Is there any truth to the world ending in 2012? Will the United States be part of the "End Times"? Does the Bible say where the Anti-Christ will come from? Have any of the trumpets of the "End Times" already happened? What are your thoughts ... ...
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Terry: PAT HAS BEEN
TEACHING ABOUT END-TIME
PROPHECY, AND SIGNS OF THE
TIMES.
MANY OF YOU SUBMITTED
QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT
TIME IN HISTORY.
THIS IS JANT WHO SAYS, "I
HEAR PEOPLE WHO KEEP TALKING
ABOUT THE WORLD COMING TO AN
END IN 2012.
IS THERE ANY LEGITIMACY TO
THIS BELIEF?"
Pat: I MENTIONED THAT
TO MY GRANDDAUGHTER, AND SHE
SAID THE BIBLE SAYS VERY
CLEARLY NOBODY WILL KNOW THE
TIME.
I SAID, OKAY, HONEY.
THE THING ABOUT THE 2012 IS
THAT THE MAYIANS HAD A VERY
ADVANCED SYSTEM OF
ASTRONOMY.
NOT ASTROLOGY, BUT
ASTRONOMY.
THEY COULD FORECAST THE
MOVEMENT OF THE STARS.
HOW THEY DID IT, I DON'T
KNOW, BUT THEY DID IT.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
IS THAT IN 2012 THE GALAXY,
WHICH WE'RE IN, THE MILKY
WAY GALAXY, IS GOING TO LINE
UP WITH THE STARS IN OUR
SOLAR SYSTEM, AND WE WILL
LINE UP WITH THE HEART OF
THE GALAXY ALL THE WAY
THROUGH.
ALL OF OUR STARS, EVERYTHING
LINED UP, AND THEY WILL
EXERT A TREMENDOUS PRESSURE
ON THIS EARTH.
AND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING IS
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE END
OF THEIR CALENDAR CYCLE.
IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE THE
END OF THE WORLD, BUT IT
WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF
SOME ELSE.
WE COULD HAVE SOME VERY
SERIOUS SOLAR PROBLEMS.
IF WE HAVE SOLAR FLARES OR
SOLAR RADIATION OR IF THERE
IS AN EXTRAORDINARY
GRAVITATIONAL PULL BECAUSE
OF THE ALIGNMENT OF THOSE
PLANETS, IT COULD BE VERY
SERIOUS.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT IT
DOES MEAN --
Terry: SOMETHING COULD
HAPPEN.
Pat: WE DON'T KNOW NOR
SURE THAT IS CORRECT.
WHAT ELSE?
Terry: THIS IS MARTY.
YOU SAID THE PROPHECY OF GOG
AND MAGOG ARE COMING THROUGH
BEFORE OUR EYES, BUT EZEKIEL
28 ALSO REFERS TO A TIME
WHEN, QUOTE,"ISRAEL IS
LIVING IN SAFETY."
BUT EVERYTHING I READ
SUGGESTS THAT ISRAEL IS NOT
LIVING IN SAFETY.
DOESN'T THAT MEAN THE
PROPHECY OF GOG AND MAGOG IS
NOT COMING THROUGH?"
Pat: THERE ARE PROBLEMS
WITH HAMAD AND EVERYTHING
ELSE.
BUT ISRAEL GOES ALONG WITH
THEIR NORMAL WORK.
BUT THE SAFETY IS OBVIOUSLY
BEING DISTURBED VERY
RADICALLY.
SO THE BEGINNING OF GOD AND
MAGOG, WE -- GOG AND MAGOG,
WE MAY SEE WHAT THE ISRAELIS
ARE TRYING TO DO.
Terry: IT DOESN'T SEEM
AS IF THE UNITED STATES IS
PART OF THE TIMES.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO US?
Pat: WHEN YOU SEE
EZEKIEL 38, THERE IS ONE
THING IN THERE.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE YOUNG
LIVES OF TARSHISH WILL STAND
BY AND SAY TO GOG, WHAT ARE
YOU DOING?
AND WE -- TARSHISH WAS CADIZ
IN SPAIN.
PEOPLE FROM TARSHISH WENT TO
IRELAND AND ENGLAND, AND
THEY, IN TURN, CAME OVER
HERE TO THE UNITED STATES.
YOU MIGHT SAY WE'RE THE
YOUNG LIONS OF TARSHISH.
THAT MAY BE STRETCHING A
POINT, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY
TIME I KNOW OF THE UNITED
STATES BEING MENTIONED IN
SCRIPTURE.
