Heidi Mund, an atheist-turned-Christian, has gained global notoriety for standing up to Islam's creeping influence in her homeland, Germany. Now she's revealing why.
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PAT: IN CASE YOU MISSED IT,
NEWS IS ISLAM IS ON THE MARCH
ACROSS EUROPE GAINING MORE POWER
AND INFLUENCE.
IN GERMANY, ONE CHRISTIAN WOMAN
HAS TAKEN A VERY PUBLIC STAND.
THAT WENT VIRAL ON YOUTUBE.
REPORTER: SHE BECAME KNOWN ON
THE INTERNET AS THE BRAVE GERMAN
WOMAN.
LAST YEAR WHEN THE IMAM TALKED
TO THE CHURCH.
SHE STOOD UP AND SAID JESUS
CHRIST, NOT ALLAH IS LORD OF
GERMANY.
SHE REPEATED THE WORDS OF MARTIN
LUTHER IN 1521 WHEN HE WAS
DEFENDING HIS BELIEF IN
SCRIPTURE, ALONE.
THE YOUTUBE VIDEO AND STORY
ABOUT HER BY CBN NEWS HAVE BOTH
GONE VIRAL ON THE INTERNET.
BY PUBLICALLY ATTACKING THE LIE
OF ISLAM, SHE HAS PLACED HER
LIFE AT RISK BECAUSE SHE IS A
BURDEN FOR THE SPIRITUAL REBIRTH
OF GERMANY.
PAT: JOINING US NOW ON OUR
SET IS THE BRAVE GERMAN WOMAN,
HEIDI MUND.
WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO MAKE THIS
STAND?
BECAUSE I HAVE TO DO IT, I AM
A CHRISTIAN AND HAVE TO STAND
UP.
PAT: YES.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN GERMANY, IS
ISLAM ENCROACHING?
IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE.
REALLY.
IT BECAME FAST INTO LAST YEAR.
PAT: YOU WENT INTO A CHURCH.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AN
INTERFAITH SERVICE WITH AN IMAM
LEADING THE SERVICE.
HE DIDN'T LEAD IT.
THEY INVITED HIM TO BE A PART OF
THE CONCERT.
A REAL ISLAM IMAM WHICH MEANS HE
IS A TEACHER OF ISLAM.
PAT: YOU USE THOSE GREAT
WORDS OF MARTIN LUTHER, I CAN'T
BE PERSUADED, DID YOU SAY THOSE
WORDS SPECIFICALLY?
I SAID THEM.
I READ THEM SOME MINUTES BEFORE.
THEY CAME TO MY MIND.
I KNOW IT WASN'T BY ACCIDENT.
PAT: WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM
YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS?
YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF PUBLICITY?
IT WAS STRANGE.
OUT OF THE WORLD, I GOT E-MAILS
AND ENCOURAGEMENTS.
ALSO FROM MY FELLOW BELIEVERS IN
GERMANY.
PAT: HOW STRONG IS THE CHURCH
IN GERMANY?
[LAUGHTER] DIFFICULT
QUESTION.
OUT OF MY POINT OF VIEW, THE
CHURCH IS WEAK.
WE ARE DOING SOME THINGS,
ESPECIALLY ON THE SEVENTH OF
MAY, WE ARE DOING INTERNATIONAL
JESUS MARCH THROUGH FRANKFORT IT
WILL BE THE SEVENTH TIME.
COME WITH US ON THE 17TH OF MAY
TO SHOW JESUS IS STRONG IN THE
STREETS OF FRANKFORT, GOD CALLS
ME TO HAVE A PRECHRISTIAN
UNIVERSITY IN GERMANY.
I AM STILL LOOKING FOR PARTNERS
TO TRAIN STRONG CHRISTIAN
LEADERS IN GERMANY.
ALSO A LICK OF CHRISTIAN
TEACHERS.
AND, PAT [LAUGHTER] --
PAT: YES.
WE WILL START A NEW PROGRAM,
A RADIO PROGRAM TO SPREAD THE
GOSPEL BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN
GERMANY NEED THE WORD OF GOD.
THEY NEED IT.
WE NEED A SPIRITUAL REBIRTH OF
GERMANY.
PAT: THIS WAS THE HOME OF
MARTIN LUTHER.
