLE

PROPHECY TODAY.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO

HAVE HIM ON "THE WATCHMAN"

TODAY.

JOEL, WELCOME.

ERICK, THANK YOU FOR

HAVING ME ON.

Erick: IT IS GREAT TO

BE WITH YOU, MY FRIEND.

LOOK, I THINK A GOOD PLACE

TO START IS A LOT OF TIMES

PEOPLE -- I THINK

SOMETIMES CHRISTIANS

BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS A

BAPTIST OR A PRESBYTERIAN.

BUT AS THE TITLE OF YOUR

BOOK, "WHEN A JEW RULES

THE WORLD" SPELLS OUT,

JESUS WAS A JEW.

IMAGINE THAT.

JOEL, GIVE US A LITTLE

BACKGROUND INTO THE HEBREW

ROOTS OF THE CHRISTIAN

FAITH, JESUS, HIS

DISCIPLES, THE PROPHETS,

AND THE JEWISH ROOTS OF

THIS FAITH THAT WE FOLLOW

TODAY.

THANK YOU.

IT IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE

AND REALLY ALL WE'RE

TRYING TO DO IS TO RETURN

TO THE ACTUAL CONTEXT OF

THE BIBLE.

WHICH IS TO SAY THAT GOD

LOOKED DOWN AT A WORLD

FULL OF PAGENS AND HE

CHOSE A MAN NAMED ABRAHAM.

AND HE TURNED ABRAHAM INTO

A FAMILY KNOWN AS ISRAEL.

TODAY WE CALL THEM THE

JEWISH PEOPLE.

HE CULTIVATED THAT PEOPLE,

AND OUT OF THAT PEOPLE HE

BROUGHT FORTH USHUAIA, OR

JESUS, THE MESSIAH,

THROUGH WHICH HIS PLAN WAS

TO REDEEM, LITERALLY, ALL

OF CREATION.

AND THAT HE WOULD DRAW IN

NOT JUST JEWS, BUT

GENTILES AND PEOPLE OF

EVERY TONGUE, TRIBE AND

NATION.

TODAY YOU HAVE A LOT OF

CHRISTIANS WHO SAY IN THE

NEW TESTAMENT, HE EXPANDED

HIS ORIGINAL VISION AND

UNIVERSALIZED IT, AND IT

IS TRUE HE THREW THE DOORS

WIDE OPEN, BUT HE NEVER

DID AWAY WITH HIS ORIGINAL

PLAN TO USE THE PEOPLE OF

ISRAEL AND THE LAND OF

ISRAEL REALLY AS THE

PLATFORM FROM WHICH HE

WOULD AFFECT HIS GREAT

PLAN OF UNIVERSAL

REDEMPTION.

THIS IS WHAT IS SO

ESSENTIAL, COMING TO

UNDERSTAND THE VERY BASIC

FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES

LAID OUT THROUGH THE

SCRIPTURES, AND WALKING IN

THOSE.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T AS

CHRISTIANS, THEN REALLY

WE'RE WALKING IN AN

ATTITUDE THAT PAUL THE

APOSTLE SAYS IS ARROGANT,

AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO

WALK IN ARROGANCE.

Erick: IN ROMANS, GOD

PAUL MAKES IT CLEAR GOD IS

NOT DONE WITH THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

THE BIBLE SAYS, I HAVE

LOVED YOU WITH AN

EVERLASTING LOVE, HE SAYS

TO ISRAEL.

SO WHERE DID IT ALL GO

WRONG?

WHERE DID THIS REPLACEMENT

THEOLOGY BEGIN TO SET IN

AMONG CHRISTIANS REGARDING

THE JEWISH PEOPLE?

IT IS AMAZING HOW EARLY

IT STARTED.

EVEN THE END OF THE 1st

CENTURY WITH JUSTIN

MARTER, AND WITH SOME OF

THE CHURCH FATHERS, AND

THEY BEGAN INTRODUCING

VERY STRONG ANTI-JEWISH

IDEAS INTO THE DOCTRINES

OF THE CHURCH, AFTER THE

DISPERSION OF THE

JERUSALEM CHURCH, THE

CHURCH BEGAN TO BE

DOMINATEEDOMINATED BY GENTILE

LEADERS.

