While Todd Burpo thought his son was dying, Colton was actually experiencing heaven. Hear their first-hand account of the experience.
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Gordon: TODAY, COLTON
BURPO IS 13 YEARS OLD AND
HE GOES TO SCHOOL AND PLAYS
SPORTS.
BUT UNLIKE HIS PEERS, HE HAS
A STORY THAT WAS HEARD
AROUND THE WORLD.
A STORY THAT BEGAN 10 YEARS
AGO, WHEN HE ALMOST DIED.
Reporter: LOOKING AT
COLTON NOW, YOU WOULD NEVER
GUESS THAT HE ALMOST DIED IN
2003.
HIS FATHER, TODD, TELLS
ABOUT COLTON'S NEAR-DEATH
EXPERIENCE IN THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" BEST-SELLING BOOK,
"HEAVEN IS FOR REAL."
HE STARTED THROWING UP
INTO THE TOILET.
AS FIRST, WE'RE LIKE, OKAY,
HE HAS THE STOMACH FLU, THE
DOCTOR SAID IT WAS GOING
AROUND.
Reporter: AS DAYS
PASSED, COLTON'S CONDITION
ONLY GOT WORSE.
THEN HIS DOCTOR DISCOVERED
HIS APPENDIX HAD BURST AND
INFECTION WAS SPREADING
THROUGHOUT HIS BODY.
TIME WAS RUNNING OUT.
SOMEONE CAME TO US AND
STARTED TALKING TO US, THAT
WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SURGERY ON
YOUR KID.
IT WAS TOUGH.
SEEING YOUR BOY BE LIFELESS,
WHEN HE WAS A VERY VIBRANT
CHILD.
AND IT WAS AT THAT MOMENT
THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EACH
OTHER, AND I REMEMBER MY
WIFE HOLDING COLTON IN THE
HALLWAY, AND HE WAS NOT EVEN
MOVING.
WE WENT TO THE SURGERY PREP
AREA, AND I REMEMBER THEM
HAULING HIM AWAY, AND HIM
YELLING, DADDY, DON'T LET
THEM TAKE ME.
DADDY, DON'T LET THEM TAKE
ME.
Gordon: FOR THE REST OF
THIS STORY, JOINING US IS
THE BURPO FAMILY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
Gordon: COLTON, WHEN
DID YOU KNOW YOU WERE REALLY
SORT OF IN TROUBLE.
WAS IT WHEN YOU WERE GETTING
WHEELED AWAY FROM YOUR DAD?
WELL, I JUST DIDN'T
LIKE -- I'M NOT SURE WHEN I
WAS ACTUALLY IN TROUBLE.
I JUST DIDN'T LIKE GETTING
POKED WITH NEEDLES.
Gordon: I DON'T,
EITHER.
NO.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
Gordon: YOU SAY ANGELS
AND JESUS CAME TO YOU AND
TOOK YOU TO HEAVEN.
DID THEY JUST SHOW UP IN THE
OPERATING ROOM?
UM, ACTUALLY, JESUS
SHOWED UP FIRST, AND HE
HELPED CALM ME DOWN BECAUSE
I WAS SCARED AT FIRST.
I WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS
HAPPENING.
AND THEN HE HAD THE ANGELS
SING TO ME, AND THAT CALMED
ME DOWN.
Gordon: WHAT DID THEY
SING?
WELL, THEY SANG "JESUS
LOVE ME," AND "JOSHUA FOUGHT
THE BATTLE OF JERICHO," AND
THOSE WERE MY FAVORITE SONGS
AT THE TIME.
Gordon: SO THEY SANG TO
YOU SONGS YOU HAD LEARNED IN
CHURCH?
YES.
Gordon: I FIND THAT
PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
YES.
Gordon: AND THAT SEEMED
TO BE A RECURRING THEME IN
THIS WHOLE JOURNEY, HOW MUCH
BOTH JESUS, GOD THE FATHER,
TRIED TO CALM YOU, AND
REASSURE YOU THAT EVERYTHING
WAS OKAY.
