Britain's Tommy Robinson has long been labeled a bigot for his stance against radical Islam. While his sudden departure from the English Defence League shocked some, it shouldn't be mistaken for surrender.
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Reporter: FOR YEARS, HE
HAS BEEN BRITAIN'S BAD BOY.
A HERO TO MANY, THE LEFT IN
BRITAIN LABELLED HIM A
RACIST AND A NAZI.
HE IS STEVEN LENNON, ALSO
KNOWN A TOMMY ROBINSON,
FORMER HEAD OF THE ENGLISH
DEFENSE LEAGUE.
TOMMY ROBINSON WAS A
PSEUDONYM HE ADOPTED IN THE
EARLY DAYS OF THE GROUP,
WHEN IT WAS RISKY TO BE A
MEMBER.
I INTERVIEWED LENNON BEFORE
HE SHOCKED BRITAIN LAST
MONTH BY ANNOUNCING HE WAS
LEAVING THE ENGLISH DEFENSE
LEAGUE.
IT BEGAN IN THE WORKING
CLASS OF LUTEN IN 2009, WHEN
MILITANT MUSLIMS PROTESTED
AGAINST BRITISH SOLDIERS
RETURNING FROM IRAQ.
FROM THERE IT GREW TO BECOME
A SELF-STYLED DEFENDER OF
DEMOCRACY, AGAINST THE
SPREAD OF RADICAL ISLAM IN
BRITAIN.
THE E.D.O. WAS ABLE TO TURN
UP THOUSANDS OF
DEMONSTRATORS, TOUGH MEN
FROM THE WORKING CLASS.
YOU HAVE SOME ROUGH,
ROUGH-LOOKING GUYS IN YOUR
DEMONSTRATIONS?
OF COURSE.
IT WAS NEVER GOBEIN GOING
TO BE DOCTORS AND NURSES TO
STAND UP TO ISLAM ON THE
STREETS OF THIS COUNTRY.
WHEN WE FIRST FORMED, THE
RESPONSE AGAINST US WAS A
VERY VIOLENT RESPONSE FROM
MEMBERS OF THE ISLAMIC
COMMUNITY.
AND IMAGES WERE SENT ACROSS
THIS COUNTRY OF OUR
SUPPORTERS ON THE FLOORS
GETTING OUR HEADS KICKED
IN.
WHEN WE WENT TO OUR NEXT
DEMONSTRATION, HOW MANY
30-YEAR-OLD SCHOOL TEACHERS
ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND
OPPOSE MEN OF ISLAM.
THE SAME MEN ARE WILLING TO
PROTECT THEIR OWN.
Reporter: BUT AFTER
YEARS OF TRYING TO KEEP
EXTREMISTS AND NAZIS OUT OF
THE E.D.O., LENNON FINALLY
THREW IN THE TOWEL AND LEFT,
AS HE EXPLAINED ON B.B.C.'S
PROGRAM.
WE BATTLED FOR FOUR YEARS
TO KEEP EXTREMISTS AND NAZIS
OUT OF THIS MOVEMENT.
AND THEY WERE INVITED BACK.
AND THE PEOPLE IN THE
ORGANIZATIONS, THE SAME
PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING ME A
TRADER NOW, INVITED TO STAND
AGAINST THEM ON THE STREET.
ONE OF MY DEFENCES IS
KNOCKING OUT ONE OF THESE
NAZIS.
SURELY THERE COMES A TIME IN
ANY ORGANIZATION WHEN WE
FORM A NATIONALISTIC
ORGANIZATION.
IT ATTRACTED THE WRONG
SOURCE, AS WELL AS THE RIGHT
SOURCE.
AND IT TOOK US YEARS OF
BATTLING THESE NAZIS TO GET
RID OF THEM, TO LET THEM
KNOW WE FULLY SUPPORT
ISRAEL.
Reporter: THE OTHER
CHARGE AGAINST LENNON THAT
HE HEARS OVER AND OVER IS
HOW HE IS A RACIST.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW I'M A
RACIST.
THEY COULDN'T EXPLAIN.
BECAUSE YOU ARE.
I'M NOT ONE BECAUSE YOU SAY
I'M ONE.
ANYONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT
OPINION OF YOU IS A RACIST
OR BIGGOT.
AND PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN
ALLOWED TO SAY HOW THEY FEEL
BECAUSE YOUR A RACIST.
AND IF YOU'RE A RACIST, YOU
LOSE YOUR JOB.
MY GOD DAUGHTER IS BLACK AND
MY NIECE IS MIXED RACE.
Reporter: LENNON WARNS
THAT BRITISH AUTHORITIES ARE
CREATING THE CONDITIONS FOR
CIVIL WAR BY BOTH ALLOWING
THE SPREAD OF RADICAL ISLAM
AND RESTRICTING FREEDOM OF
SPEECH TO CRITICIZE AND
PROTEST AGAINST IT.
SO WE HAVE THIS DEMOCRACY
WHERE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS
HAVE BEEN GIVEN 10 YEARS NOT
TO PROTEST ABOUT ISLAM.
REALLY?
THIS IS THE LAND OF
DEMOCRACY.
IF YOU WERE TO DISCUSS WHAT
IS HAPPENING IN THIS
COUNTRY, WHAT ARE YOU
SUPPOSED TO DO.
WHEN YOU'RE ANGRY, YOU
CHANNEL THAT FRUSTRATION
THROUGH PEACEFUL PROTEST.
YOU TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY
FROM PEOPLE, WHAT ARE THEY
GOING TO DO?
THEY'RE GOING TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING
MONSTERS.
THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A
WAR IN THIS COUNTRY.
BUT I SEE IT BECAUSE OF THE
WAY THE COUNTRY IS GOING.
THE BRITISH PEOPLE ARE NOT
GOING TO SIT BACK AND TAKE
MUCH MORE.
Reporter: EVEN THOUGH
HE HAS LEFT THE E.D.O.,
LENNON SAYS IT HASN'T
CHANGED HIS OPINION, THAT
RADICAL ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST
THREAT BRITAIN FACES.
PREVIOUS LEADERS HAVE
SAID THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN
PEACE ON HIS EARTH AS LONG
AS THERE IS QURAN.
AND THEN CAMERON, HE SAID
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF
PEACE.
WHAT HAS CHANGED?
BECAUSE THE BOOK HASN'T
CHANGED.
Reporter: NOW THAT THE
MAN KNOWN AS TOMMY ROBINSON
HAS LEFT THE E.D.O., THERE
ARE FEARS IT COULD SPLINTER
AND BECOME WHAT IT HAS
ALWAYS BEEN ACCUSED OF
BEING, WHITE SUPREMEISTS.
LENNON SAYS HE HAS CHOSEN A
NEW STRATEGY, WORKING WITH
MODERATE MUSLIMS, IN THE
HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL LISTEN
TO HIS MESSAGE.
AND STEVEN LENNON STILL
LIVES EVERY DAY UNDER A
DEATH THREAT.
I'M MORE SCARED OF THE
DEATH THREATS, AND PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO KILL ME -- OF
COURSE I AM.
I WOULDN'T BE HUMAN IF I
WASN'T.
BUT I'M TERRIFIED FOR THE
ENTIRE NEXT GENERATION OF
THIS COUNTRY, AND THIS
COUNTRY'S HISTORY, ITS
CULTURE, IT'S IDENTITY.
IT'S ALL UNDER ATTACK.
Reporter: DALE HURD,
CBN NEWS, IN LUTEN,
ENGLAND.