AND PAUL WARNED, DON'T

FALL INTO ARROGANCE, AND

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE

CHURCH DID.

THEY STARTED ARTICULATING

THAT THE CHURCH IS NEW AND

TRUE ISRAEL.

TODAY, IF YOU'RE A GENTILE

AND YOU COME INTO THE

FAITH, THEN YOU ARE

GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL.

YOUR A WILD BRANCH.

SO IT IS AN ISRAEL-SENTRIC

PLAN.

IT IS NOT A

CHURCH-CENTERED PLAN,

WHERE JEWS HAVE TO COME

JOIN THE CHURCH.

IT IS ACTUALLY THE OTHER

WAY AROUND.

Erick: TO THE JEW

FIRST GOES THE GOSPEL.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE

CHURCH FATHERS, AND EVEN

MARTIN LUTHER, THE MAN

BEHIND THE REFORMATION,

WROTE SOME PRETTY

ANTI-SEMITIC WORKS LATER

IN HIS LIFE, SAD TO SAY.

WHAT DOES THE NEW

CHRISTIAN ANTI-SEMITISM

LOOK LIKE TODAY?

AND THIS IS EXPLODING

ACROSS THE EARTH.

IN A LOT OF WAYS, WE

THOUGHT WE WERE PAST THIS.

A HALF CENTURY, AND YOU'VE

HAD THE TRENDING ACROSS

THE GLOBE OF CHRISTIANS

REJECTING THE LONG

HORRIFIC HISTORY OF THE

CHURCH PERSECUTING THE

JEWS.

AND IT HAS BEEN BRUTAL.

WHEN YOU READ THIS STUFF,

MARTIN LUTHER, IT IS

VICIOUS.

HE IS CALLING FOR THE

MURDER OF JEWS.

AND WE LEFT THAT BEHIND,

BUT NOW THERE IS SORT OF

THIS REACTION.

ALL OF THESE YOUNG KIDS

MILLENNIUMS -- IN THE NAME

OF SOCIAL JUSTICE

COMPASSION, AND THEY'RE

BUYING INTO THIS

NARRATIVE, ESSENTIALLY

THAT ISRAEL IS JUST THIS

JUGGERNAUT, APARTHEID NEO

NAZI STATE AND THEY'RE

OPPRESSING THE POOR

PALESTINIANS.

YOU CAN GO BACK IN THE

BIBLE TO LITTLE DAVID

AGAINST GOLIATH.

AND THIS NARRATIVE GETS

REPEATED.

THEY'RE USING THAT POWER

OF NARRATIVE TO PORTRAY

THE PALESTINIANS AS THE

UNDERDOG, THE LITTLE GUY.

THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES

ARE THE STRONG GUYS.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER

IS, YES, THERE ARE

PALESTINIANS THAT ARE

SUFFERING, BUT WHY ARE

THEY SUFFERING?

THEY ARE SUFFERING

PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE

UNPREPENTANT ATTITUDE OF

THEIR LEADERS WHO REFUSE

TO REJECT THE ISLAMIC PROF

PROPHECYS.

AND THEY FEEL IT IS THEIR

JOB TO EXTERMINATE THE

JEWISH PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE OPEN CALLS FOR

THE GENOCIDE OF THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE MUHAMMAD'S

EXAMPLE OF WIPING OUT

SEVERAL JEWISH VILLAGES.

AND THERE WAS NO STATE OF

ISRAEL.

SO ANTI-SEMITISM AND

JEWISH HATRED IS

FOUNDATIONAL.

IT IS SYSTEMIC AND ENDEMIC

IN ISLAM.

AND THERE WILL BE NO PEACE

FOR THE PALESTINIAN CHILD

UNTIL REPENTANCE OF THIS

GENOCIDAL HATRED SPREADS

THROUGHOUT THE PALESTINIAN

COMMUNITY.

Erick: I THINK THAT

IS A GREAT WORD TO USE,

"REPENTANCE."

