TODAY CBN IS CELEBRATING 52

YEARS OF TELEVISION

BROADCASTING.

AND FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES

OF THAT TIME THERE WAS A MAN

WHO CAME TO US.

HE WAS FROM CALENE, TEXAS,

AND HE WAS RUNNING A DRUG

REHAB PROGRAM DOWN THERE,

AND HAND TO MOUTH, AND HE

SAT WITH US, AND THE NEXT

THING YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE

ALTERNATE HOST OF THIS

PROGRAM, AND THEN COHOST,

AND HE WAS HERE AS A DEAR

FRIEND FOR DECADES.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BEN KINCHLOW

IS KNOWN AROUND THE WORLD AS

A LONG-TIME COHOST OF "THE

700 CLUB."

FOR 17 YEARS HE CAPTIVATED

AUDIENCES WITH HIS

CONTAGIOUS LAUGHTER AND

CHARMING PERSONALITY.

I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Reporter: HE FIRST

APPEARED ON "THE 700 CLUB"

IN 1971, WHEN HE WAS THE

DIRECTOR OF A DRUG AND

REHABILITATION CENTER.

HE LATER JOINED CBN AS THE

DIRECTOR OF COUNSELLING, AND

IN 1975, HE JOINED PAT AS

COHOST OF "THE 700 CLUB."

AFTER LEAVING CBN IN 1996,

BEN BEGAN HIS OWN MINISTRY,

SERVING AS A HUMANITARIAN,

MINISTER, AND POLITICAL

AWARENESS ACTIVIST.

Pat: WELL, WE HAD A

COHOSTESS NAMED SODERMAN,

AND SHE SAID, IT IS THE

BLONDE, THE BLACK, AND THE

BAPTIST.

BEN KINCHLOW.

AS LONG AS I'M NOT THE

BAPTIST.

Pat: HEY, YOU'RE

LOOKING GOOD, BROTHER.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

YOU'VE STILL GOT THIS THING

HERE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS

BIBLE HAS BEEN HERE FOR,

WHAT, 40 YEARS?

THIS THING IS STILL HERE.

IT HASN'T CHANGED A BIT.

AND YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED A

BIT.

Pat: AND YOU LOOK

GOOD.

THANKS TO THE MAKEUP TEAM

BACK THERE.

THEY CAN MAKE ME LOOK GOOD.

Pat: I REMEMBER YOU

WERE IN CALENE, TEXAS, AND

YOU WERE ON A PIG FARM WITH

A BUNCH OF DRUG ADDICTS.

YES -- IT WASN'T A PIG

FARM.

IT WAS KLED CHRISTIAN FARMS,

CALLED CHRISTIAN FARMS, AND

I GOT A CALL FROM A CLUB I

NEVER HEARD ABOUT, CALLED

"THE 700 CLUB."

AND HERE WAS THIS GUY NAMED

DR. PAT ROBERTSON.

AND THE GUY TALKED TO ME

LIKE HE WAS REALLY

INTERESTED IN WHAT I HAD TO

SAY.

Pat: YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

BE.

I KNOW, BUT YOU REALLY

DID THAT.

AND I THOUGHT, WOW.

SO A FEW MONTHS LATER, ABOUT

60 DAYS LATER THEY CALLED ME

UP, A LADY NAMED RUTH

ECKHARD CALLED ME AND SHE

SAID, WOULD YOU COME AND

HELP PAT ROBERTSON DO "THE

700 CLUB."

IT WAS YOU, AND A GUY NAMED

HENRY HARRISON, AND THERE

WAS A THIRD GUY OVER IN THE

PHONE BANK.

SO ONCE OR TWICE AND THE

TWO-HOUR SHOW YOU WOULD SAY

LET'S GO OVER TO OUR

PHONES.

AND I WOULD DO THAT.

THEY CALLED ME TO PORTLAND,

VIRGINIA.

THAT WAS A BIG STUDIO.

LIGHTS, CAMERA, ACTION, LIVE

AUDIENCE, AND I'M OVER HERE

SHAKING HANDS WITH THE

COUNSELLORS, GOING WHAT'S

HAPPENING.

AND THE FLOOR DIRECTOR WAS

SAYING, MR. KINCHLOW, WE'VE

GOT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES,

WOULD YOU TAKE YOUR PLACE.

SO I SAT DOWN IN THE GUEST

CHAIR AND I WAS WAVING TO

THE AUDIENCE.

AND HE FINALLY SAID,

MR. KIN-LOWCHLOW, WE'VE GOT

TWO MINUTES TO AIR, WOULD

YOU TAKE YOUR PLACE.

I THOUGHT, THIS WOULD BE A

GOOD TIME TO ASK WHERE IS MY

PLACE.

AND I ASKED HIM, WHERE DO

YOU WANT ME TO SIT.

AND HE SAID, YOU MEAN THEY

DIDN'T TELL YOU?

PAT AND HENRY ARE IN ISRAEL,

AND YOU'RE THE HOST OF "THE

700 CLUB."

Pat: YOU DIDN'T KNOW?