THIS WAS THE HOME OF ONE OF THE
GREAT THEOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES
IN THE WORLD.
YOU HAD A TRADITION THAT GOES
WAY BACK.
WHAT HAPPENED?
DID HITLER OBLITERATE THAT?
WHERE DID THE FAITH GO?
I THINK SEVERAL, SEVERAL
POINTS CAME TOGETHER.
EXCUSE ME, I THINK ALSO
INCLUDING THE AMERICANS, THEY
HAVE TO SORRY, FORGIVE ME, WE
DON'T HAVE AN IDENTITY, THE
GERMANS, WE HAVE A LACK OF
IDENTITY.
WE ARE NOT PROUD OF OUR FLAG AND
THANKFUL FOR OUR LAND, OUR
LANGUAGE.
THIS IS A REAL LACK, BECAUSE
WHEN WE DON'T LOVE OUR COUNTRY,
WE WILL NOT PROTECT IT.
WE HAVE TO PROTECT IT AT THE
MOMENT.
THE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO STAND UP.
ALSO THE OTHERS HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENS, IF WE
DON'T REALIZE IT AND RECOGNIZE
IT IN THE MOMENT, WE WILL LOSE
IT.
PAT: FORMER PRIME MINISTER
SCHROEDER WAS A BUDDY OF THE
RUSSIANS.
LOOKS LIKE PUTIN IS USING GAS TO
MANIPULATE EUROPE.
ANY THOUGHTS OF WHAT IS GOING ON
IN UKRAINE?
I GREW UP IN EAST GERMANY.
I DON'T TRUST HIM.
I ALSO DON'T TRUST THE EUROPEAN
UNION.
THEY PLAY A GAME.
WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THEM.
WHEN WE SEE THE EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES, WE SEE EVERYWHERE THE
SAME.
PEOPLE FROM THE LEFT CORNER,
THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER INCLUDING
ISLAM.
THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
I HAD JUST BEFORE I CAME TO
THESE MINUTES, I HAD A SONG ON
MY HARD.
AN ARMY IS RISING UP TO BREAK
EVERY CHAIN.
THIS IS THE MAIN THIN.
WE ARE CHRISTIANS, WE HAVE TO
STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS, FOR
TRUTH, FOR THE WORD OF GOD FOR
JESUS CHRIST.
THIS IS THE ANSWER.
YOU KNOW, PAT, THAT WE ARE THE
LIGHT.
WE ARE THE SALT OF THIS EARTH.
PAT: YOU ARE A VERY BRAVE
WOMAN.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
I THINK THE WHOLE CHRISTIAN
WORLD APPLAUDS YOU.
WE, OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU,
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU, PAT.
PAT: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
ONE COURAGEOUS PERSON, MARTIN
LUTHER HUNG UP THESIS AND SAID
HERE I STAND.
THIS LADY HEIDI IS STANDING.
STAND WITH HER, TERRY?
TERRY: UP NEXT, AMERICA'S
PHARMACIST, SUZY COHEN IS HERE
TO HELP THE HEADACHES GO AWAY
WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION.
SUZY JOINS US WHEN WE COME BACK.
PAT: MIGRAINES, THAT IS WHAT
SUZY COHEN CALLS TRIGGERS THAT
SET OFF MIND BLOWING HEADACHES.
HOW TO AVOID THE TRIGGERS
WITHOUT MEDICINE.
TAKE A LOOK.
BEST SELLING AUTHOR AND
PHARMACIST SUZY COHEN HAS SEEN
HEADACHES OF EVERY KIND UP
CLOSE.
HER HUSBAND SAM, SUFFERED SO
MUCH, HE HAD TO RETIRE AS A
CHIROPRACT
CHIROPRACTOR.
IT HAS TAKEN HER A DECADE TO
ALLEVIATE HEADACHES IN HER BOOK.
PAT: SHE IS MY FAVORITE
PHARMACIST AND WRITTEN "HEADACHE
FREE."
I LOVE THE LAST ONE ABOUT ALL
THE TERRIBLE THINGS, THE THIEVES
OR THE THEFTS.
DRUG MOUNGERS.
IT AFFECTS MILLIONS.
MOST UNDERSTAND THE HEADACHE IS
SOMETHING YOU TAKE PAIN RELIEVER
FOR.