AND AS YOU SAID, JOEL, IT

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE

PALESTINIANS OR THE

JIHADISTS, THE ISLAMIC

WORLD IN GENERAL, IS READY

TO REPENT.

YOU SEE THIS AT ISLAMIC

ANTI-SEMITISM, AND WE

OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE RISE OF

ISIS NOW, WHICH IS A

DEMONIC GENOCIDAL

ORGANIZATION.

DO YOU SEE THIS COMING TO

SORT OF A BIG CONCLUSION?

WHEN IS GOD GOING TO SAY,

ENOUGH WITH THE WORLD OF

RADICAL ISLAM?

PERSONALLY I BELIEVE

"THE ENOUGH" IS ACTUALLY

AT HIS RETURN.

I THINK THERE WILL BE A

SERIES OF EVENTS AND WARS

AND REGIONAL CONFLICTS,

WHERE IT MAY APPEAR THAT

ISIS TAKES A MASSIVE HIT.

I'M ACTUALLY THINKING

THERE IS SOME SOLID

BIBLICAL AND GEO POLITICAL

THAT IRAN IS ABOUT TO

BREAK OUT IN A WAR.

I THINK ISIS COULD BE THE

BAIT THAT LURES IRAN OUT.

Erick: THEY'RE

FIGHTING RIGHT NOW.

AS A SIDE NOTE.

WHAT IS UNFOLDING RIGHT

NOW -- IT IS NOT JUST

THIS, BUT IT IS A PROXY

WAR THAT IS BEING FOUGHT

BETWEEN TURKEY AND IRAN.

THIS IS THE SAME PATTERN

THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

YOU HAD NETO PERSIA AND

THE ROMAN EMPIRE VERSES

THE PYTHIONS.

THESE PARTS OF THE WORLD

THAT ARE REPEATEDLY

CLASHING.

EVEN IN THE SPIRITUAL

REALM, IT IS THE PRINCE OF

GREECE AND THE PRINCE OF

PERSIA.

AND THERE IS THIS ANCIENT

SPIRITUAL CONFLICT.

TURKEY, AS YOU WELL KNOW,

IS USING ISIS IN ITS PROXY

WAR AGAINST IRAN, AGAINST

THE KURDS AND AGAINST

ASSAD.

THEY'RE GIVING LOGISTICAL

MILITARY SUPPORT,.

Erick: AND TURKEY IS

NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE

FOR THIS.

NO, NO.

THEY ARE LETTING TENS OF

THOUSANDS OF THEM IN.

Erick: AND THE

ILLICIT OIL CONTROL.

AND THEY'RE MAKING

MILLIONS OFF OF THAT.

Reporter: AND THAT

TURKEY'S JUNK YARD, ISIS.

AND NOW THERE IS THE

HOUTHI REBELS ON THE

SOUTHERN BORDER OF SAUDI

AND ASSAD, AND THEY HAVE

THEIR PROXIES.

SO THERE IS ALREADY A WAR

GOING ON, BUT IT HASN'T

ESCALATED TO A FULL-BLOWN

CONFLICT.

I THINK THERE IS SOLID

EVIDENCE THAT IRAN MAY

BASICALLY MOP THE FLOOR

WITH ISIS IN TERP TERMS OF IRAQ

IN SYRIA.

BUT EVEN IF THAT IS THE

CASE, THEY ALREADY HAVE A

STRONGHOLD IN LIBYA AND

THE SINAI.

THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME

MAJOR WARS IN THE MIDDLE

EAST BEFORE THE RETURN OF

JESUS.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN DOES

GOD SAY IT IS ENOUGH?

I BELIEVE IT IS WHEN JESUS

RETURNS.

AND THE REASON I SAY THIS

IS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS

IMPORTANT THAT THE CHURCH

RECOGNIZES THAT ISLAM IS

NOT GOING AWAY.

IT REALLY IS THE GREATEST

GLOBAL CHALLENGE THAT WE

AS THE BODY OF CHRIST ARE

GOING TO FACE BEFORE HIS

RETURN.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE NEED

TO GET OFF OUR DUFFS AND

GET ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF

PROCLAIMING THE GOSPEL AND

GOING FOR THE COMPLETION

OF THE GREAT COMMISSION.

