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700 Club Interactive: Charleston Shootings – June 23, 2015

Nine people are dead in the worst terrorist attack on an African-American congregation in fifty years. Churches across the country are praying for safety – while beefing up security. Read Transcript


Gordon: SCENES FROM

CHARLESTON.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE

EVER THOUGHT WE WOULD DEAL

WITH.

Gordon: FROM HATE TO

LOVE.

THE BIBLE I USE TEACHES

US TO LOVE.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

WELCOME TO THE SHOW, THE

DOORS ARE OPEN.

EMANUEL AME CHURCH MET ON

SUNDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME

SINCE THOSE HORRIBLE

MURDERS IN CHARLESTON,

SOUTH CAROLINA.

WITH THE WORLD WATCHING,

IT SENT THE MESSAGE THAT

LOVE AND FORGIVENESS CAN

ALWAYS CONQUER HATE.

Terry: AT AN

EMOTIONAL SERVICE, THE

CHURCH MOURNED, PRAYED,

AND HONORED THE LIVES OF

THE MEMBERS THAT THEY

LOVED SO DEARLY.

EFREM GRAHAM HAS THE LOOK

AT THE HEALING THAT IS

BEGINNING TO TAKE SHAPE.

Efrem: SUNDAY WORSHIP

RETURNED TO THIS

CHARLESTON CRIME SCENE,

FOUR DAYS AFTER A GUNMAN

KILLED NINE PEOPLE DURING

BIBLE STUDY AT MOTHER

EMANUEL AME.

LONG-TIME MEMBERS PRAYED

FOR THIS DAY, BUT IT IS

NOT EASY.

THESE PEOPLE I KNEW

WELL.

THESE ARE FINE PEOPLE.

THEY'RE ALL FINE PEOPLE.

FOUR MINISTERS THAT WE

LOST IN THIS CHURCH, AND

THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE.

THEY'RE HONESTLY GREAT

PEOPLE.

I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT

THIS STAFF.

*

Efrem: TEARS GIVE WAY

TO WORSHIP INSIDE THE

SANCTUARY, PACKED WITH

VISITORS, PARISHIONERS,

AND POLITICIANS.

MY UNCLE WENT TO

EMANUEL FOR MORE THAN 40

YEARS BEFORE HIS DEATH.

FOR ME IT IS A FAIRLY

PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I'D

SAY REALLY PERSONAL

EXPERIENCE, IN LOSS.

Efrem: TIM SCOTT IS

THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN

ELECTED TO THE SENATE FROM

SOUTH CAROLINA, AND A

PERSONAL FRIEND OF

CLEMENTA PINCKNEY, THE

PASTOR AND STATE SENATOR

KILLED IN THE MASSACRE.

I'M A REPUBLICAN, AND

HE IS A DEMOCRAT, BUT YOU

WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL

THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE

BECAUSE WHEN WE TOGETHER,

WE WEREN'T TALKING

POLITICS.

WE TALKED ABOUT HIS

FAMILY.

WE TALKED ABOUT HIS LITTLE

GIRLS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE POWER

OF HOPE, THE POWER OF

FAITH, THE POWER OF LOVE.

Efrem: I SAW PASTOR

CLEMENTA PINCKNEY'S LOVE

FIRSTHAND FIVE YEARS AGO

AT THIS GREAT GATHERING OF

MEN ON A MISSION TO HELP

CHILDREN IN LEAD.

EVEN THOSE OF US WHO

MAY COME FROM HOMES WHERE

THERE ARE NO FATHERS, I

THINK THERE ARE ALWAYS

FATHER FIGURES.

Reporter: CLEMENTA

BECAME THAT FIGURE FOR

KYLE GREEN.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF

YOU'RE FROM RIDGEMONT.

Reporter: WHO GROW UP

WITH AN ABSENT FATHER AND

A MOTHER ON DRUGS.

> HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN

AND CLEMENTA.

HE SAW SOMETHING IN ME,

WHICH I DIDN'T SEE IN MY

OWN SELF, AND THAT WAS MY

POTENTIAL TO BE GREAT.

UNKNOWINGLY TO ME, HE

POURED INTO THAT.

I'M GOING TO MISS THAT

MORE THAN ANYTHING, HIS

ABLE TO POUR INTO MY

ABILITY TO BE GRATE.

Efrem: THE PASTOR'S

LOVE IS ALSO PALPABLE

OUTSIDE THIS CHURCH DAYS

AFTER THE HATE-DRIVEN

CRIME.