VERY DIFFICULT TO TREAT.
THE MEDICATIONS WE USE FOR THEM
DON'T HELP THE UNDERLYING CAUSE
WHICH WE ARE NOW LEARNING HAS TO
DO WITH MOTORS OR BATTERIES DEEP
INSIDE THE CELL.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE BLOOD
VESSELS.
PAT: WHAT IS A MIGRAINE?
YOUR TECHNICAL DEFINITION?
YOUR MIGRAINE HAS A
NEUROLOGICAL COMPONENT.
IT HAS AN EFFECT IT CAN MAKE YOU
SENSITIVE TO SMELLS AND SOUNDS,
SOME PEOPLE SEE A HALO OR
FLASHING LIGHT.
SOME PEOPLE THROW UP.
IT CAN GO ON FOR DAYS.
HOURS FOR THE BIG PART BUT WILL
HAVE THE RESIDUAL PAIN.
PAT: YOU WOULD TAKE AN ADVIL
OR EXTRA STRENGTH EXCEDRIN,
THOSE THINGS HAVE A REVERSE
EFFECT.
IN SOME PEOPLE.
JUST RELIEVING THE PAIN
TEMPORARILY DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.
I ALWAYS ADVISE PEOPLE TO FIND
THE UNDERLYING CAUSE, FIND YOUR
MIGRAINEADE.
PAT: WHAT ARE SOME OF THEM?
DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE.
FOR SOME PEOPLE IT COULD BE GUM.
MOST GUM CONTAINS ARTIFICIAL
SWEETENERS, AND COLORS.
PAT: ASPARTAME CAN DEFINITELY
DO IT.
I AM AN ENEMY IN EVERY KIND.
ME, TOO.
PERFUME, 76% OF MIGRAINE
SUFFERERS WILL REACT TO PERFUME
WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR.
IT IS A NIGHTMARE IF YOU ARE A
MIGRAINE SUFFERER.
DRIED FRUIT.
IT CONTAINS SULFITE.
PAT: THAT IS TERRIBLE.
HERE IS A NICE SANDWICH.
DOUBLE TROUBLE ON THE
SANDWICH, DELI MEAT CAN CONTAIN
NITRITES.
BREAD HAS GLUTEN.
GLUTEN HAS POTENT NEUROLOGICAL
EFFECTS ON THE BODY.
PAT: NITRATES, HOT DOGS, THEY
ALL CAUSE?
IN SOME INDIVIDUALS.
JUST ELIMINATING THESE FROM YOUR
DIET, LAST IS SALAD DRESSING AND
BARBECUE SAUCE.
VINEGAR IS A MIGRAINEADE BECAUSE
IT RAISES HISTAMINE LEVELS.
WE ASSOCIATE IT WITH RUNY NOSE.
PAT: I THOUGHT VINEGAR WAS
GOOD FOR YOU.
NOT IF YOU ARE A MIGRAINE
SUFFERER.
PAT: THESE ARE THE GOOD
THINGS TO MY LEFT.
I LOVE SIMPLE.
SO A GLASS OF WATER.
IT IS SO SIMPLE, CHEAP.
PURE FILTERED WATER.
DEHYDRATION IS A KNOWN
MIGRAINEADE.
YOUR BLOOD VOLUME DROPS, THAT
REDUCES FLOW OF OXYGEN.
PAT: HOW MUCH WATER SHOULD
YOU DRINK?
SEVERAL FULL GLASSES, PURE
AND FILTERED.
PAT: I FILTER WATER.
WE DO, TOO.
PAT: WHY IS THAT, BY THE WAY?
PULLING OUT THE HEAVY METALS
AND TOXINS.
I AM NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF
FLUORIDE.
IT CAN ATTACK YOUR THYROID.
FROM YOUR TOOTH PASTE OR TAP
WATER.
LOW THYROID CAN CAUSE MIGRAINES.
50% OF MIGRAINE SUFFERERS ARE
DEFICIENT IN MAGNESIUM.
WHEN YOU SUPPLEMENT YOU RELAX
TENSE MUSCLES, FEED AND PROTECT
THE CELLS AND REDUCES YOUR
INCIDENCE OF NOT JUST PAIN.
[LAUGHTER].