WHEN YOU WENT TO THE THRONE
ROOM, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
NEXT SPOT, WHAT DID GOD DO
FOR YOU?
WELL, GOD, HE WAS JUST
THERE.
HE WAS JUST A BEING THAT
RADIATED LOVE.
AND EVEN THOUGH HE IS SO
BIG, YOU'RE NOT SCARED OF
HIM BECAUSE HE LOVED YOU SO
MUCH.
WHAT HE DID IS HE HELPED
MAKE HEAVEN BE A HAPPY
PLACE.
[LAUGHTER]
Gordon: THAT'S A GOOD
WAY TO PUT IT.
WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST
ABOUT SEEING JESUS?
WELL, I PROBABLY REMEMBER
THAT I SPENT A LOT OF TIME
WITH HIM.
THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME I
WAS IN HEAVEN, I WAS WITH
JESUS.
Gordon: WHAT DO YOU
REMEMBER ABOUT HIS EYES?
WELL, HIS EYES, THEY WERE
UNLIKE ANY OTHER THAT I'VE
SEEN.
THEY WERE JUST SPARKLING.
Gordon: WHAT DO YOU
MEAN LIKE THAT, LIKE LIGHT
COMING OUT OF THEM?
WELL, IT'S HARD TO
DESCRIBE, BUT THERE'S NO
WORDS THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN
DESCRIBE JUST HOW BEAUTIFUL
THIS EYES
ARE.
Gordon: WHEN YOU LEFT
THE HOSPITAL, WHAT DID YOU
SEE AS YOU WERE LEAVING?
WHEN I LEFT THE HOSPITAL,
THE ANGELS, THEY -- ONE OF
THEM TOOK ME AND FLEW ME UP
TO HEAVEN, BUT I COULD SEE
DOWN.
AND I COULD SEE MY DAD AND
MY MOM, AND THEY WERE BOTH
IN SEPARATE ROOMS, HAVING
SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS.
Gordon: WITH WHO?
WELL, THEY WERE BOTH
PRAYING TO GOD, MAKING SURE
I WOULD COME OUT OF THE
OPERATION.
Gordon: ALL RIGHT.
SONYA, YOU'RE SORT OF THE
UNTOLD STORY, THE FIRST TIME
IN THE BOOK, AND NOW YOU'RE
COMING OUT WITH -- WHAT WERE
YOU PRAYING AT THAT MOMENT
THAT HE WAS IN THE OPERATING
ROOM?
THAT HE WOULD COME BACK.
WE KNEW HE WAS VERY, VERY
SICK.
AND I WAS ON MY CELL PHONE,
TRYING TO GET HIM ON EVERY
PRAYER CHAIN POSSIBLE,
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE
POWER OF PRAYER.
AND I KNEW WE WERE AT A
POINT WHERE WE NEEDED TO
SOUND THE ALARM AND GET AS
MANY PEOPLE PRAYING.
Gordon: WHAT WAS GOING
ON TO YOU WHEN THE DOCTOR
WAS TALKING ABOUT, HOW CAN
WE GET HIM TO ANOTHER
MEDICAL FACILITY?
AND THIS IS HAPPENING, AND
YOU'RE WONDERING, AM I
GETTING READY TO LOSE MY
CHILD?
IT WAS HARD TO SEE HIM AT
THAT POINT.
BECAUSE HE WAS A VERY
VIBRANT BOY, AND JUST TO SEE
HIM LAY THERE AND NOT
RESPOND TO TOYS, FRIENDS,
FOOD -- ANYTHING HE WOULD
NORMALLY RESPOND TO, AND
JUST TO SEE YOUR BOY LIKE
THAT WAS VERY DEVASTATING.
BUT YOU KNEW YOU HAD TO MAKE
SOME DECISIONS AND DO SOME
THINGS, AND SO YOU HAD TO
PUT YOUR EMOTIONS ASIDE AND
THINK, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS
HAPPEN, AND PRAY.