YOU FEEL IT IN THE

SPONTANEOUS WORSHIP THAT

ERUPTS ON THE STREETS.

IT IS VERY MOVING.

YOU JUST LOOK AROUND AND

YOU SEE THE OUTPOURING OF

LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM THE

COMMUNITY.

Efrem: ZACH AND HIS

COLLEGE BUDDIES CAME FROM

MANHATTAN.

THIS PASTOR TRAVELLED FROM

THE BRONCOS.

BRONX.

IT HELPS THE HEALING

PROCESS WHEN WHITE, BLACK,

ASIAN, LATINO BEGIN TO

COME TOGETHER AND SAY, YOU

KNOW WHAT?

WE'RE HERE TO SAY WE'RE

NOT A PART OF DYLANN

ROOF'S FOOLISHNESS.

WE'RE HERE TO SAY WE'RE

STANDING WITH THE CHURCH

AND THEIR FAMILIES AND

THOSE THAT ARE HURT.

Efrem: THIS PASTOR

JOINED EIGHT MINISTERS

FROM NEW YORK AND NEW

JERSEY, PRAYING WITH

VICTIMS' FAMILY MEMBERS.

LET'S LIVE OUT JOHN 13:

35, WHERE THE LORD SAID

THE WORLD WILL KNOW US AND

KNOW WE'RE HIS DISCIPLES

BY OUR LOVE TOWARDS ONE

ANOTHER.

Efrem: EFREM GRAHAM,

CBN NEWS, CHARLESTON,

SOUTH CAROLINA.

Gordon: WHAT AN

AMAZING CHURCH SERVICE,

SHOWING THAT WE'RE MORE

THAN CONQUERERS, THROUGH

THE LOVE OF CHRIST GIVEN

TO US.

THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS

COMMENTING ON THE

PERSECUTION THAT

CHRISTIANS WERE FACING,

AND WE'RE FACING

PERSECUTION AGAIN.

AND ISN'T IT WONDERFUL

THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER.

AND WE NEED TO HEAL.

WE NEED TO HEAL THE RACIAL

DIVIDE IN AMERICA.

WE NEED TO HEAL AS A BODY

OF CHRIST.

WE NEED TO SHOW THAT THERE

IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK,

SLAVE NOR FREE, MALE NOR

FEMALE.

WE NEED TO SHOW THE WORLD

THAT WE'RE ONE.

JESSICA HAS BEEN

MONITORING THE SITUATION

AT OUR SOCIAL NEWSDESK.

JESSICA, WHAT ARE PEOPLE

SAYING ONLINE.

HERE IS SOMETHING

INTERESTING: AFTER THE

SHOOTING ON DYLANN ROOF'S

Facebook PAGE, THERE WAS

ONE LONE COMMENTS.

IT WAS POSTED BY A MAN

NAMED MARCUS STANLEY.

HE SAID, "I DON'T KNOW

YOU, BUT I DON'T LOOK AT

YOU WITH EYES OF HATRED OR

JUDGE YOU BY YOUR

APPEARANCE.

IN THE MIDST OF THE

DARKNESS AND PAIN YOU'VE

CAUSED, I LOVE YOU,

DYLANN, BUT MORE

IMPORTANTLY, GOD LOVES

YOU."

IT IS AN AMAZING ACT OF

KINDNESS, AND THE

FORGIVENESS OF CHRIST.

AND THEN HE GOES ON TO

WRITE THE PRAYER OF

SALVATION ON DYLANN'S

Facebook PAGE.

WE DON'T KNOW IF DYLANN

SAW THAT POST OR NOT, AND

HIS Facebook PAGE HAS

SINCE BEEN TAKEN DOWN.

AS FOR THE OTHER POSTS,

THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT

PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON OUR

Facebook, ON OUR

TWITTER, ON OUR INSTAGRAM,

IS HASHTAG PRAY FOR

CHARLESTON.

AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY

ENCOURAGED BY THAT.

GORDON?

Gordon: THAT IS GOOD.

LET'S DO THAT.

LET'S TAKE A MINUTE.

WE'RE GOING TO PRAY FOR

CHARLESTON.

WE'RE GOING TO PRAY FOR

AMERICA.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PRAY

THAT THIS RACIAL DIVIDE

CLOSES.

SO WE'RE NOT KNOWN FOR OUR

RACIAL HATRED BUT WE'RE

KNOWN FOR OUR LOVE.