LOOK, ERICK, IF ISIS CAN

RECRUIT 30,000 YOUNG

PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE

WORLD TO JOIN THEIR

ORGANIZATION, THEN CAN WE

GET 5,000 PEOPLE TO LAY

DOWN THEIR LIVES AT

MISSIONARIES?

Erick: AMEN.

JOEL, WE'VE GOT TO LEAVE

IT RIGHT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK MUCH

MORE ABOUT THIS BOOK,

"WHEN A JEW RULES THE."

DON'T MOVE.

MUCH MORE TO COME.

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE TALKING TO JOEL

RICHARDSON, AUTHOR OF A

GREAT NEW BOOK, "WHEN A

JEW RULES THE WORLD."

JOEL, IN YOUR BOOK, I

MEAN, YOU DELVED DEEPLY

INTO HIS ISSUE ON SO MANY

LEVELS.

WE TALKED ABOUT

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

BEFORE THE BREAK.

TELL US ABOUT RESTORATION

AND WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.

SURE.

I USE THE TERM

"RESTORATION" TO BE THE

OPPOSITE OF REPLACEMENT.

THE DISCIPLES COME TO

JESUS AND SAID, IS IT AT

THIS TIME?

AND THE THEOLOGIANS SAY

THE DISCIPLES ARE IDIOTS,

BUT JESUS DOESN'T REBUKE

THEM.

AND LATER, PETER SAYS,

WHILE PROCLAIMING THE

GOSPEL, AT THE RESTORATION

OF ALL THINGS -- HE IS

TALKING ABOUT THE SAME

THING.

THERE IS NO RESTORATION OF

ALL THINGS WITHOUT THE

RESTORATION OF ISRAEL.

AND THIS IS WHAT IS SO

ESSENTIAL.

WHEN JESUS COMES BACK, HE

WILL RESTORE THE THRONE OF

DAVID.

IT SAYS HE WILL SIT ON HIS

THRONE OF GLORY.

THE THRONE OF DAVID IS THE

JEWISH MONARCHY.

IT IS THEIR JEWISH ROYAL

DYNASTY.

JESUS IS COMING BACK TO

RESTORE THAT KINGDOM OVER

WHICH HE WILL RULE THE

WHOLE EARTH.

SO THIS IS A COMPONENT

THAT -- SO MUCH OF THE

CHURCH BELIEVES THAT JESUS

IS GOING TO COME BACK AND

RULE.

WHERE IS HE GOING TO RULE

FROM?

HE IS GOING TO RULE FROM

JERUSALEM, FROM ISRAEL,

FROM THE RESTORED KINGDOM

OF ISRAEL.

WHEN HE COMES BACK, HE

SAYS TO HIS DISCIPLES, YOU

WILL SIT TO JUDGE THE 12

TRIBES OF ISRAEL.

YOU CAN'T GET ANYMORE

JEWISH THAN THAT.

THE BIBLE IS FILLED WITH

VERY DISTINCTLY JEWISH

CHARACTERISTICS OF THE

KINGDOM THAT WILL BE

ESTABLISHED POSSIBLY IN

OUR VERY NEAR FUTURE.

Erick: IT IS AMAZING

HOW IT IS JUST KIND OF ALL

DEVELOPING.

AND YOU MENTIONED HOW

THERE HAS BEEN THE LAST

CENTURY A MOVEMENT --

ALTHOUGH WE HAVE

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY, WE

HAVE A MOVEMENT AMONG

CHRISTIANS WHO DO GET

THIS.

THANK GOD THAT YOU'RE

WRITING BOOKS LIKE THIS,

JOEL, THAT ARE WAKING

PEOPLE UP AND EDUCATING

PEOPLE.

TELL US ALSO ABOUT ANOTHER

TOPIC YOU ADDRESS IN THE

BOOK, THE TIME OF JACOB'S

TROUBLE.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?

THIS IS HIEWSM.

WHEN YOHUGE.WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORDS

OF JEREMIAH, THEY WARN OF

THE TIME OF DAVID'S

DISTRESS, ISRAEL'S

DISTRESS.