Gordon: AT WHAT POINT
MADE YOU SAY, I'VE GOT TO
PUT THINGS IN MOTION AND
I'VE GOT TO PUT HIM ON
PRAYER CHAINS.
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN
THESE OVERWHELMING EVENTS
HAPPEN, THERE IS A TENDENCY
TO JUST WANT TO SHUT DOWN.
BUT YOU GOT UP AND GOT INTO
ACTION.
WHY?
YEAH, YOU CAN SHUT DOWN,
BUT TODD AND I BOTH AGREE HE
WASN'T GONE YET, SO WE STILL
HAD TIME.
AND TIME WAS ON OUR SIDE.
AND I COME FROM A PASTOR'S
FAMILY, SO I WAS, OF COURSE,
CALLING MY DAD AND CALLING
MY BROTHER AND CALLING EVERY
PRAYER CHAIN WE COULD PUT
HIM ON AND JUST SOUND THE
ALARM AND GET AS MANY
PEOPLE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE
OR TWO GATHER TOGETHER -- I
WANTED MORE THAN THAT
BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE
DESPERATE.
Gordon: YOU WANTED
THOUSANDS.
NOT JUST ONE OR TWO.
YES.
Gordon: TODD, WHAT WAS
YOUR PRAYER?
WHAT WERE YOU PRAYING AT
THIS TIME?
I WAS DESPERATE.
FOR ME, HAVING THE ROLE OF
PASTOR, DAD, HUSBAND, I
DIDN'T WANT MY BOY TO KNOW
HOW AFRAID I WAS, AND I
WANTED TO BE STRONG FOR MY
WIFE.
BUT EVERYTHING INSIDE ME AT
THAT MOMENT, ESPECIALLY
WHEN HIM SCREAMING FOR ME TO
PROTECT HIM AND I COULDN'T
DO ANYTHING, I WAS LOOKING
FOR A PLACE TO HIDE.
WHEN I PRAYED IN THAT ROOM,
IT WASN'T PASTORAL.
I WAS MAD AND UPSET.
THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK
OF IS WHEN DAVID WAS
PLEADING FOR THE LIFE OF HIS
SON.
MY SON IS NOT GONE YET, AND
I NEED YOU NOW.
I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE
MOST HONEST PRAYERS IN MY
LIFE.
COLTON SAID LATER, THE
REASON JESUS SENT ME BACK IS
BECAUSE HE WAS ANSWERING
YOUR PRAYER.
AND PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME,
WHY DID GOD ANSWER YOUR
PRAYER?
AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IS
THE MOST HONEST PRAYER AND
MY LIFE.
THERE WAS NO ROLE PLAYING.
I WAS JUST A DAD THAT WAS
DESPERATE.
I THINK WHEN WE GET IN
CIRCUMSTANCES IN CRISIS, WE
ALL ARE GOING TO RUN.
BUT ARE WE GOING TO RUN TO
CHRIST OR AWAY.
Gordon: MY DAUGHTER
WENT THROUGH SURGERY, AND IT
WASN'T AS DRAMATIC AS WHAT
HAPPENED TO YOU, BUT IT
PROBABLY WAS THE HARDEST
THING, TO SEE HER ROLLED
AWAY ON A GURNEY AND WONDER,
IS SHE GOING TO COME BACK.
AND WHERE DO YOU GO WITH
THAT?
AND IT IS NOT TIME FOR A
POLISHED PRAYER.
YOU'RE NOT IN PASTOR MODE.
NO, NOT AT ALL.
Consuelo:
Gordon: YOU'RE IN, GOD,
I NEED YOU NOW AND I NEED
YOU TO SHOW UP NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE.
JESUS WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON
COLTON MET IN HEAVEN.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVE TO
YOU THIS STORY IS TRUE
BECAUSE HE LEARNED SOME
THINGS IN HEAVEN THAT HE
DIDN'T KNOW ON EARTH.