PAT: LET'S MAKE THAT CLEAR.
HOW MUCH MAGNESIUM?
I WOULD 400-600 MILLION GRAMS
OF A DAILY DOSE.
I KNOW OUR VIEWERS ARE THINKING
MAGNESIUM CAUSES DIARRHEA.
THIS HAS MAGNESIUM MALLGINANT.
PAT: WHAT ARE THE OTHER
THINGS?
NEXT SUPPLEMENT IS
RIBOFLAVIN, VITAMIN B2.
IT IS A NATURAL DYE.
PAT: SHORTAGE OF B2, IT CAN
CAUSE CRACKS IN THE MOUTH.
YOU ARE SO SMART YOU KNOW
THAT.
[LAUGHTER].
THEY DON'T KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN
BY FEEDING AND NURTURING THE
MOTORS, BATTERIES THAT PRODUCE
ATP.
RIBOFLAVIN CAN REDUCE FREQUENCY
OF MIGRAINES, IT CAN REDUCE THE
FREQUENCY AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN
THAT.
NEXT SUPPLEMENT IS COURSETON,
RELATED TO VITAMIN C.
IT IS A NATURAL ANT HISTAMINE.
PAT: I TAKE THE RIBOFLAVIN
COMPLEX.
IF YOU HAVE MIGRAINES, TAKE A
LITTLE MORE.
PAT: I DON'T HAVE HEADACHES
AT ALL.
LUCKY YOU.
THEY ARE DEVASTATING.
WHEN MY HUSBAND HAD IT, IT
CHANGED OUR LIVES.
PAT: IN YOUR BOOK, YOUR
HUSBAND WAS SUFFERING, HE HAD TO
STOP HIS PRACTICE, TURNED OUT HE
HAD LIME DISEASE.
FOR HIM HIS HEADACHES WERE
TIED TO A TICK BITE.
UNTIL WE TREATED HIS INFECTION,
THE HEADACHES WOULDN'T STOP.
WE TRIED EVERYTHING,
PAINKILLERS, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE
THE BOX TREATMENT, ACUPUNCTURE,
EVERYTHING.
NOTHING REALLY CLEARED IT UNTIL
WE ADDRESSED THE INFECTION WHICH
IS AN UNDERLYING CAUSE.
LIME DISEASE IS RATHER EPIDEMIC.
IT IS HARD TO DIAGNOSE.
PAT: IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A YARD SPRAYED.
DEER COME IN.
THEY HAVE TICKS.
WE SO LOVINGLY SPRAY OUR
PETS?
THEY'LL JUMP OFF THE PET AND
WHERE DO THEY GO?
US.
[LAUGHTER].
IT IS VERY COMMON.
THEN LAST ON MY LIST IS A FIBER
SCRIPT.
A SUPPLEMENT I FORMULATED.
I MADE THAT.
IT PROTECTS THYROID GLAND FROM
GLUTEN AND DAIRY.
WHEN YOU OPTIMIZE YOUR THYROID
LEVELS, MIGRAINES WILL
DISSIPATE.
PAT: WHAT ABOUT GLUTEN
SENSITIVITY IS A BIG DEAL IN
MAKING PEOPLE FAT, SICK?
IT CAN.
GLUTEN CAN EFFECT PEOPLE WHETHER
THEY HAVE CELIAC OR NOT.
IT IS SOME WHAT ADDICTIVE.
IT IS JUST GLUE.
I OFTEN SUGGEST FOR PEOPLE TO GO
GLUTEN FREE, AND COMPLETELY
GRAIN AND DAIRY FREE.
THEIR LIFE CAN CHANGE.
PAT: WHAT ELSE IS LEFT?
PAPER.
PAPER AND WATER.
[LAUGHTER].
HONESTLY, CLEAN GRASS FED MEAT
AND NUTS AND SEEDS.
IT IS AN ADDITIVE.
WE HAVE TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY
LIKE MSG.
PAT: I STOPPED EATING AT
OLIVE GARDEN, BECAUSE I AM SURE
THEY PUT MSG IN THE FOOD, YOU
FEEL DIZZY AND SLEEPY.
I WOULD AVOID THE BREAD AND
THE SAUCE, YUMMY DELICIOUS.
I DON'T EAT THE PASTA.