LORD, WE LIFT UP

CHARLESTON TO YOU, AND WE

LIFT UP THIS WONDERFUL

CHURCH.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR

THAT CHURCH, HOW IT IS A

SHINING EXAMPLE OF HOW

WE'RE MORE THAN

CONQUERERS, THROUGH THE

LOVE OF THE LORD.

ALL OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF

THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN

CHARLESTON, WE ASK THAT

THERE IS HEALING.

THAT THE THINGS THAT

DIVIDE WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY

AND BE REPLACED BY THE

LOVE, BY THE PEACE THAT

SURPASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING.

HEAL US, LORD.

AND NOW FOR AMERICA, WE

KEEP SEEING THE HORROR OF

RACISM.

WE KEEP SEEING THE HORROR

OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR

INNER CITIES, HOW DIVIDED

WE ARE.

LORD, ONLY YOU CAN BRING

US TOGETHER.

ONLY IN THE BODY OF CHRIST

CAN THERE BE NEITHER MALE

NOR FEMALE, JEW NOR GREEK,

SLAVE NOR FREE.

WE CAN ALL BE ONE.

LORD, HEAL US.

HEAL OUR LAND.

BRING PEACE.

BRING TRUE UNITY, TRUE

BROTHERHOOD.

TRUE LOVE.

AND DO IT NOW.

FOR WE ASK IT IN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

WELL, IF YOU WANT TO

COMMENT ON THIS, ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO IS GO TO OUR

Facebook PAGE.

WE HAVE A SECTION SET UP

FOR YOU THERE.

AS WE HAVE SEEN, CHURCHES

IN AMERICA HAVE BECOME

TARGETS, AND SOME ARE

SAYING IF WE AREN'T SAFE

AT CHURCH, WHERE ARE WE

SAFE?

AND THAT'S WHY MANY

CONGREGATIONS ARE DOUBLING

DOWN ON SECURITY.

CHUCK HOLTON HAS MORE.

Reporter: OF THE MANY

CHURCHES IN MEMPHIS,

TENNESSEE, THE LARGEST IS

BELLEVUE BAPTIST CHURCH.

FOUNDED IN 1903, IT HAS

SINCE GROWN IN MEMBERSHIP

TO ALMOST 30,000 PEOPLE.

ANDREANDY WILLIS HAS BEEN GIVEN

THE MONUMENTAL JOB OF

KEEPING THIS CONGREGATION

SAFE.

TODAY, CHURCHES THAT TEACH

THE TRUTH, THAT TEACH TRUE

BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, THEY

DRAW A LOT OF ATTENTION

BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF

COMPONENTS OF SOCIETY

TODAY THAT DON'T WANT TO

HEAR THAT.

WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY AGAINST

THAT.

AS A CHURCH SECURITY TEAM,

WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR

THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS

TO INTERVENE AND TO

PROTECT THE FLOCK.

Reporter: MORE THAN

100 PAID AND VOLUNTEER

SECURITY STAFF RESPOND TO

EVENTS EVERY WEEK.

TODAY WE'VE GOT TWO

UNCOVERS.

UNDERCOVERS -- YOU CAN SEE

THE ONE THERE.

Reporter: WORKING

QUIETLY BEHIND THE SCENE

TO SAFEGUARD THEIR

MEMBERS.

CHURCH IS THE PLACE TO

BRING YOUR ISSUES.

IN THE SECURITY

DEPARTMENT, IT IS OUR JOB

TO HAVE DISCERNMENT, TO

DETERMINE WHICH OF THOSE

ISSUES ARE DANGEROUS TO

OTHERS.

AND IF WE MAKE THAT

DETERMINATION, WHAT WE DO

IS WE TRY TO INTERVENE IN

A MEANINGFUL WAY, POINT

THEM AT THE RIGHT

RESOURCES TO HELP THEM.

Reporter: ONE OF THE

RESOURCES THAT HELP

BELLEVUE PREPARE IS CHURCH

SECURITY CONSULTANT TIM

MILLER.

IT COULD BE COMING FROM

HERE, RIGHT?

WHERE ELSE?

Reporter: A FORMER

SECRET SERVICE AGENT,

MILLER SAYS THE THREAT IS

RISING WORLDWIDE.

VIOLENCE AGAINST

CHRISTIANS IS RAMPID

AROUND THE WORLD.

IT HASN'T NECESSARILY

TOUCHED US AT THE LEVEL IT

HAS OTHER PLACES.