IN CONTEXT, IT IS JESUS

TALKING ABOUT JACOB'S

TROUBLE.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE NATIONS

GATHERED AGAINST JERUSALEM

TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE AN

EFFORT TO EFFECT THAT

FINAL GENOCIDE OF THE

JEWISH PEOPLE.

WE AS A CHURCH LOOK BACK

AND JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR

FAILING DURING WORLD WAR

II.

BUT THE SCRIPTURES HAVE

EVIDENCE THAT SOMETHING

FAR WORSE IS ACTUALLY

COMING.

WE HAVE ALL OF THE

EVIDENCE, HATRED

THROUGHOUT THE EARTH, AND

BY AND LARGE WE'RE DOING

SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IT IS TIME FOR THE CHURCH

TO WAKE UP TO THIS ISSUE.

THIS IS A VERY PRACTICAL,

APPLICATIONAL ISSUE WE

NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

Erick: AND I WANT TO

TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE RISE

OF ISIS, AND WHAT THAT

MEANS AND WHAT IT MEANS

PROPHETICALLY.

AND YOU DO A LOT OF

MISSIONARY WORK, AND WHAT

IS GOING ON WITH THE

PERSECUTED CHURCH, AND

SOME ENCOURAGEMENT OF HOW

SOME MUSLIMS ARE COMING TO

CHRIST IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

THERE IS SOME

ENCOURAGEMENT, FOLKS.

MUCH MORE COMING UP AFTER

THE BREAK WITH JOEL

RICHARDSON.

STICK AROUND.

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE TALKING TO

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR JOEL

RICHARDSON.

HIS LATEST WORK IS "WHEN A

JEW RULES THE WORLD."

HE IS ALSO AUTHOR OF THE

BEST-SELLING BOOKS "THE

ISLAMIC ANTI-CHRIST," AND

"MIDEAST BEAST."

HE IS ALSO A MISSIONARY

WITH A REAL HEART FOR THE

MUSLIM PEOPLE OF THE

MIDDLE EAST.

JOEL, RIGHT NOW TALK

ABOUT -- AND CHRISTIAN

PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST,

I MIGHT ADD.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT

CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION

RIGHT NOW.

WHAT HAS ISIS MEANT?

TO ME IT IS AN ABSOLUTE

UNMITIGATED DISASTER AND

CATASTROPHE FOR THE CHURCH

IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

WHAT HAS ISIS MEANT, AND

WHAT DOES ISIS MEAN

PROPHETICLY?

IT IS AMAZING, ERICK.

I LOOK AT THE RESPONSE OF

THE CHURCH TO THE GENOCIDE

OF CHRISTIANS IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, AND NOT JUST

CHRISTIANS, BUT MUSLIMS

AND YAZIDIS.

THESE ARE OUR BROTHERS AND

SISTERS THAT ARE BEING

SLAUGHTERED, MASSACRED,

CAPTURED IN SEX SLAVERY.

IN THE UNITED STATES, THE

CHURCH, WE TREAT OUR DOGS

BETTER THAN WE TREAT OUR

BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN

THE MIDDLE EAST.

IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF

TIME AND MONEY AND

EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE

GIVING.

AND THERE IS SO MUCH

OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW FOR

THE CHURCH TO BE THE

CHURCH.

AND I'M GRATEFUL THERE ARE

MANY FOLKS THAT ARE GOING

INTO NORTHERN IRAQ.

WE WERE THERE JUST A FEW

MONTHS AGO TO MINISTER TO

THE REFUGEES.

WE SPENT TIME WITH

CHRISTIAN REFUGEES,

MUSLIMS, YAZIDIS.

AND JUST TO TIE THIS INTO

EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT, I WAS SITTING

THERE, AND WE WERE IN

NORTHERN IRAQ, ABOUT

15 MILES FROM THE IRANIAN

BORDER WITH A REFUGEE CAMP

OF YAZIDIS.

ABOUT 16 PEOPLE.

THIS WAS STILL THE WINTER.

THEY'RE BASICALLY CAMPING.