Gordon: LESS THAN TWO
HOURS AFTER COLTON WAS
WHEELED AWAY FOR SURGERY, HE
WAS AWAKE AND ALIVE.
AT THAT MOMENT, COLTON TOLD
HIS FATHER THAT HE ALMOST
DIED.
FOUR MONTHS LATER, COLTON
TOLD HIS FATHER THE REST OF
THE STORY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THE
REST OF THE STORY.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING
THAT GOT YOU GOING, TODD,
THAT SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
HAPPENED?
WELL, WHEN WE WERE
DRIVING BACK TO NORTH PLATT,
WE FINALLY HAD MAYBE HEALED
FROM THE EXPERIENCE ENOUGH
TO KIND OF JOKE ABOUT IT.
WE SAID, COLTON, DO YOU WANT
TO GO BACK TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND HE SAID, NO, SEND
CASSIE.
AND WE EXPECTED THAT.
BUT HE SAID, DAD, WHEN I WAS
THERE, THE ANGELS SANG TO
ME.
ANGELS ARE NOT SOMETHING WE
DISCUSSED VERY OFTEN.
WE HAVE BIBLE STORIES IN
CHURCH, READ BIBLE LESSONS,
WE TALK ABOUT JESUS ALL THE
TIME, BUT ANGELS, THAT
TOTALLY WAS A RARELY TALKED
ABOUT SUBJECT.
YOU TALK ABOUT ANGELS MAYBE
AT CHRISTMASTIME.
THE NATIVITY STORY.
BUT WHEN HE SAID THEY SANG
TO HIM AND HE WAS VERY
DEFINITE, THAT'S WHAT
CAPTURED OUR ATTENTION.
WE'RE LIKE, WHAT DID WE
MISS.
HE SAID, DAD, JESUS HAD THE
ANGELS SING TO ME.
AND I ASKED HIM, WHERE WAS
JESUS?
AND HE SAID, DAD, I WAS
SITTING ON HIS LAP.
AND I WAS SHOCKED.
AND I SAID, HOW DO YOU KNOW
THAT?
HE SAID, DAD, I COULD SEE
YOU.
HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT ME
BEING IN THAT ROOM ALL BY
MYSELF.
MY WIFE AT THAT MOMENT
DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS.
I HAD SLIPPED AWAY, AND WHEN
I CAME BACK TO HER AND
BROUGHT MY STUFF BACK, SHE
WAS MAD AT ME.
SHE WAS, LIKE, WHERE HAVE
YOU BEEN.
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND ME.
HER CELL PHONE BATTERY WAS
ABOUT AT.
CAN I USE FOR YOUR PHONE.
AND YOU DON'T BRAG ABOUT
THAT, AND THEN HERE IS MY
SON, I SAW YOU.
Gordon: AND IT WAS THIS
DESPERATE PRAYER.
WHEN DID YOU FIGURE OUT THIS
WASN'T JUST JESUS COMING
INTO THE HOSPITAL ROOM?
IT WAS ABOUT A WEEK
LATER.
WE WENT TO THE TRIP TO
SONYA'S BROTHER'S HOUSE.
AND WE COME BACK, AND I
WANTED TO GO THERE BECAUSE
WHEN HE SAID HE SAW JESUS,
IT WAS JUST BURNING IN MY
MIND, WHAT DID HE LOOK
LIKE.
SO I STARTED ASKING SOME
QUESTIONS.
AND, AGAIN, COLTON IS A
TYPICAL BOY, SOMETIMES HE
WANTS TO TALK, AND SOMETIMES
HE WANTS TO PLAY.
BUT HE JUST TOOK OVER.
I SAID, REMEMBER YOU SAW
JESUS, AND HE SAID YES.
AND HE SAID, DAD, DID YOU
KNOW JESUS' COUSINS
BAPTIZED?