BUT IF WE THINK WE'RE

IMMUNE FROM THAT, WE'RE

SADLY MISTAKEN.

WE WILL BEGIN, AS A

NATION, TO BEGIN TO

EXPERIENCE THAT SAME LEVEL

OF VIOLENCE AND THAT SAME

METHODOLOGY IS COMING TO

THE UNITED STATES.

THE QUESTION FOR US IS:

ARE WE GOING TO BE

PREPARED TO ADDRESS IT?

IF YOU'RE GOING INTO A

PLACE WHERE BROKEN PEOPLE

ARE GOING TO BE MEETING

EVERY WEEK, BROKEN PEOPLE

LIKE ME, AND WE NEED TO BE

MINDFUL THAT SECURITY

WE'RE PROVIDING NEEDS TO

BE MINISTRY-BASED, BUT IT

NEEDS TO BE EVERY BIT AS

GOOD.

Reporter: THE CHURCH

I WENT TO AS A KID HAD

ONLY ABOUT 200 PEOPLE, AND

WE KNEW EVERYBODY WHO CAME

THROUGH THOSE DOORS.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A CHURCH

THIS SIZE, IT IS ALMOST

LIKE A CIVIC CENTER.

IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE THE

CHALLENGES THAT WOULD GO

WITH TRYING TO KEEP THES

MANTHISMANY PEOPLE SAFE.

A CAMERA SYSTEM

CONSTANTLY MONITORING

ACTIVITIES ON CAMPUS IS

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THEY'RE NOT VERY

EXPENSIVE.

AND THE THING THAT YOU GET

IS YOU GET THE PROTECTION

IN A LIABILITY ISLES THAT SITUATION

THAT YOU WON'T HAVE IF YOU

DON'T HAVE IT.

SECURITY IS MOSTLY WHAT

YOU DO NOT SEE.

THAT'S WHERE FOR PLACES

THAT HAVE LARGE GATHERINGS

OF PEOPLE, IT IS REALLY

IMPORTANT THEY HAVE A

PROFESSIONAL SECURITY TEAM

THAT IS HELPING THEM TO

PLAN AND ORGANIZE.

BECAUSE NO ORGANIZATION

HAD UNLIMITED RESOURCES.

Reporter: CHILDREN'S

PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE

ESPECIALLY VIGILANT.

AT BELLEVUE, A SYSTEM

PRINTS LABELS FOR EACH

KID.

A BIG PART OF CHURCH

SECURITY IS RESPONDING TO

ROUTINE MEDICAL

EMERGENCIES.

THE SECURITY TEAM INCLUDES

NURSE AND PARAMEDIC

SHELLEY TRIGG.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY

WITH THE SECURITY

DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE TRAINED TO TAKE A

TRAUMA BAG WITH US.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING HERE

FROM ASPIRIN TO A GUNSHOT

WOUND KIT.

Reporter: HEAVEN

FORBID THERE SHOULD BE A

TRAGEDY AT YOUR CHURCH,

BUT IF IT DOES HAPPEN, ONE

THING IS FOR SURE, SOON

AFTER THERE WILL BE

SATELLITE TRUCKS AND MEDIA

STANDING ON YOUR FRONT

LAWN.

HERE IS MY ADVICE: DON'T

KEEP THEM IN THE DARK.

DESIGNATE SOMEBODY TO COME

OUT AND GIVE THEM THE

INFORMATION YOU HAVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE

AWAY NAMES OR ANYTHING YOU

DON'T WANT TO, BUT IT IS

IMPORTANT YOU HAVE A PLAN

FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE

NEWS.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT

MAKES ME CRINGE WHENEVER I

SPEAK TO OTHER CHURCHES

ABOUT SECURITY, THEY WILL

SAY, WE DON'T HAVE

SECURITY.

WE'RE JUST PRAYING THAT

NOTHING HAPPENS.

WHEN I HEAR THAT, I

THINK -- IT'S LIKE MY SON

SAYING TO ME, HEY, I'VE

GOT A BIG TEST TOMORROW,

BUT GOD ALREADY KNOWS THE

GRADE I'M GOING TO GET, SO

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT UP

TO HIM.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO

UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE WE

ARE TO TRUST GOD, GOD HAS

A BIG PART FOR US TO PLAY

IN THIS PLAN.

AT THE END OF THE DAY,

THEY NEED TO MARRY FAITH

WITH WISDOM AND ACTION.