AND IT IS DROPPING BELOW

30° AT NIGHT.

THEY'RE LIVING IN THE MUD.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THEM,

AND I'M SAYING, 300 YEARS

AGO THESE YAZIDIS WERE

JEWS, AND ISIS WERE

CHRISTIANS ALL ACROSS

EUROPE, THAT WERE SEIZING

JEWISH PROPERTY, KILLING

AND MASSACRING JEWS, AND

DRIVING THEM FROM CITY TO

CITY, AND THEY'RE FLEEING

FROM ONE COUNTRY TO THE

NEXT, AND THEY'RE

KIDNAPPING THEIR CHILDREN,

FORCING THEM TO BE

BAPTIZED.

THAT'S A HUGE COMPARISON,

BUT IT IS NOT THAT FAR

OFF.

SO WE ARE AT THE PLACE NOW

WHERE THE CHURCH NEEDS TO

BE THE CHURCH.

WE NEED TO BE STANDING UP

FOR THE JEWS THAT ARE

BEING HATED AND PERSECUTED

AND STANDING WITH OUR

BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

AS CRISIS INCREASES ACROSS

THE EARTH, THE OPPORTUNITY

TO BE CHRISTIANS, TO BE

THE CHURCH AND TO PROCLAIM

THE GOSPEL AND TO MINISTER

TO THOSE HAD ARE IN NEED

IS GOING TO EXPLODE.

IT IS EXPLODING NOW, AND

WE NEED TO BE ABOUT THE

BUSINESS OF BEING BASURES

OF CHRIST.

Erick: JIHAD SAYS,

FIRST THE SATURDAY PEOPLE

AND THEN THE SUNDAY

PEOPLE.

JEWS WERE OBVIOUSLY CHASED

OUT OF MUSLIM LANDS IN THE

20th CENTURY.

THANKFULLY THEY MADE IT TO

THEIR HOMELAND OF ISRAEL

OR HERE TO THE U.S.

BUT WHERE DO THE

PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS IN

THE MIDDLE EAST GO TO LAY

THEIR HEAD?

WHERE DO THEY FIND SAFETY?

ONE OF THE ENCOURAGING

THINGS GOING ON IN THE

MIDDLE EAST THAT WE DON'T

HEAR A LOT ABOUT, JOEL, IS

THAT THERE IS MOVE FOR

JESUS IN THE MIDDLE EAST

AND THE MUSLIM WORLD.

TELL US ABOUT THAT?

WHENEVER SATAN COMES IN

LIKE A FLOOD, THE LORD

RAISES UP THE STANDARD.

I HAVE FRIENDS LEADING THE

UNDERGROUND CHURCH IN

IRAN.

AND HE SAYS AYATOLLAH

KHAMENEI IS ONE OF THE

GREATEST PEOPLE FOR

EVANGELIST BECAUSE HE

REVEALED THE TRUE NATURE

OF ISLAM.

IN THE YEARS AHEAD, WE'RE

GOING TO LOOK BACK AND

DESPITE ALL OF THE

ATROCITIES, WE'RE GOING TO

SAY ISIS WAS ONE OF THE

GREATEST EVANGELISTS

BECAUSE THEY ARE TURNING

PEOPLE OFF OF ISLAM.

THERE ARE REVIVALS

BREAKING OUT.

OUR FRIEND, CHRIS

MITCHELL, HE HAS COVERED

SOME OF THE REVIVALS IN

THE REFUGEE CAMPS.

PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO

CHRIST, MUSLIMS, YAZIDIS,

ARE TURNING TO CHRIST AND

PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE

THE CHURCH IS GOING AND

MINISTERING AND RESPONDING

TO WHAT SATAN IS DOING.

JESUS ALWAYS HAS A

RESPONSE.

WE JUST NEED TO PARTNER

WITH HIM IN THAT.

Erick: DO YOU THINK

PREACHERS AND MINISTERS

AND PASTORS HAVE A

POSSIBILITY RIGHT NOW TO

RESPONSIBILITY TO SPEAK

UP?

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE

ARE ALL THE BODY OF

CHRIST.