, ANAND I GO YEAH.
AND THEN HE GOES, DO YOU
KNOW JESUS HAS A HORSE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS
CONVERSATION TOOK OFF.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I SAID,
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU SAID YOU
WERE IN THE HOSPITAL WITH
JESUS.
AND I SAID, DID YOU GO TO
HEAVEN?
AND HE WAS, LIKE, OH, YEAH,
I DID.
Gordon: I IMAGINE A
WHOLE BUNCH OF BIBLICAL
PASSAGES STARTED POPPING
INTO YOUR MIND WITH EACH ONE
OF HIS STATEMENTS.
HOW DID HE KNOW THAT?
EXACTLY. AND HE WOULD
CONFIRM STUFF.
BEING A PASTOR AND KNOWING
WHAT WAS IN THE BIBLE, AND
KNOWING WHAT MY PRE-SCHOOL
CURRICULUM TEACHES, AND HOW
HE WAS GOING SO MUCH FURTHER
BEYOND THAT.
YOU'RE LIKE, THIS DIDN'T
COME FROM HOME.
THIS DIDN'T COME FROM
CHURCH.
IT OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM
SOMETHING HE EXPERIENCED.
Gordon: COLTON,
SOMETHING ELSE CAME, WHERE
YOU MET A SISTER YOU HAD
NEVER MET BEFORE.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
SHE ACTUALLY MET ME AT
THE GATES OF HEAVEN.
SHE RAN OUT AND HUGGED ME.
AT FIRST, I WAS, LIKE, WHO
ARE YOU.
AND THEN SHE TOLD ME WHO SHE
WAS.
BUT BACK WHEN I WAS THREE, I
DIDN'T LIKE HUGS.
SO --
Gordon: DO YOU LIKE
HUGS TODAY?
UM, KIND OF GROWING INTO
IT MORE, BUT --
Gordon: NOT SO MUCH.
SHE COMES OUT AND HUGS YOU.
HOW DID YOU KNOW IT WAS YOUR
SISTER?
ACTUALLY, SHE IS THE ONE
THAT TOLD ME WHO SHE WAS.
I HAD NO IDEA WHO SHE WAS.
Gordon: WHO ELSE DID
YOU MEET?
I MET MY GREAT GRANDPA,
POP.
AND THEN I ALSO MET KING
DAVID, SAMPSON, THE APOSTLES
PETER AND JOHN AND MARY.
Gordon: WOW, YOU GOT
1-877- QUITE A TOUR.
HOW LONG WERE YOU THERE?
I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW
LONG, BUT WHEN I CAME BACK
TO EARTH, I TOLD MY DAD I
WAS UP THERE FOR THREE
MINUTES.
THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD
HAVE SAW ALL OF THAT IN
THREE MINUTES.
Gordon: SO TIME SORT OF
CHANGES.
THE TIME THAT IS PASSING
HERE IN A HOSPITAL ROOM IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE TIME THAT
IS PASSING IN HEAVEN?
YEAH.
Gordon: SONYA, LET ME
ASK YOU, WHO IS THIS
SISTER?
BETWEEN CASSIE AND
COLTON, WE MISCARRIED A
BABY.
WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A
DAUGHTER.
WE HADN'T TOLD THE KIDS
BECAUSE HOW DO YOU TELL KIDS
THIS YOUNG YOU HAD A
MISCARRIAGE.
AND SO WHEN HE TOLD US HE
HAD TWO SISTERS, IT GAVE US
SUCH A HEALING -- WE THOUGHT
WE HAD GOTTEN OVER IT, BUT
WE STILL HAD THAT HURT.
THIS IS PROVIDING SOME
HEALING AND SHE'S OKAY, AND
IT IS A SHE.
Gordon: I'M NOT SURE IT
IS ANYTHING YOU GET OVER.
MY MOTHER MISCARRIED BEFORE
ME.
AND THEY HAD GOTTEN TO THE
POINT WHERE THEY HAD NAMED
THE BABY.