IT IS TIME FOR CHRISTIANS

TO BECOME EDUCATED ABOUT

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE

WORLD, TO BE PRAYERFUL,

AND THEN TO BE PREPARED.

AND THOSE THINGS WILL MAKE

A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT

BEGINS TO OCCUR.

Reporter: FROM

MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, I'M

CHUCK HOLTON FOR CBN NEWS.

Gordon: MY FATHER

ALWAYS TOLD ME, GOD GAVE

US A BRAIN FOR A REASON.

HE WANTS US TO USE IT.

BE SMART OUT THERE.

BUT DON'T ACT FROM A

SPIRIT OF FEAR.

ACT FROM A SPIRIT OF

BOLDNESS AND CONFIDENCE

THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT

COMES, JESUS CAN SEE YOU

THROUGH.

WE ARE MORE THAN

CONQUERERS, THROUGH THE

LOVE OF CHRIST GIVEN TO

US.

SO WE NEED TO ACT

RESPONSIBLY.

WE NEED TO ACT WITH

WISDOM.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ACT

OUT OF A SPIRIT OF LOVE.

WHEN YOU DO IT THAT WAY,

YOU'LL HAVE SUCCESS.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP

LATER, A DISGRUNTLED

EX-CONVICT WALKED INTO A

COUNTY MEETING AND OPENED

FIRE.

I REMEMBER IT JUST LIKE

IT WAS YESTERDAY, OKAY?

OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET

SHOT AND I'M PROBABLY

GOING TO DIE.

Terry: WATCH WHAT

HAPPENED NEXT, LATER ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

Terry: JANIE MONTAO

IS WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A

CAREER CRIMINAL.

HE SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME

IN AND OUT OF JAIL.

AND HE MIGHT HAVE DIED

THERE, TOO, UNTIL HE

WATCHED A PROGRAM PRODUCED

BY CBN.

Reporter: JAMIE

STARTED HIS LIFE OF CRIME

BY AGE 15.

BY THE TIME HE TURNED 40,

HE HAD BEEN INCARCERATED

EIGHT TIMES FOR SERIOUS

CRIMES.

NOW A POLICE STING CAUGHT

HIM AGAIN AND HE WAS

CHARGED WITH KIDNAPPING

AND SENT BACK TO JAIL.

THE FIRST DAY IN PRISON

WAS TERRIBLE.

I BEGAN TO CRY.

THE NEXT DAY I TRIED TO

HANG MYSELF.

I WAS DOING IT WHEN OTHER

PRISONERS CAME TO STOP ME.

Reporter: ONE MORNING

HE WATCHED A CBN PROGRAM

IN HIS CELL.

HE SAW THE STORY OF A MAN

MUCH LIKE HIMSELF AND

WONDERED IF GOD COULD

CHANGE HIM, TOO.

I SAID, GOD, THE SAME

PEACE YOU GAVE TO THIS

MAN, I BEG YOU, PLEASE

GIVE IT TO ME, TOO.

I FELT MY LIFE CHANGE AT

THAT MOMENT.

Reporter: BY THE END

OF THAT PROGRAM, HE

REMEMBERED THE PEOPLE FROM

THE "700 CLUB" PRAYER

CENTER WHO CAME TO VISIT

THE PRISON.

THAT WEEK JAMIE MET WITH

ONE OF THEM.

THIS COUNSELLOR TAUGHT

ME TO READ THE BIBLE AND

ALSO PAT ROBERTSON'S BOOK,

"ANSWERS."

Reporter: TODAY,

AFTER STUDYING AT A BIBLE

INSTITUTE, HE BECAME A

PASTOR AND IS BUILDING A

CHURCH THAT SEATS 5,000

PEOPLE.

I GIVE THANKS TO VIDA

DURA AND "700 CLUB."

GOD MADE ME SOMEONE HE CAN

USE FOR THIS GLORY.

Terry: JESUS CAME TO

SET THE CAPTIVES FREE.

THAT'S A MESSAGE WE

DECLARE TO ANYONE WHO IS

WATCHING.

ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING.

EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THIS

PROGRAM.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM

THIS STORY, WE'RE

DECLARING THAT IN NATIONS

AROUND THE WORLD EVERY

DAY.

HOW ARE WE ABLE TO DO

THAT?

BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

HAVE A HEART TO SEE THAT

MESSAGE DECLARED, TO SEE

PEOPLE SET FREE.

TO HAVE THEM FIND HOPE AND

A FUTURE.