PAT: DON'T THEY PUT MSG IN
THE FOOD?
YOU'LL FIND IT IN CHINESE
FOOD UNLESS THEY DON'T INCLUDE
IT.
MSG IS ANOTHER MIGRAINEADE.
WHAT OUR VIEWERS CAN DO IS ONE
HAVE HOPE, IF SAM COULD DO IT
AFTER YEARS OF SUFFERING.
HE HAS LIVED HEADACHE FREE FOR
SEVEN YEARS.
HE ONLY GETS ONE WHEN I NAG HIM.
[LAUGHTER].
PAT: A NAGGING WIFE IS ONE OF
THOSE MICRO TRIGGERS.
I AM A MIGRAINEADE.
PAT: WE SHOWED SOUP AND
PROGRESSIVE, WE PUT THE LABELS
ON MSG.
ALL THE SUDDEN THEY BEGAN
ADVERTISING.
PEOPLE PROBABLY AVOIDED THEIR
SOUP.
DISCOVERING YOUR MIGRAINEADE IS
HUGE.
PAT: WHAT ABOUT THIS GLUTEN
STUFF?
MOST BREADS HAVE GLUTEN.
VERY, VERY HARD TO FIND GLUTEN
FREE BREAD IN RESTAURANT OUT
BACK AND CABARABS HAVE SOME.
I PUT THEM IN MY PURSE.
PAT: DO THE MANUFACTURERS
UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE DOES THIS
CAUSE?
NOT JUST HEADACHES?
IT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF
NEUROLOGICAL DISTURBS --
DISTURBANCES, UNNORMAL GATE.
STUMBLING INTO THINGS.
PROBIOTICS WILL NOT OFFSET THE
GLUTEN.
GO OFF THE GLUTEN AND DAIRY,
TAKE PROBIOTICS AND ENZYMES.
PAT: YOU ARE TALKING CHEESE,
MILK?
WANT ME TO LEAVE NOW?
SO SORRY.
PAT: SWISS IS GOING TO RISE
UP AGAINST YOU.
SINUS HEADACHES, GO DAIRY
FREE.
PAT: IT IS MORE SCIENTIFIC
THAN THE OTHER BOOK.
YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF SCIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
UP.
IT IS A COMPLEX BOOK.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A LOT
OF BOOKS ON AMAZON THAT ADDRESS
HEADACHES.
THEY HAVE TO COME TO MY WEBSITE.
SUZY COHEN.COM.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A LOT
OF BOOKS ON HEADACHES.
THEY ARE HARD TO TACKLE, THE --
THEY AREN'T ALWAYS TO DO WITH A
CHANGE IN BRAIN CHEMISTRY, NOT
ALWAYS TO DO WITH A CHANGE OF
BLOOD VESSELS AROUND THE HEAD.
IT GOES MUCH DEEPER INTO THE
MITOCHONDRIA, THOSE ARE SICK AND
DYING BECAUSE OF MIGRAINEADE.
WHEN YOU CLEAR IT UP, BATTERIES
OF THE CELL WILL GET HEALTHY.
PAT: MITOCHONDRIA WILL BE
RESET BECAUSE OF THIS?
YES.
PAT: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT
IS AN INTERESTING BOOK.
IF YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS,
LYING ON THE SOFA WITH A COLD
COMPRESS.
THEY ARE SOLD OUT ON AMAZON.
I SOLD OUT.
LEAVE ME A NICE REVIEW.
THIS GOES AGAINST THE MEDICAL
SYSTEM.
THEY WANT TO PRESCRIBE ADDICTIVE
ANALGESICS.
I AM SAYING THAT IS NOT THE
ANSWER.
PAT: YOU ARE TERRIFIC.
SUZY COHEN, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN.
SO POPULAR AND SOLD OUT ON
AMAZON.
I AM SURE AMAZON IS GOING TO
RESTOCK BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE
MAKE THE MONEY.
THAT IS TRUE.
THEY TAKE A BIG CHUNK.
PAT: ALL RIGHT.
TERRY?
TERRY: YOUR E-MAIL
QUESTIONS, PAULA SAYS MY HUSBAND
WALKED OUT ON ME AND OUR TWO
CHILDREN 13 YEARS AGO.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND TRUSTING
GOD TO BRING THE RIGHT MAN INTO
OUR LIVES, ANY ADVISE FOR A
LONELY AND DISCOURAGED LADY?