AND CURIOUSLY, IF THERE
HADN'T BEEN A MISCARRIAGE, I
WOULDN'T BE HERE.
SO I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED
THAT I'M GOING TO MEET JAMES
GORDON ONE DAY.
AT THE GATE.
Gordon: AT THE GATE.
HE IS GOING TO COME OUT AND
GIVE ME A HUG, WHICH IS
REALLY NICE.
WHAT DID POP LOOK LIKE?
WELL, POP, WHEN I SAW
HIM, HE WAS A YOUNG MAN.
IN HIS LATE 20s, EARLY
30s.
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY LOOKS
LIKE IN HEAVEN.
Gordon: I'M LIKING IT.
[LAUGHTER]
SO YOU LOOK LIKE YOUR
YOUNG SELF.
Gordon: BUT YOU MET,
CHILDREN, TOO?
YES.
Gordon: ARE THEY GOING
TO GROW OLDER?
YES.
IF YOU WERE MISCARRIED OR
DIED AS A KID, YOU WILL
STILL GROW TO YOUR PRIME,
BUT ONCE YOU HIT YOUR LATE
20s, EARLY 30s, YOU STOP
AND YOU STAY AT THAT AGE.
Gordon: TODD, HOW DID
YOU KNOW HE ACTUALLY MET
POP?
I WOULD TAKE POP -- WHEN
I WAS A LITTLE KID, WE WERE
SO CLOSE.
HE STARTED TELLING ME ABOUT
THINGS I DID WITH POP WHEN I
WAS A KID, AND HOW NICE POP
WAS.
WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THINGS
I DID WITH POP, I SAID, HOW
DO YOU KNOW?
AND HE SAID POP TOLD ME.
HE COULDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM AS
THE POP I KNEW AT 61.
IT FINALLY DAWNED ON ME WITH
THE DESCRIPTIONS HE GAVE US
OF HIS SISTER, HOW SHE
LOOKED LIKE CASSIE, BUT NOT
QUITE AS BIG.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT
HER TO LOOK LIKE THIS SIDE
OF HEAVEN, BUT WITH WINGS.
I SAID, DO YOU HAPPEN TO
HAVE A PICTURE OF POP A A
YOUNG MAN -- I ASKED MY MOM,
AND SHE HAD GIVEN ME ONE.
THIS PICTURE WAS ONE THAT
WAS PUT UP IN A CLOSET
BEFORE COLTON WAS BORN.
I SAID, COLTON TAKE A LOOK
AT THIS.
IT IS A FAMILY PICTURE.
WITHOUT EVEN HESITATING,
COLTON GOES, HEY, HOW DID
YOU GET A PICTURE OF POP.
THERE IS NO DRUGS, NO
TEACHER, NOTHING THAT COULD
HAVE SPURRED THAT MEMORY.
THE ONLY THING THAT COULD
HAVE ANSWERED IT IS THAT HE
SAW HIM.
Gordon: IT IS AN
INCREDIBLE STORY.
I COULD TALK A LONG TIME.
BUT WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
IF YOU WANT MORE, THERE ARE
WONDERFUL BOOKS AVAILABLE
WHERE YOU CAN GET THE
COMPLETE STORY.
TODD BURBEAU, "HEAVEN IS FOR
REAL," AND THERE IS A
FOLLOWUP, "HEAVEN CHANGES
EVERYTHING," AND IT IS
SONYA'S STORY.
AND THEY SHARE THEIR STORY
WITH US ON OUR WEBSITE.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO
CBN.COM.
AND WHILE THERE, WE HAVE A
SPECIAL BEHIND-THE-SCENES
INTERVIEW WITH THEM.
YOU CAN ALWAYS WATCHED ON
THEM BY CLICKING ON THE LINK
CALLED "IN THE GREEN ROOM."
COLTON, SONYA, TODD, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR STORY.
GOD BLESS YOU.