THAT'S WHAT "700 CLUB"

MEMBERS ARE ALL ABOUT.

65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A

MONTH, MAKES YOU A "700

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WILL YOU JOIN WITH US AND

MAKE THAT KIND OF A

DIFFERENCE HERE AT HOME

AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

THAT TOLL-FREE NUMBER ON

YOUR SCREEN:

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JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN

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WE WELCOME YOU TO THE

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO

ARE OUT TO MAKE THIS KIND

OF DIFFERENCE.

WHEN YOU JOIN, OUR WAY OF

SAYING THANK YOU FOR

CARING ABOUT OTHERS, WE

WANT TO SEND YOU "THE

TRANSFORMING WORD."

IT IS A D.V.D. AND A C.D.,

AND WE THINK IT WILL BE A

GREAT BLESSING AND

ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU, AND

YOU'LL HAVE THE

SATISFACTION OF KNOWING

YOU'RE TRULY MAKING A

DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

YOU CALL NOW, AND WE'LL

GET IT OUT TO YOU RIGHT

AWAY.

> UP NEXT, A SCHOOL

BOARD IS TAKEN HOSTAGE BY

A GUNMAN WHO WANTED

REVENGE.

I COULD TELL BY HIS

EYES WHAT HE WAS GETTING

READY TO DO.

I KNEW HE WAS GETTING

READY TO SHOOT ME.

Terry: WATCH A

MIRACLE UNFOLD AT THIS

MEETING.

THAT'S NEXT.

Gordon: THE STORY

YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE

CONTAINS REAL FOOTAGE OF A

MAN WHO INTERRUPTED A

SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, TOOK

HOSTAGES, AND THEN STARTED

FIRING A GUN.

THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE

REMEMBER THAT DAY VIVIDLY,

NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE

SHOOTING, BUT BECAUSE OF

THE MIRACLES THAT HAPPENED

AFTER THE GUN WENT OFF.

Reporter: MIKE JONES

HAS A STERLING REPUTATION

IN THE COMMUNITY OF PANAMA

CITY, FLORIDA.

BUT ON DECEMBER 14th,

2010, HE BECAME KNOWN AS A

HERO.

MIKE WAS ON VACATION AND

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AT

THE SCHOOL BOARDMY MEETING BOARD MEETING

THAT DAY.

BUT HE WAS CALLED TO

ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND

CAME TO THE MEETING.

I CAME HERE TO THE

NELSON BUILDING.

WHEN I ARRIVE, THE MEETING

HAD ALREADY STARTED, AND I

WENT UPSTAIRS TO MY

OFFICE, TO CHECK IN.

IT WAS A NORMAL

MEETING.

WE'VE GOT TWO MEETINGS A

MONTH, AND WE WENT THROUGH

THE NORMAL RECOGNITIONS

PROCLAMATION AND DISMISSED

ALL OF THE KIDS.

Reporter: MINUTES

LATER, CLAY DUKE WALKED TO

THE FRONT OF OF THE ROOM.

HE WAS THE DISGRUNTLED

HUSBAND OF A SCHOOL BOARD

DISTRICT EMPLOYEE WHO HAD

BEEN FIRED.

HE STARTED SPRAY PAINT

OG AND THE WALL, AND IT

WASN'T UNTIL SHORTLY

AFTER, AND HE FINISHED

DRAWING THE "V", THAT WE

SAW THE HANDGUN.

THE NEXT SIX MINUTES OR SO

SEEMED LIKE FOREVER.

WHEN HE ASKED ALL OF

THE MALE BOARD MEMBERS AND

THE SUPERINTENDENT TO STAY

THERE AND EVERYONE TO

CLEAR OUT, THAT'S WHEN YOU

KNEW THIS WASN'T A DRILL.

THIS WASN'T FAKE.

THIS WAS PRETTY SERIOUS AT

THAT POINT.

I TELL PEOPLE, I'VE

NEVER SEEN EVIL LIKE THAT

IN SOMEONE'S EYES.

I WASN'T IN THE

BUILDING FIVE MINUTES AND

I GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF

THE PEOPLE WHO WATCHING

WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE

BOARD ROOM.

THEY SAID, THERE IS A MAN

IN THE BOARD ROOM WITH A

GUN.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THE

GUN WAS REAL.

PEOPLE WERE RUNNING

EVERYWHERE, RUNNING FOR

THEIR LIVES.

I OPENED THE DOOR TO LOOK

INSIDE, AND I WANTED TO

FIND OUT IF THAT WAS A

REAL OR PLAY GUN.