WHAT PAT HAS TO SAY NEXT.
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MARRIAGE AND REFERS TO ISSUE.
THEY MUST PLEDGE TO STAY ABSTIN
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HOPES THE CHANGE KEEPS FOCUS ON
THE OUTREACH TO POOR AND AVOID
CONTROVERSY.
THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD SUSPECTS ON
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600 WERE FOUND GUILTY AND
SENTENCED TO DEATH.
SENTENCES STEM FROM VIOLENT --
MANY OF THE SENTENCES WILL BE
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EXPERTS SAY THE GOVERNMENT'S
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THERE ISN'T A DAY THAT GOES BY
THAT HE DOESN'T TEACH ME
SOMETHING.
AND HIS FAITH ON "THE 700
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THE CLUB IS A GREAT BENEFIT.
IN THE END YOU WIND UP FOR THE
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PAT: THEY ARE SO WELL DONE.
VERY EXPENSIVE.
VERY WELL PRODUCED.
TERRY: BEAUTIFULLY DONE.
PATTED PAT THE CHILDREN LOVE IT.
TERRY: THIS IS PAULA, MY
HUSBAND WALKED OUT ON ME AND OUR
TWO CHILDREN 13 YEARS AGO.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND TRUSTING
GOD TO BRING THE RIGHT MAN INTO
OUR LIVES.
AFTER ALL THIS TIME, I AM
WORRIED I MISSED GOD AND OUR
BEST YEARS ARE BEHIND ME, ANY
WORDS FOR A LONELY AND
DISCOURAGED LADY?
PAT: THE BEST YEARS AREN'T
BEHIND YOU.
IF YOU WANT A FISH, GO WHERE THE
FISH ARE.
TERRY: VERY BIBLICAL.
GO TO THE SAHARAN DESERT, YOU
WON'T GET A FISH.
THERE ARE CHURCH GROUPS AND
OTHER PLACES, ORGANIZED MIXES
WHERE PEOPLE SHARE YOUR POINT OF
VIEW AND FAITH.
GOD HAS SOMEBODY FOR YOU.
TERRY: THIS IS NATE, IN THE
BIBLICAL ACCOUNT, THEY SOLD THE
PROPERTY, THEY KEPT MONEY FOR
THEMSELVES.
PETER SAYS THEY LIEED TO THE
HOLY SPIRIT, BOTH DIED.
LATER WHEN SIMON SAW THE SPIRIT
WAS GIVEN AT THE LAYING ON OF
THE APOSTLES' HANDS.
HE DIDN'T DIE.
SIMON WASN'T A DISCIPLE.
AT THE INCEPTION OF THE CHURCH,
THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE
CHURCH.
IMPURITY COME INTO THE BEGINNING
WILL SPREAD LIKE A CANCER.
LATER ON WHEN THE CHURCH IS
FORMED AND OPERATING AND RUN
INTO A FORTUNE TELLER.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT MATTER.
THE HARSHNESS CAME SO THE EARLY
CHRISTIANS KNOW YOU CANNOT LIE
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.
YOU CANNOT USE DECEPTION IN THE
VERY BEGINNING OF THIS CHURCH,
IT CAN'T HAVE THAT EVIL SPIRIT.
IT SEEMED HARSH.
HE DROPPED DEAD.
PETER USED THE STATEMENT, FEET
OF THOSE WHO CARRIED YOUR
HUSBAND OUT ARE AT THE DOOR
WAITING FOR YOUR, BANG.
THEY HAD A CHANCE.
TERRY: THEY LIED, SIMON WAS
READY TO PAY FOR IT IF HE COULD
GET IT.
PAT: THAT'S RIGHT.
TERRY: THERE WAS A DECEPTION
TO GOD.
AMANDA SAYS I WAS WONDERING IF
THE -- IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IS
GOING ON?
PAT: IT IS BIBLICAL, IT IS IN
REVOLUTION.
ISRAEL HAS A TIME CLOCK.