I DIDN'T KNOW

(laughing).

Pat: I'LL NEVER FORGET,

YOU WERE HOSTING.

AND YOU HAD THE LADY WHO WAS

THE WIFE OF A PROMINENT

DALLAS REAL ESTATE GUY, AND

SHE HAD A ROCK ON HER FINGER

ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF

CARATS, AND YOU WERE

INTERVIEWING HER, AND SHE

SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE -- IT

WAS SUCH A SUFFERING TIME

AND WE WERE SHORT OF

SERVANTS.

AND YOU LOOKED AT HER AND

SAID, WELL, TELL ME ABOUT

IT.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.

TELL ME ABOUT HAVING A

SHORTAGE OF SERVANTS.

WE HAD A LOT OF FUN, DIDN'T

WE?

PAT, ONE OF THE THINGS

PEOPLE FORGET, AND THEY

THROW THE WORD "PIONEER"

AROUND, BUT WHAT PEOPLE

DON'T REALIZE, WHEN YOU

STARTED THIS THING, YOU

MAYBE GET A SUNDAY MORNING

PROGRAM ON SOME TELEVISION

STATEMENTS, THAT MIGHT BE

RUNNING ORAL ROBERTS OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THEN YOU STARTED IN THIS

LITTLE RUN-DOWN STATION IN

PORTSMITH, VIRGINIA, AND A

ONE-HOUR PROGRAM WHEN IT

WOULD AIR.

AND NOW PEOPLE DON'T THINK

ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE

FACT THAT THERE IS 24-HOUR

DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK

CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.

SO YOU CAN TUNE IT IN ON THE

INTERNET, YOU CAN FIND IT

ANYWHERE.

BUT BACK IN THE DAY, THE

WORD "PIONEER" REALLY HAD A

MEANING.

YOU WERE THE FIRST GUY THAT

HAD THE GUMPTION TO DO

SOMETHING NOBODY HAD GONE

BEFORE.

LIKE STAR TREK, WHERE NO MAN

HAS GONE BEFORE.

Pat: AT WARP SPEED, OUT

OF THE ENTERPRISE.

AND NOW, ALL OVER THE

WORLD, PAT, PEOPLE ARE

COMING TO KNOW THE REALITY

OF JESUS CHRIST.

Pat: THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, PAT, ONE OF THE

THINGS I THINK WE FORGET IS

THAT WESTERN CIVILIZATION

AND ALL OF THE BENEFITS AND

PRIVILEGES OF WESTERN

CIVILIZATION ARE FOUNDED ON

THE JUDEO PRINCIPLES FOUND

IN THE BIBLE.

AND WHAT "THE 700 CLUB" DOES

ON A REGULAR BASIS IS ART

ARTICULATES THESE PRINCIPLES

AND SAYS, THIS IS HOW WE

SHALL LIVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME

A COPY OF THIS.

Pat: "HOW SHALL WE NOW

LIVE?"

WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?

YOU'VE GOT THIS POLITICS

THINGS, "YELLOW DOG DONKIES?"

THERE IS A COPY.

WHAT IS IT?

IT IS ABOUT THE

PARTICIPATION IN THE

POLITICAL EXISTENCE OF

AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE

BECOME WHAT ARE REFERRED TO

AS THE YELLOW DOG

DEMOCRATS.

THE YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT

MEANS THAT YOU VOTE FOR A

DEMOCRAT, REGARDLESS OF THE

CANDIDATE, REGARDLESS OF THE

ISSUE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY

DIFFERENCE WHO HE IS OR WHAT

HE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND HE

IS A DEMOCRAT, YOU VOTE FOR

HIM.

THAT'S WHAT

AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN

DOING.

BUT THEY NEED TO BE VOTING

ACCORDING TO PRINCIPLE, NOT

PARTIES.

I WROTE THIS BOOK TO SAY,

LET'S EXAMINE THE HISTORICAL

FACTS AND VOTE ACCORDING TO

PRINCIPLE.

Pat: YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT THE NEW PLANTATION.

EXACTLY, MAN.

LET ME JUST TELL YOU -- YOU

REMEMBER BACK IN THOSE

DAYS -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE

HISTORY, BACK IN THE DAY,

THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF

SLAVES.

THERE WAS THE HOUSE SLAVE

AND THE FIELD SLAVE.

THE HOUSE SLAVE WAS THE GUY

WHO LIVED IN THE MASTER'S

HOUSE, HE ATE MASTER'S

LEFTOVERS, AND HE WORE SOME

OF MASTER'S CLOTHES

SOMETIMES.

THE FIELD SLAVE WORKED OUT

OF THE FIELDS AND HE GOT

TREATED LIKE A DOG.

HE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AN

OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE.

SO SOMETIMES HE WOULD COME

IN AND TALK TO THE HOUSE

SLAVE AND SAY, LET'S RUN

AWAY.

AND THE HOUSE SLAVE WOULD

SAY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN RUN

AWAY.

MASTER GOOD.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND

ANYONE TO TAKE CARE OF US

LIKE THIS?

TODAY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE

STILL PRACTICING PLANTATION

POLITICS.

WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE

ABOUT BREAKING AWAY FROM THE

LIBERAL PARTY AND BREAKING

AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATS AND

SAY, GO LOOK OUT FOR

YOURSELF, THEY PULL OUT THIS

THING, PAT.

LET ME JUST SHOW YOU.

THIS IS A LIST OF SOME OF

THE BENEFITS THAT ARE

AVAILABLE TO YOU --

Pat: GOOD GRIEF!

-- IF YOU ARE A SINGLE

FAMILY OR A PREGNANT

MOTHER.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE

BENEFITS.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LET'S

GET AWAY FROM HERE AND GO

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF,

THEY'LL SAY, ARE YOU CRAZY?

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND

SOMEBODY WHO WILL TAKE CARE

OF US LIKE THIS.

Pat: THAT WHOLE

LIST --

THAT WHOLE LIST.

AND SO NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO

DO IS GO DOWN AND FILE FOR

ONE OF THESE BENEFITS, AND

YOU JUST GOT A LIST OF

THEM.

EVERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS --

WHAT GETS REWARDED GETS

DONE.

YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DO

SOMETHING, REWARD THEM.

SO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, THE

REASON THAT 70 SOME ODD

PERCENT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN

BABIES ARE BORN OUT OF

WEDLOCK IS BECAUSE THEY

REWARD MOTHERS FOR HAVING

CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.

Pat: A BIG, BIG

REWARD.

$90 A MONTH -- WHATEVER THEY

PAY.

IT IS BIG MONEY.

IT COMES OUT, PAT, WHEN

YOU TAKE ALL OF THE BENEFITS

ADDED TOGETHER, YOU ACTUALLY

MAKE MORE ON WELFARE

BENEFITS THAN YOU CAN IF YOU

WERE WORKING A JOB

REGULARLY.

Pat: WHAT ARE YOU GOING

TO DO?

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT

THEY'RE DOING.

Pat: THEY'RE NOT

STUPID.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY,

HEY, SEND ME MY CHECK,

BABY.

Pat: YOU'RE ROWING

UPSTREAM ON THIS ONE.

YES.

BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT

ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND IS GOD GAVE US

SOMETHING CALLED HUMAN

SOVEREIGNTY.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE

OUR OWN DECISIONS, AND GOD

HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR

DECISIONS.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO,

MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON

PRINCIPLE.

GOD'S PRINCIPLES, NOT BASED

ON THE PROMISE OF SOME

EARTHLY REWARD.

Pat: THAT IS GETTING A

RECEPTIVE EAR IN A NUMBER OF

PLACES.

YOU MUST BE MUCH IN DEMAND

AS A SPEAKER.

I GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK

TO SOME FOLKS AND MEET SOME

OF THE FOLKS WHO'S NAMES YOU

WOULD RECOGNIZE IF I

MENTIONED THEM.

Pat: WHAT YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT, BEN, IS

LEADING TO THIS IMPASSE THAT

THEY'VE GOT IN WASHINGTON.

BECAUSE THE FOLKS WHO ARE

GIVING THE PLANTATION

BENEFITS DON'T WANT TO GIVE

THEM UP.

AND THE ONES WHO SAY WE'VE

GOT TO HAVE FISCAL SANITY OR

WE'RE GOING TO RUIN THE

WHOLE GAME FOR EVERYBODY,

THEY'RE FIGHTING UPSTREAM

LIKE YOU ARE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW

WHAT THE TRUTH IS, PAT, THEN

YOU'LL ACT ON WHAT YOU THINK

IS THE TRUTH.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE

FOUNDING FATHERS PUT IN A

FREE PRESS WAS SO PEOPLE GET

THE FACTS, NOT OPINION.

AND THAT'S THE JOB OF THE

PRESS, TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S

REALLY GOING ON.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HAS

FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE.

Pat: THEY WON'T DO IT.

BEN, IT IS GREAT TO SEE

YOU.

YOU'RE LOOKING WELL.

YOU'RE CHARGED UP AND HAVE A

NEW VISION OF WHERE THE LORD

IS GOING TO TAKE YOU.

LAST TIME I WAS ON "THE

700 CLUB," I SAID SOMETHING

RUDE AND STUPID, AND I DID

IT IN THE PUBLIC.

SO I HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU

AND TO THE AUDIENCE.

SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

Pat: BROTHER, IT'S

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

MY PRIVILEGE.

THANK YOU.

Pat: WE HAD SOME GREAT

TIMES.

YES, WE DID.

Pat: BEN'S BOOK IS

CALLED "BLACK YELLOW DOGS"

AVAILABLE WHERE BOOKS ARE

SOLD.

AND WE HAVE A WEB EXCLUSIVE

INTERVIEW WITH BEN, SO WATCH

FOR THAT.

AND YOU CAN LOG ON cbn.com

AND CLICK ON A THING CALLED

"IN THE GREEN ROOM."

WITH WHO GRANDSON, CAN

YOU BELIEVE THAT

(laughing)?

Pat: THE APPLE DOESN'T

FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.