36 YEARS IN LAW

ENFORCEMENT, I SAID,

THAT'S A REAL GUN.

Reporter: ALTHOUGH

MIKE WAS ARMED, HE KNEW HE

COULDN'T COMPETE.

HE DECIDED TO RUN TO HIS

CAR FOR A LARGER GUN AND

AMMUNITION AND A

BULLET-PROOF VEST.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE

SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS

REMAINED ON THEIR FAITH TO

SUSTAIN THEM.

IN THAT POINT, IN MY

EYES, THE MOST POWERFUL

THING I COULD DO IS PRAY.

AS TENSE OF A SITUATION

IT WAS, YOU HAD PEACE AND

CALMNESS.

YOU HAD THE TWO

ADMINISTRATORS TALKING

THIS GUY DOWN.

AND YOU HAD EVERYBODY ELSE

IN THE ROOM THAT ALMOST ON

CUE WAS, LIKE, STAY

SILENT.

I WAS RIGHT HERE.

AND I REMEMBER IT JUST

LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY,

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO GET SHOT AND

I'M PROBABLY GOING TO DIE,

BUT I KNOW WHERE I'M

GOING.

I HAD A CALM COME OVER ME.

IT JUST GAVE ME PEACE.

Reporter: AT THAT

POINT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER

GINGER LITTLETON CAME BACK

INTO THE ROOM AND STEPPED

UP WITH AN UNFORGETTABLE

ACT OF BRAVERY.

HER ACTIONS MADE DUKE

SWITCH THE POSITION OF HIS

BODY, WHICH PUT THE DESK

BETWEEN HIM AND THE SCHOOL

BOARD MEMBERS.

IF MISS LITTLETON DID

NOT HIT THE GUY WITH THE

PURSE, THAT MADE HIM THINK

MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE ON

STAGE BECAUSE THERE IS A

WEAK POINT, I DON'T

BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE COME

OUT ALIVE.

I KNEW HE WAS GETTING

READY TO SHOOT ME.

Reporter: DUKE FIRED

AT THE SUPERINTENDENT AT

POINT-BLANK RANGE, BUT

INSTEAD OF STRIKING THE

SUPERINTENDENT, THE BULLET

STRUCK THE THREE-INCH

NOTEBOOK IN FRONT OF HIM.

JUST THREE INCHES SPARED

HIS LIFE.

IT HIT THE NOTEBOOK,

AND THE NOTEBOOK HIT ME,

AND I WENT TO THE GROUND.

I'M LAYING ON THE GROUND

THINKING, I KNOW I'M SHOT,

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS

SUPPOSED TO HURT MORE THAN

THAT.

I TELL PEOPLE, I KNEW GOD

WAS IN THE ROOM, I JUST

DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS

STANDING IN FRONT OF ME.

AS HE TURNED THIS WAY,

I FIRED MY FIRST SHOT AND

STRUCK HIM HERE.

AND I SHOT HIM AGAIN.

AS I SHOT HIM THE SECOND

TIME, HE SHOT AROUND AT

STEVEN MOSS, A SCHOOL

BOARD MEMBER.

Reporter: STEVE MOSS

WAS THE ONLY SCHOOL BOARD

MEMBER WHO DIDN'T DUCK

WHILE THE FIRST FEW ROUNDS

WERE FIRED.

HE WASN'T SURE WHAT KEPT

IN HIS CHAIR, BUT LOOKING

BACK, HE IS THANKFUL.

IF I HADN'T DOVE, I

WOULD HAVE DOVE RIGHT

HERE.

RIGHT HERE IS WHERE HIS

SECOND BULLET HIT, RIGHT

HERE, AND HIS THIRD BOOK

HIT UP HERE.

Reporter: DUKE FELL

TO THE FLOOR FROM THIS

WOUNDS, AND THAT'S WHEN HE

UNLOADED HIS GUN ON MIKE.

BECAUSE HE WAS LAYING

ON THE FLOOR, HIS BULLETS

ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH

THESE CHAIRS AND STRUCK

THE WALL WHERE I WAS

STANDING WHEN I FIRED MY

FIRST THREE ROUNDS.

AND THERE ARE FIVE

DOCUMENTED BULLETS THAT

HIT THE WALL BACK THERE.

AND IT WAS A PERFECT HALO

OF BULLETS AROUND MY HEAD

AND NONE OF THEM STRUCK

ME.