CHAOS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WOULD
BE AGAINST ISRAEL FULFILLING
PROPHESY AND NOT NECESSARILY
EVERY WORD IN REVELATION, BUT IN
TERMS OF PROPHESIES LIKE
ZECHARIAH AND OTHERS.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THE NATIONS OF
THE EARTH ARE JOINING AGAINST
ISRAEL AND BIBLICAL WHAT IS
HAPPENING IS SETTING UP GOD'S
PLAN AND PURPOSES.
TERRY: I KNOW DOCTORS ARE
PART OF GOD'S HEALING MIRACLES,
I HAVE BEEN TRUSTING GOD FOR
HEALING IN MY HIP.
I AM 69 YEARS OLD.
I NEED A CREATIVE MIRACLE.
I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DREAMS ABOUT
BEING ABLE TO WALK.
THE PAIN INTERFERES WITH MY
FAITH.
DO YOU HAVE INSIGHT?
PAT: YOU KNOW, YOU SAID GOD
USES DOCTORS, HE DOES.
I HAD A DETERIORATING KNEE, SO
BAD I COULD HARDLY WALK.
I HAD BEEN JOGGING A LONG TIME
AND HIP JOINTS ARE A SAME THING,
IT IS A JOINT.
YOU ARE ASKING FOR A CREATIVE
MIRACLE.
YOU ARE ASKING GOD TO REFORM
THAT.
I WENT TO A MAN IN CHICAGO
RICHARD BURGER.
HE IS ABSOLUTELY THE FINEST KNEE
AND HIP MAN IN THE COUNTRY, I
THINK.
HE IS INCREDIBLE.
WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.
VERY SKILLED.
HE COULD GIVE YOU A NEW HIP
JOINT IN A MATTER OF AN HOUR OR
SO.
FOR ME, I WAS WALKING UP STAIRS
WITH MY NEW KNEE.
TERRY: THEY GET YOU RIGHT
UP.
PAT: USED TO TAKE FIVE OR SIX
MONTHS, I WAS RIDING A HORSE
SEVEN DAYS AFTER SURGERY.
TERRY: WOW.
PAT: THEY CAN DO THAT.
WHY SUFFER?
YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF
YOU.
THAT IS ONE.
OTHERS WHO DO THIS KIND OF WORK.
HE PROBABLY IS AS GOOD AS THEY
COME.
RICHARD BURGER.
HE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET
PATIENTS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO
DO WITH.
HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN AND
EXTREMELY SKILLED.
TERRY: THAT IS ALL THE TIME
WE HAVE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
ASHLEY CLEVELAND HAS PERFORMED
WITH JOE COCKER, AND STEVE
WINDWOOD.
FOR MANY YEARS, ASHLEY FELT LIKE
THE BLACK SHEEP OF HER FAMILY.
THREE TIME GRAMMY AWARD
WINNER, ASHLEY CLEVELAND, HER
LATEST PROJECT ISN'T SET TO
MUSIC, HER BOOK "LITTLE BLACK
SHEEP"
WHEN SHE WAS IN KINDERGARTEN,
HER PARENTS DIVORCED.
WHEN MY FATHER LEFT, THEIR
LAST ALTERCATION WAS OVER
SOMETHING I HAD DONE JUST
MISCHIEF.
WHEN HE LEFT, HE NEVER CAME
BACK.
ASHLEY'S VIEW OF GOD BROUGHT
HER NO COMFORT.
HE WAS FAIRLY DISTANT AND
EXTREMELY PERFORMANCE ORIENTED.
IN HER TEENS, ASHLEY TRIED TO
BURY HER INSECURITIES WITH
REBELLION.
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
GOOD, I CAN BE EXCELLENT AT
BEING BAD.
EVENTUALLY, ALCOHOL STARTED
TO APPEAL TO ASHLEY.
I DO NOT REMEMBER MY FIRST
DRINK.
I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE FEELING.
SO MUCH OF THE FEARFULNESS AND
AWKWARDNESS ABOUT THE WAY I WAS
BOTH OUTWARDLY AND INWARDLY
DISAPPEARED.
BY HER MID 20S, ASHLEY WAS A
FULL-FLEDGED ALCOHOL AND DRUG
USER.
I WOULD GO FOR A WHILE,
MANAGE IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND
EVENTUALLY, INEVITABLY I WOULD
GO WAY TOO FAR AND DOMINOS WOULD
FALL IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND
THE CYCLE WOULD BEGIN AGAIN.