BUT SOME YOUNG LIONS ARE
SAYING TO GOG, WHAT ARE YOU
DOING?
THAT MAY BE US.
ALL RIGHT.
Terry: THIS IS ALMITA,
WHO WANTS TO KNOW, "DOES THE
BIBLE SAY WHERE THE
ANTI-CHRIST WILL COME
FROM?"
Pat: IT REALLY
DOESN'T.
I THINK THE ANTI-CHRIST IS
ISLAM.
I REALLY DO.
AND I THINK IT IS A
SYSTEM --
Terry: A SYSTEM MORE
THAN A PERSON?
Pat: WELL, IT IS BOTH.
IT IS CENTERED ON MUHAMMAD,
WHO DEFIED JESUS.
HE SAID JESUS WASN'T THE SON
OF GOD.
I MEAN, THAT'S ANTI-CHRIST.
I THINK THE SYSTEM IS THE
ANTI-CHRIST SYSTEM BECAUSE
THEY'RE TRYING TO DESTROY
THE JEWS.
AND THERE IS A HATRED OF
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.
SO COULD THAT BE IT?
I THINK.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO WHO SOME
WHO THINK IN REVELATION, AND
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
ROMAN EMPIRE, AND THAT THE
ANTI-CHRIST CAME OUT OF THE
ROMAN EMPIRE, AND THAT IS
GONE.
Terry: "MY PASTOR
RECENTLY SAID THAT HE
BELIEVES THAT OF THE
TRUMPETS OF THE BOOK OF
REVELATION HAVE ALREADY
OCCURRED.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?"
Pat: I DON'T KNOW.
REVELATION IS A VERY
DIFFICULT BOOK TO
UNDERSTAND.
TO DRAW TOO MANY CONCLUSIONS
FROM REVELATION IS A
MISTAKE.
I LIKE THE TEACHES YOU'LL
SEE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS --
I LIKE TO GO SPECIFICALLY TO
WORDS ARE CLEARLY
UNDERSTOOD.
AND THEY SAY THIS.
IF THEY SAY THIS, I BELIEVE
THAT.
BUT IN TERMS OF TRUMPETS AND
SEALS AND VIALS AND ALL OF
THIS -- I DID A GRAPH OF
REVELATION WHEN I WAS IN
SEMINARY.
I GOT AN "A" PLUS ON IT, AND
I STUDIED AND TAUGHT IT
THREE OR FOUR TIMES, AND I
STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
Terry: IT IS PRETTY
COMPLICATED.
DONNA SAYS, "I KNOW THERE
ISN'T MARRIAGE IN HEAVEN,
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE
MILLENNIUM?
DO WE GET TO START OVER AND
FIND A NEW ONE?"
Pat: I THINK YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT
(LAUGHING).
ACTUALLY, IF I READ THE
BIBLE RIGHT, THE SAINTS ARE
GOING TO BE WITH THE LORD,
IN A NEW BODY.
AT THAT POINT, THEY'LL BE
LIKE THE ANGELS.
SO FOR THE SAINTS, THERE
WON'T BE ANY MARRIAGE.
SO I'M SORRY, I CAN'T GIVE
YOU A NEW HUSBAND.
WHAT ELSE?
Terry: THIS IS DAN WHO
SAYS, "WHAT ARE YOUR
THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BIBLE
CODE.
SOAFDLY THERE ARE HIDDEN
MESSAGES IN THE BIBLE.
COULD THIS BE WHAT DANIEL
TALKED ABOUT WHEN HE TALKED
ABOUT THE BOOK WAS SEALED
UNTIL THE END OF TIME."
Pat: I THINK THAT
PROPHECY WAS CODED UNTIL THE
END OF TIMES.
I KEPT SAYING THAT THE MOST
IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE
IS TALKING ABOUT THE
MESSIAH.
WHAT ABOUT IT?
NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING.
THEY WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT THE
MESSIAH.
THEY TALKED ABOUT ADOLPH
HITLER AND THEY TALKED ABOUT
HARVEY OSWALD, BUT NOTHING
IN THERE ABOUT THE MESSIAH.
HOGWASH.
I WOULDN'T BUY IT ONE
MINUTE.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH MATTHEW
24: 24 "THIS GOSPEL OF THE
KINGDOM SHOULD BE TEACHED IN
THE WHOLE WORLD AND ALL OF
THE NATIONS, AND THEN THE
END WILL COME.
THAT'S THE SIGN OF THE
SECOND COMING OF JESUS
CHRIST.
THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM
SHOULD BE PREACHED IN ALL OF
THE WORLD FOR A WITNESS.