Reporter: DUKE

UNLOADED SEVERAL MORE

ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IN

MIKE'S DIRECTION BEFORE

TAKING HIS OWN LIFE.

WHEN THE SUPERINTENDENT

STOOD UP AND HE SAID,

MIKE, EVERYTHING IS OKAY,

BECAUSE I KNEW HE WAS

DEAD.

HOW DO YOU MISS A MAN

EIGHT OR 10 FEET AWAY,

WITH A GUN POINTED RIGHT

IN HIS FACE?

HOW DO YOU MISS HIM?

THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED GOD

HAD JUST WRAPPED HIS ARMS

AROUND ME.

AND THAT WAS WHEN I

REALIZED I WAS A VERY

BLESSED MAN.

YOU SEE THOSE SHOTS,

AND YOU SEE THAT PICTURE,

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY

MIND WHO WAS RUNNING THE

SHOW THAT DAY, AND WHO WAS

RUNNING MY LIFE.

Reporter: WITHIN

HOURS THE BAY COUNTY

SCHOOL BOARD INCIDENT WAS

IN THE CENTER OF NEWS.

IN FRONT OF THE NEWS, IT

WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD

MEMBERS WHO SHARED IT WAS

GOD WHO SAVED THEIR LIVES.

TODAY THEY STILL SERVE ON

THE SCHOOL BOARD.

IT HAD ME TO HAVE NO

DOUBT, WHEN I PUT MY FAITH

AND TRUST IN GOD, IT WILL

WORK OUT IN HIS GLORY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT BAD

THINGS DON'T HAPPEN TO

CHRISTIANS.

IT JUST MEANS THAT GOD

WILL BE THERE WITH YOU

WHEN BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

I TELL FOLKS, BE

PREPARED BECAUSE YOU

SIMPLY DON'T KNOW IF

TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE

THERE.

Reporter: A POLICE

REPORT THE NEXT YEAR

REVEALED THAT DUKE'S

SECOND SHOT WAS MEANT FOR

BOARD MEMBER RYAN LEAVES.

WE REALIZED WHEN HE

LIFTED BACK UP, HE PULLED

THE TRIGGER AGAIN AT ME

AND NOTHING HAPPENED.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A

PERSON THAT WAS INVOLVED

IN THAT SITUATION THAT

CAN'T SAY THAT SOMETHING

MIRACULOUS THAT HAPPENED,

AND THAT THERE WAS

SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM WITH

US THAT WAS PROTECTING US

THROUGH THE SITUATION.

Reporter: BECAUSE OF

THIS ACTIONS THAT DAY,

MIKE WAS GIVEN THE HIGHEST

AWARD GIVEN TO LAW

ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THE

CONGRESSIONAL BADGE OF

BRAVERY.

BUT HE SAYS THE GLORY

BELONGS TO ANOTHER.

HE USED ME FOR WHAT HE

NEEDED DONE THAT DAY, HE

GUIDED ME, AND I GIVE HIM

ALL OF THE GLORY FOR ME.

I'M NOT WYATT EARTH.

IT WAS ALL GOD'S DOINGS

THAT DAY.

Gordon: I'M NOT WYATT

WYATT.

I LOVE THAT.

GOD IS IN CONTROL OF EVERY

SITUATION.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE

CAUSES IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN HE IS THE

AUTHOR OF IT.

BUT HE IS ABLE TO WORK ALL

THINGS TOGETHER FOR YOUR

GOOD.

TO HAVE THAT, TO HAVE THAT

ASSURANCE THAT HE IS GOING

TO DO THAT FOR YOU, THAT'S

THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO GO

THROUGH LIFE.

DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO

GOOD PEOPLE?

YES.

IS THAT TOUGH TO WRAP YOUR

HEAD AROUND?

YES.

BUT WHAT IS WONDERFUL TO

WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND IS

THAT IF YOU KNOW HIM, YOU

WILL BE WITH HIM FOR ALL

ETERNITY.

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO

YOU ON THIS EARTH, YOU CAN

HAVE THE ASSURANCE THAT

YOU'LL BE WITH HIM.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT

TODAY AND YOU WANT TO GET

RIGHT WITH GOD, ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO IS CALL US.

THE NUMBER IS ON THE

SCREEN: 1-888-777-1999.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM PSALMS: "I WILL

SAY OF THE LORD, HE IS MY

REFUGE AND MY FORTRESS, MY

GOD.

IN HIM I WILL TRUST."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

Find Peace with God

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