HER LIFE STYLE CAME TO A
HALT.
WHEN SHE WAS 24 YEARS OLD, SHE
DISCOVERED SHE WAS PREGNANT.
I DECIDED TO COBBLE TOGETHER
SOME SORT OF A SOBRIETY.
I STILL HAD HORRIBLE -- I KNEW I
COULD DO DAMAGE TO THE FETUS.
ALL THE FEARS I HAD ABOUT WHAT
GOD MIGHT THINK OF ME AND HOW HE
MIGHT REACT TO ME WERE VERY
PRESENT FOR ME.
NINE MONTHS LATER, ASHLEY
DELIVERED A PERFECTLY HEALTHY
BABY GIRL.
THERE ARE MOMENTS I
ENCOUNTERED WITH GOD SO PALABLE
AND DEEP THAT THE MOLECULES
CHANGE.
IT WAS LIKE THE SPIRIT OF THE
LORD INHABITED THAT ROOM AND
PULLED BACK THIS INVISIBLE
CURTAIN AND SAID TO ME, I AM NOT
WHO YOU THINK I AM.
AND I THOUGHT, BOY, NO KIDDING.
BUT IN THAT MOMENT, I KNEW ONE
THING, THAT ONE THING CHANGED
EVERYTHING.
I KNEW HE LOVED ME.
THAT WAS REALLY THE BEGINNING OF
FAITH.
LITTLE BY LITTLE SHE
COMFORTED HER ADDICTION WITH THE
HELP OF PROGRAMS AND HER NEW
FAITH.
GOD GAVE HER THE ONE INGREDIENT
TO KEEP HER MOVING FORWARD.
FIRST THING THAT HAPPENED
THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF
EVERYTHING WAS THE WILLINGNESS
THAT I ASKED FOR.
GOD GAVE ME.
IT WASN'T JUST A WILLINGNESS TO
GIVE HIM THE DRINK, IT WAS THE
WILLINGNESS TO NOT BE IN CHARGE
OF MY OWN LIFE.
NOT ONCE DID I LIVE THAT INITIAL
FEELING THAT I HAD IN THE
HOSPITAL THAT THERE WAS A GOD
THAT HE KNEW MY NAME AND LOVED
ME.
TODAY ASHLEY HAS BEEN SOBER
OVER 15 YEARS.
SHE IS MARRIED TO GUITARIST
KENNY BERG AND HAD THREE
CHILDREN.
I WOULD SAY COME TO JESUS.
IF YOU COME TO CHRIST, REALLY,
YOU CAN'T COME AND NOT BE
CHANGED.
TERRY: ASHLEY IS TALKING
ABOUT SURRENDER IN HER LIFE.
LETTING GO OF HAVING TO CONTROL
HER LIFE AND CIRCUMSTANCES.
SHE IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE
LOVE OF A FATHER BEYOND ANYTHING
YOU COULD ASK FOR OR IMAGINE.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN LIFE,
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SURRENDERED
YOURSELF TO OR WHAT HAS WOUNDED
YOUR HEART, THERE IS ALWAYS
HOPE.
JESUS LOVES YOU BEYOND WHAT YOU
CAN ASK OR IMAGINE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRAY WITH
SOMEONE, THERE IS A NUMBER TO
CALL, 1-800-759-0700.
CALL TODAY.
SAY I WOULD LIKE TO PRAY THE
SAME PRAYER ASHLEY PRAYED.
ASK FOR THIS BROCHURE CALLED
"FREE IN DEED."
THIS TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BE
SET FREE.
CALL NOW.
PAT?
PAT: MARVELOUS.
MARVELOUS.
WELL, WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S
POWER MINUTE FROM PSALM 145: HE
WILL FULFILL THE DESIRE OF THOSE
WHO FEAR HIM.
HE ALSO WILL HEAR THEIR CRY AND
SAVE THEM.
THE LORD PRESERVES ALL WHO LOVE
HIM.
WHAT A GREAT PROMISE.
TOMORROW SCOTT ROSS TAKES YOU
BEHIND THE SCENES OF "AMERICAN
IDOL" WITH HARRY CONICK
JR. DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT ONE,
BYE-BYE.