DO YOU FEEL THERE IS

RESPONSIBILITY AMONG

AMERICAN CHURCH LEADERS TO

SPEAK OUT BOLDLY ABOUT

THIS?

THERE IS NO QUESTION

ABOUT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT

IT.

WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE

THEOLOGY AND PRACTICES OF

THE EARLY CHURCH, AND

THAT'S TO RECLAIM THE

THEOLOGY OF THE CROSS.

THE CROSS IS NOT A VENDING

MACHINE THAT GUARANTEES

WE'RE GOING TO BE

COMPLETELY BLESSED NOW.

IT IS A GUARANTEE WE'LL BE

BLESSED AT THE

RESURRECTION.

BUT NOW WE ARE TO TAKE UP

OUR CROSS AND IMITATE

JESUS, AND THAT MEANS

LAYING DOWN OUR LIVES FOR

OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS

AND EVEN FOR OUR ENEMIES.

Erick: THAT'S WHY

THIS BOOK IS SO IMPORTANT,

"WHEN A JEW RULES THE

WORLD."

COMING UP, SOME FINAL

THOUGHTS FROM JOEL

RICHARDSON.

STICK AROUND.

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE WRAPPING UP HERE

WITH AUTHOR JOEL

RICHARDSON, HIS NEW BOOK,

IT IS A MUST-READ, "WHEN A

JEW RULES THE WORLD,"

WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD,

PICK IT UP.

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WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW

PEOPLE ARE KIND OF WAITING

FOR A POLITICAL MESSIAH TO

TURN ALL OF THIS AROUND.

TELL US WHY THAT IS NOT

THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE

LOOKING IN.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'M ABOUT AS CONSERVATIVE

AS YOU CAN GET.

I'M COUNTING THE DAYS DOWN

THAT BY THE GRACE OF GOD

WE CAN HAVE A BETTER

LEADER IN THE OFFICE, I

HOPE.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER

REMAINS, WHOEVER GETS IN

THERE IS NOT GOING TO SAVE

US.

WE HAVE ONE SAVIOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE COME

TO THE CONCLUSION -- AND I

THINK A LOT OF

CONSERVATIVES HAVE COME TO

THE CONCLUSION IN THE PAST

SEVERAL YEARS, THAT IN THE

END THE BEST MILITARY, THE

BEST POLITICAL SOLUTIONS

WILL FAIL.

WE AS THE CHURCH SPEND SO

MUCH TIME TRYING TO

LEGISLATE MORALITY AND

LEGISLATURE RIGHTEOUSNESS,

WHICH IS EXTERNAL.

BUT JESUS' METHOD AND

MODEL WAS INTERNAL CHANGE.

WE HAVE A MESSAGE ABOUT A

GOD WHO WANTS TO DWELL

INSIDE OF US AND TRANSFORM

US FROM THE INSIDE OUT.

IF THE CHURCH WOULD BE

ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF

PROCLAIMING THAT GOSPEL

AND EMPHASIZING -- I'M NOT

SAYING THAT POLITICS AND

MILITARY IS IRRELEVANT,

BUT IT IS NOT PRIMARY FOR

THE BELIEVER.

OUR PRIMARY MANDATE IS TO

PROCLAIM JESUS.

HIM CRUCIFIED IN ORDER

THAT WE CAN BECOME HIS

CHILDREN.

IF WE'LL ABOUT THAT

BUSINESS, WE CAN TRANSFORM

OUR COUNTRY AND THE MIDDLE

EAST, BUT WE NEED TO GET

ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF

PUTTING FIRST THINGS

FIRST.

Erick: AMEN.

JOEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE KNOW YOUR ABOUT THAT

BUSINESS.

WE'RE ABOUT THAT BUSINESS

HERE ON THE SHOW.

THE WEBSITE IS ON YOUR

SCREEN.

PICK UP JOEL'S BOOK, "WHEN

A JEW RULES THE WORLD."

KEEP IT UP, MAN.

YOU'RE AN INSPIRATION.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US

HERE ON "THE WATCHMAN."

UNTIL NEXT WEEK, GOD BLESS

YOU.

AND REMEMBER, NEVER HOLD

YOUR PEACE.